PALIN Endorses Third Party Candidate

[tonesforjonesbones]

Palin has endorsed a third party candidate. This is good. tones

Palin endorses third-party candidate

The Associated Press

Published: October 23rd, 2009 10:17 PM
Last Modified: October 23rd, 2009 10:17 PM

ALBANY, N.Y. -- Less than a year removed from serving as the Republican vice presidential candidate, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has endorsed a third-party candidate for an upstate New York House seat. Palin backed Conservative party nominee Doug Hoffman on Thursday over Republican Assemblywoman Dierdre Scozzafava in the state's 23rd District.

Palin has written on her Facebook page that Hoffman stands for the principles that all Republicans should share: smaller government, lower taxes and a commitment to individual liberty. Scozzafava spokesman Matt Burns says no endorsement will change the fact that a vote for Doug Hoffman is a vote for Nancy Pelosi's big government agenda. Democrat Bill Owens is also running for the seat. Republican Rep. John McHugh vacated the office last month to become secretary of the Army.

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[sofia]

this one is a no-brainer, even for an idiot like Palin.

The Repub here is affiliated with ACORN....and Fox / talk radio have alreadt gotten behind the 3rd party guy before the dipshit from Alaska put in her two cents.


Let's see an endorsement of Rand over ex-Democrat, Harvard boy Grayson. Then I'll be impressed.


But that aint gonna happen!!!.

[tonesforjonesbones]

well who knows...has Rand Paul approached Palin? If you keep insulting her, I'm sure it will turn her off from endorsing our candidates..and Palin carries a LOT of weight whether you like it or not. tones

[FindLiberty]

...Palin carries a LOT of weight whether you like it or not...

Let's keep those insults trimmed down please. Maybe she's just pregnant.

[LittleLightShining]

well who knows...has Rand Paul approached Palin? If you keep insulting her, I'm sure it will turn her off from endorsing our candidates..and Palin carries a LOT of weight whether you like it or not. tones

Apparently Sofia carries a lot of weight, too, if she can keep Palin form endorsing Rand... :rolleyes:

Tones, we all know you love Sarah Palin. Relax and try not to get so worked up when someone disagrees with you.

[tonesforjonesbones]

No..i'm not so fond of Palin since she quit her job. That was weak...BUT, the vitriol surrounding her on this forum, I consider to be counter productive and nothing but following the socialist democrap trend. Palin is powerful..and NO i wasn't particularly talking about SOPHIA...but the COLLECTIVIST THOUGHT on this forum about Sarah Palin. This is another example of not using a powerful tool. (immaturity) TONES

[tonesforjonesbones]

I guess I haven't been spending a lot of time here anymore because it is too trendy and left leaning. TOnes

[sofia]

No..i'm not so fond of Palin since she quit her job. That was weak...BUT, the vitriol surrounding her on this forum, I consider to be counter productive and nothing but following the socialist democrap trend. Palin is powerful..and NO i wasn't particularly talking about SOPHIA...but the COLLECTIVIST THOUGHT on this forum about Sarah Palin. This is another example of not using a powerful tool. (immaturity) TONES

If you feed into her power, you end up making her even more powerful. If she were ever elected preseident, believe me, you'd have another George Bush on your hands who would stab u in the back to feed her ambition.

The time to discredit her is now.....unless of course you like the idea of continually having our troops killed and maimed, along with 1000's of innocent civilains.

The woman is a neo-con creation and her handlers are Bill Kristol and Randy Schuneman.

No thanks

[moostraks]

No..i'm not so fond of Palin since she quit her job. That was weak...BUT, the vitriol surrounding her on this forum, I consider to be counter productive and nothing but following the socialist democrap trend. Palin is powerful..and NO i wasn't particularly talking about SOPHIA...but the COLLECTIVIST THOUGHT on this forum about Sarah Palin. This is another example of not using a powerful tool. (immaturity) TONES

You make statements that have a love it, hate it, or couldn't care less response. Then if you agree with the respondant they are brilliant, if you disagree with them they are communist, collectivist, or immature, and if they don't care they generally don't respond or you demand they see it your way or you will humiliate them with the above negative responses.

There just aren't that many ways for you to slice some issues so stop name calling with everyone who disagrees with you. Palin and her handlers made her a polarizing figure. Accept that she comes with a large amount of baggage and be prepared to deal with the flack or go to a Palin support group and preach to the choir. However you get nowhere with your incessant need to browbeat everyone into submission through humiliation.If you use facts and attack the issues people disagree with you on and not the character/mindset of the respondant you might actually make progress if there is in truth any validity to what you propose.

