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ProBlue33
11-26-2009, 10:19 PM
The George Bush You Forgot (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8846134798062428730&ei=f1APS87jGYeYqAOStpjODQ&q=did+ron+paul+supports+george+bush+in+2000&hl=en&client=firefox-a#)

I often wondered why Ron Paul often refereed to Bush's election platform for 2000 and how we should have stuck with that, didn't know why until I saw this clip.

He almost sounds like Ron Paul in these clips, scary

This reminds me of Obama so much, they lie before they get into office will we ever learn?

We keep getting duped by these guys.

Of coarse we all know that Ron Paul did not support Bush after 9/11

Kotin
11-26-2009, 10:24 PM
dear lord..

South Park Fan
11-26-2009, 10:26 PM
Ron Paul didn't support Bush in 2000, he just pointed out that he incorporated many noninterventionist elements into his platform.

t0rnado
11-26-2009, 10:31 PM
I think Ron Paul supported Harry Browne

ProBlue33
11-26-2009, 10:34 PM
Here is a question then, who did Ron Paul vote for in 2000?
Anybody know, it's a honest question?
He was a member of the GOP and from Texas too.

I am not trying to criticize Ron Paul in any way so don't take this the wrong way, I bet most of the posters in this forum voted for Bush in 2000, who could know what an absolute nightmare he would turn out to be.
As Ron Paul said neo-con's took over Bush's administration, and Bush didn't care he just rolled with it.

South Park Fan
11-26-2009, 10:36 PM
Here is a question then, who did Ron Paul vote for in 2000?
Anybody know, it's a honest question?
He was a member of the GOP and from Texas too.

I am not trying to criticize Ron Paul in any way so don't take this the wrong way, I bet most of the posters in this forum voted for Bush in 2000, who could know what an absolute nightmare he would turn out to be.
As Ron Paul said neo-con's took over Bush's administration, and Bush didn't care he just rolled with it.

I know that he didn't vote for Bush in 00 or 04. It was either Buchanan, Browne, or Phillips though.

RevolutionSD
11-27-2009, 12:17 AM
I voted for Harry Browne in 2000, knowing he had 0 chance of even having an effect on the election.
I'm pretty sure RP did not support GWB.

Voting isn't going to free us in any event.

YouTube - True News 6: The Truth About Voting Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oGMEEE11Lc)

Imperial
11-27-2009, 12:35 AM
My dad voted Buchanan that election.

It is interesting to not Gary Johnson didn't endorse George W Bush in 2000, even though they were acquaintances.

Chase
11-27-2009, 12:51 AM
I'm also struck by how smoothly he spoke. Perhaps its just lying that he is no good at.

21st Century Republican
11-27-2009, 05:39 AM
I remember that W. I voted for him too.

He was a smooth operator back then. He was calm, collected and to the point. He seemed like a no BS type of guy.

I still believe he believed that, but 9/11 changed that. Since Pearl Harbor, the US had never been hit the way it was on 9/11. It changed him. I bet he thought that going after them was the answer. Never let them hit us again. He thought it was the best course of action.

The issue with Iraq, I don't ever think anyone will know the full truth in regards to that war.
I'm still blown away at the lack of preparedness and insignificant troop levels in that war. Furthermore, above all else, underestimating the religious fanatacism that was involved as well.

jmdrake
11-27-2009, 06:15 AM
Ron Paul didn't support Bush in 2000, he just pointed out that he incorporated many noninterventionist elements into his platform.

Considering Bush Sr. work in initiating the modern "new world order" push, his role in Iran contra, his intervention in Somalia, his setting up Saddam Hussein to be invaded (yes, April Glasby DID give Saddam the greenlight to invade Kuwait) and his negotiation of NAFTA there were reasons not to be hopeful about Bush jr. So based on that Ron Paul could have voted for someone else. Regardless the point is that Bush didn't live up to the reasonable promises he made on foreign policy during the campaign. Obama also made some reasonable promises about winding down the war in Iraq, talking to our "enemies" in Iran, ending secret detention facilities, ending violations of the constitution done in the name of security etc and he's done none of that. We need to hold people to their policies.

coyote_sprit
11-27-2009, 06:40 AM
Ron Paul said he favored the campaign Bush ran on in 2000 in regards to Foreign Policy, he never said he endorsed or voted for him.

DamianTV
11-27-2009, 06:45 AM
Its the perfect example of what makes politicans politicans. Hypocracy at its finest.

catdd
11-27-2009, 08:26 AM
He often uses the example of 2000 Bush to show how the GOP makes false claims to get elected. They either believe what they are saying at the time and become corrupted after taking office or they were just bald-faced liars to begin with.

Swmorgan77
11-27-2009, 08:42 AM
I don't think RP was, nor was I, under any allusions that bush was a free-market, small government conservative at heart even before that election.

GW Bush was campaigning on a platform of a lot of domestic big-government Socialism, from what I remember. I can't speak for RP, but I suspect that the fact that Bush was advocating a very humble, non-interventionist foreign policy (as a backlash to the interventions of Clintion) is probably what made the difference for him.

Its ironic that the most interventionist President we've ever had (in terms of establishing long-term precedent) is someone who campaigned on the opposite and just conveniently was presented with the circumstances that enabled it (9/11) after getting into office.

Working Poor
11-27-2009, 08:59 AM
I remember pleading with my friends and family to please not vote for Bush. I knew he would find a way to start a war. I did not believe anything he said. I think he did not really win the election.

specsaregood
11-27-2009, 09:10 AM
I think he did not really win the election.

Yeah, he really did win. No doubt there were dirty tricks (caging lists and police road blocks) but at the end of it all some newspapers in FL did manual recounts and Bushie came out on top....and the #1 reason was the cuban vote; the elian gonzales thing was still fresh in the cuban fl voters' minds and they took out their displeasure on gore.

I voted for Bush because of his rhetoric and Gore was already a hyper-douche. Too bad Bush didn't live up to his platform.

Fozz
11-27-2009, 09:23 AM
I don't think RP was, nor was I, under any allusions that bush was a free-market, small government conservative at heart even before that election.

GW Bush was campaigning on a platform of a lot of domestic big-government Socialism, from what I remember. I can't speak for RP, but I suspect that the fact that Bush was advocating a very humble, non-interventionist foreign policy (as a backlash to the interventions of Clintion) is probably what made the difference for him.

Its ironic that the most interventionist President we've ever had (in terms of establishing long-term precedent) is someone who campaigned on the opposite and just conveniently was presented with the circumstances that enabled it (9/11) after getting into office.

Our most interventionist president was Woodrow Wilson, but ironically, even he won the 1916 election on the platform of keeping the US out of the Great War.

coyote_sprit
11-27-2009, 09:25 AM
Our most interventionist president was Woodrow Wilson, but ironically, even he won the 1916 election on the platform of keeping the US out of the Great War.

Wasn't his campaign slogan "He kept us out of war"?

Fozz
11-27-2009, 09:32 AM
Wasn't his campaign slogan "He kept us out of war"?

Yes. And shortly after he won, it was evident that he was a despicable liar.

klamath
11-27-2009, 10:33 AM
I remember pleading with my friends and family to please not vote for Bush. I knew he would find a way to start a war. I did not believe anything he said. I think he did not really win the election.
And Gore wouldn't have??? Gore was part of the administration that started three wars and actively continued Bush senor's war. He had a proven record of being for war. Clinton/gore was part of the "Iraqi liberation act' which made it the official U.S. policy to oust Sadamn. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Gore would have invaded Iraq just as fast as Bush did if not sooner as.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gore+wmd&search_type=&aq=f