Hannity was discussing keynesian vs austrian economics

[tangent4ronpaul]

and praising austrian economics

Did someone spike the punch bowl?

-t

[sofia]

Keynesian is how its spelled...

after the Fabian socialist homosexual John Maynard Keynes.

I'm surprised that Hannity mentioned the Austrian School. Neo-cons usually push the Chicago School...which supports Central Banking but is for a stronger dollar policy than Keynesian

[MRoCkEd]

That's interesting.
I doubt he would support it if he knew the implications (no funding war through the printing press)

[Matthew Zak]

That's interesting.
I doubt he would support it if he knew the implications (no funding war through the printing press)

Hannity is desperately trying to reinvent the republican party. He's using a slightly more libertarian tone than he used to, but he's calling it conservatism. He's not like glen beck. He won't go that far.

[Anti Federalist]

That's interesting.
I doubt he would support it if he knew the implications (no funding war through the printing press)

That^^^

WTF...first Beck and now Shamity...truly, the world has turned upside down.

[Endgame]

That^^^

WTF...first Beck and now Shamity...truly, the world has turned upside down.

... until they elect another Bush in 2012 with empty promises of small government.

[american.swan]

That^^^

WTF...first Beck and now Shamity...truly, the world has turned upside down.

The clear point of this farce is to go where the wind in blowing, yet at the last moment make sure the house isn't blown down.

[Matthew Zak]

That^^^

WTF...first Beck and now Shamity...truly, the world has turned upside down.

Hannity hasn't changed at all. He's doing what Obama did: Creating the illusion of change, by hoping frustrating republicans will feel reinvigorated calling themselves conservatives. He still says things like, "...and blow them to smithereens!"

[tangent4ronpaul]

He was talking about the stimulus and how creating artificial, non-sustainable jobs would do no good. That you needed to create the situations where jobs would be created that were long term.

Didn't get too deeply into it.

He's usually on re-run in the early hours if anyone is up and cares.

-t

[Matthew Zak]

Clearly Rupert Murdock is sending memos to his employees that state these directions: We are done with "Republican". It's time to be "Conservative".

[Epic]

this is why hayek is so useful

he has mainstream cred (nobel prize) with an Austrian tag...

[Joe3113]

Answer lies within;

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=177088

[sofia]

Hannity hasn't changed at all. He's doing what Obama did: Creating the illusion of change, by hoping frustrating republicans will feel reinvigorated calling themselves conservatives. He still says things like, "...and blow them to smithereens!"

The parallells between today and the phony anti-Clinton "Republican Revolution" of 1993 / 94 are striking.

We had some solid conservatives sweep into power in 1994....and Gingrich nuetered them and then sold them out.


Hannity, Rush etc. are setting us up again.

[1836er]

Given the depth the typical Hannity argument I'm somewhat skeptical of exactly how much he knows about - much less could articulate - the tenants of Austrian economics. That being said, I think we are sometimes too quick to paint all conservative Republicans who don't adhere strictly to our principles as neo-cons... and our subsequent failure to recognize that a large chunk of conservatives are actually much closer to our views on economic issues than we are often willing to give them credit for might sometimes cost us useful allies (to the extent these folks can serve as our allies).

I think one of the problems is, unfortunately, that most conservative Republicans (Hannity especially) seem to have little ability or desire to actually articulate why they believe what they believe, and ultimately where their beliefs would lead to if they actually adhered to them (sometimes out of sheer incompetence and other times out of fear of being labeled racists, uncaring, extremists, etc?)... and that's why it's so hard to listen to someone like Hannity without wanting to pull your hair out even on the occasions when you might agree with him.

[Anti Federalist]

... until they elect another Bush in 2012 with empty promises of small government.

Yup.

[Anti Federalist]

The clear point of this farce is to go where the wind in blowing, yet at the last moment make sure the house isn't blown down.

Yup.

[Anti Federalist]

Hannity hasn't changed at all. He's doing what Obama did: Creating the illusion of change, by hoping frustrating republicans will feel reinvigorated calling themselves conservatives. He still says things like, "...and blow them to smithereens!"

Yup.

:D

[Bruno]

He mentioned Keynes to a caller a few weeks ago, very proud of himself that he was calling all of them (Liberals) followers of Keynes. He failed to point out the decades of other presidents whose economic advisors were as well. On that call, he did not mention the Austrian school.

[itshappening]

Hannity and the rest of them (including Rush) play the good conservative in opposition but if they ever get power they will line up behind the sell out... i'm so cynical aren't I?

