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Revolution0918
10-26-2009, 03:23 PM
Dont know if any1 is watching his show today, but he literally just ripped my generation a new asshole, talking about how were generation "me" and how we were spoiled and how everythings r fault. Once again showing how big an idiot he is. I dunno what the demographics look like for this forum, but im pretty sure that the majority are in my generation (born in 86) and i could not be more dissapointed that r generation, who hasnt even had a chance to get but a foot into the work force, is being blamed for the problems that face this country.

Bruno
10-26-2009, 03:25 PM
is he making any logical connections at all as to how people under 20 happen to be at fault for where our country is today?

Chester Copperpot
10-26-2009, 03:25 PM
I graduated high school in 1986

sevin
10-26-2009, 03:27 PM
Agreed. It's not just this generation. It goes back to the baby boomers. I think they were the first spoiled generation in a while because those who grew up during the 30's were so determined to make sure their children had better lives.

But really, I think it's better to say: more people in that generation were spoiled. One can't blame an entire generation. There are hard-working freedom lovers of all ages.

Bruno
10-26-2009, 03:27 PM
I graduated high school in 1986

87 for me. :)

TXcarlosTX
10-26-2009, 03:29 PM
grad 01

Feenix566
10-26-2009, 03:29 PM
Ayn Rand would probably take pride in being called part of the "me" generation, if she could excuse the collectivist generalization. She would probably correct Beck and point out that every single human being in history has been self-interested.

FSP-Rebel
10-26-2009, 03:30 PM
87 for me. :)
'00 for me.:cool:

Bruno
10-26-2009, 03:31 PM
'00 for me.:cool:

careful, the years sneak past you quickly. Enjoy youth! :)

Dr.3D
10-26-2009, 03:32 PM
Actually, the children of today are spoiled rotten. This is the generation of me!
By the way... I graduated in 1967. Since then, it's been about what is in it for ME!

I will admit, I am spoiled to some extent... but now.... most of the younger generation has little to no respect for their parents or respect for any kind of authority figure.

phill4paul
10-26-2009, 03:33 PM
Well, in reality it would not be your generation that is failing America. That would fall on the generation that preceded it and did not properly prepare their youth for the good fight. ;)

Dieseler
10-26-2009, 03:33 PM
Dont know if any1 is watching his show today, but he literally just ripped my generation a new asshole, talking about how were generation "me" and how we were spoiled and how everythings r fault. Once again showing how big an idiot he is. I dunno what the demographics look like for this forum, but im pretty sure that the majority are in my generation (born in 86) and i could not be more dissapointed that r generation, who hasnt even had a chance to get but a foot into the work force, is being blamed for the problems that face this country.

If there is anything wrong with your generation, then it is my generation's fault.
My son was born in 88 and he is a blithering idiot of a really smart guy as was I at his age.
My Father is the biggest idiot of the three of us though, yeah, he's a baby boomer.

LBennett76
10-26-2009, 03:33 PM
I don't know. I seem to find the younger generation very "me" oriented and fairly ignorant on top of it. They also played a big role in Obama's campaign and victory.
That said, I don't think all are that way, such as yourself. And my generation, Generation X, isn't much better either. Most of my peers I know are super ultra liberal and think socialism is a fabulous idea. So... I don't know. But I really don't like the younger generation much. I feel like an old geezer with my "when I was your age" view of things and their feeling like they're owed something instead of earning it, hence their desire for more nanny state policies.

Feenix566
10-26-2009, 03:36 PM
Children don't spoil themselves.

olehounddog
10-26-2009, 03:37 PM
Graduated basic training on my 18th birthday May 18,1977.

Dr.3D
10-26-2009, 03:38 PM
If there is anything wrong with your generation, then it is my generation's fault.
My son was born in 88 and he is a blithering idiot of a really smart guy as was I at his age.
My Father is the biggest idiot of the three of us though, yeah, he's a baby boomer.

"When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21 , I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years." --Mark Twain

manny229
10-26-2009, 03:38 PM
87 for me. :)

'90 for me ...... BTW I blame your generation for the wedgies I endured in High School:mad:

Dr.3D
10-26-2009, 03:38 PM
Children don't spoil themselves.

No their friends help spoil them.

heavenlyboy34
10-26-2009, 03:39 PM
'00 for me.:cool:

Me 2! :cool:

Bruno
10-26-2009, 03:40 PM
'90 for me ...... BTW I blame your generation for the wedgies I endured in High School:mad:

We called them snuggies in my neck of the woods, and it seemed the practice had been going strong for quite some time.

