Alan Grayson: Fox News Is "The Enemy Of America" (VIDEO) [Archive]

bobbyw24

10-22-2009, 07:50 AM

Outspoken Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson slammed both Fox News and the GOP while appearing on MSNBC Wednesday, saying that "Fox News and their Republican collaborators are the enemy of America."

When it comes to health care, education, even peace, Grayson insisted that the GOP and Fox News are on the wrong side of the issues. They are the enemies of "anything good for this country," he said.

Grayson also seemed to agree with the White House's recent effort to publicly confront the news network. "What you do with a bully is you confront the bully and the bully backs down," Grayson said. 99 percent of all Americans, he added, "have the good sense to ignore them."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/22/grayson-republicans-fox-n_n_329529.html

Carole

10-22-2009, 08:09 AM

I really respect Grayson on some things, such as the FED, but I fear (regardless of FOX) he may find himself on the wrong side of history when this country falls to communism.

lester1/2jr

10-22-2009, 08:32 AM

I don't lke FOX, why on earth do they employ pretty much the entirety of the disgraced Bush administration for example, but I don't blame them for people not wanting obamacare

Andrew-Austin

10-22-2009, 08:33 AM

Grayson is so fucking lame, he sounds hysterical saying crap like that.

CountryboyRonPaul

10-22-2009, 08:37 AM

I wouldn't get to caught up in defending the people that shut us out a year ago.

bobbyw24

10-22-2009, 08:39 AM

I wouldn't get to caught up in defending the people that shut us out a year ago.

Precisely

The enemy of my enemy . . . .

CountryboyRonPaul

10-22-2009, 08:43 AM

Now someone should ask Grayson if he thinks MSNBC is the enemy of America as well.

eOs

10-22-2009, 09:01 AM

I really respect Grayson on some things, such as the FED, but I fear (regardless of FOX) he may find himself on the wrong side of history when this country falls to communism.

Hey!, snap out of it soldier! This country isn't falling to anything but a better republic because we're here.

klamath

10-22-2009, 09:11 AM

Precisely

The enemy of my enemy . . . .

Precisely. This is why we shouldn't ally ourselves with Grayson our enemy.:rolleyes:

angelatc

10-22-2009, 09:14 AM

Precisely

The enemy of my enemy . . . .

If you're going to look at it that way we'll never have any friends. I don't watch Fox because of the debate exclusion, but to sit back smugly and let the administration take out the only remotely conservative outlet in the whole country is an absolutely asinine plan.

Who will be left to protest the dismantling of the internet? Because that will be next.

bobbyw24

10-22-2009, 09:16 AM

but to sit back smugly and let the administration take out the only remotely conservative outlet in the whole country is an absolutely asinine plan.

Who will be left to protest the dismantling of the internet? Because that will be next.

good point

Stary Hickory

10-22-2009, 09:18 AM

If you're going to look at it that way we'll never have any friends. I don't watch Fox because of the debate exclusion, but to sit back smugly and let the administration take out the only remotely conservative outlet in the whole country is an absolutely asinine plan.

Who will be left to protest the dismantling of the internet? Because that will be next.

Exactly this ought to alarm anyoen who claims to support free speech. A government offical calling a FREE MARKET news station an enemy to America.

If this is not straight out of the text book of Stalin or statist dicators I don't know what is. He essentially is calling anyone who voice opinions other than those sprouted by the government controlled MSNBC, CBS, CNN and so on as enemies of America. By extension that means anyone who values FOX news as a news source is also categorized as an enemey of America.

I want Grayson out of office. His position on the FED is convienient but this statist garbage he is spewing is dangerous.

klamath

10-22-2009, 09:28 AM

I don't have a lot of use for Fox but I also remember the days before Fox. There was no oposition the the liberal side of the media in TV. Obama and Grayson don't want any one in national media to question the democratic agenda. During the Bush years when Fox was the unabased Bush outlet, MSNBC, ABC, CBS served as a check to Fox's all Bush all the time.

angelatc

10-22-2009, 09:29 AM

good point

This Fox News thing is freaking serious. Read this: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/maddowolbermann_invited_to_white_house_chat_with_o bama_but_fox_isnt_a_news_organization_140839.asp

10 years ago any such public effort to place a media outlet on a public enemies list would have been met with outcry from all media across the board. Yet nobody in the press except Helen freakin' Thomas has blinked at Obama's open-war with Fox.

