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MsDoodahs
10-03-2007, 06:39 AM
I make a point to NEVER watch that guy - but last night I was channel flipping and what I heard him saying made me stop and listen.

Beck was saying that the Al Queda strategy is to bankrupt the US, that this is the strategy they used against the USSR, and that we're falling for it. He EVEN said that Americans better open their eyes. Which made mine go :eek: because...

Isn't this the same guy that, right after the Ron/Rudy dust up, spent a solid half hour bashing Dr. Paul as hard as he could?

Anyone know if Beck has had the Ron Paul induced epiphany moment?

Johnnybags
10-03-2007, 06:42 AM
I make a point to NEVER watch that guy - but last night I was channel flipping and what I heard him saying made me stop and listen.

Beck was saying that the Al Queda strategy is to bankrupt the US, that this is the strategy they used against the USSR, and that we're falling for it. He EVEN said that Americans better open their eyes. Which made mine go :eek: because...

Isn't this the same guy that, right after the Ron/Rudy dust up, spent a solid half hour bashing Dr. Paul as hard as he could?

Anyone know if Beck has had the Ron Paul induced epiphany moment?

only the boogeyman side. I think he is drinking again and they already bankrupted us, the FED just will not let you know it yet, 300 billion pumped in recently+. So instead of stocks dropping like a stone, our savings are being extracted thru inflation.

kylejack
10-03-2007, 06:43 AM
I make a point to NEVER watch that guy - but last night I was channel flipping and what I heard him saying made me stop and listen.

Beck was saying that the Al Queda strategy is to bankrupt the US, that this is the strategy they used against the USSR, and that we're falling for it. He EVEN said that Americans better open their eyes. Which made mine go :eek: because...

Isn't this the same guy that, right after the Ron/Rudy dust up, spent a solid half hour bashing Dr. Paul as hard as he could?

Anyone know if Beck has had the Ron Paul induced epiphany moment?

He's had numerous good and bad things to say about Ron Paul. He loves Ron Paul's conservatism, you can tell, but he has hangups on the HURR TERRORISM issue.

Thor
10-03-2007, 06:46 AM
I make a point to NEVER watch that guy - but last night I was channel flipping and what I heard him saying made me stop and listen.

Beck was saying that the Al Queda strategy is to bankrupt the US, that this is the strategy they used against the USSR, and that we're falling for it. He EVEN said that Americans better open their eyes. Which made mine go :eek: because...

Isn't this the same guy that, right after the Ron/Rudy dust up, spent a solid half hour bashing Dr. Paul as hard as he could?

Anyone know if Beck has had the Ron Paul induced epiphany moment?

We are doing a fine job of bankrupting ourselves without their help. Just another log on the fire.

mrchubbs
10-03-2007, 06:50 AM
I listen to Beck from time to time...

He seems to say many of the things Ron Paul says except for the Iraq war issue.

They pretty much fall in lock step on the economy from the things that I've heard.



Enjoy.

katao
10-03-2007, 06:53 AM
He wants what is impossible - to be the policeman of the world hunting radical Islamic terrorists AND to not go bankrupt doing it.

Beck could be converted, if he could just get over his irrational FEAR.

kylejack
10-03-2007, 06:54 AM
I listen to Beck from time to time...

He seems to say many of the things Ron Paul says except for the Iraq war issue.

They pretty much fall in lock step on the economy from the things that I've heard.

Enjoy.
I agree. Glen is a true conservative on fiscal issues, unlike Sean Hannity. You can tell that he would be hyper for Ron Paul if not for the war/terrorists issue. I'm not sure what its going to take to get conservatives to release their teeth from that duck.

KewlRonduderules
10-03-2007, 06:58 AM
I make a point to NEVER watch that guy - but last night I was channel flipping and what I heard him saying made me stop and listen.

Beck was saying that the Al Queda strategy is to bankrupt the US, that this is the strategy they used against the USSR, and that we're falling for it. He EVEN said that Americans better open their eyes. Which made mine go :eek: because...

Isn't this the same guy that, right after the Ron/Rudy dust up, spent a solid half hour bashing Dr. Paul as hard as he could?

Anyone know if Beck has had the Ron Paul induced epiphany moment?

Glen Beck is a complete moron and does not know his history! It was not Al Qaeda that bankrupted the USSR. Instead what happened was that Reagan negotiated with the Saudis to lower the price of oil to something like $23-25 a barrel. So in this instance, the USSR could not compete for prices in the international market. Hence, bankrupting the USSR due to lack of revenue coming in and in turn forcing them to leave the Afghan basin.

MsDoodahs
10-03-2007, 07:02 AM
Well, then he's RIPE for conversion to a Paul supporter right now.

He had a clip from some Islamic leader in ... I think 2002? Maybe 2005? Anyway...he said the US caught the guy and threw him in prison, but in the clip the guy was saying outright that this is their strategy: bankrupt the US to kill the American empire.

Beck emphasized repeatedly that this is exactly what is happening.

For that reason, it would seem to me that Beck is right on the verge of "getting it."