FWIW I believe that Palin could be a trojan horse with enough sex appeal and good old apple pie and a huge self-serving ego that makes her a tremendous threat to this movement. I think she is a dangerous person to consider a tool and will do way more harm than good. It takes a person of deep personnal conviction and humility to unite folks here. She appears to have neither in any sizeable measure, imo. Her stance on war alone makes her a non-starter as she doesn't have the most basic grasp of what is causing a systemic failure to our nation.

Let her support whom she will but I would distance her from a liberty movement as being right on this issue but missing the forest for the trees she can occasionally accurately identify.

[itshappening]

Palin is a Kristol backed war monger

[ClayTrainor]

Palin is not our friend, unless your merely interested in gaming democracy :o...


Palin is powerful..

For all the wrong reasons.

[sofia]

It takes a person of deep personnal conviction and humility to unite folks here. She appears to have neither in any sizeable measure, imo. .

U nailed it!

Only someone of the moral stature, intellect, and HUMILITY of a Ron Paul could appeal to many diverse elements on a forum like this.

What an accomplishment to unite atheists, fundamentalists, anarchists, traditional conservatives, young, old, black and white, all behind a little old country doctor from Texas.

That ultra-ambitious, money hungry, war mongering, narcissitic attention whore from Alaska is an uneducated DIVIDER.

Ron Paul is a UNITER, by the sheer force of his character and intellect.

[angelatc]

No..i'm not so fond of Palin since she quit her job. That was weak...BUT, the vitriol surrounding her on this forum, I consider to be counter productive and nothing but following the socialist democrap trend. Palin is powerful..and NO i wasn't particularly talking about SOPHIA...but the COLLECTIVIST THOUGHT on this forum about Sarah Palin. This is another example of not using a powerful tool. (immaturity) TONES

She also waited until several other prominent members of the GOP endorsed him. She didn't lead the pack on this, she jumped on the bandwagon.

If we want her to endorse Rand we apparently need to get Dick Armey, Michelle Bachmann, Steve Forbes and Fred Thompson to jump on. (Actually, 3 of those are political friends of Ron Paul and quite possibly do-able.)

I think I"ve just illustrated that it's Palin who is the trendy one, not us. We're still the anti-war Republicans, just like we always were.

[heavenlyboy34]

I guess I haven't been spending a lot of time here anymore because it is too trendy and left leaning. TOnes

I agree that it's too trendy(which is why I'm not here too much anymore either), but I don't see the left-leaning trend.:confused:

[rpfan2008]

PALIN endorses a tree. Same thing.

[Brian4Liberty]

Palin is a Kristol backed war monger

Kristol has also backed Hoffman. Palin simply follows instructions.

[AJ Antimony]

I don't think the Conservative Party of New York is as much a third party as you think. They often endorse Republican candidates and I think they always support the Republican nominee for President.

[james1906]

http://imgsrv.923krock.com/image/wfny3/UserFiles/Image/news_images/fat_women_in_bikinis.jpg

[pahs1994]

I guess I haven't been spending a lot of time here anymore because it is too trendy and left leaning. TOnes

too left leaning? you voted for McAmnesty ms lefty

[Flash]

too left leaning? you voted for McAmnesty ms lefty

Many members here would actually agree with allowing illegal immigrants to live in America.

[RevolutionSD]

Palin has endorsed a third party candidate. This is good. tones

Palin endorses third-party candidate

The Associated Press

Published: October 23rd, 2009 10:17 PM
Last Modified: October 23rd, 2009 10:17 PM

ALBANY, N.Y. -- Less than a year removed from serving as the Republican vice presidential candidate, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has endorsed a third-party candidate for an upstate New York House seat. Palin backed Conservative party nominee Doug Hoffman on Thursday over Republican Assemblywoman Dierdre Scozzafava in the state's 23rd District.

Palin has written on her Facebook page that Hoffman stands for the principles that all Republicans should share: smaller government, lower taxes and a commitment to individual liberty. Scozzafava spokesman Matt Burns says no endorsement will change the fact that a vote for Doug Hoffman is a vote for Nancy Pelosi's big government agenda. Democrat Bill Owens is also running for the seat. Republican Rep. John McHugh vacated the office last month to become secretary of the Army.

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Palin is a neocon who supports the killing of innocent people.

Why should we care at all about what she thinks?

[rpfan2008]

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/the_leander/Third-party-facepalm.jpg

[teamrican1]

Palin is a neocon who supports the killing of innocent people.

Why should we care at all about what she thinks?

