Code Pink now supports Afghanistan occupation under Obama

[MRoCkEd]

"Code Pink" rethinks its call for Afghanistan pullout (http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/1006/p06s10-wosc.html )


Code Pink, founded in 2002 to oppose the US invasion of Iraq, is one of the more high-profile women's antiwar groups being forced to rethink its position as Afghan women explain theirs: Without international troops, they say, armed groups could return with a vengeance – and that would leave women most vulnerable.

Though Afghans have their grievances against the international troops' presence, chief among them civilian casualties, many fear an abrupt departure would create a dangerous security vacuum to be filled by predatory and rapacious militias. Many women, primary victims of such groups in the past, are adamant that international troops stay until a sufficient number of local forces are trained and the rule of law established.

During their weeklong visit here, in which they met with government officials, politicians, ministers, women activists, and civil society groups, the small team of Code Pink members had hoped to gather evidence to bolster their call for US troop withdrawal within two years, and capitalize on growing anxiety back home about the war.

While the group hasn't dropped its call for a pullout, the visit convinced them that setting a deadline isn't in Afghanistan's interests, say Ms. Benjamin and fellow cofounder Jodie Evans.

"We would leave with the same parameters of an exit strategy but we might perhaps be more flexible about a timeline," says Benjamin. "That's where we have opened ourselves, being here, to some other possibilities. We have been feeling a sense of fear of the people of the return of the Taliban. So many people are saying that, 'If the US troops left the country, would collapse. We'd go into civil war.' A palpable sense of fear that is making us start to reconsider that."

Code Pink says it will continue to oppose sending more troops to Afghanistan – a move facing heated debate in Washington – and advocate for more funding for aid and humanitarian projects instead.

The group's visit coincided with a "peace trialogue" organized last week by the Delhi Policy Group that brought together women of Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India. Some participants of the meeting, who have traditionally seen demilitarization as a key to peacebuilding, also faced strong opposition from local activists when they tried to include demilitarization in a statement published at the end of the gathering.

"In the current situation of terrorism, we cannot say troops should be withdrawn," Shinkai Karokhail, an Afghan member of Parliament and woman activist, told them. "International troop presence here is a guarantee for my safety."

[coyote_sprit]

Who didn't see that coming a mile away.

[JoshLowry]

Scheuer quote to the rescue.


Quite simply, there is no moral dimension to our Afghan War other than to protect the United States and the American people. That moral obligation was ignored by Bush and is detested by Obama, being Harvard educated and the good student of Rev. Wright, Saul Alinsky, and Bill Ayers. Those who believe we should, in Afghanistan, be creating a democracy, rebuilding the economy, providing women's rights, and protecting human rights are, I am sure, good people in their own way and minds. But they are, to a monstrous extent, selfish, unrealistic, and patently unconcerned with America's security. If they really want to ensure that all of the things just listed come to pass, they ought to join an NGO, become a religious missionary, or join the Afghan army. Such people are at all times entitled to waste their lives in any manner they choose.

They are not ever, however, entitled to spend the lives of America's soldier-children in anything other than America's defense. No U.S. soldier or Marine should ever be called on to be maimed or killed to make sure Mrs. Muhammad can vote or little Ibrahim can go to a secular school; they should be called on to make such sacrifices only in an effort to decisively defeat America's enemies on the battlefield or to defend its borders.

In other words, if Mrs. Clinton wants to install women's rights in Afghanistan; and if Senator McCain wants to become involved in the civil war in Darfur; and if most members of the Congress want to do everything possible to defend Israel, let them all resign their official positions and go and take up their "sacred" causes as private citizens following their personal beliefs. They would all be likely to get their butts shot off, and America would be no poorer for their loss. Indeed, all Americans would be better off because we would stop intervening in other peoples' wars and we would preserve the lives of our soldier-children for the few occasions where the application of overwhelming military power is necessary to defend America. Our moral obligation in Afghanistan is framed solely by the requirement laid down by the Founders: America first.

http://security.nationaljournal.com/2009/09/obamas-afghan-dilemma-go-big-o.php#1352882

[Bruno]

Who didn't see that coming a mile away.

this

[Bruno]

Scheuer quote to the rescue.

