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YumYum
11-07-2009, 10:15 AM
After the banking cartel has stripped us of our wealth they will have to go into hiding. Surely there will be those who want to punish them for what they are about to do to us. But they have been preparing for this.


July 10 (Bloomberg) -- The luxury-submarine business is sometimes hard to fathom.

``If you can find my submarine, it's yours,'' says Russian oil billionaire Roman Abramovich. And that's all the reclusive owner of the Chelsea Football Club has to say.

The ocean floor is the final spending frontier for the world's richest people. Journeying to see what's on the bottom aboard a personal submersible is a wretched excess guaranteed to trump the average mogul's stable of vintage Bugattis or a $38 million round-trip ticket to the International Space Station aboard a Russian rocket.

Luxury-submarine makers and salesmen from the Pacific Ocean to the Persian Gulf say fantasy and secrecy are the foundations of this nautical niche industry built on madcap multibillionaires.

``Everyone down there is a wealthy eccentric,'' says Jean- Claude Carme, vice president of marketing for U.S. Submarines Inc., a Portland, Oregon-based bespoke submarine builder. ``They're all intensely secretive.''

Who owns the estimated 100 luxury subs carousing the Seven Seas mostly remains a mystery.

Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Corp., warned his boat builder that loose lips sink ships.
Undersea Yacht

``Not really supposed to talk about the sub, but it's a fancy one, a mighty nice piece of work,'' says Fred Rodie, one of the engineers who designed Allen's undersea yacht at Olympic Tool & Engineering Inc. in Shelton, Washington.

``If I told you, I'd have to shoot you,'' says Bruce Jones, president and founder of U.S. Submarines, about the names in his client book.

Jones, the 50-year-old son of a marine-construction engineer, built his first diesel- and battery-powered sub in 1993. Every sales contract since then has included a confidentiality clause to protect the buyer's identity.

``This is a nasty cut-throat business,'' Jones says.

Herve Jaubert, a former French Navy commando, swapped his cutlass for a screwdriver in 1995 to build his first luxury submarine. Now chief executive officer of Exomos, a Dubai-based custom-sub maker, Jaubert takes a more romantic view of the work: ``I'm a poet who builds submersible yachts for rich people.''

$80 Million

``Spending $80 million for a boat that goes underwater in a market where one that doesn't costs $150 million is a deal,'' Jones says. ``Our Phoenix 1000 is four stories tall, a 65-meter- long blend of a tourist and military sub.''

The ultimate war submarine, the U.S. Navy's Virginia-class New Attack Submarine, costs $2.4 billion and carries 16 Tomahawk cruise missiles. Jones says the most dangerous projectile aboard the Phoenix 1000 is a Champagne cork.

``Navies want weapon-delivery systems,'' Jones says, walking in a forest near Idaho's Lake Pend Oreille, site of the U.S. Navy's Farragut Naval Submarine Training Station. ``I build luxury-delivery systems for people who have more money than they know what to do with.''

It isn't cheap to run silent and sleep deep.

Jaubert's 10-passenger sub costs $15 million. A gymnasium is optional. U.S. Submarines' mid-size model is the $25 million Seattle 1000, a three-story-tall vessel with five staterooms, five bathrooms, two kitchens, a gym, a wine cellar and a 30- foot-long by 15-foot-wide observation portal. It has a range of 3,000 nautical miles.

Yellow Submarine

``The one thing I won't make for anyone is a yellow submarine,'' Jones says.

The 40-foot-long sub owned by Microsoft's Allen came with a $12 million sticker price and enough extras to remain submerged for a week. Its color: yellow.

Inside the Exomos showroom at Dubai's Jebel Ali Free Zone, customers choose from 14 luxury models. Since 2005, Jaubert's 170 workers have launched 18 vessels. There are 26 clients awaiting delivery on subs such as the trendy Stingray runabout and the fashionable 65-foot-long Proteus luxury liner.

``The Proteus is an underwater bus,'' Jaubert says. ``It's more fun in the Stingray, drives like a Ferrari.''

