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KramerDSP
10-03-2009, 09:33 PM
Wow. SNL mocking Obama right now.

MRoCkEd
10-03-2009, 09:39 PM
What happened?

KramerDSP
10-03-2009, 09:43 PM
"following is an address by prez of US"

Obama - "good evening and congrats to RIO" (facial grimace)

mandate for change

people on right angry

think im changing country to nazi

look at my record, its very clear what ive done - nothing

think im making it up ?

close gitmo - I said first day I would do it. Closed ? no?

Out of Iraq - Are we ? not last time I checked

Improvements in afghanistan ?its actually worse

Health Care reform ? hell no.

Even went personally to try to get olympics in Chicago. Failed

But anyone who buys american car will get "Chicago 2016" t shirt

Why is Right so riled up?

Left should be mad at me.

I shld have addressed global warming, immigration reform, gays in military, executive power limits, torture prosecutions. Nope.

No, I ve done two things. Jack and Squat.

I can do whatever I want, remember ?

I have majority in both houses of congress.

I could make it mandatory for all gays to marry and make ur cars run on marijuana.

Do I? No.

But its not all bad news. I have a few accomplishments.

Cash for Clunkers stimulated economy. Unfortunately, it's the economy of Japan.

Let's see, what else...

Also, I killed a fly on TV! Remember that ?

I brought a white police officer and black professor together for beer! No one else could do that! You're right, Oprah, but no one else.

Country on road to socialism? Stop saying that

If I could do that, it would be real change.

It took me 4 months to pick out a dog

Put away the tri-corner hats and photoshopped pictures of me as the joker.

If I see this hateful rhetoric, I'm going to have to take drastic action.

No, not really.

Live from New York, It's Saturday Night!!

:eek: :) :D

ForLiberty-RonPaul
10-03-2009, 09:45 PM
wow

KramerDSP
10-03-2009, 09:45 PM
When SNL mocks Obama, you know it's OVER! The love affair is over!

MRoCkEd
10-03-2009, 09:46 PM
hah.. look forward to the tube

HOLLYWOOD
10-03-2009, 09:52 PM
I'm sure Jeffery Immelt GE/NBC CEO and on Obozo's Council of Economic Advisors, will have a talk with Lorne Michaels of SNL tomorrow.

"Live From Fascist New York... It's Saturday Night!"

Epic
10-03-2009, 09:54 PM
they are mocking him for not being socialist/fascist enough.

he hasn't done *enough* to transform America in a socialist state.

RideTheDirt
10-03-2009, 09:55 PM
tubez?!

ghengis86
10-03-2009, 10:04 PM
they are mocking him for not being socialist/fascist enough.

he hasn't done *enough* to transform America in a socialist state.

like the g20 protestors decrying 'capitalism'

or the French marchin for more government checks


who do you think is laughing right now that GE/NBC is lambasting the ONE for not ramming socialism/corportism down Americas throat and the majority of America agrees?

KramerDSP
10-03-2009, 10:04 PM
they are mocking him for not being socialist/fascist enough.

he hasn't done *enough* to transform America in a socialist state.

You're right, but it still shows that the Left is pissed at Obama just as much as the Right is. We have to keep hammering home the message that only ONE person in DC has said the same things for 35+ years.

ghengis86
10-03-2009, 10:12 PM
You're right, but it still shows that the Left is pissed at Obama just as much as the Right is. We have to keep hammering home the message that only ONE person in DC has said the same things for 35+ years.

true, but for opposite and equally wrong reasons.

hopefully this will be an oppertunity to wake people up to the false left/right duopoly

KramerDSP
10-03-2009, 10:24 PM
true, but for opposite and equally wrong reasons.

hopefully this will be an oppertunity to wake people up to the false left/right duopoly

Amen. We have to hammer home the fact that the wars are still going on, Afghanistan is even worse, and that torture and "preventive detention" along with possible Patriot Act renewal are all proof that Obama = Bush 43 when it comes to civil liberties.

Then, and only then (we open more minds with honey than vinegar) do we address the more "hot button" topics.

