CNN wants to hear from CFL members about Lindsey Graham's attack

[Matt Collins]

From CFL President John Tate

CNN has shared with my staff that they want to hear from you on this issue. Contact The Situation Room and let them know you think (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/3494696:4991753396:m:1:170934541:4C4A4945400C7F4C1 5DE4313EADFD19C) neoconservatism has had its day and it is time for our elected officials to stick to the Constitution.

Do it TONIGHT!!!

[Matt Collins]

This is in regards to:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=214632

[Matt Collins]

First they ignore you (done), then they laugh at you (done), then they attack you (done).....

[zach]

Day by day, our lives get more interesting.

[rawful]

So it should be negative since we're disagreeing with Graham?

[Matt Collins]

So it should be negative since we're disagreeing with Graham?
I think so. Remember CNN likes to see Republicans attacking each other.

[qh4dotcom]

Ron Paul and his supporters are to blame that Graham is in the Senate right now. Very few Ron Paul supporters (myself included) sent donations to his pro-Ron-Paul opponent Bob Conley in last year's elections...Graham received millions in campaign contributions while Conley was almost broke...even with the lack of donations Conley managed to get 42% of the vote.

Bob Conley should have received an endorsement from RP and there should have been a money bomb for him. With an endorsement from RP and hundreds of thousands in donations like BJ Lawson received Conley could have beat Graham....now we are stuck for the next 6 years hearing Graham's trash talk. It's obvious that Graham now has a grudge against Ron Paul supporters because he sure hasn't forgotten that it was a Ron Paul supporter who had the nerve and dared to take away his precious Senate seat last year.

[Matt Collins]

Ron Paul and his supporters are to blame that Graham is in the Senate right now. Very few Ron Paul supporters (myself included) sent donations to his pro-Ron-Paul opponent Bob Conley in last year's elections...Graham received millions in campaign contributions while Conley was almost broke...even with the lack of donations Conley managed to get 42% of the vote.

Bob Conley should have received an endorsement from RP and there should have been a money bomb for him. With an endorsement from RP and hundreds of thousands in donations like BJ Lawson received Conley could have beat Graham....now we are stuck for the next 6 years hearing Graham's trash talk. It's obvious that Graham now has a grudge against Ron Paul supporters because he sure hasn't forgotten that it was a Ron Paul supporter who had the nerve and dared to take away his precious Senate seat last year.
Unlikely. It's practically impossible to beat an incumbent.

[RonneJJones]

I refuse to be a source of content for the media's eating machine. CNN can go F'! themselves.

[qh4dotcom]

Unlikely. It's practically impossible to beat an incumbent.

even with the lack of donations Conley managed to get 42% of the vote...you think a money bomb and an RP endorsement wouldn't have gotten him the extra 9% he needed to defeat Graham?

Also several incumbents got the boot last year. I recall that out of all the liberty candidates last year, Conley got the most number of votes and the highest percentage....so he had the best shot to win.

[Matt Collins]

even with the lack of donations Conley managed to get 42% of the vote...you think a money bomb and an RP endorsement wouldn't have gotten him the extra 9% he needed to defeat Graham?

Also several incumbents got the boot last year. I recall that out of all the liberty candidates last year, Conley got the most number of votes and the highest percentage....so he had the best shot to win.
If we had put out a full court press, maybe it would've been possible, but I still doubt it.

[qh4dotcom]

If we had put out a full court press, maybe it would've been possible, but I still doubt it.

Come on Matt, regardless of whether or not Conley had a chance to win...there still should have been an RP endorsement and a money bomb

Peter Schiff is now polling 1-2% and he gets an RP endorsement and a money bomb...BJ Lawson was polling 31% last year and he got an RP endorsement and a money bomb...Bob Conley was polling 41% last year...and he got no money bomb and no RP endorsement...see something wrong here?

[SimpleName]

I think so. Remember CNN likes to see Republicans attacking each other.

The heart of the issue. They just want to divide everyone who isn't promoting socialism. This proves they have purposely ignored us before.