Never did one on anyone besides my brothers.

0zzy
10-26-2009, 03:42 PM
08 grad< WOO :D ?

Cowlesy
10-26-2009, 03:43 PM
Americans in general are jedi masters of blaming every other person.

manny229
10-26-2009, 03:44 PM
And my generation, Generation X, isn't much better either. Most of my peers I know are super ultra liberal and think socialism is a fabulous idea. So... I don't know. But I really don't like the younger generation much. I feel like an old geezer with my "when I was your age" view of things and their feeling like they're owed something instead of earning it, hence their desire for more nanny state policies.

Janeane Garofalo Comes to mind when you mention Generation X :rolleyes:

RonPaulFanInGA
10-26-2009, 03:45 PM
If I was Glenn Beck, I'd refuse to have Ron or Rand Paul on ever again, talk up Palin all the time and cheerlead for the on-going wars and more new wars.

I mean, if the Paul types here are going to hate me no matter what; I might as well stop pandering to them.

Dr.3D
10-26-2009, 03:48 PM
If I was Glenn Beck, I'd refuse to have Ron or Rand Paul on ever again, talk up Palin all the time and cheerlead for the on-going wars and more new wars.

I mean, if the Paul types here are going to hate me no matter what; I might as well stop pandering to them.

Some people just love to hate.

Dieseler
10-26-2009, 03:55 PM
"When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21 , I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years." --Mark Twain

I don't think this applies to the Baby Boomers Doc. I thing old Sam would agree if he was here.

Revolution0918
10-26-2009, 03:58 PM
Cowlesy....that is 1 of the greatest quotes i have ever seen lol....Im writing him a paper now on how hypicritical he is and about how he is totally wrong.....

Revolution0918
10-26-2009, 03:59 PM
and resposnse to RonpaulfaninGa, when was the last time Glenn had Ron on his tv show...or rand......?

Dieseler
10-26-2009, 04:05 PM
I heard Glenn once again today say," There is no one on the Right for us to get behind as Conservatives."
Every time I hear him say that my mind goes back to the tipping point, hour long interview show that Glenn did with Dr. Paul.
What is Dr. Paul Glenn?
Who the heck do you really work for Glenn?

I'm not suggesting anyone here reading this is a Conservative.
I know some of you are though.

LibertyEagle
10-26-2009, 04:08 PM
Agreed. It's not just this generation. It goes back to the baby boomers. I think they were the first spoiled generation in a while because those who grew up during the 30's were so determined to make sure their children had better lives.

But really, I think it's better to say: more people in that generation were spoiled. One can't blame an entire generation. There are hard-working freedom lovers of all ages.

Guys, the problems with our country started way before the Baby Boomers too. No one generation is at fault. There were good and bad people in ALL of the generations.

It does no good to pit generations against each other. The bad guys just love to have us all infighting.

Brian4Liberty
10-26-2009, 04:08 PM
I seem to find the younger generation very "me" oriented and fairly ignorant on top of it.

It goes without saying that the more time you spend on this earth, the more experience and knowledge you get. Something that youth tends to ignore. ;)

You are always more knowledgeable and experienced than you were yesterday. Of course all people don't process and learn from that experience equally.

Gross generalizations never apply to all individuals.

Dr.3D
10-26-2009, 04:10 PM
I don't think this applies to the Baby Boomers Doc. I thing old Sam would agree if he was here.

Well, this is what I told my two sons. "Until you are at least half my age, please refrain from judging me for the decisions I am making and the ideologies I hold."

Now that both of them are more than half my age, they tell me they understand why I had said that, and agree with it. They also said they planned on telling any future children they may have the same thing.

Dieseler
10-26-2009, 04:16 PM
Well, this is what I told my two sons. "Until you are at least half my age, please refrain from judging me for the decisions I am making and the ideologies I hold."

Now that both of them are more than half my age, they tell me they understand why I had said that, and agree with it. They also said they planned on telling any future children they may have the same thing.

Well I guess that's pretty wise in the head in sand world we live in today but I would much prefer that the next generation have a little more wisdom induced via better education than what was offered up in my time and the old man's as well.
Being an idiot until you are 20 years old appears to be a recipe for failure in todays world and I think the Elite like it that way.

purplechoe
10-26-2009, 04:21 PM
Some people just love to hate.

no, some people just have a brain...

haaaylee
10-26-2009, 04:22 PM
In a way he is right that this is a generation of me. I remember marching during a Ron Paul rally and having some young girl yell "But i want free health care!" And someone else yelling back "You can't get everything you want. And not for free!" I see it all the time when i'm around my friends that i used to spend everyday with (i'm 24) and they are still doing the same things they did 4 years ago. Partying, drinking, have half-ass deli & cafe jobs & and most aren't in school. I think , however, it is mostly the fact that the youth are highly ignorant, largely lazy, and don't understand american history or economics as well as having little interest in politics. They just want something for free. Stimulus checks, healthcare, etc. But-- that really isn't their (our) fault.


