Tea parties turn against GOP leadership

[klamath]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28157.html

[catdd]

Good article, thanks.

[robertwerden]

This strategy should have been happening from the begining.

CALL OUT THE GOP NEOCONS and expose them for the frauds they are. Embarrass them publicly and campaign against them.

[Anti Federalist]

Erick Erickson, founder and editor of the influential conservative blog RedState, has urged Tea Party activists to “put down the protest signs” and stage takeovers of local Republican parties.

Coming from this guy, I'd be inclined to do just the opposite but I'm also inclined to think that street actions are not worthwhile, at the same time something has got these fuckers nervous.

[klamath]

This strategy should have been happening from the begining.

CALL OUT THE GOP NEOCONS and expose them for the frauds they are. Embarrass them publicly and campaign against them.

Yeaw I remember telling people on that restore the party website that we needed to vote out and if nothing else remove the bailout republicans from leadership positions. I was seeing red when some of the people came back with "we can't attack our own" Like hell we can't!

[1836er]

I was at the tea party at the Alamo in April and it was pretty apparent the visceral anger amongst the crowd toward the GOP was greater than the anger felt toward Obama and the Democrats. If I had to sum up the mood of the crowd in one phrase it would be...

"We want political leadership that will champion the opposite of what Obama and the Democrats want to do... not just less of it."

[Fr3shjive]

Good article, should've mentioned Rand/Ron Paul and Peter Schiff though.

Glad to see that people are realizing that the fight isnt with the Democrats but within the Republican party.

[anaconda]

Good article, should've mentioned Rand/Ron Paul and Peter Schiff though.

Glad to see that people are realizing that the fight isnt with the Democrats but within the Republican party.

I think it's intentional. This publicity is designed to help the establishment GOP co opt the tea party movement with change we can believe in. I want to puke.:(

[Promontorium]

I have none of my "own" in this world. They're all dead. They believed in the individual over all other things in this universe.

I might say, the Libertarians are close, even as they were a hellspawn of greater ideas, and took it upon themselves to remove morality from their political equation.

I might say, I'm with the Ron Paul supporters, us few who hang on, knowing simultaneously what is really happening in America, and believing it can be fixed.

Each tier more distant than the last. When it comes to just a regular Republican, I have little in common. I disagree with half the Republican platform, and the half that I actually agree with, is what they seem to have lost.

I want my own country. If I had the money, that would be my only goal in life. But for now, I'm stuck in the fish bowl.

If we could just put in a few representatives. If we could get even one senator. All of this would have been worth it.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

I have none of my "own" in this world. They're all dead. They believed in the individual over all other things in this universe.

I might say, the Libertarians are close, even as they were a hellspawn of greater ideas, and took it upon themselves to remove morality from their political equation.

I might say, I'm with the Ron Paul supporters, us few who hang on, knowing simultaneously what is really happening in America, and believing it can be fixed.

Each tier more distant than the last. When it comes to just a regular Republican, I have little in common. I disagree with half the Republican platform, and the half that I actually agree with, is what they seem to have lost.

I want my own country. If I had the money, that would be my only goal in life. But for now, I'm stuck in the fish bowl.

If we could just put in a few representatives. If we could get even one senator. All of this would have been worth it.

What? How have the Libertarians removed morality? Is it not the moral thing to not steal (Taxation)? Is it not the moral thing for people to have the right of Self-Determination? Is it not the moral thing to have an all voluntary governance? I'm confused. :confused:

[fj45lvr]

Yeaw I remember telling people on that restore the party website that we needed to vote out and if nothing else remove the bailout republicans from leadership positions. I was seeing red when some of the people came back with "we can't attack our own" Like hell we can't!


exactly...

I wrote then incumbent Republican senator Gordon Smith (ore) and told him that I hoped he lost his re-election due to voting for the THIEVING BAILOUTS.... He did. Good riddance...at least the commie wacko that replaced him isn't talking out of both sides of his mouth.

[Promontorium]

What? How have the Libertarians removed morality? Is it not the moral thing to not steal (Taxation)? Is it not the moral thing for people to have the right of Self-Determination? Is it not the moral thing to have an all voluntary governance? I'm confused. :confused:

I'm not talking about right now, I was referring to the creators of the Libertarian Party who developed it as an offshoot of Objectivism. I certainly don't mean to imply that any specific Libertarian is amoral, or immoral, the Party is also very rational.

