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bobbyw24
11-14-2009, 07:10 AM
http://prospect.org/cs/articles?article=that_old_republican_revival


The GOP has officially declared its 2010 resurgence, and why not? This is as good a time as any. The party won all the big statewide elections last week, and it's pulling ahead in Gallup's generic congressional ballot this week. For the first time this year, more people say they will vote for the Republican candidate in next year's midterm congressional election than for the Democrat. No wonder conservatives are happy.

But in so many ways this GOP "resurgence" reminds me of the Democratic resurgence of 1998, when the Democrats needed 12 seats to take control of the House and only got five. Or maybe it's more akin to the resurgence of 2000, when Democrats won the popular vote but lost the White House, and picked up four seats in the Senate but only mustered a split that could be broken by Dick Cheney. Then, of course, there were the 2002 midterms where the Democratic "resurgence" defied expectations and lost two seats in the Senate and eight seats in the House, giving Republicans clear majorities in both chambers. And for all of Democrats' hope and hype in 2004, George W. Bush stayed on in the White House and the GOP remained firmly in control

Liberty Star
11-14-2009, 11:22 AM
Some in GOP grassroots have seen the light but GOP overall seems just as ignorant and misdirected as it was during Bush/Cheney regime barring some partisan reflexive flip flops.
All leaders in Republican party - with few exceptions - are tainted and the guy they would nominate in 2012 would likely be someone like McCain who will be defeated by smooth operator Obama. GOP resurgence seems too wishful at this stage.

Dunedain
11-14-2009, 11:31 AM
Both parties are filled with traitors hell bent on ruining the nation. Only their method differs.

They both agree on the most critical issues that are ruining the nation such as promoting massive 3rd world immigration and bankrupting the nation by fighting foreign wars against Israel's enemies and giving billions of dollars to New York financial companies.

Their differing stance on things like abortion, gun control, health care are irrelevant. None of these things the federal government was ever supposed to regulate in the first place.

AuH20
11-14-2009, 11:37 AM
There will be an incredible resurgence thanks to the backlash to the democrats, but it will be poorly sustained if the typical Republican candidate is elected. Look at the healthcare alternative the GOP offered for example. What were they thinking?

Liberty Star
11-14-2009, 12:17 PM
Both parties are filled with crooks and both follow same policies to fleece public interest. There is building some serious backlash against incumbancy of power in Washington but GOP is married to that incumbancy and what it represents, it cannot expect to cash in on that resentment.

There is good opportunity for viable 3rd party candidates/libertarians, default R & D fights probably keep White House in the hands of dems with minor changes in the two houses. "Incumbents beware" but GOP has no real reason to start counting on growing public backlash.

Oyate
11-14-2009, 12:28 PM
I expect we are the "resurgence" and the GOP is using Beck and such clowns to draw honest intentions into their corrupt fold. However, we're gonna track two ways: alternative parties or working in the GOP framework. Either one is damaging to the neocon GOP machine. What this does to us vis-a-vis the democratic voting block I could really give a damn about. I take the long view on that.

Aratus
11-19-2009, 02:08 PM
if sarah palin's almost Au~h2o energy is a post-nixonian newfound legitimacy... then
does she narrowly defeat the democrat in 2012 or 2016 sweetly, reetly and nicely???

Ethek
11-19-2009, 02:17 PM
Full tilt into the 4th Turning. Everyone holding on?

The only common trait of turnings is that the outcomes are often totally unexpected by those that experiance them. The last two have resulted in massive centralizations of Gov power. I expect the same this time. Perhaps we will be pleasently supprised.