ANd it is war. Axelrod actually crabbed because that Fox had fact-checked some statements that an administration official made. That's all. He didn't claim that their reporting was inaccurate - just that they did it.

This crap should scare the hell out of us. I pasionately hate MSNBC but I certainly wouldn't support a political effort to quash them.

Stary Hickory

10-22-2009, 10:15 AM

This Fox News thing is freaking serious. Read this: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/maddowolbermann_invited_to_white_house_chat_with_o bama_but_fox_isnt_a_news_organization_140839.asp

10 years ago any such public effort to place a media outlet on a public enemies list would have been met with outcry from all media across the board. Yet nobody in the press except Helen freakin' Thomas has blinked at Obama's open-war with Fox.

ANd it is war. Axelrod actually crabbed because that Fox had fact-checked some statements that an administration official made. That's all. He didn't claim that their reporting was inaccurate - just that they did it.

This crap should scare the hell out of us. I pasionately hate MSNBC but I certainly wouldn't support a political effort to quash them.

Exactly this ought to scare anyone. The leftist media has always been that way. But in recent years they have become partners in a hardcore radical liberal agenda. There is no objectivity left in the liberal media outlets. You can bash FOX all you want but it is the MOST balanced of the remaining networks.

It sticks out like a sore thumb because of the radical leftis networks. Hell the liberal left has absolutely no problem with oppressin freedom and using a gun to do it. I hate to sound partisan but, really the radicalized liberal left is a serious issue. I'd love to see the warmongers on the right removed as well. I believe this is much more likely to happen than the statists coming to their senses on the left.

The left is all but lost to the ideas of freedom and personal liberty. We are actually having to fight to keep the right to care for our own bodies in a manner we see fit. There is not only a discussion about forcibly removing this right but also a coordinated plan of attack to deprive people of these rights and the means to provide that care for themselves.

eOs

10-22-2009, 10:24 AM

We live in some pretty serious fuckin' times.

WClint

10-22-2009, 10:28 AM

You might not like Fox News but the left absolutely hates them (these are the real "haters"). The fact that every other news network is so far left it makes Fox News seem conservative is still not enough for them, they do not want you to have any voice.

No dissent will be tolerated. Just look to China, North Korea or even Venezuela

Critics said the crackdown infringed on freedom of speech and that owners were not given the right to a proper defence.

"They're closing the space for dissidents in Venezuela," William Echeverria, head of the National Council of Journalists, told RCTV, a private cable TV station, which did not have its broadcasting license renewed in 2007.

Chavez defended the closures, calling them part of the government's effort to democratize the airwaves.
http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/venezuela-shuts-down-radio-stations-2882501

klamath

10-22-2009, 10:34 AM

This Fox News thing is freaking serious. Read this: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/maddowolbermann_invited_to_white_house_chat_with_o bama_but_fox_isnt_a_news_organization_140839.asp

10 years ago any such public effort to place a media outlet on a public enemies list would have been met with outcry from all media across the board. Yet nobody in the press except Helen freakin' Thomas has blinked at Obama's open-war with Fox.

ANd it is war. Axelrod actually crabbed because that Fox had fact-checked some statements that an administration official made. That's all. He didn't claim that their reporting was inaccurate - just that they did it.

This crap should scare the hell out of us. I pasionately hate MSNBC but I certainly wouldn't support a political effort to quash them.

Gotta love this comment by American Patriot:rolleyes:

Most of the Republican pundits on Fox News are self-confessed teabaggers. I don't blame the White House for keeping them at bay. Teabaggers are a very nasty set of people. They are extremely dishonest and radical.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, these teabaggers are little more than domestic terrorists. It doesn't make sense trying to reason with them. Their aim is to destroy this Administration in anyway possible.

