Ron Paul Warns of Violence from Pending Dollar Crisis

[wildfirepower]

Scary times ahead? Perhaps, if you take credence in what Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, says.

Paul, who had a strong grassroots following during the 2008 presidential election, explained on Glenn Beck’s Sept. 30 radio program that perilous times lie ahead due to the Federal Reserve’s loose monetary policy. Host Glenn Beck asked how an Israeli strike against Iran might trigger problems with the American financial system.

“What happens when Israel strikes Iran or Iran has the earth rays and we know that they now have a nuclear weapon, what happens to our financial system at that point?” Beck asked.

The libertarian Paul maintained China would become the world’s financial heavyweight and they were already making preparations to be the world’s top dog.

“I think the Chinese take over,” Paul said. “If there’s a real panic and oil shoots up to a couple of hundred bucks, the Chinese will dump their dollars. Chinese are maneuvering for this. The more we threaten Iran, the stronger the Chinese influence gets because they’re using the dollars that they have earned from us and saved, they have a trillion, and they are starting to buy up assets in Iran and build plants and get involved in their energy. So the whole thing is backfiring on us. We’re getting ready to put tougher sanctions on the Iranians and that will make things that much worse. It won’t help the dissidents in Iran. It’s going to cost us a lot of money, and there will be a bombing and that will be a big, big event. I think it will crash the dollar is what I think it would do

And what does the country look like after the dollar crashes? Not good the Texas congressman said.

“We think it was bad with the financial crisis,” Paul said. “When you have a dollar crisis, the whole thing quits functioning. The checks bounce and literally the federal government’s checks bounce if you have – if inflation goes up

But the situation deteriorates even more Paul – with states leaving the union.

“I think we’re going to have a de facto 10th Amendment, secession,” Paul said “People are just going to ignore the federal government because they won’t – and there’s, you know, a total loss of credibility.”

Beck alluded to media charges and warnings from others that there would be violence and contended the right is being set up to take the fall for it.

“Congressman Paul, the media and even [Rep.] Patrick Kennedy said this, we heard this from two people, Muammar Gaddafi and I believe the other one was Ahmadinejad that both spoke last week and they – we’re hearing it all the time that there’s going to be violence here in America, that people are targeting,” Beck said. “Basically everyone is going to blame this on the right, any kind of violence.”

There would be violence, but not before a dollar crisis happens as some Democratic politicians and media personalities have warned, but afterward Paul said.

“I think that there will be violence,” he explained. “I hope we don’t have to go through, you know, a very violent period of time, but that’s what happens too often when the government runs out of money and runs out of wealth, the people argue over, you know, a shrinking pie and, of course, the people who have to produce are sick and tired of producing.”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ron-paul-warns-of-violence-from-pending-dollar-crisis-says-israel-strike-on-iran-the-trigger.html

[pcosmar]

Many see it coming. Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and many other "leaders" have said it.
Many have voiced it.
It is not "prophecy", but just observation. Watching the storm clouds forming and warning to find shelter.
No one knows exactly how it will go down or when, but there is much speculation on the possible scenarios.

So why is it, that when we try to tell folks here to prepare them selves physically, mentally, and spiritually we are met with hostility?

[Anti Federalist]

Many see it coming. Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and many other "leaders" have said it.
Many have voiced it.
It is not "prophecy", but just observation. Watching the storm clouds forming and warning to find shelter.
No one knows exactly how it will go down or when, but there is much speculation on the possible scenarios.

So why is it, that when we try to tell folks here to prepare them selves physically, mentally, and spiritually we are met with hostility?

Because some folks think they have all the answers.

When those answers cease being applicable or credible, hostility sets in, in no small part due to the sense of "losing control".

Losing control does not begin to describe what's happening here; a full blown, off the rails, over the cliff 100 mph train wreck.

Cassandras, (like us), who point out the obvious; namely "most of us are likely to die when this thing hits the canyon floor, but listen up and you might get a tip or two that could save your life", are not looked kindly upon.

[Anti Federalist]

“What happens when Israel strikes Iran or Iran has the earth rays and we know that they now have a nuclear weapon, what happens to our financial system at that point?” Beck asked.

The "earth rays"??

