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DrNoZone
10-02-2007, 02:41 PM
I'm listening to a live interview now on the David Allen show...and this came out of his mouth right up front.

Patrick Henry
10-02-2007, 02:42 PM
I'm listening to a live interview now on the David Allen show...and this came out of his mouth right up front.

Oh my! if true, wow!

nullvalu
10-02-2007, 02:42 PM
And, why wasn't this board informed of the interview!?? :D

DrNoZone
10-02-2007, 02:43 PM
They have! It's in another channel on the forum. See this thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=21752

Drknows
10-02-2007, 02:44 PM
ah it feels so good to be right.

Sematary
10-02-2007, 02:45 PM
I'm listening to a live interview now on the David Allen show...and this came out of his mouth right up front.

What did he say - EXACTLY?

brumans
10-02-2007, 02:46 PM
I hope we break 5 million!
I think it's a safe bet now that we got at least 4 million

Sematary
10-02-2007, 02:47 PM
I hope we break 5 million!
I think it's a safe bet now that we got at least 4 million

My initial guess was 6.5 mil (at least a month ago). I think I may have overestimated but I don't think I missed it by much.

LibertyEagle
10-02-2007, 02:47 PM
It's good, but geez folks, it's still chicken feed compared to so many of the others. It's going to be very hard to conduct a national campaign with just 4 or 5 million dollars.

DrNoZone
10-02-2007, 02:47 PM
What did he say - EXACTLY?

He was asked when the numbers would be released, and he said sometime this week though he's not sure when exactly. And then he started talking about how well fundraising went, mentioned the $1 million online, and said something to the effect of 3Q is going to be impressive, it might even be double what they raised in 2Q. I was so excited when I heard it I couldn't quote it down exactly.

I'm sure the podcast will be up at some point and we can confirm exactly what words he used.

DrNoZone
10-02-2007, 02:49 PM
Ok, he talked about it again just now...


"I think we will have raised more than all of the other 2nd tier candidates combined, and I think that makes us a 1st tier"

"we may have more money on hand than Romney if you discount what he's given to his own campaign"

"last time we had more cash on hand than McCain, and I think we'll have more cash on hand than McCain again this time"

Holy crap!

I hope he knows how fast this will spread.

Sematary
10-02-2007, 02:49 PM
It's good, but geez folks, it's still chicken feed compared to so many of the others. It's going to be very hard to conduct a national campaign with just 4 or 5 million dollars.

Not if it's done prudently. Plus - 4th quarter dollars will still be rolling in. If the campaign commits funds to the early primary states and REALLY goes after them with the money they have, more money will follow when he wins.

JMann
10-02-2007, 02:49 PM
It's good, but geez folks, it's still chicken feed compared to so many of the others. It's going to be very hard to conduct a national campaign with just 4 or 5 million dollars.

You forget that Paul's campaign has the most dedicated volunteers. 5 Million to Paul is probably worth 2 or 3 times that amount to other candidates.

Sematary
10-02-2007, 02:50 PM
Ok, he talked about it again just now...


"I think we will have raised more than all of the other 2nd tier candidates combined"

"we may have more money on hand than Romney if you discount what he's given to his own campaign"

"last time we had more cash on hand than McCain, and I think we'll have more cash on hand than McCain again this time"

Holy crap!

I hope he knows how fast this will spread.

That is AWESOME!

OptionsTrader
10-02-2007, 02:50 PM
I walked away for a sec. Is the interview over? Hearing commercials at the moment.

LibertyEagle
10-02-2007, 02:51 PM
You forget that Paul's campaign has the most dedicated volunteers. 5 Million to Paul is probably worth 2 or 3 times that amount to other candidates.

That's true. Maybe I'm just frustrated today, because what I see the most of lately is a lot of flailing about.

Johnnybags
10-02-2007, 02:52 PM
It's good, but geez folks, it's still chicken feed compared to so many of the others. It's going to be very hard to conduct a national campaign with just 4 or 5 million dollars.

It may be chicken feed to a Fred Thompson (Bush) 2,300 a pop candidate but its not to Ron, with all the grassroots effectively doubling it. If we have tons of donors its more important right now. How many Thompsonites are tapped? Imagine if he still has 1 mil left from the first quarter and another 4-5 now? Pretty good efficiency.

OptionsTrader
10-02-2007, 02:53 PM
I walked away for a sec. Is the interview over? Hearing commercials at the moment.


Nevermind, back on.

DrNoZone
10-02-2007, 02:53 PM
Rand Paul just said on a live radio interview:


"I think we will have raised more than all of the other 2nd tier candidates combined, and I think that makes us a 1st tier"

"we may have more money on hand than Romney if you discount what he's given to his own campaign"

"last time we had more cash on hand than McCain, and I think we'll have more cash on hand than McCain again this time"


After all of the speculation about 3Q, I can't believe this thread isn't just exploding right now.

