"Obama could be ousted by a coup"

[yokna7]

From prisonplanet.com, but the original article appeared on Newsmax. It was quickly taken down though.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/former-white-house-speechwriter-suggests-military-coup-could-oust-obama.html

[JeNNiF00F00]

good god look at the comments on that article lolz

[rpfan2008]

It appears a section of the media is releasing sensational news-pieces, true or false, only for Alex Jones to quote them and scare people....and keeping them glued to his false ghost-theory of NWO.

[TonySutton]

Why do you think Obama is keeping the military out of our country?

[yokna7]

It appears a section of the media is releasing sensational news-pieces, true or false, only for Alex Jones to quote them and scare people....and keeping them glued to his false ghost-theory of NWO.

This was an article written by Former White House speechwriter John L. Perry. I agree that Alex Jones is not reliable, but for a former White House employee to say this is interesting.

[krazy kaju]

It appears a section of the media is releasing sensational news-pieces, true or false, only for Alex Jones to quote them and scare people....and keeping them glued to his false ghost-theory of NWO.

This.

[rpfan2008]

This was an article written by Former White House speechwriter John L. Perry. I agree that Alex Jones is not reliable, but for a former White House employee to say this is interesting.


Do you know about the recent Charlie Sheen gig of AJ?

Charlie's conscience told him to raise for re-investigating 9/11. Good.

But he has created "a document" (kind of unofficially official for the truth movement) with 20 points, this may sound normal, but the problem is he (and Alex) are programming "truthers" to take this as an 'official questionnaire' to the govt. ..which safely omits any question about the Israeli angle.

[max]

and keeping them glued to his false ghost-theory of NWO.

"false ghost theory???".....

good god man! The G-20 gang is OPENLY talking of Global Governance and world currency....Get out of denial. The NWO is not only real....it is more in-your-face than at any time before.

[Reason]

Why do you think Obama is keeping the military out of our country?

Oh really?

The U.S. military expects to have 20,000 uniformed troops inside the United States by 2011
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/30/AR2008113002217.html

[rpfan2008]

A Case AGAINST Alex Jones (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=213510)



http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4417055/Alex_Jones__Zionist_Behaviour

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4424052/Zionist_Cointel_Agent_Alex_Jones_-_Fatboy_Mega_Pack

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4852810/Missing_Links_-_The_Israeli_Engineering_of_the_911_Attacks.Final

I believe more in conspiracy to create Ben Gurion's World Government than the G-20 ones. That's what Alex hides, basically his job....to spin these facts and blame 'ghosts' like CFR, Bilderberg, and Luciferian Elites.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6140/alexjonesghosts.jpg

[max]

A Case AGAINST Alex Jones (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=213510)



http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4417055/Alex_Jones__Zionist_Behaviour

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4424052/Zionist_Cointel_Agent_Alex_Jones_-_Fatboy_Mega_Pack

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4852810/Missing_Links_-_The_Israeli_Engineering_of_the_911_Attacks.Final

I believe more in conspiracy to create Ben Gurion's World Government than the G-20 ones. That's what Alex hides, basically his job....to spin these facts and blame 'ghosts' like CFR, Bilderberg, and Luciferian Elites.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6140/alexjonesghosts.jpg

Oh...I hear ya.

Alex refuses to talk about the Jewish Masters above the "ghosts."

You have a point there. But I think its cuz Alex knows there is only so far he can go..

When Henry Ford started talking about The Protocols of the Elders of Zion....he was almost killed in a car accident.

[rpfan2008]

^ I don't say it that way....I use the words political Zionist.

[JeNNiF00F00]

"false ghost theory???".....

Good god man! The g-20 gang is openly talking of global governance and world currency....get out of denial. The nwo is not only real....it is more in-your-face than at any time before.

this.

[pcosmar]

Damn folks
We are about to be subjected to a One World Government. Like it or not.
I don't care what label you put on those behind and pushing this. Whether Zionist, Elite,G20 or the friggin' anti-christ.
The fact is it is happening. We either wake up and prepare for it or sit back and accept slavery. :(

At least he is trying to wake people up and warn them.