[Matt Collins]

The heart of the issue. They just want to divide everyone who isn't promoting socialism. This proves they have purposely ignored us before.
Well, they also realize that RP is a hot topic these days.

[Matt Collins]

Come on Matt, regardless of whether or not Conley had a chance to win...there still should have been an RP endorsement and a money bomb

Peter Schiff is now polling 1-2% and he gets an RP endorsement and a money bomb...BJ Lawson was polling 31% last year and he got an RP endorsement and a money bomb...Bob Conley was polling 41% last year...and he got no money bomb and no RP endorsement...see something wrong here?Why not put resources on the low hanging fruit instead?

[LibertyEagle]

Ron Paul and his supporters are to blame that Graham is in the Senate right now. Very few Ron Paul supporters (myself included) sent donations to his pro-Ron-Paul opponent Bob Conley in last year's elections...Graham received millions in campaign contributions while Conley was almost broke...even with the lack of donations Conley managed to get 42% of the vote.

Bob Conley should have received an endorsement from RP and there should have been a money bomb for him. With an endorsement from RP and hundreds of thousands in donations like BJ Lawson received Conley could have beat Graham....now we are stuck for the next 6 years hearing Graham's trash talk. It's obvious that Graham now has a grudge against Ron Paul supporters because he sure hasn't forgotten that it was a Ron Paul supporter who had the nerve and dared to take away his precious Senate seat last year.

I don't think Ron Paul CAN endorse someone who is running against an incumbent Republican, if he wants to keep his ranking in the committees he serves on in the House.

Sucks, huh? :(

[jmdrake]

My comment:


I want to thank you for having Ron Paul on to respond to Lindsey Graham's short sighted, self serving attacks on Ron Paul that go against the interests and principles of the GOP. On the one hand Graham says he wants to "expand the party". On the other hand he attacks Ron Paul. Does he not know that the Ron Paul wing is the fastest growing part of the GOP? It has the broadest outreach to young people, the largest internet presence, and the greatest growth among minorities. I myself am African American. So I'm FLOORED by the suggestion that somehow Ron Paul only appeals to "angry white men". African Americans are still angry about being lied into war, a war that Ron Paul voted against and Lindsey Graham voted for. Compromising with the democrats on "cap and trade" or healthcare is NOT going to bring minorities into the GOP. In fact many African Americans are skeptical about global warming and rightly see "cap and trade" as "Robin Hood in reverse". (Taking from the poor throw carbon taxes and giving to the rich through carbon credits). I voted republican for the first time in my life when I voted for Ron Paul. I would NEVER vote for someone like Lindsey Graham. He represents the worst of both parties.

[jmdrake]

I think so. Remember CNN likes to see Republicans attacking each other.

I wasn't sure so I chose "positive" to thank them for agreeing to have Ron Paul on to respond.

[jmdrake]

even with the lack of donations Conley managed to get 42% of the vote...you think a money bomb and an RP endorsement wouldn't have gotten him the extra 9% he needed to defeat Graham?

Also several incumbents got the boot last year. I recall that out of all the liberty candidates last year, Conley got the most number of votes and the highest percentage....so he had the best shot to win.

Wow! I wasn't aware of this. Ran across this from Wikipedia.

After Bob Conley beat Cone in the primary he went on to compete against incumbent Republican senator Lindsey Graham. Conley's campaign followed his mantra of fiscal conservatism spending only $15,202 for 42.25% of the vote on November 5 to Graham's $6,596,229 for 57.53%

[Ethek]

Here is my planned response.. I'd like to make it a little more pointed

To quote Rep. Paul, government is force not reason. Party players like Senator Graham love to debate the issues, they distract from the transcending question, does the Constitution allow federal government involvement with those issues in the first place? The Constitution is meant to restrain the power and scope of government force into people lives. My restraint from protesting at town halls will be no less than the rule of law and the Constitution have been able to restrain the shameless pandering of either party.

I am the exact type of person Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell can expect to show up at his town halls. I am also one of many voting reasons why Ron's son Dr. Rand Paul could well be the next Republican U.S. Senator from Kentucky, much to the chagrin of the Republican Party establishment I am sure.

