I pledge to show Fall of Republic to 10 newbies.

[sofia]

I think AJ did a geat job with this. We need to move past the echo chamber FAST and get this to people outside of our "echo chamber."

I pledge to get 10 people who have no knowledge of this stuff to view it.


FULL LENGTH YOU TUBE OF FALL OF THE REPUBLIC...

YouTube - Fall Of The Republic - The Presidency Of Barack H Obama - The Full Movie HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8&feature=player_embedded)

[walt]

I've already done this. :)

It's sad that more people apparently haven't.

[sofia]

I've already done this. :)

It's sad that more people apparently haven't.

people need to get over their fear of the "what will people think if i show them this" mentality.

unless we aggressively reach out behind our closed circle - first to the Te Party crowd - then to the general population - we will continually be rolled by the media

[Anti Federalist]

10?

I've already got 100 copies passed out. ;)

[squarepusher]

i sent out like 100, got I think about 3-4 views lol. Even then im not sure if they were even the entire flim.

Even though AJ is a bit of a controversy around here, 1 thing is he is consistent (doesn't change his tune due to popularity), and 2 he does a good job of getting out the whole, duopoly 2 party system of dem/repub's essentially being the same.

[sofia]

so sad to see people get so engrossed by the unimportant drama of TV shows and sports when the REAL drama of the world stage is so much more fascinating anyway!

[christagious]

I'm thinking about going in with some people to buy a block of time on the local Public Access channel to air the movie. Only problem I see is, who actually watches that channel? I figured I'd put up flyers everywhere saying "Watch this channel, this day, at this time, or set your DVR, to wake up/fight back" something like that.

What do you guys think?

[akforme]

I don't think it's a good newbie movie, at least not to somebody who's not looking or doesn't have some understanding how the system works. The first 20 minutes and the last 20 mins are a bit extreme and may turn people off.

I'd start with a less controversia movie like "money as debt" and get them thinking first.

[Dreamofunity]

Anything new offered in this movie compared to his last 10?

[Reason]

fuck alex jones and his bullshit documentaries

there are legitimate documentaries out there, no need to use AJ's bullshit that is filled with truths, half truths, exaggerations and straight up bullshit

when you mix it all together you discredit the legitimate as well

[Anti Federalist]

fuck alex jones and his bullshit documentaries

there are legitimate documentaries out there, no need to use AJ's bullshit that is filled with truths, half truths, exaggerations and straight up bullshit

when you mix it all together you discredit the legitimate as well

Lulz...so I guess it's safe to assume you won't be passing any around.

:rolleyes:

[Flash]

I didn't even realize this movie was out. I guess I'll watch it.

[walt]

Even though AJ is a bit of a controversy around here, 1 thing is he is consistent (doesn't change his tune due to popularity), and 2 he does a good job of getting out the whole, duopoly 2 party system of dem/repub's essentially being the same.

+1000 (emphasis added)

[walt]

I don't think it's a good newbie movie, at least not to somebody who's not looking or doesn't have some understanding how the system works. The first 20 minutes and the last 20 mins are a bit extreme and may turn people off.


I agree with this to some extent, I still ask people to watch the Obama Deception first as it connects it to emotional recent events. Fall of the Republic is much more factual and doesn't hit the vibe of the media Obama frenzy that existed (and has gotten less media attention as a result).

I'm finding that Republicans are in the left-right paradigm and saying "we can vote him out". Democrats on the other hand voted for one thing with Obama and they are starting to realize they aren't getting what they signed up for. What this means that it is about 10,000x easier to wake up a Democrat right now compared to a Republican.

[catdd]

Best check it out, it suddenly stopped working.

[ForLiberty-RonPaul]

it works, but i've occasionally been getting an error message from youtube on various vids.

[LibForestPaul]

thats a cool omen. tried watching it,youtube went out. haha

[Endgame]

[B]fuck alex jones and his bullshit documentaries

there are legitimate documentaries out there,

Why don't you recommend us one then?

