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AuH20
11-17-2009, 10:00 AM
(note: some mature language)

YouTube - "Ship Of Fools" by Dr. Theodore Kaczynski (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKh1mOeXfqE&feature=related)



If it wasn't so true, it would be much funnier.

Todd
11-17-2009, 10:14 AM
Did THE Ted Kaczynski write this?

AuH20
11-17-2009, 10:17 AM
Did THE Ted Kaczynski write this?

It was inspired by a short story he penned:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Fools_%28story%29


Ship of Fools is a short story written by Ted Kaczynski in which various people, representing oppressed groups in American society, squabble about living conditions aboard a ship, in spite of the fact that its course towards the North Pole presents ever-increasing danger. The cabin boy warns of their impending doom and calls for a few of them to charge the poop deck and oust the captains. However, he is dismissed as a violent, unrealistic fascist and ignored. The story concludes abruptly:

They pushed him away and went back to grumbling about wages, and about blankets for women, and about the right to suck cocks, and about how the dog was treated. The ship kept sailing north, and after a while it was crushed between two icebergs and everyone drowned.

The story can be seen as an allegory of Kaczynski's vision of how society is progressing as outlined in his manifesto.
[edit] Historical Background

Prior to Kaczynski's Ship of Fools, there was a moralistic poem written in 1494 by Sebastian Brant titled Das Narrenschiff (Ship of Fools), which in turn inspired a painting of the same name by Hieronymus Bosch, as well as a novel titled Ship of Fools by Katherine Anne Porter based on this earlier work, both of which employ characters who symbolize different vices upon a ship together.

constituent
11-17-2009, 10:18 AM
YouTube - Grateful Dead...ship of fools...5.9.77 buffalo NY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9eL9QKlp0g)

Todd
11-17-2009, 10:22 AM
It was inspired by a short story he penned:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Fools_%28story%29

When you remove all the violence, then his vision doesn't seem very crazy at all.

AuH20
11-17-2009, 10:27 AM
When you remove all the violence, then his vision doesn't seem very crazy at all.

The man was a mathematical genius and quite sane despite what the mental health care professional classify him as. I just vehemently disagree with his course of action however. It's a shame that those murderous acts overshadow his timeless message.

constituent
11-17-2009, 10:33 AM
The man was a mathematical genius and quite sane despite what the mental health care professional classify him as. I just vehemently disagree with his course of action however. It's a shame that those murderous acts overshadow his timeless message.

The funny thing about the whole unibomber situation is that, imo, people still would have heard him out if he didn't look so crazy when they pulled him out of his cabin...

maybe a little hair gel or something, and most people would have probably listened.

pcosmar
11-17-2009, 11:10 AM
For your consideration,
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=MK+Ultra+Ted+Kaczynski+&aq=9&aqi=g10&oq=MK+Ultra+&fp=1c443ffcb5a5cce1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA#Notable_subjects

A considerable amount of credible circumstantial evidence suggests that Theodore Kaczynski, also known as the Unabomber, participated in CIA-sponsored MK-ULTRA experiments conducted at Harvard University from the fall of 1959 through the spring of 1962. .[44] During World War II, Henry Murray, the lead researcher in the Harvard experiments, served with the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), which was a forerunner of the CIA. Murray applied for a grant funded by the United States Navy, and his Harvard stress experiments strongly resembled those run by the OSS.[44] Beginning at the age of sixteen, Kaczynski participated along with twenty-one other undergraduate students in the Harvard experiments, which have been described as "disturbing" and "ethically indefensible."

ScoutsHonor
11-17-2009, 08:31 PM
The funny thing about the whole unibomber situation is that, imo, people still would have heard him out if he didn't look so crazy when they pulled him out of his cabin...

maybe a little hair gel or something, and most people would have probably listened.

Way to make life-changing decisions, circa America 2000....

Too damn sad.

Danke
11-17-2009, 08:59 PM
(note: some mature language)

If it wasn't so true, it would be much funnier.

Thanks, that was interesting.

Dieseler
11-17-2009, 09:23 PM
What is that up ahead?
An Iceberg?
Ahh, cool.
We are definitely headed North.