Incredible! Hillary C. is now stealing Rp stuff

[Dave Wood]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1018590522272263855&q=ron+paul&total=333&start=0&num=10&so=1&type=search&plindex=1


"Reclaim the Constitution" who does she think shes kidding?:mad:

[Vonhayek7]

Don't think that's a new line with politicians dude.

Don't get trapped into the "stealing lines" game like the democrats are with each other.

[Sematary]

You should be happy. Other candidates are beginning to get the message and change their tune.

[steph3n]

Wow nice event! it seemed they had almost as much attention as Hillary by the end of the speech :D

such a liar on Hillary's part.

[steph3n]

Yep but it is just like a parrot, they will keep repeating it, but it means nothing to them.


You should be happy. Other candidates are beginning to get the message and change their tune.

[Chester Copperpot]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1018590522272263855&q=ron+paul&total=333&start=0&num=10&so=1&type=search&plindex=1


"Reclaim the Constitution" who does she think shes kidding?:mad:

Yeah shes been saying that Constitution crap for awhile.. Probably ever since Rons first rally.. probably taking notes.. neocon CFR bitch

[uncloned21]

neocon CFR bitch


HAHA!

[BillyDkid]

Man, are you kidding me????

[Chester Copperpot]

But notice when she says the words, they are without meaning.. with no conviction.. no heart.. no truth behind them... She just meanders through her speech blase all the time wondering when can she get outta there and eat a mcdonalds cheeseburger or whatever

[Johnnybags]

in the constitution? Article ?

[fj45lvr]

You should be happy. Other candidates are beginning to get the message and change their tune.

wrong!!!!

the tune is the same they only are adding a couple of lines of lyrics but there is no connection with them because they are merely minions of the label they signed with.

INDEPENDENT musicians know true freedom....may they know prosperity too though they face the "machine"!!!

[dude58677]

I noticed how people were leaving the speech and no one was cheering like they do at Ron Paul rally's.

[Chester Copperpot]

in the constitution? Article ?

good point

[10thAmendmentMan]

The sad thing is that most people barely even have a grasp of what's IN the Constitution and what rights cannot be taken away. That video of the people not having any idea what the 1st Amendment was scares me.

[dude58677]

The sad thing is that most people barely even have a grasp of what's IN the Constitution and what rights cannot be taken away. That video of the people not having any idea what the 1st Amendment was scares me.

Relax, these people in the video not knowing the first amendment will not be smart enough to vote either.

[Zydeco]

Rudy said something in one of the debates about "my reading of the Constitution."

Pretty funny!

[RP08]

I was talking to a buddy yesterday. I brought up Ron Paul, he said that on all his "gun forums" they're talking about Ron Paul and Fred Thompson equally. I reminded him that Freddy will go which ever way the lobby breeze blows him. Buddy said he'd vote for Hillary over some of the "other clowns", then went on to say that the way he looks at it, "nothing could be as bad as what we have in the White House now..." I said "You think so huh? GWB is already advising Hillary on dialogue to spin the Iraq war, and that's just what we know about. They're in the same boat. The big one, that we're not in. Things on Capitol Hill are bad now because they've been TURNING that way, not because they just suddenly became that way because of Bush/Cheney. You don't think it can get worse? See what happens from a Hillary Presidency. ""More of the same"" means ""more of turning in the wrong direction.""" I also told him that Hillary as President scares me as much as Giuliani and some others aren't far behind those. They're all neocons with the same agenda, same friends, same rhetoric.

Aaaanyway. Liked the video. Thanks for sharing. Has been posted on the www.ClintonForums.com here: http://clintonforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17

[runderwo]

To Democrat partisans, the Constitution is something either to be used as a stepping stone to construct rights that don't exist in order to justify trampling states' rights, or something to be ignored as "anachronistic" or regarded as a nice "sentiment" in their own legislation. It's only the supreme law of the land when they disagree with a move that comes from outside the Party.

[MsDoodahs]

I'm optimistic.:)

The fact that many of the other candidates are incorporating rah rahs for the Constitution is direct evidence that the RP movement is strong.

Probably a lot stronger than we know.

I'm guessing they see something on their internal polling data, and what they're seeing is causing them to do this "stealing" stuff.

