VIDEO - Pro-amnesty supporters turn violent in Fort Lauderdale

[qh4dotcom]

YouTube - immattack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qPhnepoEuQ)

[Uriel999]

damn!

[qh4dotcom]

Can anyone tell who are the pro-amnesty folks in this video?

[james1906]

What's the story with the guy in the hat? Is he a reporter who was walking away from a story?

Also, the criminals are in the building behind them.

[sofia]

Can anyone tell who are the pro-amnesty folks in this video?

the guys with the signs were carrying Che Guevarra signs...they are the pro-amnesty

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

Okay, so what those guys did was immature and silly, I agree.

So what about the proposal to force hispanics out of their homes at gunpoint? Anybody?

[qh4dotcom]

Immigration reform supporters are a joke...look who they voted for last year...pro-amnesty McCain or pro-amnesty Obama.

[Dieseler]

Okay, so what those guys did was immature and silly, I agree.

So what about the proposal to force hispanics out of their homes at gunpoint? Anybody?

Are they illegals?
What proposal?

[angelatc]

Okay, so what those guys did was immature and silly, I agree.

So what about the proposal to force hispanics out of their homes at gunpoint? Anybody?

All hispanics ? That doesn't sound right. That sounds like a bit of demagoguery.

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

What do you mean by "illegals"? I've been driving around in Pennsylvania for 8 months with an Illinois license, and I haven't touched my tax returns. You could say I'm an illegal (or semi-illegal).

"Illegals" are doing one of the most noble things you can do in a world where thugs claim ownership of your body, land, and labor: breaking the law


All hispanics ? That doesn't sound right. That sounds like a bit of demagoguery.Obviously not all hispanics, but the ones who are here without the "proper identification." I seem to even remember Paul mentioning the idea of sending them out of the country forcefully, but I could have misunderstood

[Bman]

Obviously not all hispanics, but the ones who are here without the "proper identification." I seem to even remember Paul mentioning the idea of sending them out of the country forcefully, but I could have misunderstood

There's a bit of a difference on opinion on this subject. Personally I believe if you end the welfare state you also end the reason to want to force these people out at gunpoint. We don't need walls, we need policy changes.

[Nate]

There's a bit of a difference on opinion on this subject. Personally I believe if you end the welfare state you also end the reason to want to force these people out at gunpoint. We don't need walls, we need policy changes.

+100000000000

Force is the tool of the ignorant statist barbarian. There is almost always a better way to do things & solve problems.

The best way to eliminate the parasites is by eliminating the system that allows & encourages parasitical behavior.

[Carson]

The communist, open borders people are all for open borders until someone wonders into their area and then they get all belligerent.

[WClint]

We should bring home the troops and use them to deport the mexican illegals or put them in fema camps!

[angelatc]

What do you mean by "illegals"? I've been driving around in Pennsylvania for 8 months with an Illinois license, and I haven't touched my tax returns. You could say I'm an illegal (or semi-illegal).

"Illegals" are doing one of the most noble things you can do in a world where thugs claim ownership of your body, land, and labor: breaking the law

Obviously not all hispanics, but the ones who are here without the "proper identification." I seem to even remember Paul mentioning the idea of sending them out of the country forcefully, but I could have misunderstood

I agree with Paul. If they are here illegally, send them home. The only reason I don't support the concept of busting down their doors is because we have a right to be secure in our homes, *and* the government is too inept to limit such raids to only illegal aliens.

We have a real unemployment rate approaching 20%. THey need to go home and feed off their own recsrouces, not mine.

You don't like it - go start your own country.

[angelatc]

There's a bit of a difference on opinion on this subject. Personally I believe if you end the welfare state you also end the reason to want to force these people out at gunpoint. We don't need walls, we need policy changes.

But we're not going to end the welfare state. That hasn't been on the table for 25 years now, while we still have a shot at reducing their rolls by enforcing the laws that are already on the books.

[angelatc]

+100000000000

Force is the tool of the ignorant statist barbarian. There is almost always a better way to do things & solve problems.



It's also far more effective than philosophy. The corporate masters are sucessfully enslaving us by ignoring the law. That's a great way to do things.

Or - maybe pass new laws! Then those can be ignored too, like the paperwork flurry the Reagan immigration reform created.

[SelfTaught]

We should bring home the troops and use them to deport the mexican illegals or put them in fema camps!

I don't know about the Fema camps part, but I think it would be a better use of their time if the troops were brought home from around the globe and used to "escort" illegals back to their respective homes. Is it fair? Yes, I think it is. Illegals knew when they came here that there was a chance they may be deported. They gambled and if they lose, it's on them.

[angelatc]

I don't know about the Fema camps part, but I think it would be a better use of their time if the troops were brought home from around the globe and used to "escort" illegals back to their respective homes. Is it fair? Yes, I think it is. Illegals knew when they came here that there was a chance they may be deported. They gambled and if they lose, it's on them.

The problem there is allowing the troops to be used on US soil. Once we allow the precedent it won't be long until they're staffing checkpoints on every corner.

[Meatwasp]

There's a bit of a difference on opinion on this subject. Personally I believe if you end the welfare state you also end the reason to want to force these people out at gunpoint. We don't need walls, we need policy changes.

right on kiddo

[constituent]

But we're not going to end the welfare state. That hasn't been on the table for 25 years now, while we still have a shot at reducing their rolls by enforcing the laws that are already on the books.

enforcing unconstitutional laws. sounds like a winner.