For myself, as a deaf guy, our community has a huge issue with Cochlear Implants. So my approach when people blast RP for not wanting the federal government to be involved one way or another in stem cell research funding, gay marriage, or any other broad sweeping decision is to say "Ok, you're right. The government needs to start funding for Cochlear Implants too". "Not with my tax dollars!" is the usual response. Then I swoop in and say "See?! Nobody knows best either way. Why get the federal government involved one way or the other?". Let the markets and communities deal with it. If folks want implants for their kids, so be it. If they don't, so be it.

Many of my friends are left-leaning, and they lump him in with the Christian right, so I say 'well, the christian right is upset with him because they want him to support their pet causes across the board from a federal perspective, and he won't do that, either!". That's how we spread the message. Far too many have their eyes shut and fingers poked into their ears the minute hot-button topics come up, since the message has been broadcast to them over and over again that anyone who thinks a certain way about a certain issue is immediately lumped in with everyone else in the rival camp.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
10-03-2009, 10:25 PM
if this was two years ago we'd already have a tube. me needs a tube.

....gimmie

KramerDSP
10-03-2009, 10:32 PM
Not many of us watch SNL on this forum :)

I keep refreshing YouTube, but no luck thus far.

Agnapostate
10-03-2009, 10:39 PM
they are mocking him for not being socialist/fascist enough.

Which one? They're decidedly incompatible. :)

tremendoustie
10-03-2009, 10:56 PM
Which one? They're decidedly incompatible. :)

Meh, no big diff. They're both all powerful governments that do what they want. They're always abusive, and corrupt. It makes no big difference whether their buddies that they enrich at the expense of everyone else are technically part of "corporations" or of government.

tremendoustie
10-03-2009, 11:02 PM
they are mocking him for not being socialist/fascist enough.

he hasn't done *enough* to transform America in a socialist state.

Not all of those fit that description. Ending gitmo, torture, wars, executive privilege, domestic wiretapping, etc are all good things. It's the old B.S. L-R paradigm. The left gets it right when it comes to civil liberties and wars, and the right gets it right when it comes to economic liberties and the economy.

Well, let me revise that statement. Their rhetoric does these things. Their actions show them all to be anti-liberty big government hawks.

Agnapostate
10-03-2009, 11:28 PM
Meh, no big diff. They're both all powerful governments that do what they want. They're always abusive, and corrupt. It makes no big difference whether their buddies that they enrich at the expense of everyone else are technically part of "corporations" or of government.

I do accept the premise that fascism is “the reactionary and terroristic dictatorship of finance capital," (thanks, Reiver), as described by Charles Keserich. However, I've never accepted the USSR et al.'s political regimes' self-descriptions of "socialism" because I'm inclined to be wary of the claims of authoritarians, just as I'd not accept the Communist Party of China's claim to govern a "people's republic." The claims of inclusion of socialist ideology were used to appeal to populist sentiments in both the Leninist states and Nazi Germany for a time, but considering the American Heritage Dictionary's apt definition of "socialism" as "a social system in which the means of producing and distributing goods are owned collectively and political power is exercised by the whole community," party dictatorship was never compatible with this ideology.

YumYum
10-03-2009, 11:48 PM
SNL is making fun of him because he is the first president since Eisenhower to stand up to Israel. You guys sound like neocons when you say that the liberals control the media. The Zionists control the media. Where in the hell do you think SNL is shot at? Boise, Idaho?

tremendoustie
10-03-2009, 11:54 PM
I do accept the premise that fascism is “the reactionary and terroristic dictatorship of finance capital," (thanks, Reiver), as described by Charles Keserich. However, I've never accepted the USSR et al.'s political regimes' self-descriptions of "socialism" because I'm inclined to be wary of the claims of authoritarians, just as I'd not accept the Communist Party of China's claim to govern a "people's republic." The claims of inclusion of socialist ideology were used to appeal to populist sentiments in both the Leninist states and Nazi Germany for a time, but considering the American Heritage Dictionary's apt definition of "socialism" as "a social system in which the means of producing and distributing goods are owned collectively and political power is exercised by the whole community," party dictatorship was never compatible with this ideology.

