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bobbyw24
10-05-2009, 06:30 AM
Newt Gingrich: Americans Must Fight Hostility to Christianity Growing in Schools

Sunday, October 4, 2009 5:37 PM

A virulent hostility toward religion is threatening the very fabric of American liberty and prosperity – that's the alarm sounded by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and wife Callista, hosts of a recently released and thought-provoking new documentary “Rediscovering God in America II: Our Heritage.”

In an exclusive Newsmax.TV interview, the former House Speaker contends that American culture has been marked by "a steady increase in hostility to religion over the last 70 or 80 years, in ways that are a profound challenge, both to Western Civilization and to America as we know it."

Gingrich says his documentary exposes the fact that that Christianity is the primary target of the attacks.


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Gingrich says, "When you look at efforts to drive the cross off of public lands, efforts to drive [out] nativity scenes… there are a number of places in America now where there is a great bias in favor of teaching children about Islam than there is about Christianity. You actually have schools today that will have a class on Islam, but refuse to have a class on Christianity. I'll let you decide whether that's a bias."


With top-drawer cinematography deftly complementing the real story of democracy's birth pangs, the DVD manages to avoid sounding the drumbeat of religiosity or politics. "What we try to do is really put America in a historic setting," says Gingrich, himself a former college history professor. "These movies are not theological, they're not ideological."


The new DVD takes off where Gingrich's New York Times bestselling book “Rediscovering God in America,” and its companion DVD by the same name, left off.


That earlier effort presented a walking tour of the nation's capital. Much to the ire of hard-core secularists intent on driving faith out of the public square, it documented the Judeo-Christian underpinnings of the nation that are so clearly evident in the tableau of monuments, memorials, and federal buildings seen throughout Washington, D.C.


The new DVD, “Rediscovering God in America II: Our Heritage,” uses the same concepts and techniques. But this time they follow the birth of democracy across the entire United States, from the spot where the first English settlers landed near Jamestown in 1607, to the cradles of liberty in Philadelphia and Boston, to George Washington's Mount Vernon plantation manse on the shores of the Potomac, to the Gettysburg battlefield where Lincoln honored the men who gave "the last full measure of devotion," and pledged "that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom."


The narrative begins with the landing of the first permanent English settlers in 1607.


Speaker Gingrich explains: "Rediscovering God in America II: Our Heritage begins with the first English-speaking settlers at Cape Henry, Virginia raising a cross, and thanking God for getting them across the Atlantic – their very first act.


"I would challenge any viewer to go check your child's text book, and see whether or


http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/gingrich_religion_schools/2009/10/04/268239.html

cheapseats
10-05-2009, 06:36 AM
TO Newt Gingrich: American Politicians Must Get It Through Their Duplicitous Heads and Dark Hearts That Hostility To Government Is Growing Amongst Educated and Uneducated Alike.

fisharmor
10-05-2009, 06:49 AM
Newt Gingrich: Americans Must Fight Hostility to Christianity Growing in Schools

Liberty Movement: Americans Must Fight Schools.

There, fixed it.

My favorite Kurosawa movie quote.... What's the use in worrying about your beard, when your head's about to come off?

The religious right is becoming more and more disenfranchised these days, because all the smart people are slowly walking away from them. Newt can have all the mouth-breathers in that crowd who still fall for the drum-beating approach to politics. He and McShame can play their flute and march them all off the cliff. We'll be left to rebuild afterward.

romeno182
10-05-2009, 06:50 AM
freedom of religion BY freedom from religion

YumYum
10-05-2009, 06:56 AM
TO Newt Gingrich: American Politicians Must Get It Through Their Duplicitous Heads and Dark Hearts That Hostility To Government Is Growing Amongst Educated and Uneducated Alike.

I wonder when Gingrich was committing adultery against his wife, and banging away on the whore with his newt, was he thinking about Jesus on the cross?

FrankRep
10-05-2009, 07:01 AM
The Real Newt Gingrich

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Bucjason
10-05-2009, 09:45 AM
Newt Gingrich is Awesome !



hehehe

lester1/2jr
10-05-2009, 09:54 AM
I know this is a big issue in my life. also they should widen the doors to the classrooms so my kids can drag a replica cross into school with them

Iran, the economy, downward spiralling empire , those problems will fix themselves



Newt Gingrich conveted to catholicism to try and undo the damage done by him having an affair while he was going after Clinton for the same thing.

he "went to rehab"!

cheapseats
10-05-2009, 10:50 AM
I know this is a big issue in my life. also they should widen the doors to the classrooms so my kids can drag a replica cross into school with them

The implications of Hypocrisy seem utterly lost on you.

