I just saw Traficant on Hannity....

[Original_Intent]

It's like Johnny Cash and Chuck Norris had a baby.

I always used to like Traficant in Congress, but I absolutley loved how he said that AIPAC controls our foreign policy and wouldn't back down when Hannity challenged him on it and called him a conspiracy nutjob.

He basically said I was in Congress for years, I have seen it, and you don't know wtf you are talking about. The end. I also said "I am not proposing it, I am telling it I have seen it." He also said that he was not anti Israel or anti Semite and would be the first to defend Israel if it was attacked. All he was saying was they control our ofreing policy and nothing major gets thru the House without people asking "How does Israel feel about it?"

Very good segment.

[KramerDSP]

http://forum.grasscity.com/politics/457309-james-traficant.html

YouTube - James Traficant Hearing; Kick Them In The Crotch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5Os1400uc&feature=player_embedded#t=26)

YouTube - Americans Fear Their Government (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l3eADXo6bI)

Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’

Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money?’ The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.

It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country?

Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.

There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable consideration." Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice because they have so much wealth already.

Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact, the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock Trust" in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870), although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [1:9:3]

The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.

Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve Act for ever paying the principle.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)
Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.

In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master for another.

This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it’s easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.

Why don’t more people own their properties outright?

Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less?

We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life. Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.

America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights. This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order! Wake up America! Take back your Country."

[ItsTime]

What year were those youtubes from?

[KramerDSP]

I don't know but almost certainly they were from his "impeachment" hearing.

[Romulus]

tubez

[sluggo]

YouTube - Jim Traficant interviewed on Sean Hannity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLosf9tH3w)

[fletcher]

God I hate Hannity. He is still claiming we are at war in Iraq because 'they killed 3000 Americans.' It's scary to think about how misinformed his viewers are.

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[muh_roads]

what year were those youtubes from?

2002

[Michigan11]

God I hate Hannity. He is still claiming we are at war in Iraq because 'they killed 3000 Americans.' It's scary to think about misinformed his viewers are.

Yeah what I was thinking. I can't stand to listen to Hannity - I get so damn angry. He's such a f'n ....

[YumYum]

God I hate Hannity. He is still claiming we are at war in Iraq because 'they killed 3000 Americans.' It's scary to think about misinformed his viewers are.

Its scary to think that he has viewers.

[BuddyRey]

Woohoo! Thanks to whoever uploaded this Tube!

YouTube - Jim Traficant interviewed by Sean Hannity - Fox News (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLosf9tH3w)

[SWATH]

Goddamn, Hannity is such a fuckwit.

[revolutionary8]

I just saw Traficant on Hannity....it's like johnny cash and chuck norris had a baby.

rotflmfao

[Uriel999]

I don't know what traficant believes in overall, but damn good job for being right on this issue!

[devil21]

Its scary to think that he has viewers.

A lot of them! And they follow every word that comes out of his mouth. Very scary.

Kudos to Traficant. The guy was a Congressman for 17 years. I think I'd trust his word about how much power AIPAC et al has over Congress. I wonder if his criminal case wasn't just to get him to shut up and disappear while the Afghan and Iraq invasions were undertaken. You can bet that MOST Congresspeople could easily be tried and convicted for bribery these days. If he was selected then there's a reason and this looks like the reason.

[YumYum]

A lot of them! And they follow every word that comes out of his mouth. Very scary.

Kudos to Traficant. The guy was a Congressman for 17 years. I think I'd trust his word about how much power AIPAC et al has over Congress. I wonder if his criminal case wasn't just to get him to shut up and disappear while the Afghan and Iraq invasions were undertaken. You can bet that MOST Congresspeople could easily be tried and convicted for bribery these days. If he was selected then there's a reason and this looks like the reason.

Who is Hannity's target audience? He is a Catholic, so it can't be Evangelicals, can it? Another question I have, after watching Traficant tell Hannity the way it is, is why, when Murdoch is a pro-zionist, would he give air time to Traficant to make a great case against the Israel Lobby?

[devil21]

Who is Hannity's target audience? He is a Catholic, so it can't be Evangelicals, can it? Another question I have, after watching Traficant tell Hannity the way it is, is why, when Murdoch is a pro-zionist, would he give air time to Traficant to make a great case against the Israel Lobby?

Hannity's personal religion doesn't mean much. He's a paid actor. But yes evangelicals are his target audience. Some people are very able to separate their jobs from their religion. Those that can get paid very well to do it if they can use it to further an agenda.

Murdoch is definitely a Zionist but it's not like he has anything with do with the day to day operations of Fox News. Considering Hannity's following (those that listen to his radio show and watch the tv show and then regurgitate his talking points without thought), I think the interview was an attempt to follow up the radio show and work to discredit Traficant's views even further. Throw out the "kooky, conspiracy theorist, anti-semite" line a few more times. After all, if you say something enough times it becomes true right? ;) It's just reinforcing the same rhetoric we heard many times during the 2008 election season. Never pass up the chance to call someone an anti-semite!