"Collective ownership" is a euphemism for government ownership. Fascism, communism, full-scale socialism, dictatorships, etc, are all just different flavors of the same thing: A government that controls everything and does whatever the heck it wants. And this absurd power over people's lives and finances invariably corrupts. The people wielding this power inevitably abuse it for personal gain -- not that there could be an appropriate use of such power anyway. In "communist" countries the beneficiaries are government and party apparatchiks, while in "fascist" countries they're favored corporations, which really might as well be considered part of government anyway.

The real spectrum is not left-right, but freedom-tyranny. On one side, force is not initiated against peaceful people. The right of people to make their own choices with their lives and finances, as long as they don't harm others, is respected. On the other side, violence and the threat of it is continually used against peaceful people, to control both their lives and their finances.

Being a peaceful person means respecting the choices of others, and not threatening them in order to control their lives.

Agnapostate
10-03-2009, 11:59 PM
"Collective ownership" is a euphemism for government ownership.

It's considered one in the aftermath of the unchallenged acceptance of the premise that the USSR et al. were "socialist" countries, despite the conflicts of their political systems with socialist ideology. However, this necessarily fails to consider stateless socialism (anarchism) for the first thing, and doesn't consider the obvious conflicts between the interests of a dictatorial political regime and the interests of the general public for a second thing.

james1906
10-04-2009, 01:02 AM
Anyone find a youtube yet? I'm only finding Lady Gaga's performance.

angelatc
10-04-2009, 01:32 AM
When SNL mocks Obama, you know it's OVER! The love affair is over!

Nah - they're just goading him for not being socialist enough.

james1906
10-04-2009, 01:39 AM
YouTube - SNL Pokes Fun at Obama for his Lack of Accomplishments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC_yktBvb7c&feature=player_embedded)

Mitt Romneys sideburns
10-04-2009, 02:28 AM
Though I do find it funny that the Republican congress actively works to make sure he gets nothing done, then uses the fact that he hasnt done anything as a criticism.

And I couldnt help but think that was the worst Obama impression I have heard him do yet.

StudentForPaul08
10-04-2009, 02:41 AM
Though I do find it funny that the Republican congress actively works to make sure he gets nothing done, then uses the fact that he hasnt done anything as a criticism.

And I couldnt help but think that was the worst Obama impression I have heard him do yet.

I agree it sounds/looked NOTHING like Obama...what he was saying was funny...but a horrible impersonation

rp08orbust
10-04-2009, 02:53 AM
SNL is making fun of him because he is the first president since Eisenhower to stand up to Israel.

You mean standing up to them like this? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/02/president-obama-has-reaffirmed-a-4-decade-old-secr/

SimpleName
10-04-2009, 04:29 AM
That was remarkably not funny. Bordering on not being an impersonation at all. But some interesting stuff he said. I don't think there was any partisanship involved. It was just outright annoyance with government for not getting things done. Something all of us on this forum and the vast majority of everybody in the country shares. If only they had somebody as good as Darrell Hammond (i hope thats his name) who could do obama. Hammond's Clinton is unforgettable.

tremendoustie
10-04-2009, 04:43 AM
It's considered one in the aftermath of the unchallenged acceptance of the premise that the USSR et al. were "socialist" countries, despite the conflicts of their political systems with socialist ideology. However, this necessarily fails to consider stateless socialism (anarchism) for the first thing, and doesn't consider the obvious conflicts between the interests of a dictatorial political regime and the interests of the general public for a second thing.

If someone determines and administers the "interests of the general public", that is your government.

It sounds like you support "stateless socialism". What does this entail? Will you respect people's personal choices, and property rights, or will you use violence to control the lives and finances of other people?

YumYum
10-04-2009, 11:18 AM
You mean standing up to them like this? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/02/president-obama-has-reaffirmed-a-4-decade-old-secr/

He is letting them keep their nukes to try to get back in their good graces, but to no avail. He told them to stop the settlements in the West bank, no president has been so direct. The Zionists will never forgive him, no matter what concessions he makes with them now. The Zionist media is going to take this man down, making him look more foolish than he is. Even those that can't stand Obama, but have any heart, will feel sorry for him when the Zionist get through with him. Anybody need a hankerchief?:D

Mitt Romneys sideburns
10-04-2009, 11:28 AM
That was remarkably not funny. Bordering on not being an impersonation at all. But some interesting stuff he said. I don't think there was any partisanship involved. It was just outright annoyance with government for not getting things done. Something all of us on this forum and the vast majority of everybody in the country shares. If only they had somebody as good as Darrell Hammond (i hope thats his name) who could do obama. Hammond's Clinton is unforgettable.

