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angelatc
10-10-2009, 11:20 PM
Speaking of Michelle Malkin, she's got the scoop on this:

GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham has signed on to the Democrats’ massive green redistribution scheme masquerading as a planet-saving, national security-enhancing “energy independence” scheme. (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/11/what-did-i-tell-ya-lindsy-graham-signs-on-to-cap-and-tax/)

Politco:
Republican South Carolinian Senator Lindsay Graham publicly announced his support for climate legislation on Sunday, in an editorial co-authored with Massachusetts Democratic Sen. John Kerry.

"Our partnership represents a fresh attempt to find consensus that adheres to our core principles and leads to both a climate change solution and energy independence," wrote the two Senators in the New York Times on Sunday. "It begins now, not months from now — with a road to 60 votes in the Senate."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28158.html#ixzz0TbNH8HXq

lx43
10-10-2009, 11:26 PM
That son of a bitch is a sale out. I hate that the motherfucker even represents my state.

Excuse the language.

RSLudlum
10-10-2009, 11:28 PM
That son of a bitch is a sale out. I hate that the motherfucker even represents my state.

Excuse the language.

Ditto. Sounds like I have a few more calls and letters to send out. Maybe even an office visit.

lx43
10-10-2009, 11:29 PM
How in the hell do we get rid of these scumbags?

RSLudlum
10-10-2009, 11:34 PM
Make sure to call them out on their BS. Write letters to your local media, call any local radio shows and make their lives hell for the ignorant decisions they make or are proposing to make.

Austrian Econ Disciple
10-10-2009, 11:40 PM
Speaking of Michelle Malkin, she's got the scoop on this:

GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham has signed on to the Democrats’ massive green redistribution scheme masquerading as a planet-saving, national security-enhancing “energy independence” scheme. (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/11/what-did-i-tell-ya-lindsy-graham-signs-on-to-cap-and-tax/)

Politco:

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28158.html#ixzz0TbNH8HXq

What principles? :confused:

cheapseats
10-11-2009, 12:34 AM
Lindsey Graham is another Closet Queen.

lx43
10-11-2009, 11:04 PM
Its ashame we can't publicly hang these damn traitors.

angelatc
10-11-2009, 11:20 PM
Its ashame we can't publicly hang these damn traitors.

Tar and feathers are the new black!

squarepusher
10-11-2009, 11:25 PM
Lindsey Graham is another Closet Queen.

this

angelatc
10-11-2009, 11:26 PM
this

Pictures would sure be handy right now....

But yeah. That's why he's so keen on Crist, I'm sure.

Brian4Liberty
10-11-2009, 11:34 PM
Pictures would sure be handy right now....


Bill Crystal has the pics all locked up in a secret safe... :eek:

cheapseats
10-11-2009, 11:47 PM
Its ashame we can't publicly hang these damn traitors.
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http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/litwit/Guillotine3.jpg
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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."
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-- Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 B.C. - 43 A.D., assassination)
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[For the record (cc: Minister of Acceptable Speech), I do not ADVOCATE violence. I advocate a restoration of Reason to governance. If those who lord over their fellows will not be reasonable, their fate is their own. The hostility between governor and governed, particularly insofar as I am not the cause of it, does NOT infringe on MY right to Free Speech. I will contend in the court of Public Opinion. Not in a Kangaroo Court. For obvious reasons.]

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dgr
10-12-2009, 12:54 AM
This is just the beginning, remember, Bush, Mccain and Dole were all for cap and trade.
Why the money to be made in trading the carbon offsets. There is no difference between a liberal democrat and a globalization republician.

bunklocoempire
10-12-2009, 03:19 AM
carbon credits and the dollar:

A worthless piece of paper to bolster the "worth" of another worthless piece of paper.

EDIT: It's what you do when you can't produce anything of real value.


Bunkloco

Brian4Liberty
10-12-2009, 11:44 AM
Once again, Cap and Trade is just another scam...


http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA585.html

Cap-and-Trade-Backing CEOs Should Learn from the Housing Bubble that the Pursuit of Liberal Policy Goals is Not a Sound Business Strategy

by Tom Borelli, Ph.D.

With President Obama and his allies in Congress pushing for a cap-and-trade regulatory policy to reduce greenhouse gases, the future of American energy is at a crossroads — and the creation of an economic “Green Bubble” may be in the works.

It’s not surprising that liberal politicians embrace the cap-and-trade cause, but to many it is shocking and surprising to see corporate CEOs joining the crusade. The 21st century business model of these CEOs seems to be: “If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em.”

But their capitulation is likely to lead to history repeating itself, and not in a good way.

If there’s one lesson we all can take from the housing bubble, it’s this: the pursuit of liberal policy goals is not a sustainable business strategy.

The housing crisis developed after businesses yielded to social activism and the seduction of politically-driven and unsustainable economic incentives. It started with the Community Reinvestment Act in the 1970s, which encouraged banks to lend in poor neighborhoods. The Clinton Administration later lowered credit standards, and set subprime lending quotas for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

ACORN, the leftist advocacy group, also pressured banks to make loans, and Congress skewed laws to promote homeownership at any cost.