Do you have a link for that, Josh? I'd like to foward that one on. thanks!

[amy31416]

Morons on so many levels.

1. Men's lives are worthless?
2. Women and children aren't still being killed in Afghanistan?
3. ZERO understanding of US/Middle Eastern history, particularly Afghani.
4. ZERO understanding of the economics behind it.

Losers.

[Reason]

who the fck names an organization they want taken seriously "code pink"

[not.your.average.joe]

Scheuer quote to the rescue.

Where/when was this quote taken from?

[JoshLowry]

http://security.nationaljournal.com/2009/09/obamas-afghan-dilemma-go-big-o.php#1352882


He should make an article out of it and put it online somewhere. It's a great summary.

[LibertyWorker]

I didn't know astro turf came in pink.

[Anti Federalist]

http://onlineathens.com/images/062603/maddox1.jpg

[ClayTrainor]

Code Pink has and always will be pathetic hypocrites.

http://www.psc-cuny.org/CodePink.jpg

But re-think obama's war :rolleyes:

[Jeremy]

LOL! An an anti-war group that supports war!

[Todd]

LOL! An an anti-war group that supports war!

Now we see how legitimate Antiwar.com really is, and probably why left wing anti war movements are really bullshit. Groups like code pink would never try to network with ideologically and principled sound groups like Raimondo's site for their supposed common goal.

[klamath]

Instead of code pink I think code red better fits.

[Jeremy]

radio interview http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/10/07/medea-benjamin/

[Bruno]

http://security.nationaljournal.com/2009/09/obamas-afghan-dilemma-go-big-o.php#1352882


He should make an article out of it and put it online somewhere. It's a great summary.

thanks!

[cheapseats]

Perhaps we should issue pink camouflage and gear to the Afghanis who are on "our" side,
so our Sitting Ducks can better distinguish the ones that Ruling Elite-Snug-In-Ivory-Towers
have designated as our enemies.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/litwit/PinkCamo4.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/litwit/PinkCamo3.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/litwit/PinkCamo9.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/litwit/PinkCamo10.jpg

One of several American soldiers who were killed by one of "our" Afghanis
might have noticed PINK streaking through the barracks.
.

[angelatc]

I didn't know astro turf came in pink.

I am going to steal this line. I like it very much, and you can't stop me. :D

[ronpaulhawaii]

Me-thinks people could look into the links between CP and a NGO named Global Exchange. Especially if their income from grants has picked up since becoming prO-war...

Hmmmm...

[Bruno]

When the Republicans gain back control of the House and the presidency, they will flip back again.

[rpfan2008]

Code Pink had a zionist agenda...don't u guys know that? (even AJ, another zionist shill, accepts that)

there job was to make the left look anti-war, they did their job well and got their paychecks.... and left.

what's the point of making a thread now?

[cheapseats]

Instead of code pink I think code red better fits.

l

PINK IS RED LITE
l

[RonneJJones]

Medea Benjamin is a "former economist and nutritionist with the United Nations and World Health Organization"

http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=51

[aravoth]

"Hello, I represent Code Pink, today you have learned that we are completely full of shit. Our official statement on this matter is as follows........

Duh."

Well....................no shit.

[constituent]

Scheuer quote to the rescue.



http://security.nationaljournal.com/2009/09/obamas-afghan-dilemma-go-big-o.php#1352882

It's good, but I would replace this


being Harvard educated and the good student of Rev. Wright, Saul Alinsky, and Bill Ayers.

with an ellipsis if you want folks from "the left" to keep reading.