He usually does an OK job. I dont know why he was so far off last night.

NYgs23
10-04-2009, 12:25 PM
Most of the stuff was stuff we can agree on: closing Gitmo, getting out of Iraq, torture prosecutions. Of course, I would argue that Obama hasn't been inactive so much as he's been actively continuing the Bush policies.

I haven't found SNL funny in years. The impersonations have been abysmal. After Ferrell left they went through about six dozen Bush impersonator and they were all lousy. And Obama? Sheesh! It's not hard to impersonate Obama: just use a deep voice, speak in short hurried bursts separated by awkward pauses and 'uhs,' say nothing but truisms.

Like this: "Uh...here'sthething...uh...we...asAmericans...uh.. .mustcometogether...and, uh...maketheworldabetterplace...forthefuture..."

Aratus
10-04-2009, 12:57 PM
"following is an address by prez of US"

Obama - "good evening and congrats to RIO" (facial grimace)

mandate for change

people on right angry

think im changing country to nazi

look at my record, its very clear what ive done - nothing

think im making it up ?

close gitmo - I said first day I would do it. Closed ? no?

Out of Iraq - Are we ? not last time I checked

Improvements in afghanistan ?its actually worse

Health Care reform ? hell no.

Even went personally to try to get olympics in Chicago. Failed

But anyone who buys american car will get "Chicago 2016" t shirt

Why is Right so riled up?

Left should be mad at me.

I shld have addressed global warming, immigration reform, gays in military, executive power limits, torture prosecutions. Nope.

No, I ve done two things. Jack and Squat.

I can do whatever I want, remember ?

I have majority in both houses of congress.

I could make it mandatory for all gays to marry and make ur cars run on marijuana.

Do I? No.

But its not all bad news. I have a few accomplishments.

Cash for Clunkers stimulated economy. Unfortunately, it's the economy of Japan.

Let's see, what else...

Also, I killed a fly on TV! Remember that ?

I brought a white police officer and black professor together for beer! No one else could do that! You're right, Oprah, but no one else.

Country on road to socialism? Stop saying that

If I could do that, it would be real change.

It took me 4 months to pick out a dog

Put away the tri-corner hats and photoshopped pictures of me as the joker.

If I see this hateful rhetoric, I'm going to have to take drastic action.

No, not really.

Live from New York, It's Saturday Night!!

:eek: :) :D


When SNL mocks Obama, you know it's OVER! The love affair is over!


they are mocking him for not being socialist/fascist enough.

he hasn't done *enough* to transform America in a socialist state.


YouTube - SNL Pokes Fun at Obama for his Lack of Accomplishments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC_yktBvb7c&feature=player_embedded)


the banner unfurled on mt. rushmore hinted at an activism coming to a head...

Dreamofunity
10-04-2009, 01:57 PM
And I couldnt help but think that was the worst Obama impression I have heard him do yet.

He didn't even try to sound like him.

squarepusher
10-04-2009, 02:06 PM
lol

KramerDSP
10-04-2009, 08:10 PM
Maybe he was afraid he'd be called racist. :)

Off topic, but I've always wondered if SNL would ever do a Ron Paul skit if he ever got big enough.

Imperial
10-04-2009, 08:16 PM
they are mocking him for not being socialist/fascist enough.

he hasn't done *enough* to transform America in a socialist state.

Wrong way to look at it. It didn't comment on if socialism is good or bad at all. It just showed that nothing has changed, which is true.

Obama isn't socialist. He has simply allowed corporatism to remain entrenched.

tonesforjonesbones
10-04-2009, 08:38 PM
lol it seems like some lefty's on here are upset with saturday night live for actually hitting the nail on the head lol...that was pretty darn funny to me and I usually hate SNL..lol TONES