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Rael
10-20-2009, 07:14 PM
The Bill Nobody Noticed: National DNA Databank


Source: Natural News

In April of 2008, President Bush signed into law S.1858 which allows the federal government to screen the DNA of all newborn babies in the U.S. This was to be implemented within 6 months meaning that this collection is now being carried out. Congressman Ron Paul states that this bill is the first step towards the establishment of a national DNA database.

S.1858, known as The Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2007, is justified as a "national contingency plan" in that it represents preparation for any sort of public health emergency. The bill states that the federal government should "continue to carry out, coordinate, and expand research in newborn screening" and "maintain a central clearinghouse of current information on newborn screening... ensuring that the clearinghouse is available on the Internet and is updated at least quarterly". Sections of the bill also make it clear that DNA may be used in genetic experiments and tests. Read the full bill: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bil...

Twila Brase, president of the Citizens' Council on Health Care warns that this new law represents the beginning of nationwide genetic testing. Brase states that S.1858 and H.R. 3825, the House version of the bill, will:
• Establish a national list of genetic conditions for which newborns and children are to be tested.
• Establish protocols for the linking and sharing of genetic test results nationwide.
• Build surveillance systems for tracking the health status and health outcomes of individuals diagnosed at birth with a genetic defect or trait.
• Use the newborn screening program as an opportunity for government agencies to identify, list, and study "secondary conditions" of individuals and their families.
• Subject citizens to genetic research without their knowledge or consent.
Read her entire analysis of the implications of this bill here: http://www.cchconline.org/pdf/S_185...

Brase states that under this bill, "The DNA taken at birth from every citizen is essentially owned by the government, and every citizen becomes a potential subject of government-sponsored genetic research." All 50 states are now routinely providing results of genetic screenings to the Department of Homeland Security and this bill will establish the legality of that practice plus include DNA.

Ron Paul has also vigorously argued against this bill making the following comments before the US House of Representatives:
"I cannot support legislation...that exceeds the Constitutional limitations on federal power or in any way threatens the liberty of the American people. I must oppose it."

"S. 1858 gives the federal bureaucracy the authority to develop a model newborn screening program. Madame Speaker, the federal government lacks both the constitutional authority and the competence to develop a newborn screening program adequate for a nation as large and diverse as the United States. …"

"Those of us in the medical profession should be particularly concerned about policies allowing government officials and state-favored interests to access our medical records without our consent … My review of S. 1858 indicates the drafters of the legislation made no effort to ensure these newborn screening programs do not violate the privacy rights of parents and children, in fact, by directing federal bureaucrats to create a contingency plan for newborn screening in the event of a 'public health' disaster, this bill may lead to further erosions of medical privacy. As recent history so eloquently illustrates, politicians are more than willing to take, and people are more than willing to cede, liberty during times of 'emergency."

Matt Collins
10-20-2009, 07:34 PM
Check out HR 3174 sometime.

Danke
10-20-2009, 07:41 PM
Twila Brase and I were delegates in the same ward here in MN. She has been fighting this hard.

Bruno
10-20-2009, 07:48 PM
much like the Patriot Act, "The Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2007"

Who could vote against a bill with a name like that? :rolleyes: :mad:

How do you opt out?

pcosmar
10-20-2009, 07:58 PM
My DNA has been on file for years, You all will catch up soon. :(

Rael
10-20-2009, 08:07 PM
My DNA has been on file for years, You all will catch up soon. :(

I give up. What did you do?

pcosmar
10-20-2009, 08:12 PM
I give up. What did you do?

I was arrested. :p

Several years ago, anyone convicted of any thing had DNA sampled and filed.
Everyone, for ANY thing.

coyote_sprit
10-20-2009, 08:14 PM
He had buttsecks with a gay prostitute in broad daylight and until he tells us the whole truth that's my story. Really though if you want to know it just go grab his public SS# and trace that and then do a criminal background check on the name.

pcosmar
10-20-2009, 08:17 PM
He had buttsecks with a gay prostitute in broad daylight and until he tells us the whole truth that's my story. Really though if you want to know it just go grab his public SS# and trace that and then do a criminal background check on the name.

It's really not that hard to do,
Well except the stuff that is mysteriously missing form my background checks.
That is weird.

coyote_sprit
10-20-2009, 08:19 PM
It's really not that hard to do,
Well except the stuff that is mysteriously missing form my background checks.
That is weird.

I found 3 crimes committed by a Peter C Osmar who was born in 1957, could probably find more but I'm not going to pay money for that type of shit.

pcosmar
10-20-2009, 08:23 PM
I found 3 crimes committed by a Peter C Osmar who was born in 1957, could probably find more but I'm not going to pay money for that type of shit.