[constituent]

Code Pink had a zionist agenda...don't u guys know that? (even AJ, another zionist shill, accepts that)

there job was to make the left look anti-war, they did their job well and got their paychecks.... and left.

what's the point of making a thread now?

winna!

[devil21]

So it took Code Pink less than a year to go from marching on Washington, screaming about how evil GWB is, to them sounding a lot like GWB himself. Not that it's a surprise to any of us but how do people not see it for the bullshit it is??

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Now would be a good time for the government to infiltrate the group with vocal supporters of military intervention for the sake of women's rights overseas.

Turn the group from anti-war, to militant defenders of womens rights.

[constituent]

So it took Code Pink less than a year to go from marching on Washington, screaming about how evil GWB is, to them sounding a lot like GWB himself. Not that it's a surprise to any of us but how do people not see it for the bullshit it is??

expect more of it in the future.

[Meatwasp]

Now would be a good time for the government to infiltrate the group with vocal supporters of military intervention for the sake of women's rights overseas.

Turn the group from anti-war, to militant defenders of womens rights.

Gee don't give them any ideas

[devil21]

Gee don't give them any ideas

Yeah really. But somehow I doubt there's anything novel about that. They're already way ahead of you Im sure.



expect more of it in the future.

Oh I will. Im going to keep following their transformation. The "Just win then come home" and "Support our Troops" type statements won't be far off. Can't wait to see what happens Iran is attacked. Those people's heads will explode.

[muzzled dogg]

hypocritical bitches

[devil21]

The timing is of particular interest since Obama is about to order at least 21,000 more US troops into Afghanistan and possibly up to 45,000. That doesn't sound very anti-war. So Code Pink steps in to support their Democrat warmonger by claiming "It's ok, he knows what he's doing and we agree" in order to rally the sheep around yet ANOTHER military exercise. The same people that were marching on Washington over the Iraq Surge are now supporting the Afghan surge. This guy looks more like Bush every day and the sheep are being played like a cheap guitar to sign off on whatever he does, even if it's completely at odds with everything he was elected on. And people are falling for it, hook line and sinker. It's sickening.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Are we surprised? These people have no principles. You can spot that from a mile away. I guess all the "Bush Bush Bush" wasn't clear enough? It was Anti-Bush, not Anti-War from the beginning.

You'll know the principled ones when you see them talk about history, interventionism, and monetary policy...ok I kid on the last one, only the ones who look at the issue in it's essence are somewhat trust worthy (No one is 100% trust worthy until they die and you see they haven't compromised their principles) ;)

[cheapseats]

Are we surprised? These people have no principles. You can spot that from a mile away. I guess all the "Bush Bush Bush" wasn't clear enough? It was Anti-Bush, not Anti-War from the beginning.

You'll know the principled ones when you see them talk about history, interventionism, and monetary policy...ok I kid on the last one, only the ones who look at the issue in it's essence are somewhat trust worthy (No one is 100% trust worthy until they die and you see they haven't compromised their principles) ;)

I believe there is a title of the same sentiment, I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.

[devil21]

Yep, you're absolutely right AED. That's the point I've been trying to make to other people about this and still get resistance. Code Pink was anti-Bush, anti-Republican. It's showing now. They never were anti-war, though they had me fooled up until now. Anti-war was just a cover to trash Republicans and keep the false left v right nonsense going strong.

I just watched a Code Pink video on YT and mishmashed between the statements about Bush and war was a little tidbit about how communism is a good thing. That's pretty much the kicker right there. Ignore everything else, it's just noise.

[RonneJJones]

Medea Benjamin is a "former economist and nutritionist with the United Nations and World Health Organization"

http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=51
Benjamin is running a front activist group, that's all.