[Dieseler]

Yeah.
You can drop and forget that End the Fed shit.
It's a foregone conclusion.
Time to start a End the NWO // Stop // End the IMF Campaign now.

[Romulus]

Damn folks
We are about to be subjected to a One World Government. Like it or not.
I don't care what label you put on those behind and pushing this. Whether Zionist, Elite,G20 or the friggin' anti-christ.
The fact is it is happening. We either wake up and prepare for it or sit back and accept slavery. :(

At least he is trying to wake people up and warn them.

thiiiiiiis.

Alex does not get into tribalism. Its not about race or religion. thats a tool used by the NWO to marginalize, smear and attack. If AJ went after 'jewish' elite they'd break out the anti-semite card. there are just as many jews and anglo in the powerstructure so stop blaming the jooooos people.

i wont die on the AJ cross, but i think thats worth clearing up.

[RonneJJones]

It appears a section of the media is releasing sensational news-pieces, true or false, only for Alex Jones to quote them and scare people....and keeping them glued to his false ghost-theory of NWO.
It's called Black Propaganda, and Jones is a knowing and willing participant in its dissemination.

[Romulus]

It's called Black Propaganda, and Jones is a knowing and willing participant in its dissemination.

huh? examples?

[yokna7]

It's called Black Propaganda, and Jones is a knowing and willing participant in its dissemination.

Black Propaganda is typically dispensed by governments correct? Like during the Cold War or the invasion of iraq, our government lied to us. They pitted us against communists and muslims. What is the incentive for this story to serve as black propaganda? This is reverse propaganda, Alex Jones is a believer the GOVERNMENT is the enemy, that is not typical of the purpose of black propaganda.

[American Idol]

[QUOTE=rpfan2008;2357696]
I believe more in conspiracy to create Ben Gurion's World Government than the G-20 ones. That's what Alex hides, basically his job....to spin these facts and blame 'ghosts' like CFR, Bilderberg, and Luciferian Elites.

Yes, because the CFR and Bilderbergs do not exist. Totally imaginary. A conspiracy theory.

[ScoutsHonor]

[quote=rpfan2008;2357696]
I believe more in conspiracy to create Ben Gurion's World Government than the G-20 ones. That's what Alex hides, basically his job....to spin these facts and blame 'ghosts' like CFR, Bilderberg, and Luciferian Elites.

Yes, because the CFR and Bilderbergs do not exist. Totally imaginary. A conspiracy theory.

YES. And they don't meet once a year at any luxurious retreats to discuss how they're going to run the world. Ridiculous...

[eOs]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6140/alexjonesghosts.jpg




Very nice.

[catdd]

"or the friggin' anti-christ."

:D

[RonneJJones]

At least he is trying to wake people up and warn them.
No, what he is doing is sending people into yet another dream state that they will eventually have to fight their way out of.

[RonneJJones]

Alex refuses to talk about the Jewish Masters above the "ghosts.".
What utter crap. People fighting over what Black Propaganda to believe. It's incredible.

Actually, it's the one-eyed brown aliens with with dots on their forehead, that's who is behind all of this. :(

[purplechoe]

What utter crap. People fighting over what Black Propaganda to believe. It's incredible.

Actually, it's the one-eyed brown aliens with with dots on their forehead, that's who is behind all of this. :(

You life is propoganda... :rolleyes:

Here we have an example of a "Nobody", one who speaks, but says nothing.

[ScoutsHonor]

Oh...I hear ya.

When Henry Ford started talking about The Protocols of the Elders of Zion....he was almost killed in a car accident.

:confused:
Haven't you heard? The Protocols, etc. were debunked...Check it out on Wikipedia.

(sorry to interrupt your hatefest.)

[RonneJJones]

You life is propoganda... :rolleyes:

Here we have an example of a "Nobody", one who speaks, but says nothing.
Actually, about 99.5% of what is discussed here is propaganda, but I don't hold out much hope that it will ever be recognized.

And who are you to judge the value of anyone else here? Trying to play God, are we?