To blame ignorance isn't fair.

zach
10-26-2009, 04:25 PM
Our generation isn't the cause of the 'me' problem.

Keep diving.

Dr.3D
10-26-2009, 04:26 PM
Well I guess that's pretty wise in the head in sand world we live in today but I would much prefer that the next generation have a little more wisdom induced via better education than what was offered up in my time and the old man's as well.
Being an idiot until you are 20 years old appears to be a recipe for failure in todays world and I think the Elite like it that way.

Now you have twisted what I said, backwards. I did not say anyone less than half my age is an idiot. What I did ask for and received was the respect my age and experience should have demanded.

What would your opinion be if someone who is less than half your age, criticized your decisions and ideologies? Would you tend to listen to them?

To avoid wasting time, it is more efficient to inform the child of how things are going to work, right from the start.

Dieseler
10-26-2009, 04:27 PM
Now you have twisted what I said, backwards. I did not say anyone less than half my age is an idiot. What I did ask for and received was the respect my age and experience should have demanded.

What would your opinion be if someone who is less than half your age, criticized your decisions and ideologies? Would you tend to listen to them?

To avoid wasting time, it is more efficient to inform the child of how things are going to work, right from the start.

I didn't mean it to sound that way Doc.
I'm sorry if I offended you.


What would your opinion be if someone who is less than half your age, criticized your decisions and ideologies? Would you tend to listen to them?

Happens all the time right here on RPFs Doc.
I have to admit I have learned a lot here.

Dr.3D
10-26-2009, 04:29 PM
I didn't mean it to sound that way Doc.
I'm sorry if I offended you.

No offense taken. :)

Dieseler
10-26-2009, 04:30 PM
No offense taken. :)

Thanks.
;)

familydog
10-26-2009, 04:30 PM
Dont know if any1 is watching his show today, but he literally just ripped my generation a new asshole, talking about how were generation "me" and how we were spoiled and how everythings r fault. Once again showing how big an idiot he is. I dunno what the demographics look like for this forum, but im pretty sure that the majority are in my generation (born in 86) and i could not be more dissapointed that r generation, who hasnt even had a chance to get but a foot into the work force, is being blamed for the problems that face this country.

What is wrong with being generation "me"?

MelissaWV
10-26-2009, 04:37 PM
Pretty much every generation looks down upon other generations, as a whole. Individuals don't think that way, but the trend is to blame others. Quite frankly, this generation isn't the one making the decisions, and it doesn't have a majority of votes on any issue. It isn't even the demographic with the largest spending power. It certainly isn't the generation that came up with brilliant ideas like the New Deal and the Federal Reserve. There's plenty of blame to go around, and narrowing it down by age to sneakily point fingers at everyone but oneself really doesn't help anyone arrive at solutions any fast.

Sandman33
10-26-2009, 04:47 PM
1. He's right about a generation that seems to care about nothing but it's self. A generation quite materialistic as well. But then again, it's what the TV tells them to be because thats what the corporatocracy wants us to be.

2. The real problem was with the generation that LET the fed get established without another revolution....and THEN let them make gold illegal and confiscate it.

Fr3shjive
10-26-2009, 05:44 PM
lol @ blaming anything on people born after 1980. We're barely old enough to get involved politically. Young people have been overwhelmingly involved in the Freedom movement and if anything they're doing more to affect change for the better than people before the 80's.

Nearly all the bad legislation has been passed by people from before the 80's. lol @ all these older people trying to point the finger at the younger generation when you've done all the damage.

getch36
10-26-2009, 05:54 PM
Sorry,but I have to agree with Beck on this one............

Fr3shjive
10-26-2009, 06:03 PM
Sorry,but I have to agree with Beck on this one............

How are any of the problems that we have now caused by people born after 1980?

Trust me, I know this generation is way too sheltered but to blame the country's problems on the younger generation is ridiculous.

zach
10-26-2009, 06:31 PM
It's like telling a spoiled child that it's their fault for acting like th.at

Somewhere down the line, it was taught to them.

LibForestPaul
10-26-2009, 06:52 PM
"But i want free health care!" And someone else yelling back "You can't get everything you want. And not for free!"