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[jmdrake]

I don't think Ron Paul CAN endorse someone who is running against an incumbent Republican, if he wants to keep his ranking in the committees he serves on in the House.

Sucks, huh? :(

Well while McCain wasn't an "incumbent president", the same principle applies and Ron did still hold onto his ranking. Of course he didn't endorse the democrat so that could be the differentiating factor.

This brings me back to something I've thought about for a while. Is the best strategy to put all our eggs in the GOP basket? This message transcends party lines. And sure, there are limits to how far Ron Paul can reach across, but there's no reason why the grassroots couldn't decide on its own to moneybomb for worthy democrats. For me it would require a pledge from them upfront that they won't support government expansion, higher taxes, erosion of civil liberties and an expansive foreign policy.

[qh4dotcom]

I don't think Ron Paul CAN endorse someone who is running against an incumbent Republican, if he wants to keep his ranking in the committees he serves on in the House.

Sucks, huh? :(

He could have talked about Bob Conley without endorsing him....folks would have gotten the hint and became aware that Bob Conley existed. Most RP supporters didn't know a Ron Paul liberty minded individual was running for Senate against Graham...Two of them just confessed on this thread.

[jmdrake]

He could have talked about Bob Conley without endorsing him....folks would have gotten the hint and became aware that Bob Conley existed. Most RP supporters didn't know a Ron Paul liberty minded individual was running for Senate against Graham...Two of them just confessed on this thread.

That's true. And he could have been given a speaking spot at the rally for liberty. After all Jesse Ventura got one and that didn't mean Paul is a "truther". Maybe we could start a grassroots organization called "Democrats for Liberty" that highlights freedom minded individuals in the other party?

[Chieftain1776]

That's true. And he could have been given a speaking spot at the rally for liberty. After all Jesse Ventura got one and that didn't mean Paul is a "truther". Maybe we could start a grassroots organization called "Democrats for Liberty" that highlights freedom minded individuals in the other party?

http://freedomdemocrats.org/

They're really good on all the issues from what I've read but don't know how influential they are as of yet.

[Chieftain1776]

Also The neocons don't care about party. From the pages of Weekly Standard no less than Bill Kristol said (http://www.antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=2371):


"I will take Bush over Kerry, but Kerry over Buchanan....If you read the last few issues of The Weekly Standard, it has as much or more in common with the liberal hawks than with traditional conservatives." and this to the New York Times:


If we have to make common cause with the more hawkish liberals and fight the conservatives, that is fine with me,"

If Kristol can say that and appear on Fox's "Special Report" daily and have Weekly Standard advertised on Fox then even Fox News doesn't care about the GOP per se.

Another thing. The GOP needs to know that we'll stay home or actively oppose them if they don't follow through on small government. That's why I think the small band of radical neocons have disporportionate influence: they threaten to switch sides.

[tmosley]

My comment:


I want to thank you for having Ron Paul on to respond to Lindsey Graham's short sighted, self serving attacks on Ron Paul that go against the interests and principles of the GOP. On the one hand Graham says he wants to "expand the party". On the other hand he attacks Ron Paul. Does he not know that the Ron Paul wing is the fastest growing part of the GOP? It has the broadest outreach to young people, the largest internet presence, and the greatest growth among minorities. I myself am African American. So I'm FLOORED by the suggestion that somehow Ron Paul only appeals to "angry white men". African Americans are still angry about being lied into war, a war that Ron Paul voted against and Lindsey Graham voted for. Compromising with the democrats on "cap and trade" or healthcare is NOT going to bring minorities into the GOP. In fact many African Americans are skeptical about global warming and rightly see "cap and trade" as "Robin Hood in reverse". (Taking from the poor throw carbon taxes and giving to the rich through carbon credits). I voted republican for the first time in my life when I voted for Ron Paul. I would NEVER vote for someone like Lindsey Graham. He represents the worst of both parties.

That is damn inspiring.

I doubt if it will see the light of day :(