[fj45lvr]

I also told him that Hillary as President scares me as much as Giuliani and some others aren't far behind those. They're all neocons with the same agenda, same friends, same rhetoric.



yeah well just think with Hillary you'll have gun control, socialism and the likes of Al Gore as the EPA head....trying to herd the populations into the cities to implement "the wildlands project"....there's some scary shite right there.

[fj45lvr]

I'm optimistic.:)

The fact that many of the other candidates are incorporating rah rahs for the Constitution is direct evidence that the RP movement is strong.

Probably a lot stronger than we know.

I'm guessing they see something on their internal polling data, and what they're seeing is causing them to do this "stealing" stuff.


they'll all think it's fine as long as it is "interpreted correctly"....

don't be fooled by lying lips. What they stand for is about burning what they consider an "outdated" and "archaic" thing to be replaced by the "new and improved 'constitution' "

[MsDoodahs]

Were any of them mentioning the Constitution BEFORE RP made a splash?

I don't think they were.

:)

[Dave Wood]

Were any of them mentioning the Constitution BEFORE RP made a splash?

I don't think they were.

:)

Doodahs, I didnt even hear a single Republican utter the word let alone a Democrat, did you?

I think some of our people are missing the point. This is not good. If the majority of voters have never heard of RP let alone hear him speak and they begin to hear these flip-floppers saying the same things that the DOC is famous for supporting all along, I would think people will not get the same impact from him that they would have if it came from him first. IMHO

[MsDoodahs]

I guess that's a possibility, Dave, but I can't help but feel the doc is having one HELL of an impact and that the movement has them worried.

Or at least I like to THINK we have them worried.

It makes me happy to think we do.

And I make no apoligies for finding a bit of joy in that thought.

:D

[Dave Wood]

I guess that's a possibility, Dave, but I can't help but feel the doc is having one HELL of an impact and that the movement has them worried.

Or at least I like to THINK we have them worried.

It makes me happy to think we do.

And I make no apoligies for finding a bit of joy in that thought.

:D


I like to think that way too.:D :D

He IS changing the course of this race, I believe that is pretty clear by now. I dont know that we are scaring the others though, Fred doesnt even look or sound like he wants the job! Noone on the Rep side seems to be ambitious about it like the Hillaries and Obamas, it is clear that they want it:eek:

I think RP could stand out a bit more by simply saying the reasons why he wants the job, just like he did in Iowa, ask for the job from the voters and add a little founding fathers guilt in there for good measure.:D

[yongrel]

We need video of Hillary crossing her fingers before she said that.

[LibertyEagle]

You should be happy. Other candidates are beginning to get the message and change their tune.

Why should we be happy? They're lying. They have no intention whatsoever to pay any attention to the Constitution.

[Taco John]

This is nothing short of plagerism... We should be sending this in to the nightly news shows and calling it our as plagerism.

[MsDoodahs]

lol, the nightly news shows don't give a shit about stuff like this.

Remember: PRAVDA is the MOUTHPIECE for the STATE.

There's that scene in V for Vendetta....just before they put on a story they all know is a state lie:

"Do you think they'll believe this?"

"Why wouldn't they? We are the BTN. We don't fabricate the news. That's THE GOVERNMENT'S JOB."

[expatriot]

I'm optimistic.:)

The fact that many of the other candidates are incorporating rah rahs for the Constitution is direct evidence that the RP movement is strong.

Probably a lot stronger than we know.

I'm guessing they see something on their internal polling data, and what they're seeing is causing them to do this "stealing" stuff.

That is right on the money.
This reading of unpublished polling data is also what is driving
the reckless abandon to 'close the gates' to primary voters.
Pollsters are beginning to have serious problems keeping
the numbers lined up correctly in the face of seriously skewered responses.
Although there is still a large majority of the responding public
which remains underexposed to the Ron Paul message,
the growth in these numbers is exposing the weaknesses of the systems
they have relied upon in the past.
The skew from the cellphone set is a factor they wish would go away,
or at least lay dormant long enough to get some serious alternatives
in place, and if they become proven to be unreliable servants of the monied
crowd then they will be doomed to reconstructing their business from scratch.
The cellphone issue is, however, only a minor part of the skew.
They are no longer able to keep up with the shifting sands of a public
which has much more information flowing outside of the controlled media now.
Internal corporate, business, and educational networks are increasingly used for
disseminating information between employees, and this is a dark problem
no one anticipated. It is not just the internet, but the sneaker-net which
is spreading a lot more information about politics these days.