97% vs 3%

Cdn_for_liberty
10-26-2009, 07:05 PM
i was born in 83 and when I was in college, a lot of my peers were on the far left of the political spectrum and I didn't go that way because somethings just didn't make sense to me. Thanks to Ron Paul and the Libertarian movement, some of the things I doubted were indeed wrong.

Some people who are in college right now are drinking the liberal koolaid like my peers did. These people blame McDonald's for making them fat because McD's commercials are "forcing" them to buy the meals but totally ignoring that there are some people who watch these same videos and are not fat.

Also, these people think free markets and small government means anarchy and they bring up the strawman argument of private police and private military. Michael Moore tried to justify universal healthcare with this argument in Sicko.

lots of things to pick....oh yeah there's this YouTube - U / Chicago Libs Protest Brilliant Economist Milton Friedman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4_qc9iGOQ0)

lynnf
10-26-2009, 07:07 PM
How are any of the problems that we have now caused by people born after 1980?

Trust me, I know this generation is way too sheltered but to blame the country's problems on the younger generation is ridiculous.


that's right -- and how many of this generation are in Congress mucking things up?

lynn

kathy88
10-26-2009, 07:13 PM
87 for me. :)



84

micahnelson
10-26-2009, 07:21 PM
Baby boomers ruined the country. Film at 11.

akforme
10-26-2009, 07:24 PM
By far the baby boomers are the worst. My parents and my wife’s parents and all my buddies who see the truth, their parents are delusional. They have 60+ years of brainwashing and passing the buck onto there kids. The attitude of "what can I do about it" reigns supreme with that bunch, and they are the "me" generations parents, they raised this bullshit generation so they are still to blame for it.

Danke
10-26-2009, 07:26 PM
I think all you young punks are swell...well, maybe except for one of y'all.

Dieseler
10-26-2009, 07:29 PM
By far the baby boomers are the worst. My parents and my wife’s parents and all my buddies who see the truth, their parents are delusional. They have 60+ years of brainwashing and passing the buck onto there kids. The attitude of "what can I do about it" reigns supreme with that bunch, and they are the "me" generations parents, they raised this bullshit generation so they are still to blame for it.

Or that whiny "I'm too old to fight anymore" mentality.
Or the , "I'm a survivor" line with the clear indication that whatever comes down the line will be ok and they will just adjust to it.
That's the Baby Boomer I'm talking about.
I'm willing to die while they are willing to roll over and fix another drink.

JK/SEA
10-26-2009, 07:41 PM
I'm 58, should i take all this boomer bashing personnally?

(sitting here waiting for an answer as i clean my glock ...) ;>

klamath
10-26-2009, 07:46 PM
Americans in general are jedi masters of blaming every other person.

Yep.

Dieseler
10-26-2009, 08:02 PM
I'm 58, should i take all this boomer bashing personnally?

(sitting here waiting for an answer as i clean my glock ...) ;>

No Sir.

manny229
10-26-2009, 08:14 PM
I'm 58, should i take all this boomer bashing personnally?

(sitting here waiting for an answer as i clean my glock ...) ;>

freaking hilarious! No.....don't take it personally, we need more like you :D

Brian4Liberty
10-26-2009, 08:17 PM
Pretty much every generation looks down upon other generations, as a whole.

Actually, I believe the trend in the history of humans has been to not have the big generation gaps. Modern society and rapidly changing styles/technology have made our current situation somewhat different. There have been long stretches where nothing changed, and generations didn't have many differences, other than the standard parent/child relationship.

Dreamofunity
10-26-2009, 08:35 PM
My generation (born '88) is really fucked up. They didn't mess up the country in any way, but I know so many troubled people my age. Broken families, drugs, apathy, depression, etc. It's pretty bad.

WClint
10-26-2009, 08:57 PM
Dont know if any1 is watching his show today, but he literally just ripped my generation a new asshole, talking about how were generation "me" and how we were spoiled and how everythings r fault. Once again showing how big an idiot he is. I dunno what the demographics look like for this forum, but im pretty sure that the majority are in my generation (born in 86) and i could not be more dissapointed that r generation, who hasnt even had a chance to get but a foot into the work force, is being blamed for the problems that face this country.

I cant believe the boomer generation would blame us for anything. They are the ones created the hippy and marxists movements. They are the ones who didnt produce offspring to keep the west functional. They are literally the generation that killed the west.

Dianne
10-26-2009, 08:59 PM
that's so hard to believe... every time I watch his show he is ripping Olama a new one.