[catdd]

The timing is of particular interest since Obama is about to order at least 21,000 more US troops into Afghanistan and possibly up to 45,000. That doesn't sound very anti-war. So Code Pink steps in to support their Democrat warmonger by claiming "It's ok, he knows what he's doing and we agree" in order to rally the sheep around yet ANOTHER military exercise. The same people that were marching on Washington over the Iraq Surge are now supporting the Afghan surge. This guy looks more like Bush every day and the sheep are being played like a cheap guitar to sign off on whatever he does, even if it's completely at odds with everything he was elected on. And people are falling for it, hook line and sinker. It's sickening.

Poetry.

[devil21]

Thank you. Like the saying goes, "There's no such thing as coincidences in politics." This statement by Code Pink is 100% planned and executed to coincide with Obama's first open decision to step the conflict up.

Code Pink is also a member group supporting a new "approach".

http://www.rethinkafghanistan.com

Looks like "End The Wars" has been replaced with "Give Them Money".

[catdd]

I'm sure someone made it worth their while. Bribes, kickbacks, and payoffs have become as common as dirt.

[ItsTime]

Ive almost given up hope of the left growing a pair of balls.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Ive almost given up hope of the left growing a pair of balls.

That is impossible as long as anyone sees themselves as left or right.

To have balls one has to venture into the unknown that exists beyond those paradigms.

[amy31416]

That is impossible as long as anyone sees themselves as left or right.

To have balls one has to venture into the unknown that exists beyond those paradigms.

Being beyond partisanship takes a rare combination of testicular fortitude AND brains. :)

Just my 2c.

[ClayTrainor]

That is impossible as long as anyone sees themselves as left or right.

To have balls one has to venture into the unknown that exists beyond those paradigms.

Yup, the only true way to be anti-war is to bust out of the left vs right paradigm. The power to forcefully tax property is the power to go to war.

[ItsTime]

Being beyond partisanship takes a rare combination of testicular fortitude AND brains. :)

Just my 2c.

yup ;)

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Being beyond partisanship takes a rare combination of testicular fortitude AND brains. :)

Just my 2c.

:p Indeed !

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Yup, the only true way to be anti-war is to bust out of the left vs right paradigm. The power to forcefully tax property is the power to go to war.

:cool:

[revolutionisnow]

Controlled Opposition, its like the WWF

YouTube - Donald Rumsfeld and Code Pink (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDmRdfyAUio)

YouTube - Dr. Rice is Reminded of the Blood on Her Hands (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSgXWAfH9ec)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1312014/posts

"CODE PINK GIVES $600,000 TO THE 'OTHER SIDE' IN FALLUJAH"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1312014/posts

[catdd]

Controlled Opposition, its like the WWF

YouTube - Donald Rumsfeld and Code Pink (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDmRdfyAUio)

YouTube - Dr. Rice is Reminded of the Blood on Her Hands (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSgXWAfH9ec)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1312014/posts

"CODE PINK GIVES $600,000 TO THE 'OTHER SIDE' IN FALLUJAH"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1312014/posts



And now they comply with and fully endorse the bombing of Afghanistan and Pakistan which is blowing little children into thousands of bloody bits.
If one of us did that today they would shoot us with the taser and leave it on "continuous play".

[RyanRSheets]

1. Men's lives are worthless?

You didn't get the memo?

[catdd]

Hypocrisy is the highest form of Patriotism to the Democrats.

[MRoCkEd]

We should protest outside of code pink's office with blood on our hands.

[ItsTime]

We should protest outside of code pink's office with blood on our hands.

Best idea ever.

[Deborah K]

Koolaid anyone?

http://i34.tinypic.com/2h576hh.jpg

[tron paul]

This is good news for the rEVOLution. Code Pink's rank and file aren't going to like what their leaders have done in selling out to Obama. What an opportunity to recruit disillusioned, disappointed leftists to the anti-war libertarian side!

All we have to do is start protesting Code Pink, using Code Pink tactics, and the media (new and old) will have a field day with the story.

[DFF]

So Code Pink's sold out...the Nobel Foundantion's sold out...is there anybody on the planet who hasn't sold out? Oh, wait....