Rush absolutely kissed Bush's ass for years and would rant about those damn liberals while he was pushing all sorts of crap.

when the Republicans have control the push for war and more government power will be swept under the carpet once again or in the case of war actively supported

[specsaregood]

This is when you look at the positive and email Hannity and suggest to him that he have on his show: the undisputed expert in congress on Austrian economics: Dr. Paul.

[Jamsie 567]

Maybe getting hit with the snowball in 07 woke his A$$ up lol.

[sofia]

I think we are sometimes too quick to paint all conservative Republicans who don't adhere strictly to our principles as neo-cons... and our subsequent failure to recognize that a large chunk of conservatives are actually much closer to our views on economic issues than we are often willing to give them credit for might sometimes cost us useful allies (to the extent these folks can serve as our allies).

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Hannity is not a well meaning idiot. He is an enemy agent.

His absolute hatred for Ron Paul says it all.

Same for fatboy Rush and Glen Beck.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Hannity is not a well meaning idiot. He is an enemy agent.

His absolute hatred for Ron Paul says it all.

Same for fatboy Rush and Glen Beck.

Paul and Rand have both been treated fairly well by Beck lately.

-t

[Joe3113]

Paul and Rand have both been treated fairly well by Beck lately.

-t

Do you seriously have no idea why that is? C'mon now.. you're a Ron Paul supporter. Give it a think.


Answer lies within;

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=177088

[AdamT]

Hannity = desperately trying to re-gain credibility.

[american.swan]

Answer lies within;

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=177088

This is very true. Go with the wind, don't blow down the house.

[Brian4Liberty]

Didn't get too deeply into it.


I wonder why?


Given the depth the typical Hannity argument I'm somewhat skeptical of exactly how much he knows about - much less could articulate - the tenants of Austrian economics.

Bingo!


Hannity = desperately trying to re-gain credibility.

Without a doubt. Maybe he and Ghouliani put their brains together and came up with a plan...Rudy: "Say something about Austrian economics like that geek used to do. You'll sound smart".

[HOLLYWOOD]

Sean Hannity can pronounce Keynesian and Austrian, then yakk about them?

He must be using Dubya Bush's Teleprompters

Hannity will always be a coward and a shill

[TastyWheat]

I don't know what's up with that. I swear I heard him praising Keynesian economics just last week.

[Chieftain1776]

This isn't the first time Austrian economics has come up on Hannity (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=188583&highlight=dick+armey+austrian+chieftain1776). I think this might vindicate my theory that Hannity has picked up Thomas Wood's bestseller "Meltdown".

[tangent4ronpaul]

Do you seriously have no idea why that is? C'mon now.. you're a Ron Paul supporter. Give it a think.

Don't really care why - now WHAT it is is free face time on national TV in front of up to a 4 Million viewer audience that are potential supporters / voters for our side.

-t

[libertarian4321]

... until they elect another Bush in 2012 with empty promises of small government.

Republicans are ALWAYS small government fiscal conservatives when they aren't in power. It's easy to talk shit when you are powerless and not running the show.

Its only when they actually get power that the true stripes of the Republican Party show- and those stripes look a lot like those of the big government, free spending Democrats.

The Bush years were the perfect example of what the modern, out of control, Republican Party does when it has power- they were simply abyssmal- big government, pro-war, and anti freedom statists.

Having Hannity (a high school graduate) hold forth on economics is probably a lot like having a monkey perform brain surgery- they are equally qualified in those fields.

[Joe3113]

Don't really care why

Then history will repeat itself. [Make the same mistakes]

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

What people are missing is that Austrian Economics is actually getting talked about, although by unlikely candidates for it. So, even if only 30% of the people go out and read Austrian works....Mises, Hayek, Rothbard, Menger, Bohm-Bewark, go to Mises.org, Lewrockwell, Di'Lorenzo, Walter Block, Thomas Woods, etc. THAT IS GOOD, no matter what Hannity says because once these people start reading their works they will become libertarians. The one great thing about Austrian Economics is that it encompasses all philosophical, political, and economic prisms.

That's the positive. I'll take it.

[Matthew Zak]

What people are missing is that Austrian Economics is actually getting talked about, although by unlikely candidates for it. So, even if only 30% of the people go out and read Austrian works....Mises, Hayek, Rothbard, Menger, Bohm-Bewark, go to Mises.org, Lewrockwell, Di'Lorenzo, Walter Block, Thomas Woods, etc. THAT IS GOOD, no matter what Hannity says because once these people start reading their works they will become libertarians. The one great thing about Austrian Economics is that it encompasses all philosophical, political, and economic prisms.

That's the positive. I'll take it.

With this, I agree. But we need to be more friendly to republicans and conservatives. We need to seduce them to think libertarian, not remind them how stupid they are and how they're damaging the country. They'll realize what's going on when they walk through the door.