RevolutionSD
10-26-2009, 09:10 PM
Dont know if any1 is watching his show today, but he literally just ripped my generation a new asshole, talking about how were generation "me" and how we were spoiled and how everythings r fault. Once again showing how big an idiot he is. I dunno what the demographics look like for this forum, but im pretty sure that the majority are in my generation (born in 86) and i could not be more dissapointed that r generation, who hasnt even had a chance to get but a foot into the work force, is being blamed for the problems that face this country.

HIS anti-internet anti-freedom pro-fascist generation is the problem, not the current generation who are embracing freedom!

Of course all of this is collectivizing, but nonetheless Glenn Beck isn't worthy of listening to.

sofia
10-26-2009, 09:23 PM
My generation (born '88) is really fucked up. They didn't mess up the country in any way, but I know so many troubled people my age. Broken families, drugs, apathy, depression, etc. It's pretty bad.

Our generation (I'm 44) fucked you guys up.

We dumped you kiddies into cold, soulless day care centers so that we could have a bigger home and more cars for ourselves.

We abandoned our mariage vows because marriage takes work sometimes. As a result, millions of your generation have had to live with the pain and emptiness of broken homes.

We left you with ton of debt, addicted to ADD meds, and with no knowledge of this nation's glorious past.

Dieseler
10-26-2009, 09:30 PM
Our generation (I'm 44) fucked you guys up.

We dumped you kiddies into cold, soulless day care centers so that we could have a bigger home and more cars for ourselves.

We abandoned our mariage vows because marriage takes work sometimes. As a result, millions of your generation have had to live with the pain and emptiness of broken homes.

We left you with ton of debt, addicted to ADD meds, and with no knowledge of this nation's glorious past.

We dumped ours in daycare so we could both go to work in order to feed and clothe them without going on welfare and food stamps.
In contrast, my Dad was able to work a single job and get all the bills paid with twice as many + one more kid while Mom stayed at home and they avoided welfare and food stamps as well.
His collar was no bluer than mine.
Dad's gen, one job got it done.
My generation, we both had to work.
My Son and Daughters generation... Remains to be seen. They may have to go into Mormonology or something for extra spouses to pay the bills.

KAYA
10-26-2009, 09:53 PM
Ayn Rand would probably take pride in being called part of the "me" generation, if she could excuse the collectivist generalization. She would probably correct Beck and point out that every single human being in history has been self-interested.

No "me" as in I'm entitled to get free healthcare and get handed a coush job because I'm daddy's little girl not "me" as in the sovereign individual Ayn Rand sense.

Brian4Liberty
10-26-2009, 10:15 PM
We dumped ours in daycare so we could both go to work in order to feed and clothe them without going on welfare and food stamps.
In contrast, my Dad was able to work a single job and get all the bills paid with twice as many + one more kid while Mom stayed at home and they avoided welfare and food stamps as well.
His collar was no bluer than mine.
Dad's gen, one job got it done.
My generation, we both had to work.
My Son and Daughters generation... Remains to be seen. They may have to go into Mormonology or something for extra spouses to pay the bills.

Let's see...we doubled the workforce, and the pay dropped by half. I wonder if there is any correlation in those numbers?

Bucjason
10-27-2009, 06:06 AM
Generation "me" ?? I call you guys generation "wii" ....all you do is sit on your fat asses and play video games.

But I don't think this is your fault , this is the fault of the Baby Boomers . They are all grown up now , thier minds fried from drugs , and giving one last push for thier dream of a marxist utopia. Thier sense of entitlement knows no bounds. If the constitution can survive until these bastards die off, it might just be ok again...

Long live my Generation X :D

BillyDkid
10-27-2009, 06:37 AM
I heard Glenn once again today say," There is no one on the Right for us to get behind as Conservatives."
Every time I hear him say that my mind goes back to the tipping point, hour long interview show that Glenn did with Dr. Paul.
What is Dr. Paul Glenn?
Who the heck do you really work for Glenn?

I'm not suggesting anyone here reading this is a Conservative.
I know some of you are though.

Well, yeah, on Morning Joe today they were talking about this conservative resurgeance and how they just need to find someone to get behind. The problem is, by "conservative" they don't really mean conservative. They mean social authoritarian war mongers. Both things that Dr. Paul is not. Now, conservative can mean at least two things. It can mean conserving the American values of personal liberty, self reliance, peaceful co-existence and the rule of law visa vi the Constitution like Dr. Paul or it can mean religious right type of conservatism which advocates dictating morality to others and spreading America's wonderfulness throughout the world at the point of a gun because, after all, God is on our side.