MsDoodahs
10-02-2007, 02:53 PM
It only seems that way because we had the fundraiser last week to keep us focused.

:)

Chester Copperpot
10-02-2007, 02:54 PM
That can still be just $3.5 million.. The other 2nd tier probably didnt raise shit.. Romney probably has NEGATIVE money after his loans so that doesnt tell me anything... its too ambiguous... now if he said we might have MORE than doubled then that would be impressive

OptionsTrader
10-02-2007, 02:55 PM
16 years of freedom

Ron Paul - 8 years
Rand Paul - 8 years

Chester Copperpot
10-02-2007, 02:56 PM
16 years of freedom

Ron Paul - 8 years
Rand Paul - 8 years

DOnt forget the grandkids

DrNoZone
10-02-2007, 02:57 PM
Double 2Q would be $4.8 million

MsDoodahs
10-02-2007, 02:58 PM
That can still be just $3.5 million.. The other 2nd tier probably didnt raise shit.. Romney probably has NEGATIVE money after his loans so that doesnt tell me anything... its too ambiguous... now if he said we might have MORE than doubled then that would be impressive

If Rand said we may have actually DOUBLED q2, how is that 3.5? I thought q2 was 2.4, which doubling would be 4.8, wouldn't it?

:confused:

Chester Copperpot
10-02-2007, 02:58 PM
Hes gotta break $5 just for GP

Chester Copperpot
10-02-2007, 02:58 PM
If Rand said we may have actually DOUBLED q2, how is that 3.5? I thought q2 was 2.4, which doubling would be 4.8, wouldn't it?

:confused:

Because he said we 'MAY' doesnt mean we DID or we WILL HAVE

born2drv
10-02-2007, 02:59 PM
i really hope he breaks 5, and more importantly i hope he beat mccain, that will be a tremendous blow to the so-called "top tier club".... and i hope the huckster gets less then 1M so he can go hide somewhere and let the big boys battle it out.... if he's lucky one of us will pick him for VP ;)

DrNoZone
10-02-2007, 02:59 PM
Because he said we 'MAY' doesnt mean we DID or we WILL HAVE

Of course it doesn't, but why would he even speculate that if he didn't believe it based on the information he has available?

Original_Intent
10-02-2007, 03:01 PM
Great news if true. I will stick with my 3.5 million estimate and then be pleasantly surprised when I hear otherwise.

Chester Copperpot
10-02-2007, 03:01 PM
Of course it doesn't, but why would he even speculate that if he didn't believe it based on the information he has available?

Why did Free market news tell everybody RP was the $6 million man last quarter?

shrug?

4Horsemen
10-02-2007, 03:01 PM
Why are we doing this?

DrNoZone
10-02-2007, 03:02 PM
Why did Free market news tell everybody RP was the $6 million man last quarter?

shrug?

FMN isn't Rand Paul, and they don't have nearly the inside scoop that he does.

Look, regardless of your opinion about the comment, it IS news.

DjLoTi
10-02-2007, 03:02 PM
Why are we doing this?

We live in the NOW NOW NOW I WANT IT NOW culture and society.

fletcher
10-02-2007, 03:03 PM
Because he said we 'MAY' doesnt mean we DID or we WILL HAVE

How could you possible construe 'may be double last quarter' to mean '45% more than last quarter'? Where did you pull $3.5 million from?

Chester Copperpot
10-02-2007, 03:06 PM
How could you possible construe 'may be double last quarter' to mean '45% more than last quarter'? Where did you pull $3.5 million from?

Because aropund $3.5 is the only number we know for sure.. $2.5 + 700K. $3.2 million

so $3.2 million is actually the only thing we know is guaranteed.

hey I want it to be 10 million.. I personally figured on $5.5 million.. But we shall see.


IM sorry for being skeptical.. im not usually this way

ghemminger
10-02-2007, 03:07 PM
Perspective Clinton can raise 20 MILLion at the drop of a dime - this is nothing the MSM will get excited about - It will guarrantee us representation on the airwaves.

DjLoTi
10-02-2007, 03:07 PM
I am betting on a 100 million million

MsDoodahs
10-02-2007, 03:07 PM
We live in the NOW NOW NOW I WANT IT NOW culture and society.

Yes, and I want it NOW, dammit.