[LibForestPaul]

Don't want to burst anyones bubble, but when the Germans entered France, French were pretty much SOL.

They took your food, took your house, if they needed, took your sons. Either this or join the resistance and risk being shot. Not the greatest of options.

[Rael]

So, how do you feel about the idea of a coup? Are you in favor of it?

[pacelli]

So, how do you feel about the idea of a coup? Are you in favor of it?

I am definitely NOT in favor of a coup. Remember that in a coup, it often involves the entire administration and any administration loyalists. This would have a very negative impact on the general public and may bring about the very situation that many of us do not want to see: Martial law declared inside the US.

[max]

:confused:
Haven't you heard? The Protocols, etc. were debunked...Check it out on Wikipedia.

(sorry to interrupt your hatefest.)

like 9/11 truth was "debunked"...:rolleyes:

Read the actual documents from 1900, and explain how just about everything in them has come to pass.

Even if the Protocols were a hoax....whoever wrote them had serious inside info.....because what is described and predicted in those chilling documents is certainly REAL

[Flash]

http://www.henrymakow.com/maurice_joly_plagiarized_proto.html

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion were NOT debunked.

[Mini-Me]

So, how do you feel about the idea of a coup? Are you in favor of it?

Worst idea ever? First, it's extremely unlikely that enough of the military's leadership are pro-liberty in the first place. Second, any kind of military takeover/rulership is just plain wrong and totally anathema to the country's founding principles. Although there are some actions the military leadership could morally take to put a stop to all this insanity, they cannot do anything right now anyway, because Obama is President. Interrupting his Presidency in any way would lead to civil war and horrendous racial conflict. I mean, mere opposition to the guy's policies is spun as racism nowadays.

If anyone else were President, I'd jump for joy if the military leadership all withdrew from wars and bases around the world and boldly stopped obeying politicians (and ordered the lower ranks to obey the Constitution rather than the President). It would be just plain awesome if the military openly encouraged tax resistance and made a vow not to aid the government in making arrests or imposing martial law. In other words, a "reverse coup" in which they vowed to prevent martial law would be very cool. Heck, they could even arrest key politicians and bureaucrats for corruption and perjury (violating their oaths). That is technically legally out of bounds for the military, but considering the "lawful authorities" refuse to touch the matter, I can't say I'd be totally opposed to that idea in all circumstances.

However, as long as Obama is President, any kind of military insubordination is going to cause so much blowback that it could very well kill the liberty movement. Besides, I seriously doubt enough ranking officers are anywhere near friendly enough to liberty to do ANY of the above.

[ScoutsHonor]

[/URL][url]http://www.henrymakow.com/maurice_joly_plagiarized_proto.html (http://www.henrymakow.com/maurice_joly_plagiarized_proto.html)

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion were NOT debunked.

Well, yes they WERE, according to a lengthy entry in Wikipedia. What makes your citation superior?

[JXL78]

A Case AGAINST Alex Jones (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=213510)



http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4417055/Alex_Jones__Zionist_Behaviour

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4424052/Zionist_Cointel_Agent_Alex_Jones_-_Fatboy_Mega_Pack

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4852810/Missing_Links_-_The_Israeli_Engineering_of_the_911_Attacks.Final

I believe more in conspiracy to create Ben Gurion's World Government than the G-20 ones. That's what Alex hides, basically his job....to spin these facts and blame 'ghosts' like CFR, Bilderberg, and Luciferian Elites.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6140/alexjonesghosts.jpg

lmao

are those vids safe to download? which one is best?

I've always wondered how big of a threat the elite gatherings are. Sure they suck but I find them to be more about stupidity than intelligence. Sometimes I think Alex is getting people worked up over nothing. Just a bunch of rich pricks who like to get together and brag how well they're doing to each other.

[ScoutsHonor]

Read the actual documents from 1900, and explain how just about everything in them has come to pass.

