tajitj
10-25-2009, 01:25 PM
Guys like Doug Hoffman, Mike Williams, Marco Rubio, the posterboys for these kind of new found"conservatives" that until very recently went right along with HUGE government, wars, assaults on personal liberty, all the things that makes us hold our nose and be Republicans.
Also let me say state and local races it has less influence on my opinion because they will not be voting in the Congress and able to give the President a blank check for war.
From what I see, if these guys would at least come out and say the Iraq war went badly and would have to seriously rethink a war like that again, I might support them. BUT they completely support it and think we need more, probably would see them support 100% an invasion of Iran, and keep defending the Patriot Act. Does anyone think the Iraq war went ok and that we should somehow be proud of what happend and be cheering the way it is finally ending?
Does anyone feel like they want to rethink the whole party thing, watching the GOP rally around abortion, gay marriage and middle east war loving "conservatives" is driving me wild. We apparently were played like a fiddle, somehow we were convinced to stay in the party, then suddenly the right wing MSM types are talking about being non partisan and influencial leaders are jumping the party for Hoffman.
I will play the old game of asking would you rather have a moderate big govt Democrat win, because you helped campaign against these guys in favor of Libertarian or Constitution candidate who believes in a noninterventionist foreign policy and are against the police state.
Personally, I would vote for the third party, if none on ballot, then I would vote for these guys over the Dem. Unless the Dem was a Kucinich or Grayson type. But it becoming a lose, lose situation for me.
Also let me say state and local races it has less influence on my opinion because they will not be voting in the Congress and able to give the President a blank check for war.
From what I see, if these guys would at least come out and say the Iraq war went badly and would have to seriously rethink a war like that again, I might support them. BUT they completely support it and think we need more, probably would see them support 100% an invasion of Iran, and keep defending the Patriot Act. Does anyone think the Iraq war went ok and that we should somehow be proud of what happend and be cheering the way it is finally ending?
Does anyone feel like they want to rethink the whole party thing, watching the GOP rally around abortion, gay marriage and middle east war loving "conservatives" is driving me wild. We apparently were played like a fiddle, somehow we were convinced to stay in the party, then suddenly the right wing MSM types are talking about being non partisan and influencial leaders are jumping the party for Hoffman.
I will play the old game of asking would you rather have a moderate big govt Democrat win, because you helped campaign against these guys in favor of Libertarian or Constitution candidate who believes in a noninterventionist foreign policy and are against the police state.
Personally, I would vote for the third party, if none on ballot, then I would vote for these guys over the Dem. Unless the Dem was a Kucinich or Grayson type. But it becoming a lose, lose situation for me.