Palin is a person with a very thin political record and without a strongly defined political philosophy but a very high profile. There are many things in her past which suggest she may be open to libertarian ideas, including her lukewarm views on the war. The RNC, Newt Gingrich, and the neocons have recently made a full court push for the Liberal Republican in this House district. Palin's decision to enter the fray against the establishment is a good sign. Instead of calling her names, why not try and convince her to come over to our side? That's exactly what Ron Paul has been doing with Michelle Bachman and that has gained us a very high profile and powerful ally in our war against the Fed.

I'm not launching a call for Palin for President, but what she did here was very good from our prospective and instead of name calling I think we'd be far better off bombing Palin with emails arguing why she should do the same thing with Rand and Peter.

[Time for Change]

U nailed it!

Only someone of the moral stature, intellect, and HUMILITY of a Ron Paul could appeal to many diverse elements on a forum like this.

What an accomplishment to unite atheists, fundamentalists, anarchists, traditional conservatives, young, old, black and white, all behind a little old country doctor from Texas.

That ultra-ambitious, money hungry, war mongering, narcissitic attention whore from Alaska is an uneducated DIVIDER.

Ron Paul is a UNITER, by the sheer force of his character and intellect.

[the following is not directed at any specific individual, so nobody take it as a personal attack, but I must release this rant]

Well said...for the most part…
So who do we have that’s willing and able to present a legitimate campaign, that is certain to be a vicious uphill battle, while uniting the widely varied preferences presented in this country?

Whom are we going to back that has any chance of gaining traction?
I don't see anyone stepping up to the plate.
ANYONE? NOPE!

I am NOT being a smart ass; I want to know who we have that is going to present a viable challenge to the status quo. Every single person that has challenged, even from within one of the so-called two parties, has been ridiculed, negated and ignored.
Have we forgotten the ’08 primaries?

Nobody.
At the rate we are going, we will end up with the same old lame ass third party campaigns with candidates negated by the shill-ridden media and end up voting for the lesser of two evils… again.

Why?
Because we are constantly dividing OURSELVES over trivial issues and senseless ego trips.

I am no Palin fan per-se, but if Palin wants to claim alliance with the principles of liberty, is capable of learning and willing to take the heat,
Good, hold her feet to the fire without being utterly destructive in the process.

She wants to be instrumental in forming what may be a new and viable third party?
(Face it; it will take star power to make that happen)
Great! That will lend additional credibility to third party voting.
Is that NOT what we would like here?

If the masses of typically uninformed voters wake up and realize that the third party is a real option and that gains momentum, that may help in undoing the corrupt 2 party system in place now.
Not necessarily a bad thing.

[YumYum]

[the following is not directed at any specific individual, so nobody take it as a personal attack, but I must release this rant]

Well said...for the most part…
So who do we have that’s willing and able to present a legitimate campaign, that is certain to be a vicious uphill battle, while uniting the widely varied preferences presented in this country?

Whom are we going to back that has any chance of gaining traction?
I don't see anyone stepping up to the plate.
ANYONE? NOPE!

I am NOT being a smart ass; I want to know who we have that is going to present a viable challenge to the status quo. Every single person that has challenged, even from within one of the so-called two parties, has been ridiculed, negated and ignored.
Have we forgotten the ’08 primaries?

Nobody.
At the rate we are going, we will end up with the same old lame ass third party campaigns with candidates negated by the shill-ridden media and end up voting for the lesser of two evils… again.

Why?
Because we are constantly dividing OURSELVES over trivial issues and senseless ego trips.

I am no Palin fan per-se, but if Palin wants to claim alliance with the principles of liberty, is capable of learning and willing to take the heat,
Good, hold her feet to the fire without being utterly destructive in the process.

She wants to be instrumental in forming what may be a new and viable third party?
(Face it; it will take star power to make that happen)
Great! That will lend additional credibility to third party voting.
Is that NOT what we would like here?

If the masses of typically uninformed voters wake up and realize that the third party is a real option and that gains momentum, that may help in undoing the corrupt 2 party system in place now.
Not necessarily a bad thing.

If C4L begs Palin to jump on board, Ron Suppoters will have to make a compromise. They will be in agreement with Palin on domestic issues, but will have to agree with her on her neocon foreign policies. That means going to war with Iran. If Palin supports a third Party she will split not only the Republican Party, but she will break up Ron Paul supporters into a dozen pieces. You will follow her into WWIII, while some of us will continue to stick with Ron Paul's message 100%.

[Time for Change]

but she will break up Ron Paul supporters into a dozen pieces. You will follow her into WWIII, while some of us will continue to stick with Ron Paul's message 100%.
As if we are not already?

FWIW, I don't see CFL begging her to come in and readily accepting a warmonger mentality.
That is NOT what CFL stands for...that is NOT what any of us stand for.
EDUCATE her.


You will follow her into WWIII
No, not really, but thanks for the vote of confidence.