Jaubert says one of the dangers shared by members of this underwater fraternity of the super-rich is being blown to smithereens by depth charges.

No Torpedoes

``Side sonar scanners are always mistaken for torpedo tubes,'' the 50-year-old engineer says, slapping the blue hull of a three-seat, $350,000 ``sport luxury model'' under construction in his factory. ``Government agencies make visits to see if there are torpedoes aboard our boats. Owners are supposed to let authorities know when they're in the area. They often don't, and it causes problems.''

``What we might do gets into classified Tactics, Techniques and Procedures,'' says U.S. Coast Guard spokesman Steve Blando. ``TTP is not something we talk about.''

As for the chance of Allen's sub being reduced to flotsam, ``We don't comment on personal matters that involve the Allen family,'' says his spokesman, Michael Nank.

In Tahiti, Tetuahau Temaru, son and chief economic- development adviser to former president and current opposition leader Oscar Temaru, says the Pacific island territory is pursuing luxury-submarine skippers to sail into French Polynesia's warm crystal waters.

``Luxury submarines are the future vision for Tahiti,'' Temaru says. ``We call it our life-saving plan. Developing a luxury-submarine market and the tourism that would come from it is on target with visitors enjoying our beaches and marine life.''

As for that marine life, the local dolphin population can be a problem for some submariners.

Jaubert says he has clients who wrestle with how to conduct a deep-sea love affair in front of an observation window without creating an underwater paparazzi.

``Dolphins are easily excited when they sense people making love,'' Jones says. ``They get jealous and bang their noses against the window.''

The best solution? "Curtains", says Jones.


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601093&refer=home&sid=a9s.rOyb3IaU

legion
11-07-2009, 10:36 AM
Who the hell drives these things? :eek: WTF does some multi billionaire know about driving a sub?

Operating ballasts, maintaining large diesel engines and battery banks, navigating around underwater structure (blind), etc... the odds of ending up as fish food seem pretty high.

How does one eccentric billionaire drive something that takes a whole crew to operate? Blows my mind...

JohnMeridith
11-07-2009, 06:16 PM
Who the hell drives these things? :eek: WTF does some multi billionaire know about driving a sub?

Operating ballasts, maintaining large diesel engines and battery banks, navigating around underwater structure (blind), etc... the odds of ending up as fish food seem pretty high.

How does one eccentric billionaire drive something that takes a whole crew to operate? Blows my mind...
just like they don't captain their own boats

Cowlesy
11-07-2009, 06:23 PM
That's pretty cool.

Ron Paul Submarine??

catdd
11-07-2009, 06:26 PM
They gotta come up for air sometime.

Cowlesy
11-07-2009, 06:32 PM
Does the IRS have a navy destroyer with depth-charges?

tangent4ronpaul
11-07-2009, 06:39 PM
Does the IRS have a navy destroyer with depth-charges?

Well, the Consumer Products Safety Commission has a SWAT team and FEMA (the "disaster" people) runs a sniper school. Look for an IRS destroyer in the Fed budget RSN...

-t

devil21
11-07-2009, 06:51 PM
Who the hell drives these things? :eek: WTF does some multi billionaire know about driving a sub?

Operating ballasts, maintaining large diesel engines and battery banks, navigating around underwater structure (blind), etc... the odds of ending up as fish food seem pretty high.

How does one eccentric billionaire drive something that takes a whole crew to operate? Blows my mind...

You already paid for it so it's not your concern anymore. :(

ctiger2
11-07-2009, 07:02 PM
They gotta come up for air sometime.

Exactly. We'll eventually get them all.

JohnMeridith
11-07-2009, 07:18 PM
Does the IRS have a navy destroyer with depth-charges?
oh boy that is funny

Ninja Homer
11-07-2009, 07:26 PM
I gotta admit, that'd be a fun toy to have if I was a billionaire: http://66.83.181.250:8080/db/ussubs/live/submarines/phoenix.pdf

catdd
11-07-2009, 08:12 PM
I'd like to see Bernanke try to bribe a giant, submarine eating squid off with FRNs.