Or maybe not...

ButchHowdy
10-03-2007, 07:03 AM
Glen Beck is a complete moron and does not know his history! It was not Al Qaeda that bankrupted the USSR. Instead what happened was that Reagan negotiated with the Saudis to lower the price of oil to something like $23-25 a barrel. So in this instance, the USSR could not compete for prices in the international market. Hence, bankrupting the USSR due to lack of revenue coming in and in turn forcing them to leave the Afghan basin.

You mean it wasn't Leo Wanta??

kylejack
10-03-2007, 07:07 AM
Glen Beck is a complete moron and does not know his history! It was not Al Qaeda that bankrupted the USSR. Instead what happened was that Reagan negotiated with the Saudis to lower the price of oil to something like $23-25 a barrel. So in this instance, the USSR could not compete for prices in the international market. Hence, bankrupting the USSR due to lack of revenue coming in and in turn forcing them to leave the Afghan basin.
Well, there was also the resistance mujahadeen fighters that caused big problems for the Russians in the mountains of Afghanistan. Russia's many tank divisions were not well prepared for a conflict in a mountainous region. Our special forces with helicopters have proven to be a been a much smarter way to fight there.

The mujahadeen, as I'm sure you know, were the roots of today's AQ.

Electrostatic
10-03-2007, 07:16 AM
We should send him the bill RP introduced for letters of marque and reprisal against al qaida and explin to him EXACTLY what it means...

RJB
10-03-2007, 07:17 AM
He's a show man. That's all. He'll say the "I'm for small government thing to string us along, but everything he truly talks about says the opposite. Don't trust a word out of his mouth.

The neocon talk radio guy's job is to keep the conservative sheep in the republican fold no matter how bad the republican leaders are.

KewlRonduderules
10-03-2007, 07:35 AM
Well, there was also the resistance mujahadeen fighters that caused big problems for the Russians in the mountains of Afghanistan. Russia's many tank divisions were not well prepared for a conflict in a mountainous region. Our special forces with helicopters have proven to be a been a much smarter way to fight there.

The mujahadeen, as I'm sure you know, were the roots of today's AQ.

I can guarantee you the USSR would not have given up on Afghanistan if the price of oil weren't so low. They had strategic vital interests in the region- natural gas and oil from the lower Caspian Sea region. This is the real reason they were there.

As for the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, it was indeed created by Bin Laden, Pakistani ISI, and the CIA. The name Al Qaeda was given to them by the CIA because they found the intranetwork Bin Laden used to keep track of his soldiers in the field- Al Qaeda translation in English is 'the record'.

bulloncoins
10-03-2007, 07:36 AM
You mean it wasn't Leo Wanta??

I thought I was the only person in America who was following that story.........

Seems that way anyway......I have Never talked with anyone else who has ever heard of Leo Wanta .

If the story is true, we are all so screwed. Weird thing is, It does seem to explain so much of what has been happening all over the world.

peruvianRP
10-03-2007, 07:37 AM
http://www.iags.org/n0124052.htm

Although battlefield victories are crucial, history shows that global wars have been decided on a different kind of front: the war between economic powers. World War II soldiers clashed on the beaches of Normandy and Guadalcanal, but only when the German and Japanese war industries ran out of cash and raw materials did the wheels of the Whehrmacht and the Imperial Army finally grind to a halt. The Cold War could have gone on for decades if not for the depletion of the Kremlin's coffers.

The war on radical Islam is no different. Osama bin Laden plans strategies based on his victory over the Soviets in Afghanistan during the 1980s. Feasibility aside, he believes the way to bring down a superpower is to weaken its economy through protracted guerilla warfare. We "bled Russia for ten years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden boasted in his October 2004 videotape.

The October video, released just before the U.S. election, offers a glimpse into the jihadist strategy. "We are continuing in the same policy to make America bleed profusely to the point of bankruptcy," said bin Laden. His logic is simple: To bring the U.S. to suffer a fate similar to that of the Soviet Union, the terrorists need to drain America's resources and bring it to the point it can no longer afford to preserve its military and economic dominance. As the U.S. loses standing in the Middle East, the jihadists can gain ground and remove from power regimes they view as corrupt and illegitimate while defeating other infidels who inhabit the land of Islam.

CJP
10-03-2007, 07:45 AM
Funny, yesterday I clicked on a talk radio station I hadn't listened to in forever, and I heard Glen Beck for the first time. The first thing I head him say was that the Republicans with their big spending, etc. are now just like the Democrats that Republicans used to criticise, and that the Democrats are just a more socialist version of their former selves.

If he could just wake up and realize that being anti-war is not evil ;) , he would definitely be ripe for conversion.

Tratzman
10-03-2007, 07:46 AM
I thought I was the only person in America who was following that story.........

Seems that way anyway......I have Never talked with anyone else who has ever heard of Leo Wanta .

If the story is true, we are all so screwed. Weird thing is, It does seem to explain so much of what has been happening all over the world.