I am not here to defend Palin; I am speaking of the divisive tendency I am witnessing over the past few months. It got to me and I spoke out...that's all.

[revolutionary8]

I think we need to start treating these people like products and pieces of equipment we are considering for purchase, because in essence, that is what they are. lol.

If I were on amazon, I would rate this post as the most helpful favorable review:

Teamrican1 wrote:

Palin is a person with a very thin political record and without a strongly defined political philosophy but a very high profile. There are many things in her past which suggest she may be open to libertarian ideas, including her lukewarm views on the war. The RNC, Newt Gingrich, and the neocons have recently made a full court push for the Liberal Republican in this House district. Palin's decision to enter the fray against the establishment is a good sign. Instead of calling her names, why not try and convince her to come over to our side? That's exactly what Ron Paul has been doing with Michelle Bachman and that has gained us a very high profile and powerful ally in our war against the Fed.

I'm not launching a call for Palin for President, but what she did here was very good from our prospective and instead of name calling I think we'd be far better off bombing Palin with emails arguing why she should do the same thing with Rand and Peter.


And this as the most helpful critical review:




FWIW I believe that Palin could be a trojan horse with enough sex appeal and good old apple pie and a huge self-serving ego that makes her a tremendous threat to this movement. I think she is a dangerous person to consider a tool and will do way more harm than good. It takes a person of deep personnal conviction and humility to unite folks here. She appears to have neither in any sizeable measure, imo. Her stance on war alone makes her a non-starter as she doesn't have the most basic grasp of what is causing a systemic failure to our nation.

Let her support whom she will but I would distance her from a liberty movement as being right on this issue but missing the forest for the trees she can occasionally accurately identify.

:D

Now, to buy, or not to buy? There is no harm in shopping around and waiting for the final purchase ya know. ;)

we need a rating site for congress - zombazon.com lol

[sofia]

What don't you people understand?

Palin is in bed with Bill Kristol....end of discussion.....Unless of course we want to start comprising with the Kristols and Cheneys of this world. Afterall, they are high profile too.

Do you Palin lovers like killing Arab women and children?
Do you like the Patriot Act?
Do you like being Israel's b***?

cause Palin does!

Can't some of you people see through her beauty queen narcissism?

She walked out on her job in order to make $100,000 per speech and sell a ton of books to the suckers who think she's "conservative"

[revolutionary8]

What don't you people understand?

Palin is in bed with Bill Kristol....end of discussion.....Unless of course we want to start comprising with the Kristols and Cheneys of this world. Afterall, they are high profile too.

Can't some of you people see through her beauty queen narcissism?

She walked out on her job in order to make $100,000 per speech and sell a ton of books to the suckers who think she's "conservative"


I fall somewhere in between the posts that I posted above. I am not hell bent on Palin being completely compromised, and I am not hell bent on her having the ability/aptitude/desire/dedication/integrity, etc. to be educated either.

I think this might be the whole point of the third parties. lol

As far as Republicans go, I've met some reallll nice Palinites on my travels, good people--- and I sure don't want to alienate them by "announcing" to them that their "idol" is merely a puppet, when I really don't know for absoluely sure, and assume she is b/c the majority of congress is one big stinking, steaming pile of filth. That goes over much better with George Bush. :D Most of em get it. After the Palin Scandal- even Newt Gingrich is a good target nowadays- esp. when ya bring up the Global Warming/Tax on Air commercial he did on National TeeVee with Nancy Pelosi. :D
In case you haven't noticed, this is prime time for throwing the Newt in the pond. Let's hope he floats. :D

"She turned me in to a Newt"



YouTube - Monty Python-Witch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr8DIg3oHFI)


Baby steps off the plank.
lol

[Time for Change]

What don't you people understand?

Do you Obama lovers like killing Arab women and children?
Do you like the Obama support of the Patriot Act?
Do you like being Israel's b***?

cause Obama does!

Can't some of you people see through Obamas narcissism?


[ again, this post is not intended to attack anyone specifically, it is intended to hopefully rekindle focus on our goals to replace ALL the substandard representatives]

Insert favorite political target in place of Palin in above post.
They all apply, even the messiah Barrack Hussein Obama.
You know, the miracle democrat who opposes the wars and is going to save us all…

Ninety-nine percent of the political puppets in DC are narcissists, so that comment is irrelevant.
She may be a narcissist, she may not, I have never met her and I really don’t care.
If I ever personally meet her (not even remotely possible), I will make that assessment at that time.

I understand your hatred of her.
The media set and enacted an agenda of making her the epitome of all evil and is still working to ensure she never gains political footing on a national level.
The message has thoroughly permeated into the population. No big deal.