Also I was very tired when I wrote that, nearly passing out mid sentence. So it may not be completely coherent.

[JoshLowry]

Come on, Politico is grade A status quo. This is the GOP putting up candidates that they approve of but want to make it seem like they are outsiders.

No mention of Rand, Schiff, or Paul because they are NOT an approved part of the machine. Plain and simple.

They use a RedState.com quote in this article. The same website that banned Ron Paul from their site in 2007?

Freedom Works and Dick Armey... Are you kidding me? Every person or org mentioned in that article is part of the GOPs tentacles.

Remember this video with Politico commentary?


For example, on the May 16 edition of CNN's American Morning, Politico executive editor Jim VandeHei said that "Rudy Giuliani came off terrific" during the debate, "mostly because he got that softball, where Ron Paul lobs it to him and basically blames the U.S. for the 9-11 attacks." In response to VandeHei, co-host John Roberts mimicked a baseball swing with his arms and said, "Ron Paul -- lob ball, and boom." VandeHei then concluded: "You dream of those moments when you're a candidate, that's for sure." Later in the program, Roberts said that Paul "did kind of stick his foot in it, though, when he suggested last night that it was U.S. intervention overseas that was responsible for the 9-11 attacks."

A May 16 Politico.com report (http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0507/4021.html) on the debate by Jonathan Martin mentioned the dispute between Paul and Giuliani and uncritically quoted Giuliani campaign manager Mike DuHaime's claim that Giuliani "is not going to sit there and let somebody say that [9-11] was our fault."

[Bucjason]

The majority of tea-party folks never were doing it for partisan purposes , they are tired of the government and politics as usual...PERIOD.

The lefties would have liked to dismiss this movement as nothing but sour grapes from the racists in the losing party , but they are now starting to see the truth. We are both parties worst nightmare...

[Galileo Galilei]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28157.html

This has 2458 comments on Politico!

Wow.

[Aratus]

ultimately, we know the debt grows daily, even if there is an upswing over the next two years....
there is no solid guarantee that barack obama has smooth sailing to his being re-elected in 2012! do
we tolerate a mike huckabee or sarah palin who seems to half listen over a mitt romney who sorta knows
the rEVOLUTIOn exists? surely many in the dear auld g.o.p know astro-turf when they see it... so are they all
happy and content to keep at politics as usual? i think the future has openings and oppertunities out of gridlock~itus.

[Dreamofunity]

What? How have the Libertarians removed morality? Is it not the moral thing to not steal (Taxation)? Is it not the moral thing for people to have the right of Self-Determination? Is it not the moral thing to have an all voluntary governance? I'm confused. :confused:

Don't you know?

Morality is based on opposing gay sex and masturbation using porn, oh and drugs.

(not in reference to Promo, since he explained himself, but to a typical republican)

[anaconda]

I was at the tea party at the Alamo in April and it was pretty apparent the visceral anger amongst the crowd toward the GOP was greater than the anger felt toward Obama and the Democrats. If I had to sum up the mood of the crowd in one phrase it would be...

"We want political leadership that will champion the opposite of what Obama and the Democrats want to do... not just less of it."

Well that's healthy and encouraging. I had thought previously that the majority of tea party people were pro status quo GOP. The type that buy into things like "The War on Terror" and think there should be amendments requiring Christian prayer in public schools and marriages between men and women only. And that the patriot act is Patriotic.

If your observations are correct, why isn't Ron Paul support, specifically, more apparent at the tea parties?

[xd9fan]

what the fuck made the GOP think we where in their camp


THEY NEED TO MOVE not us

its about liberty not party

[klamath]

Come on, Politico is grade A status quo. This is the GOP putting up candidates that they approve of but want to make it seem like they are outsiders.

No mention of Rand, Schiff, or Paul because they are NOT an approved part of the machine. Plain and simple.

They use a RedState.com quote in this article. The same website that banned Ron Paul from their site in 2007?

Freedom Works and Dick Armey... Are you kidding me? Every person or org mentioned in that article is part of the GOPs tentacles.

Remember this video with Politico commentary?
I don't blame you for not trusting Politico but the fact remains the there is a large segment of the population that is real mad at the Republicans of the last eight years and the present democrats. Politico may well be trying to channel this anger right back into the same type of leader of the past but the fact remains they are admitting there are some pissed off people something they wouldn't admit last year.