Heed-my-words-rather-than-assess-my-actions-slash-practice-what-I-preach Hypocrisy is at the very HEART of what ails us.

cheapseats
10-05-2009, 10:52 AM
New share with your comment, tks.

Non-sequiturs R Us?

cheapseats
10-05-2009, 10:59 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/09/politics/main2551861.shtml




3.9.2007

Gingrich Had Affair During Clinton Probe

(CBS/AP) Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was having an extramarital affair even as he led the charge against President Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky affair, he acknowledged in an interview with a conservative Christian group.

"The honest answer is yes," Gingrich, a potential 2008 Republican presidential candidate, said in an interview with Focus on the Family founder James Dobson to be aired Friday, according to a transcript provided to The Associated Press. "There are times that I have fallen short of my own standards. There's certainly times when I've fallen short of God's standards."

Gingrich argued in the interview, however, that he should not be viewed as a hypocrite for pursuing Clinton's infidelity...



http://barnstormer.wordpress.com/2007/03/09/newt-gingrich-moral-cursader-against-infidelity/


3.9.2007

Newt Gingrich – Moral Crusader Against Infidelity

The following is a quote.

“Gingrich was an outspoken opponent of Bill Clinton, frequently attacking the President on his lack of morals. But Gingrich had more than his share of skeletons in the closet. Gingrich has been divorced twice and married three times. He called his second wife in the hospital while she was recovering from cancer treatment, to tell her that he was filing for divorce.

While the GOP-led Congress was crucifying President Clinton for carrying on an affair with Monica Lewinsky, Gingrich was busy carrying on an affair of his own. Gingrich was having an affair with a Congressional intern who would eventually become his third wife.”

- from http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Newt_Gingrich


Bold emphasis, mine.

I guaran-fucking-tee Newt Gingrich and his (second) Trophy (third) Wife (and former intern) that, if they throw their adulterous hats into the presidential three-ringer, I will be RIGHT there to piss on their parade. Also to mix metaphors.

Dieseler
10-05-2009, 11:01 AM
Hell yeah, ole Newt will be a candidate and likely The Nominee, watchansee.

UnReconstructed
10-05-2009, 11:08 AM
he's a turd

cheapseats
10-05-2009, 11:16 AM
he's a turd

EXACTLY. Low, period, Life, period.

I am sick and tired of people pimping people as SMART. Hank the Bank Paulson. Tiny Tim Geithner. Smart without ethics isn't dick. Rather, it IS Dick. Cheney.

Smart (+) x Consciencelessness (-) = double whammy negative.

cheapseats
10-05-2009, 11:37 AM
Newt Gingrich is not a Good Man. I'd say FUCK NEWT, but it seems that would constitute another feather in his Chris-Dodd-coif.

That said, Americans SHOULD be combatting hostility toward Christianity. There is Eau De Hostility circulating against WHITES, too. I forget now whether it was in Washington or Oregon that I passed an enormous billboard that said only:


I S L A M

I'm not okay with that.

Mind, I wouldn't like to pass a billboard that hollered C H R I S T I A N I T Y either, and some of the billboards in the Bible Belt are real showstoppers, I'm not gonna lie. But call me old-fashioned. One nation under God, in God we trust, et al. The CELEBRATION of Islam concurrent with hostility toward Christianity and whites is particularly unsettling.

We've got our OWN Holy Roller Extremists, make no mistake. They are cause and continuation of no few problems. But they're OURS, y'know what I mean?

Life in America is schizophrenic enough. Small is tall. A War on Drugs juxtaposed with relentless advertisements encouraging you to tell your doctor/dealer if you need pills for ailments I didn't even know existed. Restless Leg, are they kidding me? With all the other dramas and traumas that are unfolding like origami, I just can't swing the God-Allah two-step.

lester1/2jr
10-05-2009, 12:56 PM
I've got bigger fish to fry

cheapseats
10-05-2009, 01:16 PM
I've got bigger fish to fry

Not gun control in YOUR city, apparently. Controls and constraints that run contrary to the Constitution are okay in some areas, so long as they're okay by you, is that right? I mean, is that correct? Clearly, it isn't Right.