Which 3 ?
My last background Check came back missing my original conviction.

I am long past it, and am honest with all who know me. I have not posted it because some think I am bragging. Not the case.
I did my time, and have lived my life trying to get past it.

coyote_sprit
10-20-2009, 08:24 PM
http://www.criminalsearches.com/summary.aspx?input=name&fn=peter&ln=osmar&city=&state=&zip=

It's not particularly comprehensive cause that shit costs money.

pcosmar
10-20-2009, 08:27 PM
http://www.criminalsearches.com/summary.aspx?input=name&fn=peter&ln=osmar&city=&state=&zip=

It's not particularly comprehensive cause that shit costs money.

Ah, interesting. I had posted my last checks online.
http://pcosmar.blogspot.com/2009/08/employment-woes.html
http://pcosmar.blogspot.com/2009/08/update-background-check.html

But they didn't show the Bank robberies ;).

Still don't know what that has to do with DNA.

Rael
10-20-2009, 08:28 PM
Which 3 ?


I am long past it, and am honest with all who know me. I have not posted it because some think I am bragging. Not the case.


Are you D.B. Cooper?

pcosmar
10-20-2009, 08:29 PM
Are you D.B. Cooper?

Not.
He never got caught.

Rael
10-20-2009, 08:33 PM
Not.
He never got caught.

Ok I see the thing about the robberies and domestic thing. Was it a bank that you robbed?

Danke
10-20-2009, 08:35 PM
So what ever happen to all those girls when they closed down your house of ill repute?

coyote_sprit
10-20-2009, 08:37 PM
So what ever happen to all those girls when they closed down your house of ill repute?

They went back to their families in Korea.

pcosmar
10-20-2009, 08:41 PM
Ok I see the thing about the robberies and domestic thing. Was it a bank that you robbed?

This is derailing this thread, not my intention.
3 counts of Armed Robbery, 25 years on each count. run concurrently.
I plead guilty voluntarily without a plea bargain.

But DNA is taken from anyone that is convicted for any offense.
selling a bag of weed, writing a bad check. Buying a car from a dirty car dealer.
Anything.
That would put several million citizens in the data base already.

Rael
10-20-2009, 08:47 PM
This is derailing this thread, not my intention.
3 counts of Armed Robbery, 25 years on each count. run concurrently.
I plead guilty voluntarily without a plea bargain.



It sucks how a record follows you around forever. Stuff like that should come off your record at some point. Like bad credit entries. Everyone deserves a second chance. Except serial killers.

coyote_sprit
10-20-2009, 08:49 PM
It sucks how a record follows you around forever. Stuff like that should come off your record at some point. Like bad credit entries. Everyone deserves a second chance. Except serial killers.

Murderers in general don't deserve a second chance, neither do rapists.

pcosmar
10-20-2009, 09:03 PM
Murderers in general don't deserve a second chance, neither do rapists.

That is quite a blanket statement.
I knew an honest man that shot his wife's rapist, and another that shot a man that was beating him with a tire iron. Both convicted of murder.

And though I seriously hate rape, I have known some convicted on that charge whose guilt is questionable.

I hate the corrupt system mostly.

coyote_sprit
10-20-2009, 09:05 PM
That is quite a blanket statement.
I knew an honest man that shot his wife's rapist, and another that shot a man that was beating him with a tire iron. Both convicted of murder.
Murdering and killing someone are quite different in my eyes.


And though I seriously hate rape, I have known some convicted on that charge whose guilt is questionable.

I don't believe someone should be convicted unless there is hard evidence(Not witness testimony, etc) that they did the crime they are being accused of.

pcosmar
10-20-2009, 09:13 PM
Murdering and killing someone are quite different in my eyes.
Mine to, but not always the courts. There is a thing called "Justifiable Homicide" but it is seldom used.
The charge is still murder.



I don't believe someone should be convicted unless there is hard evidence(Not witness testimony, etc) that they did the crime they are being accused of.

In a perfect, or even just world that would be the case.
There are quite a lot of people in prison that do not belong there.

I had no bitch on my case, I was stupid. But I met many that really should not have been there.

Rael
10-20-2009, 09:16 PM
Mine to, but not always the courts. There is a thing called "Justifiable Homicide" but it is seldom used.
The charge is still murder.



In a perfect, or even just world that would be the case.
There are quite a lot of people in prison that do not belong there.

I had no bitch on my case, I was stupid. But I met many that really should not have been there.

How long were you actually there?

pcosmar
10-20-2009, 09:25 PM
How long were you actually there?

3 1/2 years in Maximum security, by God's good grace I was transferred to a Medium for a few years then to Minimum. and on to work release then a halfway house. The rest on parole.