WTF? :confused:

[BillyDkid]

the thing is, though, I think it's really unlikely there is going to be any sort of abrupt change. It is very rare for a civilization to collapse all at once. The Roman empire was dysfunctional and corrupt for a very long time, it was a long downward spiral. I suspect it will be that way with us too. And I don't doubt that those on top will come out of it on top as they always have. All of the suffering will be borne by the rest of us. I know people have armagedon like fantasies about a new revolution and a new age for America, but I doubt that's how it's going to be. There will be much suffering, but it will be long and drawn out and there will be no justice in it. There never is.

[Deborah K]

Many see it coming. Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and many other "leaders" have said it.
Many have voiced it.
It is not "prophecy", but just observation. Watching the storm clouds forming and warning to find shelter.
No one knows exactly how it will go down or when, but there is much speculation on the possible scenarios.

So why is it, that when we try to tell folks here to prepare them selves physically, mentally, and spiritually we are met with hostility?

Because humans are part Ostrich. It's always been that way. Look at how they laughed at Noah.

[Anti Federalist]

the thing is, though, I think it's really unlikely there is going to be any sort of abrupt change. It is very rare for a civilization to collapse all at once. The Roman empire was dysfunctional and corrupt for a very long time, it was a long downward spiral. I suspect it will be that way with us too. And I don't doubt that those on top will come out of it on top as they always have. All of the suffering will be borne by the rest of us. I know people have armagedon like fantasies about a new revolution and a new age for America, but I doubt that's how it's going to be. There will be much suffering, but it will be long and drawn out and there will be no justice in it. There never is.

I'm thinking that process of empire collapse is speeding up, considerably.

Compare the collapse of the Roman empire to the collapse of the British or Soviet empire.

I think it will happen, literally, overnight.

The regime will lose credibility and be swept out, perhaps in hours.

The 64 million dollar question is: what remains in it's place?

[catdd]

"So why is it, that when we try to tell folks here to prepare them selves physically, mentally, and spiritually we are met with hostility?"

I think it's fear which manifests itself as hostility.

[Rael]

“I think we’re going to have a de facto 10th Amendment, secession,” Paul said “People are just going to ignore the federal government because they won’t – and there’s, you know, a total loss of credibility.”

this

[constituent]

This doesn't have to be a bad thing.

People will always seek homeostasis.

A safe bet for coming out of any collapse scenario "ahead of the game" would be to begin preparing now for a sudden growth in the demand/necessity for efficient local "governments." (I use quotations because government won't be the answer everywhere.)

Waste collection, security, anything that facilitates trade...

If you are really concerned, you are making preparations to influence or seize the reigns of your local municipalities and county governments. Sure, food, ammo and self-defense are great ideas, but knowing how your local government works, who has what power when, and what it will take for you to exert influence on those individuals is what will make all the difference.

The hype aside, that is.

[Deborah K]

This doesn't have to be a bad thing, people seek homeostasis. A safe bet for coming out of any collapse scenario "ahead of the game" would be to begin preparing now for a sudden growth in the demand/necessity for efficient local "governments." (I use quotations because government won't be the answer everywhere.)

If you are really concerned, you are making preparations to influence or seize the reigns of your local municipalities and county governments. Sure, food, ammo and self-defense are great ideas, but knowing how your local government works, who has what power when, and what it will take for you to exert influence on those individuals is what will make all the difference.

All the hype aside, that is.

^ This.

[YumYum]

Because humans are part Ostrich. It's always been that way. Look at how they laughed at Noah.


Noah??

Take a look at this:

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-flood.html

[pcosmar]

Noah??

Take a look at this:

http://ww.talkorigins.org/origin/faq-flood.html

And that has what to do with Ron Paul's point? exactly :confused:

[Deborah K]

Noah??

Take a look at this:

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-flood.html

Even if you don't believe the story, bear in mind that the story itself is many thousands of years old. Then look at the behavior of the people toward Noah. Even if the story is just a fable, it gives evidence to man's nature in that we tend to put our heads in the sand to the point of not only ignoring the obvious signs, but vilifying the messenger.

[LittleLightShining]

This doesn't have to be a bad thing.

People will always seek homeostasis.

A safe bet for coming out of any collapse scenario "ahead of the game" would be to begin preparing now for a sudden growth in the demand/necessity for efficient local "governments." (I use quotations because government won't be the answer everywhere.)

Waste collection, security, anything that facilitates trade...