Lew Rockwell wrote a good piece long ago entitled "Why I am not a conservative." He referenced the second type of conservative above which is what "conservative" has come to mean. Let's be honest, what passes for conservative today has nothing to do with liberty and is anti-liberty. Dr. Paul calls himself a conservative (which I think should be a personal attribute and not a political one, same with "liberal") but he also calls himself a libertarian - which is really the political view that the overriding purpose of government is to protect personal liberty, that personal liberty is what matters above all else. Typical "conservatives" believe no such thing.

Glen Beck believes no such thing. When "conservatives" talk about law and order, they typically mean "getting tougher" in the war on drugs and encoding their personal moral views into law and forcing others to live by them. This is anathema to Dr. Paul. He is personally a very moral and conservative person, but he believes it is up to each individual to determine their own morality. I have to add that what passes for "liberal" today is just as authoritarian as right wing "conservatives". Both the left and the right have co-opted these term to the point they are now useless.

Beside, being liberal or conservative should be personal attributes by which you live your own lives and not views that you try to impose on others. It comes down to two things - you either really believe in liberty or you don't. You either view the collective as real and the individual as the abstraction or the other way around. Clearly, it is the collective that is the abstraction and the individual who is palpably, genuinely real.

constituent
10-27-2009, 07:19 AM
Beside, being liberal or conservative should be personal attributes by which you live your own lives and not views that you try to impose on others. It comes down to two things - you either really believe in liberty or you don't. You either view the collective as real and the individual as the abstraction or the other way around. Clearly, it is the collective that is the abstraction and the individual who is palpably, genuinely real.

well said.

Pennsylvania
10-27-2009, 07:26 AM
Ahh, I knew we were about due for some Glenn Beck threads. Let the good times roll!

erowe1
10-27-2009, 07:33 AM
Dont know if any1 is watching his show today, but he literally just ripped my generation a new asshole, talking about how were generation "me" and how we were spoiled and how everythings r fault. Once again showing how big an idiot he is. I dunno what the demographics look like for this forum, but im pretty sure that the majority are in my generation (born in 86) and i could not be more dissapointed that r generation, who hasnt even had a chance to get but a foot into the work force, is being blamed for the problems that face this country.

That you think you can spell "our" as "r" and "anyone" as "any1" is all the evidence I need to conclude that Beck just might be onto something.

KAYA
10-27-2009, 07:41 AM
That you think you can spell "our" as "r" and "anyone" as "any1" is all the evidence I need to conclude that Beck just might be onto something.

:D

Dforkus
10-27-2009, 07:50 AM
Actually, the children of today are spoiled rotten. This is the generation of me!
By the way... I graduated in 1967. Since then, it's been about what is in it for ME!

I will admit, I am spoiled to some extent... but now.... most of the younger generation has little to no respect for their parents or respect for any kind of authority figure. Bitter old folks complaining about the younger generation...

This meme has been around since the beginning of time...

mid thirties here...

Pericles
10-27-2009, 07:50 AM
That you think you can spell "our" as "r" and "anyone" as "any1" is all the evidence I need to conclude that Beck just might be onto something.

+1 I can see the value of Fukwit in composing a message with limited text length, but to use it in what may be considered actual conversation in written form, at best gives the impression of laziness, and at worst, someone who is lacking in education. In either case, it makes the poster seem less credible to be in terms of someone who should be taken seriously.

constituent
10-27-2009, 07:52 AM
Ahh, I knew we were about due for some Glenn Beck threads. Let the good times roll!

lol, my thoughts exactly. I was going to flag it as spam, but I guess that for whatever reason Glenn Beck threads are no longer considered... well, the spam that they are. For awhile they were all being moved to off-topic. A much better arrangement, imo.

Stary Hickory
10-27-2009, 08:00 AM
I suppose the newer and newer generations have been drifitng away from the founding principes, but it's not productive to malign an entire generation. After all we are all individuals, if stated properly you can say generation X was worse than generation Y, however you must always remember to state that people are individuals and that this in no way can represent everyone.

I have noticed it too, there has been a systematic effort to dumb down America, and year after year people become more ignorant to what is happening around them, more dependent on government(it's almost a religion), and totally oblivious to why morality is important to a civilization.

It's safe to say unless we can change things and get the information out there that every generation will become more and more retarded until we reach a critical point. Then a painful lesson in rediscovery will take place.

Pericles
10-27-2009, 08:01 AM
Let's see...we doubled the workforce, and the pay dropped by half. I wonder if there is any correlation in those numbers?

In addition to the "giant sucking sound" of what used to be jobs in this country that left under the pretext of "free trade".

