Democrats face uphill climb on immigration

[bobbyw24]

Democrats face uphill climb on immigration
By Jared Allen - 10/14/09 06:04 AM ET

A small cadre of Democrats on Tuesday continued to push Congress to take up a major immigration reform bill even though the issue has all but evaporated from the majority’s agenda.

At an afternoon rally in front of the Capitol, Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), the chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus’s immigration task force, said an immigration overhaul is long overdue.

“We simply cannot wait any longer for a bill that keeps our families together, protects our workers and allows a pathway to legalization for those who have earned it,” Gutierrez said.


Hopes for action on legislation to create a pathway to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants have steadily eroded since President Barack


Obama twice delayed a White House immigration summit and his attention became all but monopolized on healthcare reform.
Gutierrez, who has questioned Obama’s commitment to the issue, on Tuesday said: “It is time we had a workable plan making its way through Congress that recognizes the vast contributions of immigrants to this country and that honors the American Dream.”

At the same time, however, even Gutierrez has yet to introduce a bill.

The Illinois Democrat has been intent on including as many Republican-friendly provisions as he can swallow in order to attract some GOP support, and the plan he outlined on Tuesday includes provisions for enhancing border security and employment verification systems, both of which he said will reduce illegal immigration.

But it remains unclear whether any Republicans will step out to support immigration reform after a 2007 bipartisan effort collapsed under the stress of conservative criticism.

While the issue no longer dominates the conservative airwaves, it remains a political lightning rod for many on the right. The now-infamous “You lie!” outburst of Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) came in response to Obama’s pledge that no illegal immigrants will be covered under the government-funded portion of his healthcare plan.

For the time being, Democrats seem to be the more immovable obstacle.

Democratic Caucus Vice Chairman Xavier Becerra (Calif.), the only Hispanic member of the House leadership team, said the urgency for immigration reform hasn’t subsided, but acknowledged that it has been overshadowed by more pressing matters.

“There’s a daily urgency,” Becerra said. “The stories continue to come out about children

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/62961-democrats-face-uphill-climb-on-immigration

[Dunedain]

There is a huge steady stream of 3rd world immigrants pouring into the U.S. on a daily basis. Not talking about it plays into the hands of those who want to see the demographic genocide of the existing population as we are forced to support them more everyday while they have welfare babies like mad.

Now they will all get free health care. It's a fact. Illegal immigrants will be exempt from having to pay any health care mandates under the bills proposed...they will continue to bankrupt hospitals wherever they exist in large numbers and deplete the resources of the nation...in return we get our animals slaughtered at industrial meat-manufactures nice and cheap and our peaches picked.

[Lord Xar]

Swaths of Europe are loosing itself to illegal and legal immigration. I believe thru a deliberate saturation of the host countries culture will lend itself to a more globalistic agenda. Saturate the cutlure, saturate the nationalism, saturate the pride, and what do you get... a watered down resistence who doesn't have the strength to fight a back alley brawl. Third wolrd people with open arms for their elite saviours. When you import everyone elses' problem, you achieve two goals. Continued destruction of native country and saturation & intent to destroy new host country. Soon, what will be left. Complacent, ineffectual voters - serfs, to do the globalists bidding.

[bobbyw24]

There is a huge steady stream of 3rd world immigrants pouring into the U.S. on a daily basis.

This will be the death of the GOP forever

[Lord Xar]

This will be the death of the GOP forever

Of course. But we can blame Bush for starting this trend. He could have done SOO Much for border enforcement and such, he did nothing.

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Zogby Survey Reveals that Amnesty Would Increase Illegal Immigration from Mexico

Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 12:57 PM EDT

A new survey conducted by Zogby International reveals that 56 percent of Mexicans believe that someone they know would try entering the United States illegally if the country was to offer legal status to illegal aliens. Yesterday, Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) offered an outline for a mass amnesty plan.

Here are the survey's major points:

* A clear majority of people in Mexico, 56 percent, thought giving legal status to illegal aliens in the United States would make it more likely that people they know would go to the United States illegally. Just 17 percent thought it would make Mexicans less likely to go illegally. The rest were unsure or thought it would make no difference.
* Of Mexicans with a member of their immediate household in the United States, 65 percent said a legalization program would make people they know more likely to go to America illegally.
* Two-thirds of Mexicans know someone living in the United States; one-third said an immediate member of their household was living in the United States.
* Interest in going to the United States remains strong even in the current recession, with 36 percent of Mexicans (39 million people) saying they would move to the United States if they could. This is consistent with a recent Pew Research Center poll which found that about one-third of Mexicans would go to the United States if they could. At present, 12 to 13 million Mexico-born people live in the United States.
* An overwhelming majority (69 percent) thought that the primary loyalty of Mexican-Americans (Mexico- and U.S.-born) should be to Mexico. Just 20 percent said it should be to the United States. The rest were unsure.
* Also, 69 percent of people in Mexico felt that the Mexican government should represent the interests of Mexican-Americans (Mexico- and U.S.-born) in the United States.
* A plurality, 39 percent, of Mexicans thought that in the last year fewer people they know had gone to the United States as illegal aliens compared to previous years. Only 27 percent thought more had gone. The rest thought it had stayed the same or were unsure.
* A plurality, 40 percent, also thought that in the last year more of the illegal aliens they know had returned to Mexico compared to previous years. Only 25 percent thought the number returning had fallen. The rest thought it had stayed the same or were unsure.
* Both the bad economy and increased immigration enforcement were cited as reasons fewer people were going to America as illegal aliens and more were coming back to Mexico.

[Dunedain]

This will be the death of the GOP forever

That's probably the only benefit of massive 3rd world immigration.

[bobbyw24]

Of course. But we can blame Bush for starting this trend. He could have done SOO Much for border enforcement and such, he did nothing.

You are correct

[Dunedain]

Swaths of Europe are loosing itself to illegal and legal immigration. I believe thru a deliberate saturation of the host countries culture will lend itself to a more globalistic agenda. Saturate the cutlure, saturate the nationalism, saturate the pride, and what do you get... a watered down resistence who doesn't have the strength to fight a back alley brawl. Third wolrd people with open arms for their elite saviours. When you import everyone elses' problem, you achieve two goals. Continued destruction of native country and saturation & intent to destroy new host country. Soon, what will be left. Complacent, ineffectual voters - serfs, to do the globalists bidding.

You've summed up the great plan of the zionist enemy. This is the second time they have attempted to take over the entire world (until communism failed) - and we are living to see them win battle after battle toward their goal with 3rd world immigration as their main thrust of attack. They are getting close to a totally subjugated world with Israel as the world's capital - the world court of mankind as one Israeli prime minister said. The only country with ethnic rule.

This has to be stopped. I'm not sure if the liberty movement is the correct vessel. maybe it will morph into something else as people within the movement (and without) wake up. For now, I don't see any other group with any momentum standing against this world takeover.