Now that it has been established that the nation should detest everything about her, who is proposed to take her place?

Nobody seems willing to offer up any names.
Why is that?
Everyone is completely focused on discrediting one political figure or another (includes all candidates in all races) but very rarely offer up the person capable of doing whatever they claim to stand for.

For f's sake, Palin is not even running for anything, but we must make sure nobody forgets she is the worst person ever born.
Palin was simply a pawn in a failed campaign designed to be a losing proposition. It’s pretty much that simple. McWar never had a chance of winning and I think we are all aware that it was all just a show.

Moving forward, Can we focus on finding and promoting those who really DO represent liberty minded people and limit the infighting. It is counterproductive and somewhat fishy.

We all need to find who is running in our local races, check up on them and support the people who represent limited intrusion into our lives. THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS MOVEMENT.

What’s the point of being awakened only to be lulled immediately back into the distraction trap set by an agenda driven media?

we need everyone bickering about Palin so they dont notice the sinking dollar
If we do not like the present political personalities, we need to work very hard to replace them, not sit around and argue about ones that are not even running for any elected office. Find principled individuals, promote them, support them.

[pahs1994]

Many members here would actually agree with allowing illegal immigrants to live in America.

Yea and many members here think 9/11 was done by a UFO. John McCain is FAR from being a conservative.

i am just saying that she supported a guy that is way out in the middle and is now accusing people here of being leftists

[sofia]

Yea and many members here think 9/11 was done by a UFO. John McCain is FAR from being a conservative.

i am just saying that she supported a guy that is way out in the middle and is now accusing people here of being leftists

some here actually believe 19 arab kids with boxcutters pulled 9/11 off.

now THAT'S a conspiracy theory!

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Let me know when someone of any stature (political) actually endorses a real third party candidate (LP, Const., etc.). To say that the CPoNY is actually a third-party is hilarious.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

[the following is not directed at any specific individual, so nobody take it as a personal attack, but I must release this rant]

Well said...for the most part…
So who do we have that’s willing and able to present a legitimate campaign, that is certain to be a vicious uphill battle, while uniting the widely varied preferences presented in this country?

Whom are we going to back that has any chance of gaining traction?
I don't see anyone stepping up to the plate.
ANYONE? NOPE!

I am NOT being a smart ass; I want to know who we have that is going to present a viable challenge to the status quo. Every single person that has challenged, even from within one of the so-called two parties, has been ridiculed, negated and ignored.
Have we forgotten the ’08 primaries?

Nobody.
At the rate we are going, we will end up with the same old lame ass third party campaigns with candidates negated by the shill-ridden media and end up voting for the lesser of two evils… again.

Why?
Because we are constantly dividing OURSELVES over trivial issues and senseless ego trips.

I am no Palin fan per-se, but if Palin wants to claim alliance with the principles of liberty, is capable of learning and willing to take the heat,
Good, hold her feet to the fire without being utterly destructive in the process.

She wants to be instrumental in forming what may be a new and viable third party?
(Face it; it will take star power to make that happen)
Great! That will lend additional credibility to third party voting.
Is that NOT what we would like here?

If the masses of typically uninformed voters wake up and realize that the third party is a real option and that gains momentum, that may help in undoing the corrupt 2 party system in place now.
Not necessarily a bad thing.

Let me take this on. Our goal really shouldn't be the Presidency. The States, and the Governors / State Legislatures, hold more power than the President and Federal Government. I wonder if more people will come to this conclusion if our movement in the national spectrum fails in 2010 and 2012 (Which I hope doesn't.). Sure, it may be futile in many States, but if one State grows some balls more will follow. This is why States remained Sovereign, and weren't made into provinces.

Anyways, look local. Don't worry too much about third parties running Presidency campaigns. We could easily get a ton of liberty loving State Reps and Senators in States like GA, TX, NH, Alaska, OK, AL, etc. Look at Ray McBerry in GA. If one Governor would stand up, and say no to the Federal Government that would start a huge chain reaction.

So, if we got third party candidates elected State-wide, along with Liberty D's and R's, we could start to change State ballot laws, debate laws, etc. so third parties would be more conducive.

Remember the recent ruling where the Fed overuled some county about having R's and D's on the list? If the Governor was worth his salt, he would tell them to shove it, and has all the legal authority to do so. If the Fed wants to come in, then they'll have to deal with the State NTL Guard, State Troopers, State AG, County/Municipal Police, and whatever Militia is located within the State. I doubt the Fed will push.

[Bman]

I guess I haven't been spending a lot of time here anymore because it is too trendy and left leaning. Tones

So not liking Palin equals left leaning? Plus this place is far from trendy. Maybe you've missed the thousands of posts where people argue different perspectives.