We GLP'ers know about Wanta, Bulloncoins. Best discussion board in the world. I've seen Butch Howdy there quite a bit.


Chad

reduen
10-03-2007, 07:53 AM
We GLP'ers know about Wanta, Bulloncoins. Best discussion board in the world. I've seen Butch Howdy there quite a bit.


Chad

Ok, so should the rest of us who are not in "the know" be googling Leo Wanta or what? :confused:

KewlRonduderules
10-03-2007, 07:57 AM
I am a bit skeptical of his story. You only see Leo Wanta in conspiracy websites.

squirrelbrewer
10-03-2007, 07:57 AM
On his radio show yesterday, Glenn had the president of the NRA on. Out of the blue, Glenn asked him - what do you think of Ron Paul? The guy said that Ron Paul is an unapologetic defender of the 2nd amendment. It was weird though, the way he just brought Ron's name up out of the blue. Obviously he knows Paul has the best 2nd amendment rights voting record; but why would he want to point that out? Does he get a lot of emails about Paul, and doesn't want to completely alienate that segment of his audience??

A couple of months ago, he stated something to the effect of a vote for Libertarianism is a vote for heroin addicts walking down the street with a needle sticking out of their eye. Huh? So many of these talk show hosts get bent out of shape about liberal fear mongering and then turn right around and dish it out to millions.

MsDoodahs
10-03-2007, 08:05 AM
Hmmm.

It sounds to me like he's starting to wake up.

Does he have a large listening/viewing audience or no?

ButchHowdy
10-03-2007, 08:33 AM
Ok, so should the rest of us who are not in "the know" be googling Leo Wanta or what? :confused:

Make sure you reserve a couple hours because Chris Story's website www.worldreports.org just sucks you in!

We must start honing our conspiratorial recognition skills for the Ron Paul Presidency

emilysdad
10-03-2007, 08:57 AM
Ok, so should the rest of us who are not in "the know" be googling Leo Wanta or what? :confused:


I get most of my Wanta here:
http://www.worldreports.org/ (click news archive for history).

It is an interesting story and have been following for over a year. Was mostly skeptical until the mandamus complaint was filed in Virgina, of which I was able to verify. If one understands the cesspool of elitist corruption and control, the story makes a lot of sense.

MsDoodahs
10-03-2007, 09:02 AM
STOP HIJACKING MY THREAD ON GLEN BECK.

:p

(j/k lol...y'all are a hoot, I must say!)

squirrelbrewer
10-03-2007, 09:13 AM
I think Glenn is like a lot of Republicans in that he can't admit that pre-emptive war against Iraq was a mistake. He was one of the biggest drummers of support, and there is too much honor and foolish pride in the way of the truth. Which is sad. Unless they wake up soon, we'll have 4 more years of a Clinton administration. Glenn claims to have the 3rd largest audience in talk radio.

Dartan
10-03-2007, 09:16 AM
On his radio show yesterday, Glenn had the president of the NRA on. Out of the blue, Glenn asked him - what do you think of Ron Paul? The guy said that Ron Paul is an unapologetic defender of the 2nd amendment. It was weird though, the way he just brought Ron's name up out of the blue. Obviously he knows Paul has the best 2nd amendment rights voting record; but why would he want to point that out? Does he get a lot of emails about Paul, and doesn't want to completely alienate that segment of his audience??


He may have been fishing for a bad quote as the NRA and Paul don't get along all that well (seems to be because the NRA is too willing to compromise.) I don't own any guns myself (tho I've been seriously thinking about picking one up lately.)

MsDoodahs
10-03-2007, 09:28 AM
I do not watch the guy but what I saw last night instantly reminded me of the discussion and flyer development here over the weekend, about how once you show neocons that the country is on the brink of bankruptcy, that becomes their fear issue.

(I believe many neocon supporters are addicted to fear.)

werdd
10-03-2007, 10:07 AM
Glenn beck is so inconsistent that some times i will watch him and love him, and others i will be disgusted. He think's iran is the biggest threat, but then again he realizes our economy is on the verge of collapse. I think hes drinking again to be honest.

hard@work
10-03-2007, 10:31 AM
It's the war. It's always the war. They can't stop supporting the occupation either out of pride (saving face) or direction from whomever employs them.

BizmanUSA
10-03-2007, 10:36 AM
YO - Guys,

Remember this is ENTERTAINMENT Talk Radio and Beck, Rush, Insanity Hanity and all the others (way TOO many) survive only by the ratings.

Sure there they do the round robin circuit to satisfy what they call their army of supporters but they are in it for them and them ONLY!

Almost sounds like they are a stereotype poltician -Yikes! :rolleyes:

However, on Beck's opening radio monologue yesterday he was marching a straight line behind the Ron Paul platform like I have never heard before - I thought a mini Glenn Beck was going jump out of my car stereo waving a Vote for RON PAUL for President sign! :D

Just maybe he is a closet RP fan and is just sitting on his hands until it is time to committ from a public figure standpoint - Then there is always the possibility that he is just another schmuck!:eek:

BizmanUSA