[constituent]

The problem there is allowing the troops to be used on US soil. Once we allow the precedent it won't be long until they're staffing checkpoints on every corner.

i agree with this assessment. we see the same thing happening w/ enforcing unconstitutional laws. once the precedent is set that it is ok to enforce unconstitutional laws, then no one should really ever be expected to follow the constitution.

[bobbyw24]

YouTube - Tea Parties Against Amnesty & Illegal Immigration Covered On Fox News (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0XrNJAqCq0)

[Mandrik]

Same vid, but with sound:

YouTube - Tea Party Protesters Assaulted by Illegal Alien Amnesty Supporters in Ft. Lauderdale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekW3HmlnYS4)

[Lord Xar]

wow, if their fighting ability is any indication of their ability to win "open border amnesty", we'd be assured of never having to worry ----> sadly, this isn't the case.

[Cowlesy]

Must be a "Hot Topic"

[Dieseler]

...and some people think we aren't on the brink of Civil War II.



wow, if their fighting ability is any indication /Snip.
;)

[dannno]

Ahhh Shitty Bank..

[dannno]

The big guy with muscles who started the fight.. COINTELPRO??

[Dieseler]

The big guy with muscles who started the fight.. COINTELPRO??

Batting practice.

[constituent]

crazy, the "pro-amnesty" guy looked like your typical skinhead.

staged event?

[JoshLowry]

I believe if you end the welfare state you also end the reason to want to force these people out at gunpoint. We don't need walls, we need policy changes.

This is right on. When you subsidize something, you get more of it.


while we still have a shot at reducing their rolls by enforcing the laws that are already on the books.

Why do you think we have a shot at enforcing the laws when you know that they are ignored?


The corporate masters are sucessfully enslaving us by ignoring the law. That's a great way to do things.

Or - maybe pass new laws! Then those can be ignored too, like the paperwork flurry the Reagan immigration reform created.

Why even deport "illegals"? The drain that they might create on the system is minimal compared to what the federal reserve is doing. Pick your battles. I don't think keeping out illegals will solve much of what is wrong with our government.

[JoshLowry]

crazy, the "pro-amnesty" guy looked like your typical skinhead.

staged event?

1. I see lots of skinheaded latinos every day in Houston. My brother in law is half mexican but he looks white.

2. That's not a staged fight.

[constituent]

1. I see lots of skinheaded latinos every day in Houston.


That guy didn't look latino to me... That said, "skinhead" typically refers to a way of life (an identifier of certain group allegiances), more so than a hairdo.



2. That's not a staged fight.

I'd like to see the police report from this incident. In particular, who pressed charges against whom?

Perhaps you could point me to it?

[dannno]

I don't think the entire thing was staged, I just find it odd that the biggest guy in the group who happened to look like a skinhead started it... I think he was trying to get the anti-amnesty people to pull out weapons and make a violent attack against the pro-amnesty crowd.

[constituent]

I don't think the entire thing was staged

yea, the dirty hippy seemed like he was in it for real.

[constituent]

I think he was trying to get the anti-amnesty people to pull out weapons and make a violent attack against the pro-amnesty crowd.

Naaah, he probably showed up 10 minutes before the fight trying to dupe suckers (see dirty hippy) into getting his back.

Cue unfriendly to get into peoples' faces with his camera (standard intimidation practice), and bam! What you see is what you get.

What I would really like to know is how long the individual who got all this on tape was positioned directly across the street BEFORE the fight broke out.


Edit, I guess the most telling part of the video happens at about :52 when the black shirted tripod carrying dude sees his buddy being held down, and makes a break to rescue him... When he gets there he stops like, "duh, wtf am I doing? that would be too obvious."

[Dieseler]

Lol.

[Cowlesy]

people fight *shrug*

[EndDaFed]

I don't think the entire thing was staged, I just find it odd that the biggest guy in the group who happened to look like a skinhead started it... I think he was trying to get the anti-amnesty people to pull out weapons and make a violent attack against the pro-amnesty crowd.

It looks like the other guy grabbed him.

[JoshLowry]

people fight *shrug*

+1

Lots of fights are recorded too. Lots of cameras at political events.

Guy looks like he could be on steroids and have anger management problems.

/me wastes more time

[LibForestPaul]

The problem there is allowing the troops to be used on US soil. Once we allow the precedent it won't be long until they're staffing checkpoints on every corner.

And you would expect something different?

ex.
person1 no id
person2 id - visa - overstayed
person3 id - citizen

How many people above are not "allowed to be here" ?
1 or 2?

[LibForestPaul]

i.e. Anyone who supports investigating, arresting, and deporting "illegals", supports required id's, fingerprinting, and checkpoints, and number to your name.

[Dieseler]

i.e. Anyone who supports investigating, arresting, and deporting "illegals", supports required id's, fingerprinting, and checkpoints, and number to your name.

Do you know any legal of age citizen who doesn't have an ID of some sort? It's a pretty standard thing.
Don't get me wrong, I would love it if America had some sort of Out-land where ID abstinent people could move to and live off the land, that would be great but it's not happening.

[constituent]

Don't get me wrong, I would love it if America had some sort of Out-land where ID abstinent people could move to and live off the land, that would be great but it's not happening.

Some call it Texas, but me... I just call it home.