Video: Victicrat - Damn It Feels Good To Be A Victim

[angelatc]

YouTube - Victicrat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhPqmJynQPU)

[Dieseler]

Bump for awesome.

Wow, Zo's wisdom reminds me of someone here...
I wonder.

Edit: I watched a bit more of his stuff, he's cool but I retract my previous statement, he's not that good or fair.

[fisharmor]

Well, the problem with this is that as a hip-hop song, it's objectively sub-par.
So it ends up that both sides are right.


I like the fact that they got a white guy for a pimp, though.

[Dieseler]

This guy is great.
YouTube - Get Outta the way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT9xFuoPZOA&feature=channel)

[Dieseler]

YouTube - Toilet Tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvg48h3y-wg&feature=channel)

[Dieseler]

Mutually Assured Destruction Rocks. YouTube - Shoot Again! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzk3PUkboNU&feature=channel)

[Bucjason]

I've always liked Zo alot , it's so nice to see an African American who is actually a free-thinker and not a Democrat zombie.....but he is a bit of a Neocon , just to warn you guys before you get too excited.

That being said , my favorite video of his is where he fights Obama Matrix/StarWars stlye :

YouTube - THE VOTE REAPER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbW64215HA8)

[Dieseler]

I've always liked Zo alot , it's so nice to see an African American who is actually a free-thinker and not a Democrat zombie.....but he is a bit of a Neocon , just to warn you guys before you get too excited.

That being said , my favorite video of his is where he fights Obama Matrix/StarWars stlye :

YouTube - THE VOTE REAPER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbW64215HA8)

Yeah, that's why I threw that edit into my first post here. He does seem to tow the R party line but man this guy throws out some common sense. I think I have watched like ten of his videos now, hehe.

[dannno]

Most black people are victims. Some white people are victims, but more black people are victims. Not of the free market or capitalism, but of the Federal Reserve and a dishonest monetary system that hurts the poor the most. They started out poor because they were slaves and had nothing. We never gave them a chance to be free.

That doesn't mean we should setup a welfare state, that means we need to work on becoming free.

This guy knows what I'm talking about, and he is 1,000 times more talented than the hip hop artist in the OP.. and he his views have a lot more in common with the people on this forum (listen to the whole song, because I know a few of you will be turned off by the beginning of the song.. but if you listen to the rest and take into consideration this post, you'll begin to understand)


"We gonna organize a people's army, and we we gonna take control of our own lives."


YouTube - Dead Prez-We Want Freedom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-yjw7BuJA8)



Imagine havin no runnin water to drink
Chemicals contaminate the pipes leadin to your sink
Just think, if the grocery stores close they doors
And they saturate the streets with tanks and start martial law
Would you be ready for civil war
Could you take the life of somebody you know,
or have feelings for if necessary?
I got cousins in the military
But far as I'm concerned they died, when they registered


Yo, this world is oh so cold, I think about my ancestors
Being sold, and it make me wanna break the mold
Fuck the gold and the party, train yourself, clean your shottie
Tell me what you gon do to get free, we need more than MC's
We need Hueys, and revolutionaries
The niggas on the streets today, it's kinda scary
The smell around my way ain't roses or strawberries
In fact it's kinda poisonous, bringin out the boy in us
But I'ma stand up on my own, like a man do
Dominate the land and make wealth, like Fu-Manchu
Yes the peoples army stick togehther like glue
We represent the I-Ching, and to this we stand true
Military formation, anyone participation is welcome
Each one teach one, son help son
Just one gun is all it take to get it started
Livin in the wilderness of the west we cold hearted



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If you don't think it could happen think again my son
Be prepared for the worst that's yet to come
We want freedom, prophecies and ancient wisdom
Cataclsym, niggas be like fuck the system
I don't wanna be no movie star
I don't wanna drive no fancy car
I just wanna be free, to live my life, to live my own life


Yeah, I'm for peace
But I'll kill ya if ya fuck with my moms or my niece

[dannno]

I'm sorry but I find way more in common with the views expressed above than some corporate whore uncle tom who believes in the Federal Reserve system that leeches off poor people.

Stop supporting tyranny in your support of freedom.