Inviting the fox news teabaggers to the White House would be tantamount to the Pentagon inviting the members of Al Qaeda to a national security briefing. These Republican radicals should be given the respect they deserve: NONE!!!

SelfTaught

10-22-2009, 10:45 AM

Gotta love this comment:

MarianneEvans11

A lot of journalists interviewed re: WH calls out FOX NEWS as NOT a news reporting network...have said that the WH should NOT have spoken out this way. Disagree! Sometimes, yes, when faced with adversities and lies it works to stay under the radar screen for a while. This is NOT the case with the WH. They cannot stay under the rdar because the news media, the internet, the bloggers won't let the WH get out of their site. And So, it is the only way to face accussors! Call them out on their lies and misgivings to the American people. The WH did the right thing! Obama is NOT going to hang his head and hide. He is a proud American and he loves his country more so than FOX NEWS! If they truly loved their country they would support the President - regardless of their party differences. HE WAS ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE, AND HE REPRESENTS US> THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA....so when Fox News lies and speak sout about the WH, Hannity, Beck, Rush and the rest are talking about American People as well. United we stand, divided we fall (fail)! Let's get it to gether, people and keep it together for the sake of our country if for anything else! RUSH, HANNITY & BECK are making the big bucks and can afford to go off on a spending spree...can you? They are not like us! Wake UP!

This type of mentality is hard to persuade.

Liberals that are absolutely convinced that they're right.

klamath

10-22-2009, 10:48 AM

Alan grayson had best quit shooting his mouth off or I am going to start sending money to all political Grayson opponents

SelfTaught

10-22-2009, 11:01 AM

Oh man.....sooooooo many nonsense comments.

Virtual hi-fives to anybody that bashes free markets and lower taxes.

lester1/2jr

10-22-2009, 11:04 AM

I agree with him

liz cheney, Bill kristol, john bolton.

FOX news is indeed wha the says it is

aravoth

10-22-2009, 11:13 AM

I agree with him

liz cheney, Bill kristol, john bolton.

FOX news is indeed wha the says it is

Indeed, the white house must act, and rain fire and brimstone down upon all who question the Obama Administration. It's bad for the country to have a dissenting voice. All those on Foxnews are terrorists capable of the worst kind of hate speech, they must be silenced. The First amendment should not apply to such infidels...., er,.... people. It certainly is the governemetns role to silence the opposition.

All praise Lord Obama, King douche of the Universe, and his sycophantic followers stricken with stupidity. One day, the voices of dissent will be crushed forever! And only Hope and Change will remain!

gls

10-22-2009, 11:14 AM

I wouldn't get to caught up in defending the people that shut us out a year ago.

I have to agree with this. Let's never forget what happened the night before the NH primary. These people are not on our side.

Besides, Fox is not conservative, it is merely partisan, as evidenced by the network's support of the Bush administration's big government agenda.

lester1/2jr

10-22-2009, 11:38 AM

avaroth- so you think those are some good commentators?

sorry, I'm not gonna root for FOX news. they're still FOX news. I haven't forgotten the presidential debates but apparently some here have?

SelfTaught

10-22-2009, 11:46 AM

avaroth- so you think those are some good commentators?

sorry, I'm not gonna root for FOX news. they're still FOX news. I haven't forgotten the presidential debates but apparently some here have?

See, you missed the whole point. It's not about FOX. It's about people in the government coming out and calling media organizations enemies of America. We shouldn't pick and choose which media outlet it's okay for the government to condemn. But if you think that government meddling with media is just fine, then you're entitled to your opinion.

lester1/2jr

10-22-2009, 11:51 AM

selftaught- again, I'm not going to be on FOX's side. they suck, end of story. they ARE the enemy of america regardless of who says so. I understand your point

angelatc

10-22-2009, 11:53 AM

Indeed, the white house must act, and rain fire and brimstone down upon all who question the Obama Administration. It's bad for the country to have a dissenting voice. All those on Foxnews are terrorists capable of the worst kind of hate speech, they must be silenced. The First amendment should not apply to such infidels...., er,.... people. It certainly is the governemetns role to silence the opposition.