Even if the Protocols were a hoax....whoever wrote them had serious inside info.....because what is described and predicted in those chilling documents is certainly REAL

Yep. But the "whoever wrote them" part is the point under discussion--and the whoever has not been proven to be "The Jews." I'm not disputing their
eerie accuracy. Just disputing folks who blame "The Jews" for every evil on earth, which gets to be awfully annoying and is completely unfair.

[micahnelson]

Military ousting democratically elected government. Smells like liberty to me!

[literatim]

Well, yes they WERE, according to a lengthy entry in Wikipedia. What makes your citation superior?

Anything is better than Wikipedia. Wikipedia has to be the worst place to get accurate information. They are known for their censorship and ideologies and only let stuff posted that they agree with.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Yep. But the "whoever wrote them" part is the point under discussion--and the whoever has not been proven to be "The Jews." I'm not disputing their
eerie accuracy. Just disputing folks who blame "The Jews" for every evil on earth, which gets to be awfully annoying and is completely unfair.

Haven't we heard this one before :D I bet some of these same people, agreed with Hitler. Those damn nasty Jew's they're responsible for every mis-deed! :eek: I like Larry David, so sue me. :)

[JeNNiF00F00]

Larry David rocks!

[wildfirepower]

Military ousting democratically elected government. Smells like liberty to me!
If USA people elect useless leaders who have no idea what is going on in the world then a military coup in USA is waiting to happen.

[rpfan2008]

^ from SK?

[wildfirepower]

If USA people elect useless leaders who have no idea what is going on in the world then a military coup in USA is waiting to happen.
Arab states, China, Russia & France to stop using the US currency for oil trading

In the most profound financial change in recent Middle East history, Gulf Arabs are planning – along with China, Russia, Japan and France – to end dollar dealings for oil, moving instead to a basket of currencies including the Japanese yen and Chinese yuan, the euro, gold and a new, unified currency planned for nations in the Gulf Co-operation Council, including Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait and Qatar.

Secret meetings have already been held by finance ministers and central bank governors in Russia, China, Japan and Brazil to work on the scheme, which will mean that oil will no longer be priced in dollars.

The plans, confirmed to The Independent by both Gulf Arab and Chinese banking sources in Hong Kong, may help to explain the sudden rise in gold prices, but it also augurs an extraordinary transition from dollar markets within nine years.

The Americans, who are aware the meetings have taken place – although they have not discovered the details – are sure to fight this international cabal which will include hitherto loyal allies Japan and the Gulf Arabs. Against the background to these currency meetings, Sun Bigan, China's former special envoy to the Middle East, has warned there is a risk of deepening divisions between China and the US over influence and oil in the Middle East. "Bilateral quarrels and clashes are unavoidable," he told the Asia and Africa Review. "We cannot lower vigilance against hostility in the Middle East over energy interests and security."

This sounds like a dangerous prediction of a future economic war between the US and China over Middle East oil – yet again turning the region's conflicts into a battle for great power supremacy. China uses more oil incrementally than the US because its growth is less energy efficient. The transitional currency in the move away from dollars, according to Chinese banking sources, may well be gold. An indication of the huge amounts involved can be gained from the wealth of Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar who together hold an estimated $2.1 trillion in dollar reserves.

The decline of American economic power linked to the current global recession was implicitly acknowledged by the World Bank president Robert Zoellick. "One of the legacies of this crisis may be a recognition of changed economic power relations," he said in Istanbul ahead of meetings this week of the IMF and World Bank. But it is China's extraordinary new financial power – along with past anger among oil-producing and oil-consuming nations at America's power to interfere in the international financial system – which has prompted the latest discussions involving the Gulf states

Brazil has shown interest in collaborating in non-dollar oil payments, along with India. Indeed, China appears to be the most enthusiastic of all the financial powers involved, not least because of its enormous trade with the Middle East.

China imports 60 per cent of its oil, much of it from the Middle East and Russia. The Chinese have oil production concessions in Iraq – blocked by the US until this year – and since 2008 have held an $8bn agreement with Iran to develop refining capacity and gas resources. China has oil deals in Sudan (where it has substituted for US interests) and has been negotiating for oil concessions with Libya, where all such contracts are joint ventures.