If you are really concerned, you are making preparations to influence or seize the reigns of your local municipalities and county governments. Sure, food, ammo and self-defense are great ideas, but knowing how your local government works, who has what power when, and what it will take for you to exert influence on those individuals is what will make all the difference.

The hype aside, that is.Great post.

Sort of an aside but I think this was one of the biggest messages of the series Jericho.

[Michigan11]

I'm thinking that process of empire collapse is speeding up, considerably.

Compare the collapse of the Roman empire to the collapse of the British or Soviet empire.

I think it will happen, literally, overnight.

The regime will lose credibility and be swept out, perhaps in hours.

The 64 million dollar question is: what remains in it's place?

Good point, I've come to the same conclusion, events happen much faster today than past times, hard to argue this.

[wildfirepower]

And what does the country look like after the dollar crashes? Not good the Texas congressman said.

“I think that there will be violence,” he explained. “I hope we don’t have to go through, you know, a very violent period of time, but that’s what happens too often when the government runs out of money and runs out of wealth, the people argue over, you know, a shrinking pie and, of course, the people who have to produce are sick and tired of producing.”
I can see World War III.

What will you do if you have AK-47 rifle in your hands but you do not have money to buy food?. Understandably you will rob a bank.

Similarly, USA has the most powerful army and weapons and now USA is bankrupt with $82 Trillions of debt on and off the books. Now if the US dollar is destroyed what will USA do?.

[catdd]

"Understandably you will rob a bank."

Only if the bank has silver and gold.

[stu2002]

bump

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

I'm thinking that process of empire collapse is speeding up, considerably.

Compare the collapse of the Roman empire to the collapse of the British or Soviet empire.

I think it will happen, literally, overnight.

The regime will lose credibility and be swept out, perhaps in hours.

The 64 million dollar question is: what remains in it's place?

Indeed.

It could also be said that it has been happening all around us already, and it is just a matter of time until everything adjusts to the facts.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

I'm thinking that process of empire collapse is speeding up, considerably.

Compare the collapse of the Roman empire to the collapse of the British or Soviet empire.

I think it will happen, literally, overnight.

The regime will lose credibility and be swept out, perhaps in hours.

The 64 million dollar question is: what remains in it's place?

All that prize money won't mean much !

But I will say this, the collapse will not simply be a monetary and political matter.

There will be other components to this which you could say are " results " of our monetary collapse.

These results will not be limited to within our own shores. So if anyone finds consolation in this, the whole world will finally be in the same boat.

This boat will be on EXTREMELY treacherous seas. We have never seen, in our histories, disaster of such magnitude.

[raystone]

This doesn't have to be a bad thing.

People will always seek homeostasis.

A safe bet for coming out of any collapse scenario "ahead of the game" would be to begin preparing now for a sudden growth in the demand/necessity for efficient local "governments." (I use quotations because government won't be the answer everywhere.)

Waste collection, security, anything that facilitates trade...

If you are really concerned, you are making preparations to influence or seize the reigns of your local municipalities and county governments. Sure, food, ammo and self-defense are great ideas, but knowing how your local government works, who has what power when, and what it will take for you to exert influence on those individuals is what will make all the difference.

The hype aside, that is.


Discussion of these preparations deserves its' own thread.

Will libertarians take leadership roles in their communities, promoting liberty, instead of allowing police states ? Or will libertarians close up in their bunkers, and say every man for himself ?

[constituent]

Discussion of these preparations deserves its' own thread.

I think they remain better understated. At least, that's what my experience leads me to believe. You might feel otherwise.



Will libertarians take leadership roles in their communities, promoting liberty, instead of allowing police states ? Or will libertarians close up in their bunkers, and say every man for himself ?

That's a very good question. Sometimes good questions will suffice, if you catch my drift.

[Pauls' Revere]

Even if you don't believe the story, bear in mind that the story itself is many thousands of years old. Then look at the behavior of the people toward Noah. Even if the story is just a fable, it gives evidence to man's nature in that we tend to put our heads in the sand to the point of not only ignoring the obvious signs, but vilifying the messenger.

Bravo Zulu!

:)

[denison]

These results will not be limited to within our own shores. So if anyone finds consolation in this, the whole world will finally be in the same boat.