The irony on this board is that is seems that many of the get rid of the state adherents, would also like to have unlimited immigration and no barriers of any sort to the importation of anything. Show me a country with a high standard of living for its citizens that either has trade and immigration restrictions (Switzerland, Monaco, etc.) or tremendous natural resources and small numbers of citizens (Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc.).

Revolution0918
10-27-2009, 08:57 AM
Erowe1, I do believe it was Orwell who said that people are butchering the english language while they dress up their speech with unneccessary words, all the while loosing the message, clearly i am not typing a formal paper, the message however still stands

manny229
10-27-2009, 09:48 AM
That you think you can spell "our" as "r" and "anyone" as "any1" is all the evidence I need to conclude that Beck just might be onto something.

+1 Gen X here and my generation has a lot to account for, Janeane Garofalo being one of them.
But I remember driving to high school in 1990 in a beat up '80 Datsun. Two weeks ago I went to my high schol to pay the school tax and the parking lot looked like a new car dealership. My neighbor bought his son a new car just for passing his driver test!

ForLiberty-RonPaul
10-27-2009, 10:26 AM
+1 Gen X here and my generation has a lot to account for, Janeane Garofalo being one of them.
But I remember driving to high school in 1990 in a beat up '80 Datsun. Two weeks ago I went to my high schol to pay the school tax and the parking lot looked like a new car dealership. My neighbor bought his son a new car just for passing his driver test!

i graduated in '00. New cars everywhere in the lot. It seemed like every other day there was a fender bender. The only thing worse than rich kids is upper middle class kid acting like their rich. I didn't get a car until my 2nd year at college. And it was a '90 civic hatchback.

it was tan and looked like a friggin' roller skate.

eOs
10-27-2009, 10:53 AM
Glenn Beck says some dumb shit, then he says some good shit. Then he says some dumb shit again. Then he says some good shit. Then there's the dumb shit again. The end.

Brian4Liberty
10-27-2009, 11:01 AM
Two weeks ago I went to my high schol to pay the school tax and the parking lot looked like a new car dealership. My neighbor bought his son a new car just for passing his driver test!

You hit that on the head! I always wonder how these kids will support themselves in the future...if the parents run out of money.

MelissaWV
10-27-2009, 05:05 PM
Erowe1, I do believe it was Orwell who said that people are butchering the english language while they dress up their speech with unneccessary words, all the while loosing the message, clearly i am not typing a formal paper, the message however still stands

Yeah... who the hell needs communication on a message board? This place isn't about communication! It's about random trainwrecks made out of letters! Like alphabet soup!

aq23o489qhnfoivnsaeor8guhq34 to you, too.

amonasro
10-27-2009, 05:14 PM
Glenn Beck says some dumb shit, then he says some good shit. Then he says some dumb shit again. Then he says some good shit. Then there's the dumb shit again. The end.

This. And you have to wonder if he really cares about the shit he says. FOX gave him the show, they seem to be controlling all of this flying shit so it falls just short of its assumed goal.

Sandman33
10-27-2009, 06:21 PM
Our generation (I'm 44) fucked you guys up.

We dumped you kiddies into cold, soulless day care centers so that we could have a bigger home and more cars for ourselves.

We abandoned our mariage vows because marriage takes work sometimes. As a result, millions of your generation have had to live with the pain and emptiness of broken homes.

We left you with ton of debt, addicted to ADD meds, and with no knowledge of this nation's glorious past.

God damn I think I love you.;)

Promontorium
10-28-2009, 02:04 AM
I do agree, I too wish that magically an entire generation is "me" oriented. That would be wonderful.

A whole generation, defying reason, perhaps just a circumstance of chance deciding all at once:

I will get what I want in life.
I will do what it takes.
I am the most important person.

Get out of my way! I don't need your red tape! I'm getting it done! It's all about me!


That would be religious. A flood of reasoning self-centered people, unwilling to compromise, just knocking the social society pushers out of existence. Destroying all precepts, and establishing a world of individuality, self determinism.


But I'm guessing that's not what Beck meant. Because people talk in opposites in this flip-turned-upside-down world.