Now I remember. You had PLEASANT INTERNET EXPERIENCES onto which you were going to move.

cheapseats
10-05-2009, 01:17 PM
MindOfMo Before Newt Gingrich throws his chapeau in the ring, let us kindly recall that he is a serial philanderer. PHILANDERERS ARE NOTORIOUS LIARS.
less than 5 seconds ago from web

lester1/2jr
10-05-2009, 01:19 PM
sure. here one day, someplace else the next!

I'm not big on the constitution but surely you can appreciate the right of states to live their lives as they choose.

I'm also oppsed to roe v wade for the same reason. let the flyover states become the christian meth gang warzones they've always wanted to be!

let the cool people move up here

cheapseats
10-05-2009, 01:25 PM
I'm not big on the constitution

I gathered.



but surely you can appreciate the right of states to live their lives as they choose.

States don't live lives. People do. And no, I cannot appreciate the right of some people to capriciously and unilaterally infringe on the rights of others.



sure. here one day, someplace else the next!

Traveling Mercies.

lester1/2jr
10-05-2009, 01:39 PM
the constitution leaves moral issue up to the states. guns and abortion are moral issues.

YumYum
10-05-2009, 01:49 PM
Americans SHOULD be combatting hostility toward Christianity. There is Eau De Hostility circulating against WHITES, too. I forget now whether it was in Washington or Oregon that I passed an enormous billboard that said only:


I S L A M

I'm not okay with that.

I am.


Mind, I wouldn't like to pass a billboard that hollered C H R I S T I A N I T Y either, and some of the billboards in the Bible Belt are real showstoppers, I'm not gonna lie. But call me old-fashioned. One nation under God, in God we trust, et al.

Religious freedom would allow a billboard that says "Christianity". As far as "One nation under God, in God we trust", whose God are you talking about? Your God? I don't believe in your God. I don't even know who your God is. This isn't in our Constitution.



The CELEBRATION of Islam concurrent with hostility toward Christianity and whites is particularly unsettling.

And the current hostility that Christians have against Muslims is also unsettling.



We've got our OWN Holy Roller Extremists, make no mistake. They are cause and continuation of no few problems. But they're OURS, y'know what I mean?

They are not mine. Most holy rollers I've meet are insane and judgemental. You need to read the book "Blasphemy" by the Zionist Alan Dershowitz. He absolutely shreads any notion that America was founded on Christian principals. If Christians are "ours", so are atheist, Jews, Muslims and Hindus.



I just can't swing the God-Allah two-step.

I can't swing the God-Jesus nation building pre-emptive strikes against innocent people.

cheapseats
10-05-2009, 02:06 PM
I am.

You are all kindsa sanctimonious, too.




Religious freedom would allow a billboard that says "Christianity".

That's right. I believe I cited some in the Bible Belt that will cause your car to swerve. I'm for NO billboards, howz THAT? They are an eyesore. They trumpet Conspicuous Consumption. They are a driving hazard.

Holy Rollers have been doin' their thing with bravado these past eight years, and now the chickens are coming home to roost. The answer is NOT bullshit showy embrasure of every other religion under the sun. Speaking of which, Islam seems to me to be gettin' disproportionate fanfare. Fanfare and Religion are highly combustible.





As far as "One nation under God, in God we trust", whose God are you talking about? Your God?

Yep.




I don't believe in your God.


Your loss.



I don't even know who your God is.

Then you're not receptive. God is everywhere present.




This isn't in our Constitution.

There's a lotta stuff that isn't in our Constitution but, lo and behold, there it is in Reality.




And the current hostility that Christians have against Muslims is also unsettling.


You bet. Which makes gargantuan billboards that say nothing but


I S L A M

so provocative.




They are not mine. Most holy rollers I've meet are insane and judgemental.


Make no mistake, I've met a few of 'em myself -- to say nothing of my experience, along with the rest of the country, of the fallout of their zealousness.

That said, I'm sure you will concede that you have not met MOST bona fide Holy Rollers, who I distinguish entirely from Faux Christians.




You need to read the book "Blasphemy" by the Zionist Alan Dershowitz. He absolutely shreads any notion that America was founded on Christian principals.


The original Landed White Male Gentry perks are enough, thanks.




If Christians are "ours", so are atheist, Jews, Muslims and Hindus.

On what page does the chapter on our founding Muslim and Hindu fathers begin?

I reject the pie-in-the-sky-slash-kum-bay-ah notion that America is rightly designated as the Global Melting Pot.





I can't swing the God-Jesus nation building pre-emptive strikes against innocent people.