Furthermore, Chinese exports to the region now account for no fewer than 10 per cent of the imports of every country in the Middle East, including a huge range of products from cars to weapon systems, food, clothes, even dolls. In a clear sign of China's growing financial muscle, the president of the European Central Bank, Jean-Claude Trichet, yesterday pleaded with Beijing to let the yuan appreciate against a sliding dollar and, by extension, loosen China's reliance on US monetary policy, to help rebalance the world economy and ease upward pressure on the euro.

Ever since the Bretton Woods agreements – the accords after the Second World War which bequeathed the architecture for the modern international financial system – America's trading partners have been left to cope with the impact of Washington's control and, in more recent years, the hegemony of the dollar as the dominant global reserve currency.

The Chinese believe, for example, that the Americans persuaded Britain to stay out of the euro in order to prevent an earlier move away from the dollar. But Chinese banking sources say their discussions have gone too far to be blocked now. "The Russians will eventually bring in the rouble to the basket of currencies," a prominent Hong Kong broker told The Independent. "The Brits are stuck in the middle and will come into the euro. They have no choice because they won't be able to use the US dollar."

Chinese financial sources believe President Barack Obama is too busy fixing the US economy to concentrate on the extraordinary implications of the transition from the dollar in nine years' time. The current deadline for the currency transition is 2018.

The US discussed the trend briefly at the G20 summit in Pittsburgh; the Chinese Central Bank governor and other officials have been worrying aloud about the dollar for years. Their problem is that much of their national wealth is tied up in dollar assets.

"These plans will change the face of international financial transactions," one Chinese banker said. "America and Britain must be very worried. You will know how worried by the thunder of denials this news will generate."

Iran announced late last month that its foreign currency reserves would henceforth be held in euros rather than dollars. Bankers remember, of course, what happened to the last Middle East oil producer to sell its oil in euros rather than dollars. A few months after Saddam Hussein trumpeted his decision, the Americans and British invaded Iraq

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html

[Jags~Beach]

Obama is the leader of the coup that has taken over this nation :cool:

[pacelli]

Haven't we heard this one before :D I bet some of these same people, agreed with Hitler. Those damn nasty Jew's they're responsible for every mis-deed! :eek: I like Larry David, so sue me. :)

me too.

YouTube - Larry David - How to Handle Annoying Bluetooth Guys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0uTi2qkgf0)

YouTube - Larry David: Earth to America (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcrzC_T_XOs)

[Anti Federalist]

Damn folks
We are about to be subjected to a One World Government. Like it or not.
I don't care what label you put on those behind and pushing this. Whether Zionist, Elite,G20 or the friggin' anti-christ.
The fact is it is happening. We either wake up and prepare for it or sit back and accept slavery. :(

At least he is trying to wake people up and warn them.

That^^^ +1776

[Stary Hickory]

Military ousting democratically elected government. Smells like liberty to me!

Well now you are forced to prove how a democracy is the same thing as liberty. Our founding fathers new better do you? Without boundaries or limits a democracy is nothing more than mob rule, the many preying upon the weak. And to the extent the mobs can be manipulated sinister forces can use democracies to create dictatorships.

[yokna7]

Larry David rocks!

His show is funny, but he is the epitime of a hollywood liberal. He drinks the Obama Kool Aid.

[wildfirepower]

If USA people elect useless leaders who have no idea what is going on in the world then a military coup in USA is waiting to happen.
Afghan soldier shoots dead 2 American troops

KABUL (Reuters) - An Afghan soldier on guard at a joint base with U.S. troops shot dead two American servicemen and wounded two others as they slept, a provincial official said on Saturday.

Shahedullah Shahed, spokesman for the governor of Wardak province west of Kabul, said the shooting took place after a combined team of Afghan and U.S. forces had returned from a joint operation late on Friday.

"The Americans were in the middle of sleep when an Afghan soldier on duty opened fire on them," Shahed said.

"We have no clue as to why he shot them."