The problem is you offer little substance when you make a comment. Just like the quoted comment.

[Pants]

I find Palin interesting. She has the basic fundamentals on fiscal responsibility, and small Government. Which many Republicans no longer have.. I doubt she is stupid.. I think inexperienced and strange might be the correct terminology. I probably wouldn't vote for her as President.

I was disappointed in McCain. He campaigned and pretended to be a hard line conservative rather than a liberal/moderate Republican. He Pretended to be a Newt Gingurich with a Bill Clinton voting record. Rather than being himself he was fake and phony. I guess Obama had a better smile, looked better, and was a smooth talker and had little if any voting record..

Back to the subject.. I'd rather see a grumpy old man be President.. .. Ron Paul is my president.. but I would like to see him get a little more grumpy and angry. :)

I'd like to see Zell Miller run.. His debates are at least entertaining.

I guess my picks for President in 2012.. Ron Paul.. Bobby Jindal.. or Pawlenty.. If neither one.. I probably would go with Huckabee. Palin isn't on the top of my list as a President. I would have no problem voting for her as a Senator or Congresswoman.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

I find Palin interesting. She has the basic fundamentals on fiscal responsibility, and small Government. Which many Republicans no longer have.. I doubt she is stupid.. I think inexperienced and strange might be the correct terminology. I probably wouldn't vote for her as President.

I was disappointed in McCain. He campaigned and pretended to be a hard line conservative rather than a liberal/moderate Republican. He Pretended to be a Newt Gingurich with a Bill Clinton voting record. Rather than being himself he was fake and phony. I guess Obama had a better smile, looked better, and was a smooth talker and had little if any voting record..

Back to the subject.. I'd rather see a grumpy old man be President.. .. Ron Paul is my president.. but I would like to see him get a little more grumpy and angry. :)

I'd like to see Zell Miller run.. His debates are at least entertaining.

I guess my picks for President in 2012.. Ron Paul.. Bobby Jindal.. or Pawlenty.. If neither one.. I probably would go with Huckabee. Palin isn't on the top of my list as a President. I would have no problem voting for her as a Senator or Congresswoman.

Ewww. Why on earth would you ever vote for Huckabee? I'll vote GOP if Gary Johnson or Ron Paul runs. I can't see myself voting for anyone else in the GOP though. Possibly DeMint also....

I think Mary Ruwart has a good shot at getting the LP nomination for 2012, so, I'll most likely end up voting for her. I don't see Gary or Ron getting the nod, but you never know!

I would urge you to check out Jindal and Pawlenty more. You might find some things that you never knew.

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=35481 - Jindal

I'll let you check out Pawlenty yourself some. Just a heads up, I'm a pretty firm libertarian, so take that as you will.

[Pants]

I guess traditionally I am a Republican.. I have been calling myself a disgruntled Republican. I felt Obama was so scary I had to hold my nose and vote McCain. If I voted Constitution Party or Libertarian.. (I think in my state Libertarian wasn't on the ballot.)That would have been a vote for Obama. I just couldn't do it. Maybe that line of thinking is not fully exercising my right to vote. I think my wife threw away her vote and wrote in Paris Hilton. She could not stand McCain or Obama. She figured the next 4 years we would be doomed either way.

If Hillary took the Democratic nomination. I would have easily voted 3rd party.


Ewww. Why on earth would you ever vote for Huckabee? I'll vote GOP if Gary Johnson or Ron Paul runs. I can't see myself voting for anyone else in the GOP though. Possibly DeMint also....

I think Mary Ruwart has a good shot at getting the LP nomination for 2012, so, I'll most likely end up voting for her. I don't see Gary or Ron getting the nod, but you never know!

I would urge you to check out Jindal and Pawlenty more. You might find some things that you never knew.

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=35481 - Jindal

I'll let you check out Pawlenty yourself some. Just a heads up, I'm a pretty firm libertarian, so take that as you will.

[ClayTrainor]

Many members here would actually agree with allowing illegal immigrants to live in America.

The status of "illegal" as defined by government, is bogus anyways. It's just another example of an enforced monopoly trying to control something they don't understand. I've read stories about how many of the illegal immigrants are just taking shitty low paying jobs that no one else wants to do. I see nothing wrong with this, and whenever someone comes here to work, it shouldn't be a problem. That helps you. The only real problem is "free handouts" paid for on the taxpayer time.

Enforced taxation is the source of every single problem America faces, and there will be no firm practical solution until they admit this.