EDIT: I found my new avatar (for another site) ...

http://i34.tinypic.com/2h576hh.jpg

LMFAO!!!!

[devil21]

This is good news for the rEVOLution. Code Pink's rank and file aren't going to like what their leaders have done in selling out to Obama. What an opportunity to recruit disillusioned, disappointed leftists to the anti-war libertarian side!

All we have to do is start protesting Code Pink, using Code Pink tactics, and the media (new and old) will have a field day with the story.

^^^
Im not so sure. Im already seeing how Code Pink's shift is changing the attitudes of previously "anti-war" lefty people I know who were aware of the shift. All of a sudden Im hearing phrases like "new information deserves to be considered" and "what? people can't change their minds?" No joke. The paradigm shift is underway and you can see it happening right before your eyes. The mainstream media will ignore any attempts to call out Code Pink for being sheep.

[revolutionary8]

This is good news for the rEVOLution. Code Pink's rank and file aren't going to like what their leaders have done in selling out to Obama. What an opportunity to recruit disillusioned, disappointed leftists to the anti-war libertarian side!

All we have to do is start protesting Code Pink, using Code Pink tactics, and the media (new and old) will have a field day with the story.

This is horrible news. I'm not sure how you can equate having a TOTAL LOSS in "faith" in those who are truly "supposedly" ANTI-WAR as a GAIN. It sounds Keynesian to me.
I don't like it.

[ronpaulhawaii]

Hmmmm...

http://www.globalexchange.org/update/6344.html

[revolutionary8]

Hmmmm...

http://www.globalexchange.org/update/6344.html

While the award came as a surprise, it is somewhat understandable. We have met and conversed with peace activists from around the world over the last year, and we've observed a palpable, nearly desperate, universal hunger (obviously shared by the Nobel Committee) for a more peaceful, less militaristic U.S. foreign policy.

................

The U.S. annually spends over $700 billion on war and weaponry, nearly as much on the military as the rest of the world's countries combined. The U.S. maintains over 800 foreign military bases. The purpose of most of these bases is to project our power in order to maintain our unsustainable addiction to fossil fuels. Our top industrial export to the rest of the world is weaponry.

................

Despite President Obama's inspiring rhetoric about seeking a nuclear weapons-free world, the U.S. still maintains over 10,000 nuclear weapons, many still inexplicably poised on hair-trigger alert to launch on a few minutes' notice.
..................

We agree with President Obama that the Peace Prize is a "call to action." Here's a to-do list, for him and for all of us:

www.globalexchange.org/update/6344.html

Makes sense.


That is until you get in to the fact that the US will always occupy "the biggest guns"- hell, we are testing them on our own people now, but only after we tested them on the "sand *******" in Iraq.
Joy
And F you PC cops. It'll ALL start stinkin' eventually..

[FrankRep]

"Code Pink" rethinks its call for Afghanistan pullout (http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/1006/p06s10-wosc.html )

Anti-War Group?

[angelatc]

What is wrong with you? This is 2 years old.

[AndrewD]

Wait a second. Doesn't Adam Kokesh organize himself with Code Pink? Don't tell me he's getting a free pass on that just the same as Gary Johnson gets a free pass here on his Guantanamo Bay stance ...

[tropicangela]

Wait a second. Doesn't Adam Kokesh organize himself with Code Pink? Don't tell me he's getting a free pass on that just the same as Gary Johnson gets a free pass here on his Guantanamo Bay stance ...

Adam directly told Code Pink on his show last week that [only] when Code Pink is on the side of the Constitution, freedom, and liberty that he is on the side of Code Pink.

[jmdrake]

Wait a second. Doesn't Adam Kokesh organize himself with Code Pink? Don't tell me he's getting a free pass on that just the same as Gary Johnson gets a free pass here on his Guantanamo Bay stance ...