WClint
11-07-2009, 09:05 PM
Thats what I am talking about, target super luxury items for the ultra rich.

Cowlesy
11-07-2009, 09:07 PM
I'd like to see Bernanke try to bribe a giant, submarine eating squid off with FRNs.

http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/upload/2009/03/what_the_stomach_contents_of_sperm_whales_tell_us_ about_gian/Giant_squid.jpg

They are waiting in the deep, off the coast...patiently waiting for the time to strike and begin taking over.

YumYum
03-19-2011, 11:44 PM
bump...because this is the real deal

sevin
03-19-2011, 11:48 PM
they can run but they can't hide

nate895
03-19-2011, 11:50 PM
I always wanted my own submarine. Does anyone have $80,000,000 to spare? Maybe the Ron Paul billionaire does. I'll ask him.

Fox McCloud
03-19-2011, 11:57 PM
If he owns a nuclear sub (doubtful) then the constraint would be food, not air (doubt water too); converting CO2 and water into air is done on the ship (not sure if it converts salt water to fresh drinkable water too...I imagine it could if you wanted it too).

Now all they have to do is figure out how to grow food on in and it can be self sustaining (provided nothing major breaks down) =p

YumYum
03-20-2011, 12:01 AM
If he owns a nuclear sub (doubtful) then the constraint would be food, not air (doubt water too); converting CO2 and water into air is done on the ship (not sure if it converts salt water to fresh drinkable water too...I imagine it could if you wanted it too).

Now all they have to do is figure out how to grow food on in and it can be self sustaining (provided nothing major breaks down) =p

The guy who builds these subs designed nuclear subs for the Navy. My best friend is in the Navy and told me that the have subs that can now stay underwater indefinitely.

sl7yz0r
03-20-2011, 12:18 AM
What is the point of robbing the world of it's wealth if your just going to spend the rest of your life secluded and underwater when shit hits the fan?

YumYum
03-20-2011, 12:44 AM
What is the point of robbing the world of it's wealth if your just going to spend the rest of your life secluded and underwater when shit hits the fan?

If you were alive during the French Revolution would you stand in the town square cheering, possibly being grabbed and executed as an agent of the King (this literately happened), or would you want to be in hiding, where you are safe? They will not be underwater forever, only during the period that Muslims and Christians exterminate each other. That is what is happening now.

Anti Federalist
03-20-2011, 12:49 AM
Spending billions to engage one's whims and fancy, if they have the money, is "wretched excess".

Spending billions to build a weapons platform designed to incinerate half the planet is considered "normal", "reasonable" and doesn't even raise an eyebrow.

Ugh..

Mani
03-21-2011, 12:19 AM
This is the ultimate BUNKER. When the shit hits the fan, and the conspiracy theorists talk about needing a "bunker" This is one better. It's a moving submerged bunker that can stay down indefinitely (according the previous posts) until food rations run low (I'm sure they can stock up pretty well if they needed). It would take a lot more work to find this bunker vs the one is someone's basement. Let's face it, the resources needed to track one of these down is significant. How big are the oceans? How much of our planet is covered in water? Not a bad exit strategy.

And with all the privacy and no comments, it sounds like these guys prefer it that way.

The captains and crew are probably similar to those big yacht crews which are contracted to be "at sea" for X amount of years.

They could always send out a small crew to gather more rations as well...

I think it's pretty awesome actually. The tin foil hat guy in me would love one of these babies. I would expect the conspiracy theorists to appreciate a good bunker when they see one.

trey4sports
03-21-2011, 12:36 AM
I'd like to see Bernanke try to bribe a giant, submarine eating squid off with FRNs.

ahahaha +1

Petar
03-21-2011, 12:38 AM
It seems like stupid class warfare to just assume that billionaires in general are solely responsible for all that ills the world.

I mean what are we, a bunch of Bolsheviks?