[Carole]

Sent the address to a bunch of my contacts. :D

[Endgame]

I think Alex Jones is really getting out a positive message of resistance. For awhile I'd assumed that he would only be able to sway idiots with his theatrics (Glen Beck has nothing on this guy). Then, a friend of mine was telling me how he got a copy of The Obama Deception from an old friend from grad school, who is now some kind of genius biology researcher at MIT. Alex is actually reaching extremely intelligent people with his message.

[Epic]

The economic message in FOTR is pro-mercantalist pro-FDR from what i've heard.

if so that sucks.

[sofia]

I'm thinking about going in with some people to buy a block of time on the local Public Access channel to air the movie. Only problem I see is, who actually watches that channel? I figured I'd put up flyers everywhere saying "Watch this channel, this day, at this time, or set your DVR, to wake up/fight back" something like that.

What do you guys think?

it can be seen free on youtube, so if you're gonna make fliers....just ad a "YouTube - Fall of the Republic" at the bottom.

you should cut and paste the movie cover to the flyer

[sofia]

fuck alex jones and his bullshit documentaries

there are legitimate documentaries out there, no need to use AJ's bullshit that is filled with truths, half truths, exaggerations and straight up bullshit

when you mix it all together you discredit the legitimate as well

if you point to one bit of bullshit or "half truth" in FOTB, I'd like to hear it.

[JenH88]

so sad to see people get so engrossed by the unimportant drama of TV shows and sports when the REAL drama of the world stage is so much more fascinating anyway!

and actually matters as well! :rolleyes: lol.. +1


I don't think it's a good newbie movie, at least not to somebody who's not looking or doesn't have some understanding how the system works. The first 20 minutes and the last 20 mins are a bit extreme and may turn people off.

I'd start with a less controversia movie like "money as debt" and get them thinking first.

i thought the same thing when i saw it (my only complaint really, this was worlds ahead of his other documentaries).. the beginning economic stuff is really heavy and would be pretty hard to follow if they dont have a basic understanding of the whole system to begin with..

[JenH88]

The economic message in FOTR is pro-mercantalist pro-FDR from what i've heard.

if so that sucks.

o_0 howso? i think you need to watch it yourself, i didn't see either in it.. only thing close to that that i remember was that he mentioned how at least FDR brought in a whole new team, whereas obama brought in the exact people who created the mess.. but there was never anything near endorsing fdr's actions, pretty sure it even went into how fdr's actions prolonged the depression..

[Reason]

Why don't you recommend us one then?

Have you seen this documentary? <The Spy Factory> (NSA & 9/11) - (Done by PBS)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=209280


[A MUST WATCH!] - The Most Profound Documentary Series Ever Made (Have you seen it?)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=207920

[jmdrake]

Fall of the republic is AJ's best film and all of his films have been great, critics notwithstanding. He doesn't have any "bull horn theatrics" in this film that turns some people off in the other films. I will definitely be passing this one out.

[WClint]

YouTube - ALEX JONES CONMAN, SHILL, OR INSANE? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYnzjP_Bm1g&feature=player_embedded)
YouTube - Conman Alex Jones Shilling for Money (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBOb2lvtChI&feature=player_embedded#at=25)
YouTube - Alex Jones Act 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrFl1BHIEsI&feature=player_embedded)
YouTube - Sheik Down: How Arabs Own Everything by Alex Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyMAYc3XtY&feature=player_embedded)
http://fallofalexjones.com/

[dr. hfn]

send it to all your youtube contacts.

[squarepusher]

http://fallofalexjones.com/

this is also from that site you admire

http://fallofalexjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ENDTHEFED.jpg

the reality is, Alex Jones needs money for his show and to make movies he puts for free out there. So, he has ads, sponsorships, and needs guests to get ratings.

Is he really working for someone else though?