All praise Lord Obama, King douche of the Universe, and his sycophantic followers stricken with stupidity. One day, the voices of dissent will be crushed forever! And only Hope and Change will remain!

I much prefer Ron Paul's approach. He talks to his enemies, and usually makes them look rather ridiculous.

angelatc

10-22-2009, 11:54 AM

I have to agree with this. Let's never forget what happened the night before the NH primary. These people are not on our side.

Besides, Fox is not conservative, it is merely partisan, as evidenced by the network's support of the Bush administration's big government agenda.

They pay John Stossel and Andrew Napolitano, too.

Stary Hickory

10-22-2009, 11:58 AM

selftaught- again, I'm not going to be on FOX's side. they suck, end of story. they ARE the enemy of america regardless of who says so. I understand your point

Then don't expect anyone to be on your side when they come after you. The white house already controls almost every other major media outlet there is yet the one remaining voice that might shed light on the shennanigans in DC is being atatcked because it has not fallen in line.

You seem to be just fine with all the mouthpieces for the administration, but detest FOX who,incidentally, has more Libertarian leanings than all the other networks combined. And FOX has been adding to it's libertarian base steadily.

Yet you malign this network? There are some neoconish garbage on there, however they also have bunch of libertarian voices that are growing with every day. If there is any network I will watch it's FOX during certain time slots. There is a glimmer of hope on that network. At least you can find a real freedom message often enough being promoted on FOX, look to the radicalized leftist networks and there is nothing but sugar coated statism.

SelfTaught

10-22-2009, 11:58 AM

selftaught- again, I'm not going to be on FOX's side. they suck, end of story. they ARE the enemy of america regardless of who says so. I understand your point

No, you're right. Fox treated Ron Paul like shit. We should allow the government to censor Fox News because they are our enemy. And freedom of speech doesn't apply to our enemies. Sounds constitutional to me. I mean, Hugo Chavez did it, so it must be good. We should follow in the footsteps of Venezuela. Ahhhhhhh....smells like freedom.

Stary Hickory

10-22-2009, 12:00 PM

No, you're right. Fox treated Ron Paul like shit. We should allow the government to censor Fox News because they are our enemy. And freedom of speech doesn't apply to our enemies. Sounds constitutional to me. I mean, Hugo Chavez did it, so it must be good. We should follow in the footsteps of Venezuela. Ahhhhhhh....smells like freedom.

Exactly kill FOX but leave the other Leftist networks alone who would have readily embraced Ron Paul...right?

If you find anything positive about Ron Paul on the leftist stations it's because Ron Paul represents a divide in the opposition to the left. It's part of the reason Ron Paul gets any kind of a fair deal on the leftist shows. Let him win the Republican nomination and watch what they do to him.

gls

10-22-2009, 12:02 PM

They pay John Stossel and Andrew Napolitano, too.

So they throw libertarians a couple of bones, giving Napolitano a webcast and Stossel a show on a channel that averages less than 20,000 viewers. I am not impressed.

Stary Hickory

10-22-2009, 12:06 PM

So they throw libertarians a couple of bones, giving Napolitano a webcast and Stossel a show on a channel that averages less than 20,000 viewers. I am not impressed.

Beck is also a strong libertarian leaning guy who has even recently renounced the neocon warmongering....but you leave him out. Even though by all accounts he is becoming a good solid libertarian.

gls

10-22-2009, 12:10 PM

Beck is also a strong libertarian leaning guy who has even recently renounced the neocon warmongering....but you leave him out. Even though by all accounts he is becoming a good solid libertarian.

Well that's because even when he is right I find Beck to be an embarassing clown who is no help to the freedom movement. I doubt I'm the only one.

Dieseler

10-22-2009, 12:13 PM

Just another Partisan Hack.
Grayson, that is.