With the game rigged to make unsound lending practices profitable over the short-term, Wall Street was happy to play in this government-constructed casino. For a time, it was a win-win situation. Profits were made, ACORN was pacified and lawmakers deemed lenders “responsible” for providing loans to low-income households with nary an eye cast to the soundness of it all.

But when the over-inflated housing market collapsed, all the fun came to a crashing halt.

Yet, like hard-core gambling addicts, some CEOs haven’t learned their lesson. Instead of returning to selling good products at market prices, they want to go back to the craps table. They’re lobbying Congress to create yet another “bubble” in which government regulatory policy creates artificial value in a ubiquitous gas, carbon dioxide.

Call this forthcoming disaster the “Green Bubble,” for it’s based on the notion that fortunes can be made buying and selling something for which there is no real-world market: greenhouse gas emissions credits.

In some ways, the Green Bubble is worse than the Housing Bubble because houses, unlike greenhouse gas emissions, have a real value. Making matters worse: taxpayers are being billed for its creation.

A new report by the Center for Public Integrity finds that over 2,000 lobbyists, including representatives of the financial industry, are pressing for the cap-and-trade scheme to create an artificial carbon emissions trading market that could reach an estimated $2 trillion in paper value.

According to the CPI study, lobbyists for Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase are involved. JPMorgan Chase got $25 billion in TARP money last fall, while Goldman Sachs obtained $10 billion. The stated purpose of the cash infusion was to recapitalize the banks so they could resume consumer lending.

By promoting cap-and-trade, Wall Street is once again betting it can profit from embracing left-wing politics. CEOs see an opportunity to garner praise for themselves as “socially responsible” businessmen while they profit from the sale of renewable energy products, such as wind turbines, and from the trading of carbon dioxide emission credits.

The taxpayer, the consumer and the stockholder will pay.

If cap and trade is adopted, whatever gains a few companies may make on investments in renewable energy or emissions trading will be paid for by the devastating effects of higher energy prices on the broader economy. And even these gains will vanish like the wind when cap-and-trade ends. That could happen the next time Congress switches parties, or simply when Congress becomes enchanted by the next new fad.

Tom Borelli is co-director of the Free Enterprise Project at The National Center for Public Policy Research.

cheapseats
10-12-2009, 11:50 AM
Once again, Cap and Trade is just another scam...

OF COURSE it is another scam. One has only to think though the INANITY of instigating Green-read-that-allegedly-environmental regulations which allow those who come in UNDER their pollution goals to sell their "credit" to over-polluters. I have a better idea, fine the over polluters -- have their Naughty Fees go into the U.S. Treasury rather than to their business associates and friends i.e. Cronies. Better yet, a moratorium on regulation until we round up the Bad Guys and throw their traitorous asses in prison.

It is bullshit on its face. The deeper you go, the worse it smells.

Cowlesy
10-12-2009, 11:53 AM
Cap'n Trade is the biggest BS scam --- I even have a 25page powerpoint presentation on how to profit off it.

Whenever you can devise a scheme through legislation that can touch, even just barely, the checkbook of every single American, you are going to make a few technocrats extraordinarily rich.

It is all about scale. If you can reach your hand into 100 million taxpayer pockets and shake them for even a small amount, you win in spades.

I will never forgive the Republicans who continuously elect Lindsey Graham.

Krugerrand
10-12-2009, 12:06 PM
btw ... even BBC is debunking global warming
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm

cheapseats
10-12-2009, 12:10 PM
btw ... even BBC is debunking global warming
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm

My brainiac brother-in-law with the Ph.D. in Environmental Engineering says it's ALL bullshit, not to say that conservation and recycling aren't wise.

Good enough for me to know that the urgency and profligacy of new regulation are ALL ABOUT MONEY. Follow the money, always.

By the by, Congress oughtta be required to demonstrate compliance.

purplechoe
10-12-2009, 04:05 PM
http://mikk2.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/vanity-fair-mccain-lieberman-graham3.jpg

cheapseats
10-12-2009, 04:07 PM
http://mikk2.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/vanity-fair-mccain-lieberman-graham3.jpg

Too disturbing, really.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/litwit/Eeewwwcopy.jpg

cheapseats
10-12-2009, 04:09 PM
http://mikk2.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/vanity-fair-mccain-lieberman-graham3.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/litwit/Eeewwwcopy.jpg

That these EXIST speaks volumes about widespread contempt for these quote-unquote leaders. But they are fazed not one whit. SO WHAT IF YOU DON'T LIKE ME OR WANT ME OR RESPECT ME, I STILL WANT TO BE IN OFFICE AND I STILL LIKE THE WAY I ROLL.

familydog
10-12-2009, 05:38 PM
Who cares? He'll keep getting re-elected.