[sofia]

I guess traditionally I am a Republican.. I have been calling myself a disgruntled Republican. I felt Obama was so scary I had to hold my nose and vote McCain. If I voted Constitution Party or Libertarian.. (I think in my state Libertarian wasn't on the ballot.)That would have been a vote for Obama. I just couldn't do it. Maybe that line of thinking is not fully exercising my right to vote. I think my wife threw away her vote and wrote in Paris Hilton. She could not stand McCain or Obama. She figured the next 4 years we would be doomed either way.

If Hillary took the Democratic nomination. I would have easily voted 3rd party.

Republican party is full of liberals.

Did you know that Newt Gingrich endorses the phony Global Warming theory....and has been promoting a website run by Al Gore?

[Pants]

You are correct.. I think Bush was a Liberal l.. I can give you about a dozen examples why I think Bush was a Liberal.

I think if we would have a REAL Conservative in office. The wars would have been done entirely different. (If we would have went to war at all.) If Bush were a real conservative he would not have spent so much money. A real conservative would not allowed Iraq and Afghanistan to become endless money pits.. A real conservative would not have increased the size of Government as well.

[powerofreason]

Let me know when someone of any stature (political) actually endorses a real third party candidate (LP, Const., etc.). To say that the CPoNY is actually a third-party is hilarious.

That about sums up how I feel about this bit of non-news.

Palin: Warmongering bimbo fueled by (nonsensical) religious fervor. Yea, sounds very pro liberty.

[ClayTrainor]

Tones... may I ask why it is you support Palin so strongly? What's the main reason?

[sofia]

Tones... may I ask why it is you support Palin so strongly? What's the main reason?

For the same reason all misguided conservatives support Palin. Because liberals hates her, knee-jerk conservatives automaticcaly assume that she must be good.

This is not independent political thought...it is pure Pavlovian conditioning.

This is how the Establishment Media picks our leaders for us. They'll take a puppet sellout ambitious hack Like Newt or Sarah....then they'll attack her so that we'll follow the phony conservative!

Beleieve me. If Sarah Palin truly was a threat to the leftist elite, she wouldnt be getting so much free media attention (negatrive or positive)..

No...a true conservative would be getting the silent treatment.

[pacelli]

I guess I haven't been spending a lot of time here anymore because it is too trendy and left leaning. TOnes

Beware of brain washing. It isn't just a trend-setting & left-leaning phenomenon.

[libertarian4321]

That ultra-ambitious, money hungry, war mongering, narcissitic attention whore from Alaska is an uneducated DIVIDER.

Ron Paul is a UNITER, by the sheer force of his character and intellect.

I agree, except that you should add that Palin has no character.

[tonesforjonesbones]

How do you know Palin has no character? What I see is a bunch of kids who jumped on the leftist Palin Hate bandwagon. I am not as supportive of Palin as I once was...but I do realize she is the GOP populist and that carries some weight. I do not believe Palin to be the bimbo the left..and probably the right , has made her to be. I do'nt know how some of you can truthfully be Ron Paul supporters...because you can't figure out that Huffington Post, Kucinich, Olberman, Mahr, Jon Stewart...are not our friends. SO? They liked that ROn Paul spoke against Bush...they liked he was against the war, (which they seem to be supporting since Obama is in office), but they REALLY don't like much of ANYTHING Ron Paul stands for. You hate Palin, but I still say you are hating the wrong folks. The grassroots republicans are not the enemy...you will come closer to resonating with them than the socialists on the other side. Yes, I certainly do believe this forum has shifted to the left. Do I agree with the republicans' at the top ...no...but I do believe the grassroots republicans are who we should be cozying up to..certainly not the democraps. As far as the person who said my posts never have substance...not my fault that you can't grasp what I'm saying. TONES

[sofia]

I agree, except that you should add that Palin has no character.

very true...

According to The Globe's investigation, "Christian conservative" Sarah is a shopaholic who had sex with her husbands business partner. Her daughter is a tramp, and her son is a coke head.

Remember, it was gossip rags like the Globe that broke the Edwards and Jesse Jackson scandals while MSM was asleep.

[jmdrake]

How do you know Palin has no character? What I see is a bunch of kids who jumped on the leftist Palin Hate bandwagon.

Because I can't imagine anyone with character supporting the bailout.

YouTube - Sarah Palin Talks Bailout Proposal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txfqWzGMgmY)

And I don't think that being against politicians that supported the bailout makes me a "leftist".

[tonesforjonesbones]

I merely thought it was a good thing that some powerful republicans are starting to endorse third party candidates...and ya'll made it a Palin hate fest. Tones

[sofia]

YouTube - Sarah Palin Talks Bailout Proposal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txfqWzGMgmY)

And I don't think that being against politicians that supported the bailout makes me a "leftist".

Thanks for the comic relief. That has to be the most pathetic display of stupidity in the history of US politics.