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

YouTube - ALEX JONES CONMAN, SHILL, OR INSANE? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYnzjP_Bm1g&feature=player_embedded)
YouTube - Conman Alex Jones Shilling for Money (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBOb2lvtChI&feature=player_embedded#at=25)
YouTube - Alex Jones Act 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrFl1BHIEsI&feature=player_embedded)
YouTube - Sheik Down: How Arabs Own Everything by Alex Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyMAYc3XtY&feature=player_embedded)
http://fallofalexjones.com/

Common fallacy. The very action of making money off one's political awareness is not inherently devious. In fact, the merits of ones actions is two-fold. You must first ask however, what is his message? Who is he supporting? What is his methodology? How accurate is he?

Secondly, then you can answer the question of who is funding? How much money is he making?

The very action of making money in a private sector should never disqualify ANYONE. This is the free-market, and we should be celebrating this fact, not denouncing it.

If you think Alex Jones is not on our side, at least in part after everything he's done well...you can't believe anyone because everyone is getting paid some way, or some how. What a lonely experience that must be.

Someone who supports and endorses Ron Paul, Debra Medina, and liberty candidates, is someone who is antithesis to this movement on the sole fact that he makes money from his show? Well I would hope he makes some money, that means people are watching and listening.:p

[WClint]

YouTube - ALEX JONES' OSCAR WINNING PERFORMANCE ON 9/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un73smCM9QY&feature=player_embedded)

[Bucjason]

I pledge to tell 10 people how batshit crazy Alex Jones is...

[SelfTaught]

The half truth that pretty much emcompasses his last 3 films is that if we got rid of the "banker elite" everything would be fine and dandy. WRONG!!! If we got rid of the current corrupt politicians, bankers and power brokers I have no doubt in my mind that a new corrupt elite would fill its place. When you have so much power centralized in one place, it is INEVITABLE that the scumbags of the earth will try to take advantage of it.

What would be the right solution that would also take care of the corrupt elites, no matter who they are, is to take away the government's responsibility for MOST of the things they do. That includes abolishing most government agencies, getting rid of almost all regulations and allowing alternative currencies, which include gold and silver. We should do these things first before being brainwashed by the FOTR and all its pro-FDR, pro regulation BS. Not to mention Webster Tarpley's socialist rhetoric.

[RevolutionSD]

AJ believes in the myth of the so-called "good old days". This myth has been shown to be patently false. There were no good old days, this country had been mired in shit since it's inception.

AJ thinks that government is good, we just have to get the "right people" to run it (and of course to "take down the NWO!"). I completely disagree and will not be promoting his movies.

[Reason]

I pledge to tell 10 people how batshit crazy Alex Jones is...

:D

[Anti Federalist]

this is also from that site you admire



So is this:


So what IS racism? An example of racism can be found whenever anyone asks about competing conspiracy theories. For example, if a caller asks about the van on the George Washington Bridge on the morning of 9-11 (the one with the mural of a plane diving into NYC ), that is anti-semitism. If a caller asks about cases of espionage related to 9-11 that were broadcast immediately following the attacks, that person is a Nazi. If a caller wonders if Mossad could have been involved in 9-11, that person is like Adolph Hitler.

Now, you have to read between the lines, but what is being said here is fairly clear: Jones does not attack the Joos as the primary player in the 9/11 cover up, therefore he is a controlled shill.

[Anti Federalist]

I pledge to tell 10 people how batshit crazy Alex Jones is...

Lulz, so it's safe to assume you won't be passing any out either.

Come to think of it, what have you done to actively promote freedom and liberty?

[jmdrake]

Lulz, so it's safe to assume you won't be passing any out either.

Come to think of it, what have you done to actively promote freedom and liberty?

Pass out neocon koolaid. :D

[Anti Federalist]

Pass out neocon koolaid. :D

LoL.

Yeah, yer' right.;)

BJ had a "conversion", and for that I'm glad, but I'll bet good money he was one of the people calling all of us, and Ron Paul, "batshit crazy" back in 2007.