WClint

10-22-2009, 12:14 PM

So they throw libertarians a couple of bones, giving Napolitano a webcast and Stossel a show on a channel that averages less than 20,000 viewers. I am not impressed.
:mad:
So you rather they have at it, calling the tea party protesters racists, "tea baggers". A media that tries to claim that calling some "socialist is the new N word. A media that "FACT CHECKS" a SNL skit.
YouTube - The Rachel Maddow Show: Insani-Tea: Conservatives Rally Around "Teabagging" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLsKt4O4Yw8)
YouTube - Teabagging Tantrums (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19jfGsvk40A&feature=related)
YouTube - Who Wants To Go To A Republican Tea-Bag Party? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_rwLSWjq7g&feature=fvw)
YouTube - Janeane Garofalo vs Tea Baggers from Greta Van Susteren (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU_mMwCNl0M)
YouTube - MEDIA FAIL: MSNBC Implies the Word Socialist is Code For The N Word (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwb5v8bM2JY)
YouTube - CNN's "SNL" Fact-Check: "Dumbest Thing Of The Week!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctemdjJVfg4)

Or would you rather someone like Glen Beck was actually able to get ride of some of Obamas commies IE Van Jones.
YouTube - Glenn Beck exposes Color of Change co-founder Van Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOgmwyfKuL8)

JK/SEA

10-22-2009, 12:15 PM

This is all very disturbing, and is not a good sign. Short term memory loss is the culprit.

Whatever happened to the attitude of..''i may not agree with you, but i will defend to the death your right to say it''

angelatc

10-22-2009, 12:17 PM

Flash

10-22-2009, 12:35 PM

Exactly this ought to alarm anyoen who claims to support free speech. A government offical calling a FREE MARKET news station an enemy to America.

If this is not straight out of the text book of Stalin or statist dicators I don't know what is. He essentially is calling anyone who voice opinions other than those sprouted by the government controlled MSNBC, CBS, CNN and so on as enemies of America. By extension that means anyone who values FOX news as a news source is also categorized as an enemey of America.

I want Grayson out of office. His position on the FED is convienient but this statist garbage he is spewing is dangerous.

Agreed. I hope the Republican who is challenging him is successful.

mconder

10-22-2009, 12:39 PM

The Republican will keep slipping in the polls too until they adopt our message and proudly admit to being the party of no more government, but yes to freedom.

lester1/2jr

10-22-2009, 01:26 PM

self taught-how is he or obama censoring FOX news?

he's just saying they suck, which they do. they are a bad news organization

alan grayson has a right to say FOX sucks

they are libertarian on some stuff but not war, which is my #1 issue. it's easy to be libertarian on like lower taxes. that's just old GOP rhetoric pushed up slightly more to the front

stary hickory
The white house already controls almost every other major media outlet there is yet the one remaining voice that might shed light on the shennanigans in DC is being atatcked because it has not fallen in line.

I watch CNBC and I would not say the obama adminstration controls them. they are doing an unbelievably bad job if they are.

Flash

10-22-2009, 01:28 PM

self taught= how is he or obama censoring FOX news?

he's just saying they suck, which they do. they are a bad news organization

alan grayson has a right to say FOX sucks

But he didn't say this. He said Fox News was an enemy to America. Why? Because they have a different political opinion than MSNBC, CNN, & ABC?

Live_Free_Or_Die

10-22-2009, 01:29 PM

lester1/2jr

10-22-2009, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by mconder
The Republican will keep slipping in the polls too until they adopt our message and proudly admit to being the party of no more government, but yes to freedom.

Pretty much. And it will require more than just giving it lip service.

it's never really gonna happen. they are basically seeing how much red meat they have to throw the rabble in order to get 51% same as always.

believe me Mitt Romney is piecing his new philosophy on life/ who he always really was together very carefully for 2012 to make sure it doens't piss off any powerful people

angelatc

10-22-2009, 01:48 PM

it's never really gonna happen. they are basically seeing how much red meat they have to throw the rabble in order to get 51% same as always.