"Me", means "we". "Selfish" means "Altruistic". Right is wrong. Weak is strong. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

jbrace
10-28-2009, 02:12 AM
I don't believe it's just one generations past, it started way before ours. It’s due to our infatuation with all things materialistic and our views that promote self interest at the expense of others. People especially these days seem to be worried about "making money". They don't understand money does not equal true wealth. Our generation also doesn't understand that hard work is the main factor needed gaining true success. And that's anything whether it be marriage, relationships with your kids, success in business; it all requires HARD WORK. A majority of people don't realize the effort needed in reaching true success. We've been conditioned to expect things to be handed to us for nothing. We find it easy to get divorces and have our kids grow up in broken homes. Watching T.V. instead of reading to our kids, or helping them with their homework. Or my other favorite, placing your kids in front of the t.v. instead of not playing with them, or talking to them. Not only are they not getting the affection from the parent's they are being filled with the mind numbing rhetoric it provides them with! Do we seriously wonder whats wrong with our nation? This notion that we can produce good results without putting towards the effort and this wont produce any losers in life? This is a very toxic mentality to have. It became apparent when I heard a friend say his niece got a trophy for coming in 8th place on her softball team and he was surprised/happy when she said " We didn't deserve this, the other teams played harder and beat us". This was a simple concept to understand; the teams that generally put in the harder work and practice typically win. We don’t take this attitude towards government, instead we feel that everyone wins and we should award those who don’t put in the hard work! Another thing, it always killed me when everyone was required equal playing time in sports. Those who played know what I'm talking about. It always pissed me off to see us lose a game because kids that didn't have a drive or passion to play were allowed, "because everyone deserves a equal chance". The ones that deserve an equal chance are the ones that are putting the effort day in and day out; busting their asses to see results. What's the point in even busting my ass when the kids that don't try, get the same amount of time as the others that do practice? What's the point in practicing when your system is designed to lose? Should we punish the top performers because the ones under them are envious because they're not as good? Of course not, there is no logic in this. Why do you think high-school teams, college teams, NBA teams get so much better at every level? For one they have to earn their spot on the team and more importantly there is an incentive for them to do so! They will get the playing time and also the potential to make lots of money; the ones that are the top performers have put in the work and will reep the benefits! Why doesn't government follow this simple logic? Instead we should award the losers , whether it be TARP funds, subsidizing farmers, raising minimum wage, and countless funds to welfare programs.. etc. If people truly had a basic Austrian economic principles, understand what you perceive good for the economy now truly isn’t. If we understood that the policies were enacting today are actually going to have a disastrous effect on generations to come; if not our generation itself, I don’t believe we the people would allow such policies to be enacted. The effects of our policies are becoming evident today- with the national debt toppling 11.9 trillion dollars. (annual interest alone is around 383 billion). We even make the problem grow worse by thinking the government can fix these problems by borrowing a billion here, spending a trillion there. For one, there is no possible way you can spend your way out of such massive debt!(Especially by not investing in wealth generating expenditures) Second, does it make sense to allow government bureaucrats to fix the problems they caused? This mentality that we need more government spending, more government intervention in the market place isn’t going to do anything, but make problems worse. Many of the problems today are due to regulation placed on business, special legislation that allows business to become so dominant, when other in a true free market system they would have been abolished and a more efficient business would take its place. Take for instance the health care industry, one of the reason it has such high cost is because of governments interference between patient to doctor relationship. The current system of third-party payers takes decision-making away from doctors, leaving patients feeling rushed and worsening the quality of care. Yet health insurance premiums and drug costs keep rising. Clearly a new approach is needed. Congress needs to craft innovative legislation that makes health care more affordable without raising taxes or increasing the deficit. It also needs to repeal bad laws that keep health care costs higher than necessary. This push toward universal healthcare is going to make the healthcare industry even more inefficient! Which leads to another point, a majority of doctor visits are related to lack of exercise and poor eating habits; why should I foot the bill for these individuals decisions? As the Austrian economist Thomas Lirenzo puts it,
“The government's initial step in attempting to create a government-run healthcare monopoly has been to propose a law that would eventually drive the private health insurance industry out of existence. Additional taxes and mandated costs are to be imposed on health insurance companies, while a government-run "health insurance" bureaucracy will be created, ostensibly to "compete" with the private companies. The hoped-for end result is one big government monopoly which, like all government monopolies, will operate with all the efficiency of the post office and all the charm and compassion of the IRS. Of course, it would be difficult to compete with a rival who has all of his capital and operating costs paid out of tax dollars. Whenever government "competes" with the private sector, it makes sure that the competition is grossly unfair, piling costly regulation after regulation, and tax after tax on the private companies while exempting itself from all of them. This is why the "government-sponsored enterprises" Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were so profitable for so many years. It is also why so many abysmally performing "public" schools remain in existence for decades despite their utter failure at educating children.
” So let me get this straight, socialist believe a government monopoly is better than a private sector monopoly. 1 wrong + 1 wrong= right?