[Dieseler]

You're right.
I didn't get past the I'm black cause I'm black gonna die black whitey gonna put a bullet in the back my head.
Thanks but no thanks.
When it comes down to dealing with attitudes like that, this whitey won't be discriminating against different sides of that head.
I'll consider it a point of survival if that takes power.

[dannno]

You're right.
I didn't get past the I'm black cause I'm black gonna die black whitey gonna put a bullet in the back my head.
Thanks but no thanks.
When it comes down to dealing with attitudes like that, this whitey won't be discriminating against different sides of that head.
I'll consider it a point of survival if that takes power.

Listen to it anyway, there's a strong point to be made that makes a lot more fucking sense than the BS posted in the OP.

If you can't recognize what black people have had to go through during and after slavery, and you can't recognize that they came into a rigged system with nothing, then you haven't learned anything from this movement.

[Dieseler]

Listen to it anyway, there's a strong point to be made that makes a lot more fucking sense than the BS posted in the OP.

Nope.

[dannno]

Nope.

Did you read the lyrics posted below the video?

You're just making yourself look like a moron to anybody who's actually paying attention.

[Dieseler]

Listen to it anyway, there's a strong point to be made that makes a lot more fucking sense than the BS posted in the OP.

If you can't recognize what black people have had to go through during and after slavery, and you can't recognize that they came into a rigged system with nothing, then you haven't learned anything from this movement.

Bullshit.
I've been poor all my life.
Give me a break with the poor victim so I'm a gangsta crap, rapper crap.

[dannno]

Here we have black people who actually recognize they are in a rigged system, just like we do, they recognize the right to individual liberty, and that it will benefit them in the end, like we do, and you ignore them, and instead worship some Federal Reserve backed corporate whore. That makes a lot of fucking sense.

[dannno]

Bullshit.
I've been poor all my life.
Give me a break with the poor victim so I'm a gangsta crap, rapper crap.

These guys go against everything establishment hip hop stands for.

PLEASE read the fucking lyrics.

[dannno]

I don't wanna be no movie star
I don't wanna drive no fancy car
I just wanna be free, to live my life, to live my own life


Yeah, I'm for peace
But I'll kill ya if ya fuck with my moms or my niece


Ya, those guys sound like real victims :rolleyes:


You're such an intelligent person, Dieseler.

[Dieseler]

Did you read the lyrics posted below the video?

You're just making yourself look like a moron to anybody who's actually paying attention.

Yup, and then I tried to listen to Yo Dog's music in the way that most anyone else would run into it...WITHOUT THE LYRICS...
And then what do I hear...lol, gimme a break.
Don't work for me man... I'm whitey.

[Dieseler]

Ya, those guys sound like real victims :rolleyes:


You're such an intelligent person, Dieseler.

Yeah, thanks.
I got one of these to.
:rolleyes:

[dannno]

Bullshit.
I've been poor all my life.
Give me a break with the poor victim so I'm a gangsta crap, rapper crap.

You obviously didn't even read my original post. I specifically said that some white people are victims too. I AGREE with you... But the fact is that more black people are victims, and if you think it is because black people are inherently different and not because they were put in a different predicament, then you haven't thought your position through very much.

[dannno]

Yup, and then I tried to listen to Yo Dog's music in the way that most anyone else would run into it...WITHOUT THE LYRICS...
And then what do I hear...lol, gimme a break.
Don't work for me man... I'm whitey.

No, you're not whitey, the people who run the system, the Federal Reserve, the banks, THEY are "whitey", but I call them the International Banking elite and I hate them just as much as Dead Prez. He can call them "whitey" if he fucking wants to, I don't give a crap, because his lyrics are fucking genius.

[Dieseler]

You obviously didn't even read my original post. I specifically said that some white people are victims too. I AGREE with you... But the fact is that more black people are victims, and if you think it is because black people are inherently different and not because they were put in a different predicament, then you haven't thought your position through very much.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
What is the population of Blacks in the U.S. Danno?
What percentage of the above are poverty level.
Now what is the poverty level of the rest of the U.S. Danno?
Who gets forgotten here Danno?
Do you see Whitey whining and making threats?