They are also quickly discovering the sheer volume of Democrat voters defecting
to the clarity of Ron Paul's positions against Interventionism.
This alone threatens interests in parties on both sides of the
Democrat-Republican coin.
Both of these issues are driving their rush to damage control.
There has rarely been such a bipartisan cooperation as we see this moment.

What comes next will probably cast a much darker shadow on events to come,
they are losing ground at an accelerating pace and they will need to
take some form of bold action to prevent a runaway electorate.
Look for some form of thinly veiled aggression to arise,
probably directed against the rEVOLutionaries in the form of police suppression.

The Blowback will be enormous.

[Cindy]

She has been. I saw a news clip of her speaking at a rally months ago, saying, Fa la la la la la " We must cherish our Constitution" fal ala la la la

She has voted against it's Supreme Law so many times we have lost count.

I hope to the high heavens Paul gets the nomination and gets to go one on with with her in the debates. He will DESTROY that hypocrites empty rhetoric.

[MsDoodahs]

That is right on the money.
This reading of unpublished polling data is also what is driving
the reckless abandon to 'close the gates' to primary voters.

EXACTAMUNDO!




Pollsters are beginning to have serious problems keeping
the numbers lined up correctly in the face of seriously skewered responses.
Although there is still a large majority of the responding public
which remains underexposed to the Ron Paul message,
the growth in these numbers is exposing the weaknesses of the systems
they have relied upon in the past.
The skew from the cellphone set is a factor they wish would go away,
or at least lay dormant long enough to get some serious alternatives
in place, and if they become proven to be unreliable servants of the monied
crowd then they will be doomed to reconstructing their business from scratch.
The cellphone issue is, however, only a minor part of the skew.
They are no longer able to keep up with the shifting sands of a public
which has much more information flowing outside of the controlled media now.
Internal corporate, business, and educational networks are increasingly used for
disseminating information between employees, and this is a dark problem
no one anticipated. It is not just the internet, but the sneaker-net which
is spreading a lot more information about politics these days.


This is exactly why they WILL come after the new technologies of all kinds in an effort to regain complete control. The people are SICK of PRAVDA. And the people have alternatives. :)




They are also quickly discovering the sheer volume of Democrat voters defecting
to the clarity of Ron Paul's positions against Interventionism.
This alone threatens interests in parties on both sides of the
Democrat-Republican coin.
Both of these issues are driving their rush to damage control.
There has rarely been such a bipartisan cooperation as we see this moment.

I saw a blurb somewhere in reading around online, some GOP person had indicated that they had seen an increase in volume of people coming INTO the party. That was huge IMO because I believe the GOP influx is due to RON PAUL VOTERS. I have not seen another comment about the influx, but I truly believe they're seeing one and when it dawned on them that this represents the former non voters (like me) and dems switching specifically because they intend to vote for Ron, they REALLY started to freak out. lol.



What comes next will probably cast a much darker shadow on events to come,
they are losing ground at an accelerating pace and they will need to
take some form of bold action to prevent a runaway electorate.
Look for some form of thinly veiled aggression to arise,
probably directed against the rEVOLutionaries in the form of police suppression.

The Blowback will be enormous.

Sad to say it, but I agree with you on this. The thugs in power won't let go without one HELL of a fight. I just hope we're all up to it.

[Cindy]

If they don't give him the nomination, I hope all RP supporters that only registered Republican for him, re-register to something else ASAP.

It will be great to know the sweat produced when they see a large chunk of their registered voting block drop away After the nomination if it isn't Paul.

I'll go reregister back to Green the next day if they don't nominate him.

[MsDoodahs]

We're fighting for the nomination against major forces; both dem and GOP are against Ron because the dems and GOP are on the same side of the coin.

WE are the on the other side of the coin.

They (dem and GOP politicians/powerful) have snookered americans for FAR FAR TOO LONG.

This is only the beginning of a much longer battle IMO.

[SwordOfShannarah]

You should be happy. Other candidates are beginning to get the message and change their tune.

Happy? It's just a lie Sematary. It's nothing to be happy about. It's George Bush's promise of no nation building then do the exact opposite. It's not good.