What I find the most interesting is that Traficant is even being supportive of Israel in this interview yet Hannity still attacks and labels him an anti-semite SIMPLY for suggesting the Israeli lobby's power over Congress. That tells me that even the suggestion of Israel being anything more than a "tiny weak little beacon of democracy amongst a land of savages that we must support forever" is verboten. How many people do you think truly understand the power Israel holds, both militarily and politically? I bet not too many.

[lester1/2jr]

hannity is like some kind of commie gangster

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[pinkmandy]

Goddamn, Hannity is such a fuckwit.

Seriously. ITA.

I wonder how Traficant is going after the IRS and Justice Dept? That should be interesting.

[max]

(Leans forward)...

Sean.... I am not suggesting it.... I am telling it....

OMG I fell out of my chair that was so awesome.

Third Party for President 2012 ???????

Not that I dont love RP above all others....but we need a charismatic flame thrower to get people fired up....

Ventura/Traficante

[moostraks]

Sorry job to malign Traficant as a kook. Who knows better Hannity or someone who was there? Considering the average intelligence of americans, I am sure the media can spin this as how probing the media is and use Traficant's past to make folks question his logic. They would be wrong, imo. I lean towards first hand accounts rather than arm chair analysis.

Traficant should run again. If what I have viewed of his support holds true, he will be well within the margin of possibility if not probabilty especially for Tim Ryan's spot who has made a mockery of listening to his constituents. He is well loved, especially by the downtrodden here in his district.

[sluggo]

Interesting that Hannity couldn't present any facts to support his case.

Name calling and deceitful conversational reframing are the only tools at his disposal.

[YumYum]

What I find the most interesting is that Traficant is even being supportive of Israel in this interview yet Hannity still attacks and labels him an anti-semite SIMPLY for suggesting the Israeli lobby's power over Congress. That tells me that even the suggestion of Israel being anything more than a "tiny weak little beacon of democracy amongst a land of savages that we must support forever" is verboten. How many people do you think truly understand the power Israel holds, both militarily and politically? I bet not too many.

More people than the Israel lobby would want knowing. I think the book "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy", by J. Mearsheimer and S. Walt, is an awesome read because it is a scholarly book that exposes who makes up the Israel Lobby and how they control our government. And the Internet has been the Zionists worse nightmare. Before the net, the only people who would speak out against Israel's policies were White supremacists and Muslims; now it is scientists, doctors, lawyers, historians, university professors, and even anti-Zionist Jews, who are courageously exposing the hold that Israel has on our politicians. I believe that Traficant's claim of supporting Israel, and at the same time being against Israel's domination of our government, is going to reach a very broad audience. His assertion that "Americans are sick and tired of Israel controlling our government" strikes hard. The majority of Americans like Britain, but how would we feel if Britain controlled our government lock, stock and barrel? My favorite observation from him:"The Israel Lobby's complete control of our government is going to hurt Israel." The Zionists don't get it.

[SWATH]

Trafficant: I was on the inside in congress for 17 years and I have seen how AIPAC controls our policies worldwide.

Hannity: As an outsider, I can't see how that is the case looking in from from the outside, so therefore with all the power vested in me from being a dipshit talk radio entertainer, I deem this intel that has been laid upon my ears by an actually insider, to be a kooky anti-semetic conspiracy theory.

[max]

Interesting that Hannity couldn't present any facts to support his case.

Name calling and deceitful conversational reframing are the only tools at his disposal.

ironic...given how Hannity bashes the "left" for calling criticism of ACORN or Obama "racist"

[max]

William Fulbright - US Senator, and Chairman of the US Foreign Relations committee - said this before a national television audience as a guest on ABC's Face the Nation,:

"Israel controls the United States Senate. We should be more concerned about the United States' interests."

He was defeated in the next election by an AIPAC funded tool.....

[YumYum]

Third Party for President 2012 ???????

Not that I dont love RP above all others....but we need a charismatic flame thrower to get people fired up....

Ventura/Traficante

Ron Paul has served, and continues to serve as a wonderful patriot for us supporters that love liberty and freedom. But, Traficant is the next level of what we need from a leader. He expresses exactly the frustration and rage that many Americans are feeling, but are too afraid to openly admit. One of the reasons that Ron Paul was successfull is because his calm, smiling, and easy manner made him appear to not be a "threat", even though his message was not mainstream. He set a great example by never personally attacking his opponent. This has now got to change. We need a "prick type", who will take no shit, to tell it the way it is. His time in prison well actually make him more of a hero than hurt him. He stood up against our corrupt government all by himself. Not even Ron Paul voted "No" in opposition in expelling him, which I was suprised to learn, since Traficant was also against the Fed. Americans are going to look back on this chapter in history with shame.

[constituent]

Wow, I remember all of this going down, and then it just dropped off my radar. I'm glad to hear he is back in the game.

IMO, his experience would make him a great spokesperson for prison reform (if he's into that), among other pro-liberty causes.

Whatever he chooses to do, he's got my support.

(He can start by registering an account at libertyforest.com!)

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[YumYum]

I wish we had some contact info on him to do some of our own grassroots interviews and really flush out his positions beyond the few sound bites we are going to get out of old media.

I agree. He needs to do what every other politician has done when running: write a book. I am following this guy like a hawk. He has too much to offer this country. I can see him leading the next phase of the revolution.

[sratiug]

Got to love this guy!