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Welles
10-24-2009, 12:40 PM
A Ron Paul insider who gained access to a fundraiser meeting with Brain Baird has just passed on some shocking information. Brian Baird has made comments behind closed doors suggesting that David Hedrick cannot beat him in 2010 because he shares too many of the views of Ron Paul. Baird went on to claim that Hedrick will not be able to raise sufficient funds to compete and will go the same way the last “fringe radical Constitutionalist” to challenge him. This is the same Brian Baird who called town hall protesters brown shirts and claimed they were terrorists making reference to Timothy McVeigh. There is reason to believe he was referring to Hedrick when he said this. Apparently Baird said, “Paul’s supporters talk a good game, but in the end they can’t get the job done, as we saw in 2008”. Baird also claimed that Hedrick could have had a fighting chance since he was embraced by the mainstream conservative establishment, but his choice to take controversial stands on the war and the Federal Reserve, will alienate him from the mainstream conservatives and prevent him from raising the funds to be competitive. Baird referred to the last time he was challenge by a Ron Paul type candidate calling the amount of money he was able to raise, “laughable”.

This type of thing makes me furious! Baird can easily raise a million and started this election cycle with over $600,000. What can we do? I am proud that David Hedrick took this stand instead of the easy route with the mainstream conservatives, but how can he win facing this kind of money. This makes me sick.
Here is Hedrick's website if anyone wants to check it out. www.davidhedrick4congress.com

Anyone have an idea on how to make Baird see that our Constitution is not irrelevant!

Ethek
10-24-2009, 12:53 PM
www.thirty-thousand.org

The peoples house.

Welles
10-24-2009, 03:19 PM
People on the Daily Paul are talking about getting behind David Hedrick to send Mr. Baird a strong message. David is part of the thisnovember5th event. There is talk about trying to get a $100,000 money bomb behind him. When he passes $100,000 for the day, we can all take screen shots of his money bomb page and mail them to Mr. Baird. Let’s show this guy what Constitutional Patriots can do!

Cowlesy
10-24-2009, 03:40 PM
Baird also claimed that Hedrick could have had a fighting chance since he was embraced by the mainstream conservative establishment, but his choice to take controversial stands on the war and the Federal Reserve, will alienate him from the mainstream conservatives and prevent him from raising the funds to be competitive.

That was code for "stands against the Neocons and the Bankers".

I wish Mr. Hedrick the best of luck!

Welles
10-24-2009, 09:29 PM
And because of that stand, Hedrick both needs and deserves our help.

Welles
10-25-2009, 09:45 AM
Bump for Freedom!

dr. hfn
10-25-2009, 01:29 PM
bump! If we only cause pain during the legislative season, we will be shooting blanks!

fj45lvr
10-25-2009, 05:36 PM
Anyone have an idea on how to make Baird see that our Constitution is not irrelevant!

Hard to say since the Constitution in reality has been irrelevant for decades and decades already. Sad truth. You'd have to do as the Federalist Papers extol: "rush tumultuously to arms" but that isn't likely to happen anytime soon until after the collapse.

Icymudpuppy
10-25-2009, 06:34 PM
Sadly, Baird is right. I live in his district. The republicans here are overwhelmingly Neocons. Particularly the rural areas. The democrats are overwhelmingly socialists and outnumber the neocons 2:1.

So, a republican is not going to win anyway.

Luckily, here in Washington state, we have top two system. The general election candidates will be the two with the most votes, and second to most votes in the primary even if they are from the same party.

For a freedom candidate to win, his best bet would be to run as a democrat and win second place overall in the primary, and force a democrat vs democrat general election in which the Neocons would support the more conservative of the two.

Unfortunately, getting any democrat party support would be difficult since their policy is to not run anyone against a party incumbent.

Chieftain1776
10-25-2009, 06:48 PM
Sadly, Baird is right. I live in his district. The republicans here are overwhelmingly Neocons. Particularly the rural areas. The democrats are overwhelmingly socialists and outnumber the neocons 2:1.

So, a republican is not going to win anyway.

Luckily, here in Washington state, we have top two system. The general election candidates will be the two with the most votes, and second to most votes in the primary even if they are from the same party.

For a freedom candidate to win, his best bet would be to run as a democrat and win second place overall in the primary, and force a democrat vs democrat general election in which the Neocons would support the more conservative of the two.

Unfortunately, getting any democrat party support would be difficult since their policy is to not run anyone against a party incumbent.

The professionally touted Cook PVI says it's "Even" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington%27s_3rd_congressional_district) which is really, really rare.

Icymudpuppy
10-25-2009, 07:08 PM
The professionally touted Cook PVI says it's "Even" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington%27s_3rd_congressional_district) which is really, really rare.

It used to be even.

10 years ago.

The demographic has shifted considerably.

Vancouver and Olympia urban centers have both almost doubled in population almost entirely with displaced ultra-environmentalist leftys from Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco.

Here was the primary and general election results from 2008.

PRIMARY
Socialist war monger Brian Baird (D) 51.4%,
Anti-war Environmentalist single issue liberal Cheryl A. Crist (D) 13.2%,
Liberty candidate Michael Delavar (R) 19.1%,
Ultra NEOCON Christine Webb (R) 16.3%,

GENERAL
Baird 64%
Delavar 36%

Imperial
03-16-2010, 06:42 PM
Update on this race.

Baird isn't running again. The seat is an open-seat and really up for grabs.

Meanwhile, there is a civil war in the hotly contested Republican primary. We have the Ron Paul supporter and tea partier previously mentioned named David Hedrick, a financial advisor just backed by Freedomworks and a smattering of Washington Republicans (and Tom Campbell interestingly) named David Castillo, and the establishment candidate state rep Jaime Herrera.

I wouldnt give Hedrick a huge shot anymore, but who knows with a 3 way primary and a runoff?

VegasPatriot
03-16-2010, 07:01 PM
David Hedrick
YouTube - Town Hall Meeting with U.S. Congressman Brian Baird (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rRE5UK6NQU)

RM918
03-16-2010, 09:40 PM
It always irritates me when I see someone arguing against Paul or politicians in a similar vein as him by saying, 'Well, he LOST in 08! That proves he's a LOSER. Do you want to vote for a LOSER?'. The sentiment is so juvenile and lacking of any thought as to defy reason, considering most people didn't even know who the hell Paul was let alone had an accurate knowledge of his beliefs.