[anaconda]

this one is a no-brainer, even for an idiot like Palin.

The Repub here is affiliated with ACORN....and Fox / talk radio have alreadt gotten behind the 3rd party guy before the dipshit from Alaska put in her two cents.


Let's see an endorsement of Rand over ex-Democrat, Harvard boy Grayson. Then I'll be impressed.


But that aint gonna happen!!!.

Exactly. Palin really does now appear to be milk toast at best. Her best shot would have been to go completely rogue libertarian and to try to take over the GOP a la Ron Paul. She could have survived her association with McCain but she has squandered that window of opportunity. She has no more credibility.

[anaconda]

Thanks for the comic relief. That has to be the most pathetic display of stupidity in the history of US politics.

I just cringe at that Couric interview.

[sofia]

I just cringe at that Couric interview.

The liberal media attacked Palin so that they can set up a conservative straw-man that can be easily knocked down.

They know how easily some us will fall into the line with simplistic reasoning "the media hates Palin, ergo she's our leader."

If Palin were any type of threat to the global elite, she wouldnt be getting all this attention. Every time the dipshit twitters it gets hyped up by MSM and the radio talk show clowns.

Meanwhile, Ron Paul is relegated to occassional cable TV interviews.

[teamrican1]

Because I can't imagine anyone with character supporting the bailout.


McCain supported the bailout, not her. Everything about her record suggested she would have opposed them and once she was freed of the McCain campaign she was quite vocal in her opposition to them. Criticize her for taking a spot on McCain's ticket, but don't act as if McCain's policies are hers.

[sofia]

McCain supported the bailout, not her. Everything about her record suggested she would have opposed them and once she was freed of the McCain campaign she was quite vocal in her opposition to them. Criticize her for taking a spot on McCain's ticket, but don't act as if McCain's policies are hers.

She'll do whatever her neo-con handlers tell he to do.....and the neo-cons supported the bailouts.

Sarah Palin belongs to Bill Kristol....completly

[angelatc]

I just cringe at that Couric interview.

Me too, and the response too.

"When did you stop beating your wife?" is gotcha journalism. "What newspapers do you read?" isn't.

[Matt Collins]

The Chair of the Nashville GOP (I am Vice-Chair) has publicly endorsed the NY non-Republican too.

You can read about it here.... the comments on this page are hilarious too:
http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2009/10/20/davidson-county-republican-party-endorses-non-republican/ (http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2009/10/20/davidson-county-republican-party-endorses-non-republican/)

[jmdrake]

The Chair of the Nashville GOP (I am Vice-Chair) has publicly endorsed the NY non-Republican too.

You can read about it here.... the comments on this page are hilarious too:
http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2009/10/20/davidson-county-republican-party-endorses-non-republican/ (http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2009/10/20/davidson-county-republican-party-endorses-non-republican/)

“The Liberals are trying to infiltrate the Conservative Party, especially now because of the Tea Party uproar. Be Aware.. and help Doug get elected.. even if it is $25.00. I did. We need to help our neighbors.. We do not need any more Rhinos,” wrote Starnes.

Please tell me she didn't really spell the acronym "Republican In Name Only" with an "h". :rolleyes:

Anyway I see this as all good news. Starnes and others are going to have a hard time defending the position that Republican party officials must support anybody with an "R" after their name now. This should make for an interesting election season.

[jmdrake]

McCain supported the bailout, not her. Everything about her record suggested she would have opposed them and once she was freed of the McCain campaign she was quite vocal in her opposition to them. Criticize her for taking a spot on McCain's ticket, but don't act as if McCain's policies are hers.

So you admit that she defended something she didn't really believe in and yet you think she has character? :rolleyes: Doesn't that just make it worse?

[Matt Collins]

Please tell me she didn't really spell the acronym "Republican In Name Only" with an "h". :rolleyes:

Anyway I see this as all good news. Starnes and others are going to have a hard time defending the position that Republican party officials must support anybody with an "R" after their name now. This should make for an interesting election season.
I don't want to openly discuss internal GOP stuff on a public forum. E-mail me about it and I'll give you the full scoop ;)

[jmdrake]

I merely thought it was a good thing that some powerful republicans are starting to endorse third party candidates...and ya'll made it a Palin hate fest. Tones

I agree that powerful republicans supporting a third party candidate is good because it will be harder for them to attack us later when we're forced to do the same thing. (Supporting some 3rd party candidate over the GOP's anointed ones). And I'd think it was a good thing if this was Dick Cheney supporting some third party candidate. But I wouldn't take the next step and say I thought Dick Cheney had "character" and everyone "hating" on him was a "leftist". That's all.