I can't swing the nation building pre-emptive strikes against innocent people, either. But God-Jesus have got nuthin', nada, zero, zip to do with nation building pre-emptive strikes against innocent people. Nation building pre-emptive strikes against innocent people is about Money and Power, period.

"Money to get power, power to protect money." -- House of Medici

YumYum
10-05-2009, 02:14 PM
You are all kindsa sanctimonious, too.





That's right. I believe I cited some in the Bible Belt that will cause your car to swerve. I'm for NO billboards, howz THAT? They are an eyesore. They trumpet Conspicuous Consumption. They are a driving hazard.

Holy Rollers have been doin' their thing with bravado these past eight years, and now the chickens are coming home to roost. The answer is NOT bullshit showy embrasure of every other religion under the sun. Speaking of which, Islam seems to me to be gettin' disproportionate fanfare. Fanfare and Religion are highly combustible.






Yep.





Your loss.




Then you're not receptive. God is everywhere present.





There's a lotta stuff that isn't in our Constitution but, lo and behold, there it is in Reality.





You bet. Which makes gargantuan billboards that say nothing but


I S L A M

so provocative.





Make no mistake, I've met a few of 'em myself -- to say nothing of my experience, along with the rest of the country, of the fallout of their zealousness.

That said, I'm sure you will concede that you have not met MOST bona fide Holy Rollers, who I distinguish entirely from Faux Christians.





The original Landed White Gentry perks are enough, thanks.





On what page does the chapter on our founding Muslim and Hindu fathers begin?

I reject the pie-in-the-sky-slash-kum-bay-ah notion that America is rightly designated as the Global Melting Pot.




I can't swing the God-Jesus nation building pre-emptive strikes against innocent people.[/QUOTE]

I don't believe in Mickey Mouse. But I believe everyone should have the right to visit Disneyland. If you don't like the billboard, don't read it. If our founding fathers were Christans, as you say, were they as fucked up as the holy roller Christians are today?

cheapseats
10-05-2009, 02:24 PM
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/newt-gingrich-awards----then-strips----entrepreneur-of-the-year-honor-to-topless-club-owner.php


Newt Gingrich Awards 'Entrepreneur Of The Year' Honor To Topless Club Owner
Ben Frumin | September 30, 2009, 6:08PM


We reported earlier this month that Newt Gingrich's 527 group had accidentally told porn exec Allison Vivas that she'd been awarded an "Entrepreneur of the Year" award and invited her to an "intimate event" with Gingrich. The group soon backtracked and said the whole thing was a mistake.

Well, they may have made a similar mistake again. The Dallas Morning News reports that the owner of a topless club in Texas was given the same award -- and then stripped of it.

Dawn Rizos, owner of The Lodge, which the Morning News calls "one of the best-known gentlemen's clubs in Dallas," was named an "Entrepreneur of the Year" by Gingrich's conservative group. And then Gingrich rescinded the invitation to a private D.C. dinner -- along with Rizos' $5,000 donation to Gingrich's group, American Solutions for Winning the Future.

The group's spokesman, Dan Kotman, was not immediately available for comment.

Rizos, on the other hand, was happy to talk to us. She said she'd already bought her plane tickets and booked a hotel room when Gingrich's group contacted the club yesterday to say the whole thing was a horrible mistake.

"I guess they finally googled me," she said, adding that she'd been looking forward to having her photo taken with Gingrich.

I'm disappointed. I'm really heartbroken that we won't have that picture in the club.
Rizos said the club has won a number of awards in the past, and that it's actually "conservative" by the standards of many topless clubs -- and serves a wide variety of respectable clients.

"It's not something that he would be embarrassed to be associated with," she said, adding that Gingrich "fits the perfect profile of one of our customers."

Rizos sent me an e-mail a few minutes after our phone conversation with this message for Gingrich:

No hard feelings, please drop by and see us anytime. We have lots to talk about.


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s221/litwit/newt-tongue-911.jpg

lester1/2jr
10-05-2009, 02:30 PM
As far as "One nation under God, in God we trust", whose God are you talking about? Your God?

Yep.

this is why I don't get paleos. they seem to think that "freedom" means that we all just naturally want to do what they consider to be normal. like listening to country music or watching nascar. like libertarian means freedom...to be just like them

Flash
10-05-2009, 02:33 PM
You need to read the book "Blasphemy" by the Zionist Alan Dershowitz. He absolutely shreads any notion that America was founded on Christian principals.

Ah, so you're a White Nationalist. Thanks for admitting it.