[Dieseler]

No, you're not whitey, the people who run the system, the Federal Reserve, the banks, THEY are "whitey", but I call them the International Banking elite and I hate them just as much as Dead Prez. He can call them "whitey" if he fucking wants to, I don't give a crap, because his lyrics are fucking genius.

Bullshit Danno.
I am White and I am proud to be White.
Your boys need to get their semantics right because all I see is some racist Black folk spoutin off some bullshit that we all have to deal with, not just them.
Black folks don't own poverty, they just get to use it better than everyone else does.

[SelfTaught]

If you can't recognize what black people have had to go through during and after slavery, and you can't recognize that they came into a rigged system with nothing, then you haven't learned anything from this movement.

BOO HOO!!!!

If you go back in history, you will find that pretty much everyone's (of every race) ancestors were either enslaved, pillaged, or horribly wronged in some way. I don't hear a whole lot of "damn, the system is rigged against me" from non-black people. I think black people take that shit to the next level. Actually, I'm giving them too much credit. They take it to the umteenth level. People get tired of hearing it man. And maybe that type of victimization ideology leads to even more cases of discrimination because people get pissed off from that guilt-trip BS.

Gimme a break.

[dannno]

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
What is the population of Blacks in the U.S. Danno?

I dunno, about 13% of the total population?




What percentage of the above are poverty level.


In 1999, according to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, 33.1 percent of black children lived in poverty compared with 13.5 percent of white children.




Now what is the poverty level of the rest of the U.S. Danno?

Probably 10-15%


Who gets forgotten here Danno?

Hispanics?


Do you see Whitey whining and making threats?

Yes, on this very board, we are threatening the establishment. That is what they are trying to do. We have the same god damn goals, but you can't recognize it because their culture is different than yours and you are really bad at understanding other people's lives and cultures within context.


Instead of demonizing inner-city minorities, you should help them to understand what freedom could do for them.. based on this thread it's like we just want them to whore themselves out to a bunch of corporations under a federal reserve system that rapes the lower class. Teach them the TRUTH.

[dannno]

BOO HOO!!!!

If you go back in history, you will find that pretty much everyone's (of every race) ancestors were either enslaved, pillaged, or horribly wronged in some way. I don't hear a whole lot of "damn, the system is rigged against me" from non-black people. I think black people take that shit to the next level. Actually, I'm giving them too much credit. They take it to the umteenth level. People get tired of hearing it man. And maybe that type of victimization ideology leads to even more cases of discrimination because people get pissed off from that guilt-trip BS.

Gimme a break.

Listen to Ron Paul once a while. He says that poor people are most hurt by our monetary and banking system. Black people started the most poor, so it is no surprise that they are still the most poor under a rigged system. They are the ones who take the brunt of our dishonest Federal Reserve system. I'm sorry you can't recognize reality.

If i were telling everybody that we need to give them a handout, I would understand your sentiment.. but I'm saying they need FREEDOM and they need it more than we do!! They are fucked way more than we are fucked. This is not a difficult concept to understand.

[Dieseler]

I dunno, about 13% of the total population?









Probably 10-15%



Hispanics?



Yes, on this very board, we are threatening the establishment. That is what they are trying to do. We have the same god damn goals, but you can't recognize it because their culture is different than yours and you are really bad at understanding other people's lives and cultures within context.

If you believe that you are absolutely insane.
I guarantee you there are more poor Whites in American than their are Blacks and Hispanics put together.
I know right now is a tough time to be saying this with the economy like it is but the difference between welfare, food stamps and section 8 housing is a fucking job.
If some people would spend a little more time working than they do hiding in the Pjs with their Momma they might actually escape that poverty they are bitching about.
Nah, ain't gonna do that though cause you might have to buy a car if you get and job and then thats gonna disqualify you for that free medical assistance. So what do they do instead of the right thing? They weigh the consequences and stay on that GTit.
I got more pride in my little toe than these type of people do.
Fuck them.
They deserve to wallow in their poverty because they make the choice to remain there.

Oh yeah, my pride does make all the difference by the way.
Might be all we have but we got that.