Adam Kokesh organized with Code Pink's antiwar rallies back when Bush was president. Then a couple of Code Pinkers showed up (uninvited according to them) when he was dancing for peace.

As for Gary Johnson and Guantanamo, I didn't know his stance until you posted it, but how is that any different from Rand Paul's stance? I don't agree with Rand's position, but I don't think it's a big deal. (If we're not going to free these people they have to be held somewhere. Gitmo's as good a place as any). If I'm going to give Rand a pass on this, why should I attack Gary Johnson? I'm not a Gary Johnson booster by any stretch, but I think we have to be consistent on the passes. (Maybe you don't give Rand a pass?)

[FrankRep]

Adam directly told Code Pink on his show last week that [only] when Code Pink is on the side of the Constitution, freedom, and liberty that he is on the side of Code Pink.
Code Pink is NOT on the side of the Constitution, freedom, and liberty. They're a progressive "Social Justice" (Marxist) group willing to exploit the anti-War movement to push an agenda.

[tropicangela]

Code Pink is NOT on the side of the Constitution, freedom, and liberty. They're a progressive "Social Justice" (Marxist) group willing to exploit the anti-War movement to push an agenda.

Never? Never, ever, ever on the side of the Constitution? Not once?

How do you predict their actions at the TJ Memorial will be used to push their agenda, Frank? Who are you afraid of Code Pink influencing?

[FrankRep]

Never? Never, ever, ever on the side of the Constitution? Not once?

They're a progressive "Social Justice" (Marxist) group willing to exploit the anti-War movement to push an agenda.

[tropicangela]

Break it down for me please - what's their agenda and who will go along with it?

[pcosmar]

Break it down for me please - what's their agenda and who will go along with it?

They are the "D" communists. He only supports the "R" communists.
:rolleyes:

No I don't believe that, by JBS has a habit of seeing EVERYONE as a Commie.
The fact is the socialists have had control of this country for almost 100 years.
And they are very good at pointing fingers,,
"look over there, a communist"
While pushing the same agenda as the communists,,just worded a little differently.

This is why I like DR.Paul. He champions individuals rather than focusing on groups.
And the Constitution rather than agendas.

[FrankRep]

Break it down for me please - what's their agenda and who will go along with it?


CODEPINK: What is our mission? (http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?list=type&type=3)


CODEPINK is a women-initiated grassroots peace and social justice movement working to end U.S. funded wars and occupations, to challenge militarism globally, and to redirect our resources into health care, education, green jobs and other life-affirming activities. Won't you join us?

====

What is Social Justice?

What Exactly Is 'Social Justice'?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/05/what_exactly_is_social_justice.html

Top U.S. Catholic Church Leader: “Social Justice” Is Marxism
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/55465.html

Marxism and Social Justice
http://www.politicalchristian.org/wordpress/2010/03/31/marxism-and-social-justice/

Glenn Beck says social justice "has nothing to do with Jesus" -- "It's really Marxism"
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201004280065

Social Justice: Code for Communism
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=13978

Glenn Beck: What Is 'Social Justice'?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,589832,00.html

Public Schools’ “Social Justice Education” Cloaks Marxist Teaching
http://chalcedon.edu/research/articles/public-schools-social-justice-education-cloaks-marxist-teaching/

Obama Advisor Jim Wallis Explores Wealth, Marxism & Social Justice
http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-advisor-jim-wallis-explores-wealth-marxism-social-justice/

[jmdrake]

Code Pink is NOT on the side of the Constitution, freedom, and liberty. They're a progressive "Social Justice" (Marxist) group willing to exploit the anti-War movement to push an agenda.

Right. Because the federal government violating our rights of the people to peaceably assemble is constitutional. :rolleyes:

[Danke]

Man, a lot of members in this old thread eventually got banned.

[Pericles]

Man, a lot of members in this old thread eventually got banned.

But I also got to go back in time and give out a +rep