I mean afterall, America was founded as an Anglo-Saxon/Scots-Irish nation. The Constitution & Declaration of Independence itself strongly implied this. Hence the reason why the word "men" didn't apply to slaves. Does this mean we should all be White Nationalists because our nation was founded upon nativism? And for the most part, it was all Protestant sects in this nation. Not Judaic, Islamic, or Catholic temples. So you would be correct-- it wasn't a Christian nation. It was a Protestant nation. A few of our most admired Founding Fathers were Deists, but that doesn't somehow make all of America a Deist nation.

Besides, anyone that believes in the laughable ideology of Zionism shouldnt' be taken seriously. They think the Ashkenazim race is native to the Levant, is there anything more retarded that that? Seriously. I do agree Jews should move there, but under a peaceful movement.

-- A pagan


PS: Where in the Constitution does it say Public School officials can't mention god?

lester1/2jr
10-05-2009, 02:34 PM
delete

YumYum
10-05-2009, 03:17 PM
Ah, so you're a White Nationalist. Thanks for admitting it.

I mean afterall, America was founded as an Anglo-Saxon/Scots-Irish nation. The Constitution & Declaration of Independence itself strongly implied this. Hence the reason why the word "men" didn't apply to slaves. Does this mean we should all be White Nationalists because our nation was founded upon nativism? And for the most part, it was all Protestant sects in this nation. Not Judaic, Islamic, or Catholic temples. So you would be correct-- it wasn't a Christian nation. It was a Protestant nation. A few of our most admired Founding Fathers were Deists, but that doesn't somehow make all of America a Deist nation.

Besides, anyone that believes in the laughable ideology of Zionism shouldnt' be taken seriously. They think the Ashkenazim race is native to the Levant, is there anything more retarded that that? Seriously. I do agree Jews should move there, but under a peaceful movement.

-- A pagan


PS: Where in the Constitution does it say Public School officials can't mention god?

You've got me mixed up with somebody else. I am not a "White Nationalist". I could care less about national identity for white people. The best example of national identity for white people in this country is our U.S. Senate, and they are the most vile pigs on Earth.

As to your question: "Where in the Constitution does it say Public School officials can't mention god?" It doesn't. Where in the Constituiton does it say "Public School"? Public School officials can mention God, Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, Zeus, Huey, Lewey and Dewey and other mythilogical concepts. But if they want to keep their job they shouldn't force kids to worship them.

LibertyWorker
10-05-2009, 03:38 PM
God.....No thanks


YouTube - God the psycho (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JtxrR6msg)

Bucjason
10-06-2009, 10:04 AM
You've got me mixed up with somebody else. I am not a "White Nationalist". I could care less about national identity for white people. The best example of national identity for white people in this country is our U.S. Senate, and they are the most vile pigs on Earth.

As to your question: "Where in the Constitution does it say Public School officials can't mention god?" It doesn't. Where in the Constituiton does it say "Public School"? Public School officials can mention God, Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, Zeus, Huey, Lewey and Dewey and other mythilogical concepts. But if they want to keep their job they shouldn't force kids to worship them.

"Seperation of church and state" is mentioned NO WHERE in the constitution. Not once.

It was only mentioned in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson, arguing that Government must stay out of the church, not that you must keep all things to do with religion out of government( including even mentioning god). There is a difference.

constituent
10-06-2009, 10:06 AM
yea, but what are they saying about this at gingrichforums.com?

YumYum
10-06-2009, 01:15 PM
"Seperation of church and state" is mentioned NO WHERE in the constitution. Not once.

It was only mentioned in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson, arguing that Government must stay out of the church, not that you must keep all things to do with religion out of government( including even mentioning god). There is a difference.

So we keep government out of religion, but we can have religion in government. I have never heard this rational before. So whose religion do you want to inject into our government? Newt Gingrich's religion???

Bucjason
10-06-2009, 01:30 PM
So we keep government out of religion, but we can have religion in government. I have never heard this rational before. So whose religion do you want to inject into our government? Newt Gingrich's religion???

No. I'm not saying you legislate religion , I'm just saying that it's not illegal for a politician to say he is religious , or that his decisions are guided by his faith.
It's also not illegal to mention god or religion in schools , or to put a christmas tree on public property.

That is not what "seperation of church and state" meant.

The constitution only prohibits forcing a religion on everyone else, or prohibiting a religion from being practiced.

lester1/2jr
10-06-2009, 01:31 PM
Gingrich has been a christian for all of 15 minutes and even thats doubtful