This boat will be on EXTREMELY treacherous seas. We have never seen, in our histories, disaster of such magnitude.

The whole world won't be in the same boat, because they'll be off the dollar. And you shouldn't find consolation in someone else's suffering. :p

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html

[pcosmar]

. And you shouldn't find consolation in someone else's suffering. :p



Misery loves company. :p

[bunklocoempire]

It’s really hard to believe that Paul is the only one to make a connection between a strike on Iran and the probable China repercussion. It’s NOT hard to believe Paul would be the ONLY one mentioning the possibility.

It doesn’t take a big stretch of the imagination to figure those in the know who already benefit from an insane foreign and monetary policy, are probably perfectly content with a “plan B” waiting in the wings. A “plan B” which entails a new currency.

It is certainly not as exciting as a conspiracy theory, just the simple logical conclusion of a dollar going bust, and, the powers that consistently manipulate the dollar being ready to offer a new currency to the masses who will no doubt be looking for any kind of relief.

A new currency (electronic perhaps) “solution” tailored to satisfy all fears. Global warming, illegal aliens (identification), drugs, terrorist funding, tax evasion, identity fraud, “illegal” weapons, under age drinking, global exchange, campaign reform, etc..

With an inevitable collapse of the dollar (if policies don’t change), I think the usual “printing our way out” is a no go, and the only “solution” will be a new currency. None in the world would be stupid enough to get back in a failed dollar-reborn game, a new globally co-opted currency however lets the powers that be retain control across the globe while at the same time appear to be offering “help” to the masses.

I can easily imagine the Federal Reserve “coming clean” (damage control) and promising to do better with global cooperation/regulation. It’s a global crisis, national regulations didn’t work, it’s too big for any one nation to handle. Global economic crisis and global such and such has been shoved down our throats constantly. We must act. :rolleyes:

The friction that would occur in our own Country has been prepared for. A simple “take the money” or “take the bullet” solution is all ready to go.


Bunkloco

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

The whole world won't be in the same boat, because they'll be off the dollar. And you shouldn't find consolation in someone else's suffering. :p

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html


Dollars, cents, gold, silver, won't mean anything to the events we will face.

You seem to misunderstand my post... I was not celebrating that people will be suffering.

[tpreitzel]

It’s really hard to believe that Paul is the only one to make a connection between a strike on Iran and the probable China repercussion. It’s NOT hard to believe Paul would be the ONLY one mentioning the possibility.

It doesn’t take a big stretch of the imagination to figure those in the know who already benefit from an insane foreign and monetary policy, are probably perfectly content with a “plan B” waiting in the wings. A “plan B” which entails a new currency.

It is certainly not as exciting as a conspiracy theory, just the simple logical conclusion of a dollar going bust, and, the powers that consistently manipulate the dollar being ready to offer a new currency to the masses who will no doubt be looking for any kind of relief.

A new currency (electronic perhaps) “solution” tailored to satisfy all fears. Global warming, illegal aliens (identification), drugs, terrorist funding, tax evasion, identity fraud, “illegal” weapons, under age drinking, global exchange, campaign reform, etc..

With an inevitable collapse of the dollar (if policies don’t change), I think the usual “printing our way out” is a no go, and the only “solution” will be a new currency. None in the world would be stupid enough to get back in a failed dollar-reborn game, a new globally co-opted currency however lets the powers that be retain control across the globe while at the same time appear to be offering “help” to the masses.

I can easily imagine the Federal Reserve “coming clean” (damage control) and promising to do better with global cooperation/regulation. It’s a global crisis, national regulations didn’t work, it’s too big for any one nation to handle. Global economic crisis and global such and such has been shoved down our throats constantly. We must act. :rolleyes:

The friction that would occur in our own Country has been prepared for. A simple “take the money” or “take the bullet” solution is all ready to go.


Bunkloco

Plausible scenario which will likely be proven largely correct.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

The whole world won't be in the same boat, because they'll be off the dollar. And you shouldn't find consolation in someone else's suffering. :p

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html

The whole world will be in the same tragic situation.

Just to make it clear to you, this post has nothing to do with what currency countries happen to be using !

[denison]

Misery loves company. :p

ain't that the truth. :D

[amonasro]

Plausible scenario which will likely be proven largely correct.

Yes but I don't think the politicians are smart enough to unwind it that neatly.