A statement from NATO-led forces said two American soldiers died from injuries suffered in a "hostile attack" in eastern Afghanistan on Friday. A press officer for the Western troops said he could give no further details of the incident.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5921AO20091003

[RonneJJones]

And why would this happen? Obama is doing a great job for the Globalists.

[Oyate]

I find this to be outrageous. Military coup? Bloodless? Which military? The SS will fight to the last man, the military would rift into factions, Gods only knows what the CIA would do (split as it already is between invisible black ops and intel) but there would be blood ALL OVER THE PLACE. And what of the people? Like there wouldn't be just an eency-peency bit of dissent among the people?

[Dianne]

Only in our dreams.

[Vessol]

Only in our dreams.

A coup would be the last thing we'd want.

You think the politicians in Washington don't give a shit about our constitution, wait till you have a General as your leader.

There is not a single military junta that espouses any freedom. If you like the idea of living under military rule, move to Burma.

[wildfirepower]

Barack Obama and his team have failed the USA with $82 Trillion of debts on and off the books.

http://usdebtclock.org/

[ScoutsHonor]

And why would this happen? Obama is doing a great job for the Globalists.

Perhaps because there is a higher agenda at work. :cool:;)

[RonneJJones]

Perhaps because there is a higher agenda at work. :cool:;)
Well, I could see it used as a False Flag to spark race riots. Now, that is something they desperately want: racial division.

[ScoutsHonor]

Well, I could see it used as a False Flag to spark race riots. Now, that is something they desperately want: racial division.

Agreed, that would work very well. I don't know, there is something about Obama that strikes me as temporary; as though he's not really there--and there is someone waiting in the wings who doesn't need a teleprompter, poised to take over. Joe Biden?
Maybe.
But yes, any attack on Obama would cause great angst in the nation..

[Krugerrand]

Agreed, that would work very well. I don't know, there is something about Obama that strikes me as temporary; as though he's not really there--and there is someone waiting in the wings who doesn't need a teleprompter, poised to take over. Joe Biden?
Maybe.
But yes, any attack on Obama would cause great angst in the nation..

Joe Biden doesn't need a teleprompter only because he's equally inept with one as without.

[yokna7]

like 9/11 truth was "debunked"...:rolleyes:

Read the actual documents from 1900, and explain how just about everything in them has come to pass.

Even if the Protocols were a hoax....whoever wrote them had serious inside info.....because what is described and predicted in those chilling documents is certainly REAL

Wikipedia is making sure everyone knows (or believes) the Protocols are fake:

Per wiki-
"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Russian: "Протоколы сионских мудрецов", or "Сионские протоколы" ; see also other titles) is a plagiarism, literary forgery, and hoax with a complex publication history."

I havent read the protocols so my opinion is moot.

[ScoutsHonor]

Joe Biden doesn't need a teleprompter only because he's equally inept with one as without.

I doubt that. He's been in the Senate for, what, 35 years or so. I don't know that much about him but I know that he's a relaxed, rather amiable public speaker.

[Oyate]

A coup would be the last thing we'd want.

You think the politicians in Washington don't give a shit about our constitution, wait till you have a General as your leader.

There is not a single military junta that espouses any freedom. If you like the idea of living under military rule, move to Burma.

Totally agree. It's never a good thing for a nation when the military politicizes and factionalizes. It's doom for a republic.

[libertarian4321]

The military isn't going to stage a coup against the elected leader of the nation just because some of them disagree with his politics.

Our military officers are well educated professionals, not third world yahoos of the sort that traditionally stage coups.

If you want to change things, do it at the ballot box, don't expect those of us in the military to stage some sort of coup reminiscent of a banana republic.

[wildfirepower]

The military isn't going to stage a coup against the elected leader of the nation just because some of them disagree with his politics.

Our military officers are well educated professionals, not third world yahoos of the sort that traditionally stage coups.

If you want to change things, do it at the ballot box, don't expect those of us in the military to stage some sort of coup reminiscent of a banana republic.
The fact is, now the situation in USA is worse than third world countries. Now USA and Europe are collapsing whereas third world countries are prospering and getting rich.

[klamath]

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