If you're paying any attention at all, you'll see that the NY23 race is a battle between the GOP and the conservatives. Sadly we don't have a dog in it, but at least we share some things with the conservatives supporting Hoffman.

How do you plan on taking back the country? Hanging around and wait for everybody to realize you're right? That's not going to happen.

You're right - there's nothing shameful about 51%. It wins elections. Standing on the sidelines crabbing about how unfair the media and politics is won't, especially if you're willing to let the far left control all the media outlets.

CountryboyRonPaul

10-22-2009, 01:51 PM

I know FOX has been trying to play like the administration is trying to shut them down.

Of course we have to stand up for free speech.

But I won't argue that fox is not the enemy of liberty, or America.

IMO They, CNN, MSNBC, and all the other snakes that seek to pit us against each other are our enemies.

But even our enemies are of course entitled to freedom of speech.

What I'd really like to see is how exactly they are trying to kill FOX.

angelatc

10-22-2009, 01:54 PM

What I'd really like to see is how exactly they are trying to kill FOX.

I'm guessing you haven't read "Rules For Radicals?"

YumYum

10-22-2009, 01:55 PM

Grayson is so fucking lame, he sounds hysterical saying crap like that.

He is not as hysterical as Hannity and O'Reilly.

Dieseler

10-22-2009, 01:56 PM

He is not as hysterical as Hannity and O'Reilly.

Just as unreliable.

CountryboyRonPaul

10-22-2009, 01:58 PM

I'm guessing you haven't read "Rules For Radicals?"

Nope

Is there any specific legislation?

All I really see is verbal attacks from Democrats...

The same polarization game that's been played by the establishment as long as I remember.

RevolutionSD

10-22-2009, 02:00 PM

This is just more propaganda trying to keep people in the ridiculous left/right paradigm and keep the neocons thinking that Fox news is "alternative" and gives people the truth. Nothing to see here, move along now.

Deborah K

10-22-2009, 02:09 PM

This should be interesting. Grayson claims that 99% of the people know better and yet ALL of the other cable news networks combined don't have the ratings of even one program on Fox. How does that work?

I haven't forgotten what they did to Ron Paul, but when the gov't sees fit to interfere with 1st amendment rights of free press, then one must take stock of the fact that the handwriting is now on the wall. This is just another tactic to create more division between Americans, and I am starting to think they put Obama in for the very same reason - to create division.

Reminder that today Congress is talking about Net Neutrality - again. We are about to lose freedom of information on the net. And Obama has just given the OK for research into the "health" of gun owners.

I'm telling you, the handwriting is on the wall.

Feenix566

10-22-2009, 02:09 PM

Athan

10-22-2009, 02:11 PM

I wouldn't get to caught up in defending the people that shut us out a year ago.

I can't really defend faux news either.

Deborah K

10-22-2009, 02:12 PM

Greyson's entitled to his opinion. Fox News is pretty wrong on a lot of issues, so I can't say I blame him.

No one is proposing a bill to shut down Fox News for being wrong. So you can all get your panties out of a wad and simmer down now.

Really? Look up Mark Lloyd. Obama's FCC Czar. Here's a quote:

"It should be clear by now that my focus here is not freedom of speech or the press. This freedom is all too often an exaggeration. At the very least, blind references to freedom of speech or the press serve as a distraction from the critical examination of other communications policies.

"[T]he purpose of free speech is warped to protect global corporations and block rules that would promote democratic governance."

klamath

10-22-2009, 02:16 PM

Nope

Is there any specific legislation?

All I really see is verbal attacks from Democrats...

The same polarization game that's been played by the establishment as long as I remember.
I wouldn't get caught up in supporting Grayson either. He is no friend of liberty.

YumYum

10-22-2009, 02:21 PM

Beck is also a strong libertarian leaning guy who has even recently renounced the neocon warmongering....but you leave him out. Even though by all accounts he is becoming a good solid libertarian.

Beck is an Israel Firster, he is not a Libertarian. Saying that Beck is "a strong libertarian leaning guy" is like saying that Joseph Goebbels was a Zionist leaning German.