:p

rp4prez
10-02-2007, 03:11 PM
if it's 5 million or more that means he out raised McCain!!! That would mean TOP TEIR! :)

Chester Copperpot
10-02-2007, 03:13 PM
if it's 5 million or more that means he out raised McCain!!! That would mean TOP TEIR! :)

Yes thats why we need to do it

JosephTheLibertarian
10-02-2007, 03:15 PM
It's good, but geez folks, it's still chicken feed compared to so many of the others. It's going to be very hard to conduct a national campaign with just 4 or 5 million dollars.

he also has like 2.4 on hand

born2drv
10-02-2007, 03:16 PM
if it's 5 million or more that means he out raised McCain!!! That would mean TOP TEIR! :)

not necessarily... mccains people are saying it's OVER 5M

actually i'm sorry that's not 100% correct... they said the 5M figure is WRONG.... it coudl be more but let's pray it's less ;)

Drknows
10-02-2007, 03:18 PM
not necessarily... mccains people are saying it's OVER 5M

Isnt Mccain still in debt? I think he would need 10 mil to break even.

fletcher
10-02-2007, 03:21 PM
Because aropund $3.5 is the only number we know for sure.. $2.5 + 700K. $3.2 million
so $3.2 million is actually the only thing we know is guaranteed.
hey I want it to be 10 million.. I personally figured on $5.5 million.. But we shall see.
IM sorry for being skeptical.. im not usually this way

But you said what Rand said could still mean $3.5 million. It can't. You're just ignoring what he said and giving the minimum.

Chester Copperpot
10-02-2007, 03:23 PM
But you said what Rand said could still mean $3.5 million. It can't. You're just ignoring what he said and giving the minimum.

Yes, it could mean anything UP to double. It doesnt automatically mean double.

ItsTime
10-02-2007, 03:23 PM
ill still stick with my 5 to 6 million figure :)

Rand isnt saying this by accident. Ron was jumping out of his skin at the speech on Saturday. It seems that RP could not believe how much he was raising.


DOUBLING YOUR 2Q NUMBER IS HUGE!!! Everyone else is getting less we are getting more. That will be the story and he will catch fire, just you watch :)

krott5333
10-02-2007, 03:23 PM
so when do the 3rd quarter results come out?

how long does it take them to figure out how much money they raised?

Thomas_Paine
10-02-2007, 03:25 PM
so when do the 3rd quarter results come out?

how long does it take them to figure out how much money they raised?

the 15th

Chester Copperpot
10-02-2007, 03:25 PM
ill still stick with my 5 to 6 million figure :)

Rand isnt saying this by accident. Ron was jumping out of his skin at the speech on Saturday. It seems that RP could not believe how much he was raising.


DOUBLING YOUR 2Q NUMBER IS HUGE!!! Everyone else is getting less we are getting more. That will be the story and he will catch fire, just you watch :)

I agree with you 100%... Rand is NOT saying this by accident... They probably want peopel to be pessimisstic and under report

Chester Copperpot
10-02-2007, 03:25 PM
so when do the 3rd quarter results come out?

how long does it take them to figure out how much money they raised?

They can still count checks postmarked the 30th I think

Bradley in DC
10-02-2007, 03:28 PM
I've put all we KNOW about the third quarter fundraising for Dr. Paul and others here (and keep updating it):

http://ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=231563#poststop

kylejack
10-02-2007, 03:41 PM
Easy guys, take it easy. Think low. Think 3.2 million. If its a lot more, we'll get excited. I remember how disappointed some of you were with 2.4 million, but that was really fantastic, and we got a lot of media play for it. Even if its 3.2 million, we will get to say that we out-raised Dodd, Biden, and all Republican Tier 2 candidates (probably all of them combined). Its going to be fantastic. If it turns out to be more, more power to us, but just settle down and think low for now until we get some firm numbers.

Chester Copperpot
10-02-2007, 03:43 PM
I was impressed that we'll do more than Dodd and Biden.. Dodd had some good money in the beginning of the year.. evidently hes got no message... He shoulda taken Bill Maher on his offer and gotten behind Ron Pauls ideas... oh well

Original_Intent
10-02-2007, 04:08 PM
I was very suspicious of John Edwards and his "1 million in ten days" campaign. IT was sitting at 920,000 from the 29th, and then they finally updated it on the first that they "made over a million" but with no exact figure showing (they had been updating it with a dollar amount previously).

The fact that they didn't update it until the 1st makes me think that some very creative accounting took place to meet the goal. I would love for him to get caught cheating on something like this, even if he technically broke no law it would show what a dishonest lowlife he is.

foofighter20x
10-02-2007, 07:08 PM
This is what I suspected when Kent Snyder emailed that if they raised $1M it would blow the media away ($5M at least, I was hoping $10M, but decided that would be a miracle and not practical). ;) :D

Scribbler de Stebbing
10-02-2007, 08:58 PM
If Rand said we may have actually DOUBLED q2, how is that 3.5? I thought q2 was 2.4, which doubling would be 4.8, wouldn't it?

Romney, June '07: "Double Guantonimo."

Paul, October '07: "Doh! I thought he said 'Double Quarter Two.'"

Edit: That's cheesy. I know it's cheesy.