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Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-18-2009, 10:48 PM
There has always existed in this world a natural economy based on the long standing traditions of tyranny (pimping and whoring). This economy prints whatever amount of money it needs, while always having its healthcare tended to, along with always having a shiney pair of shoes to wear, as well as a nicely pressed suit and tie.
The "people" are the ones who need to establish an economy for their well being. "We the people" (commoners) in the United States have enjoyed a great economy based on a Civil Purpose established by our Christian Founding Fathers in two formal documents, one being The Declaration of Independence, our official divorce from tyranny, and the other one being The U.S. Constitution, as our official marriage to a more perfect government.
Contrary to many who comment in this forum, we don't need experts of any kind to explain our Civil Purpose to us. For this is self-evident in truth and unalienably American and thus bipartisan. This Civil Purpose cannot be destroyed, burned, blown up, usurped, shot, rapded, pillaged, or poisoned. It exists equally in the least trespassing prostitute as it does in the greatest King sitting on the throne.
So, please quit trying to manipulate us towards that which is in our best interest. Benefitting 51% of us at the expense of the other 49% has left this nation in a shambles. There is no magic empty box to sell. No quick fixes or solutions We have lots of problems and thus lots of work to do and that means closing down Washington D.C.. Else we recreate the Roman Empire which had all its operations centered in Rome. We solve our problems on the local level, we lobby the empty box on the Federal.

heavenlyboy34
11-18-2009, 10:52 PM
Some good points, but the solution you desire is unclear.

__27__
11-18-2009, 10:55 PM
Probably agree in general, but our founding fathers were not "Christians", as though they were all Christian and intended this country to be founded on the Christian religion. Many were Christians, many were deists, some were agnostic or otherwise. To suggest the founders who had experienced religious persecution of many flavors wished to instill any type of religious sentiment to their new government is to write your own story in place of history.

And secondly, what was wrong with the Articles of Confederation?

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-18-2009, 11:03 PM
Some good points, but the solution you desire is unclear.


. . . yet to happen.
What part of "self-evident" do you not understand? I'm not about to explain anything to you because you are as American as I am. The truth reduces "unalienably." This means it reduces beyond the mind to be known by the heart of the soul, this being the conscience of every human being. It also means that the least trespassing prostitute has the same business agenda as the greatest King sitting on the throne who owns everything (the king once owned all property, both public and private). Over time, this truth has transferred the title of property over to the trespassing prostitute (with her representing 'the people.') Of course, this truth also exposes the great burden of what it means to be an American.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-18-2009, 11:15 PM
Probably agree in general, but our founding fathers were not "Christians", as though they were all Christian and intended this country to be founded on the Christian religion. Many were Christians, many were deists, some were agnostic or otherwise. To suggest the founders who had experienced religious persecution of many flavors wished to instill any type of religious sentiment to their new government is to write your own story in place of history.

And secondly, what was wrong with the Articles of Confederation?

First off, we are the ones who determine, not them. therefore we should formalize our Founding Fathers like this. As Plato once said that one might develop the informal, natural beauty to a more inward Beauty, we should refer to our Founding Fathers likewise. It is our choise.
Secondly, Christianity experienced a rebirth (renaissance) through Martin Luther. As a result, Christians are still waking up even today from what was once almost a total loss of the history of Christ. Granted, while our Chrstian Founding Fathers were not the strongest of Christians, there really wasn't such a thing back then anyway.
Our Founding Fathers established a government on a natural law. That is the most important point. This wasn't a political science. It was created on an undeniable truth. No opposing arguments exist to challenge it. No alternative theories will ever exist to over throw it. No philosophies will ever exist to question it.

__27__
11-18-2009, 11:19 PM
First off, we are the ones who determine, not them. therefore we should formalize our Founding Fathers like this. As Plato once said that one might develop the informal, natural beauty to a more inward Beauty, we should refer to our Founding Fathers likewise. It is our choise.
Secondly, Christianity experienced a rebirth (renaissance) through Martin Luther. As a result, Christians are still waking up even today from what was once almost a total loss of the history of Christ. Granted, while our Chrstian Founding Fathers were not the strongest of Christians, there really wasn't such a thing back then anyway.
Our Founding Fathers established a government on a natural law. That is the most important point. This wasn't a political science. It was created on an undeniable truth. No opposing arguments exist to challenge it. No alternative theories will ever exist to over throw it. No philosophies will ever exist to question it.

:rolleyes:

NoHero
11-18-2009, 11:29 PM
Like I said in another forum... if the Roman emperor Constantine would have converted to Buddhism, and started the Roman Buddhist Church, all of Europe would have become Buddhist and so would America.

Maybe a guy like Martin Luther would have came about and started a reformed version of it later, to take it back to it's Asian roots. Religion is just part of cultures.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
11-19-2009, 12:17 PM
Like I said in another forum... if the Roman emperor Constantine would have converted to Buddhism, and started the Roman Buddhist Church, all of Europe would have become Buddhist and so would America.

Maybe a guy like Martin Luther would have came about and started a reformed version of it later, to take it back to it's Asian roots. Religion is just part of cultures.

You are confusing the faith of Christianity with the religion established on property in buildings by Constantine. The earliest Christians were mostly slaves who met under overturned fishing vessels. This is why the interior designs of a lot of Church buildings look a lot like overturned fishing vessels even today. The reason for posting watchmen was to keep a look out for Roman authority. By Roman law, any person caught worshipping a false prophet was condemned to suffer the same penalty as that false prophet. There existed no written Word at that time as the history of Christ was kept in the oral tradition which was typical for that time because of the lack of paper.
Seeing that the faith of Christianity was taking hold all across Europe, Constantine, being a shrewed politician, chose to convert. But he didn't convert outright joining in with the present faith, no, choosing to create a religion instead that he could control. That is where Saint Augustine stepped into the picture.

When reading The Declaration of Independence carefully, one realizes our Christian Founding Fathers intentions to establish a formal culture. This formal culture is the self-evident truth known to every human soul as it unalienably reduces to that extent. The reality we see is a deception in comparison to this self-evident truth.

Our Founding Fathers were standing under God's judgement when signing their names to our divorce decree from tyranny. That is why this nation is blessed.

Buddhism did not start off as a religion but as a philosophy. The whole point in the Buddhist philosophy is to acheive Nervana -- the state of unborn. Since the vicious cycle of Hindu reincarnation caused a lot of suffering in the way of old age, hunger and illness, Buddha concluded it is better not to be born.

This is quite significant because Buddha's actions were considered the actions of God because he was reincarnated from a human being into that of another human being and not into the embodiment of an animal. The Hindu religion would have disappeared following after his philosophy so it chose to ignore him. This is why Buddhism disappeared in India while it proliferated in nearby China and southeast Asia. Unfortunately, the philosophy of Buddhism has evolved into an extensive religion.