I'm gonna go ahead and let you have the LASTWORD with your post below mine here.
Cause your whining, apologetic, enabling argument is making my blood pressure rise and causing me a head ache.

[dannno]

If you believe that you are absolutely insane.
I guarantee you there are more poor Whites in American than their are Blacks and Hispanics put together.

Ya, because there are less of them.. they still have a higher percentage as a people, and it is because of the Federal Reserve along with the predicament they entered here upon. This thread is just calling out for them to whore themselves out to Fed sponsored Corporate America.




I know right now is a tough time to be saying this with the economy like it is but the difference between welfare, food stamps and section 8 housing is a fucking job.
If some people would spend a little more time working than they do hiding in the Pjs with their Momma they might actually escape that poverty.

Ya, we made working illegal because of minimum wage laws. They would have more jobs available if we didn't have minimum wage. Let's teach them that, let's teach them about freedom.. not about taking the smartest 5% of blacks and taking them out of the ghetto just so they can whore themselves out to corporate America leaving the rest to be poor..robbed by the 5% who left the ghetto.. they should be starting businesses and being productive within their town or wherever they want to!!

[Bucjason]

If i were telling everybody that we need to give them a handout, I would understand your sentiment.. but I'm saying they need FREEDOM and they need it more than we do!! They are fucked way more than we are fucked. This is not a difficult concept to understand.

As long as they keep voting 98% Democrat in every election , then they are getting what they deserve. You make your own bed , then sleep in it!

Don't cry victim to me when you are voting your slave masters all thier power.


Not to mention there are still thousands of examples of poor people who have picked themselves up by the bootstraps and bettered thier lives in this country, despite this percieved "rigging". So I don't buy this " we're stuck here and we're helpless" mentality. The fact is, the majority of them are content to stay where they are, and beg the government for more entitlements. Just because your ANCESTORS were mistreated doesn't entitle YOU to ANYTHING. .

[SelfTaught]

Listen to Ron Paul once a while. He says that poor people are most hurt by our monetary and banking system. Black people started the most poor, so it is no surprise that they are still the most poor under a rigged system. They are the ones who take the brunt of our dishonest Federal Reserve system. I'm sorry you can't recognize reality.

If i were telling everybody that we need to give them a handout, I would understand your sentiment.. but I'm saying they need FREEDOM and they need it more than we do!! They are fucked way more than we are fucked. This is not a difficult concept to understand.

Do you think that if we got rid of the Fed and the corrupt banking system, blacks would be more on par with whites or other races? I don't think so, history is riddled with inequalities that may or may not arise from a corrupt political system. Thomas Sowell wrote an article about how the ethnic Chinese emigrated to Indonesia and Malaysia and eventually owned most of the wealth and filled all the best schools, despite the fact that they were a small minority. Is that type of inequality to be discouraged or despised? In our system, the game is rigged against everybody. I would never make the case that black people need it more than whites.

Many of the problems in the black community result not from past or present game-rigging, but from the actions of blacks' themselves. 70% illegitimacy, black homicide where 94% of the time, the victim's killer was black, obesity and other health problems, a culture of violence and materialistic lifestyles. You can say that "Oh, we have a system that encourages that type of behavior." BS. You can follow me around with baconburgers and cheesecakes, it doesn't mean that I'll eat them, even if they are tasty. At the end of the day, it comes down to personal responsibility

[Dieseler]

It's simple as this, only a Socialist Idiotocracy will ever pull everyone DOWN to the level of the least inclined to work their way out of poverty and make everything fair enough for some.
I think I'll stick to what I know best and hope the Socialist don't find a way to make my formula fail.
The formula is for me, Hardwork + Live within my means = I and mine stay off the GTit = good enough for me.
If this formula stops working, I guess I will to.

[dannno]

The problem is that for people on both sides of the economic strata who recognize the unjust economic disparity in this country, socialism sounds like a good solution without any real examination of our current economic system and why it is occurring. It then turns out that welfare is both a less than adequate replacement for that which would naturally occur anyway in a free market, voluntarily, and on top of that it is also causes more poverty. People don't know that the outcome of socialism is poverty, but the promoters of liberty do.. and Dead Prez do.. We recognize freedom as the best way to achieve prosperity. I Ching.