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09-30-2007, 03:18 PM
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09-30-2007, 03:24 PM
If this is the mindset of the average republican I am scared for our country:

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=13340911&posted=1#post13340911

Link didnt work?

catwoman
09-30-2007, 03:24 PM
I love (not) the guy/gal who says: "There are some more nations we need to force to accept freedom.".

That just makes no sense at all. Forcing people to accept freedom? Just exactly what does that mean?

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09-30-2007, 03:26 PM
Spreading 'democracy' and 'freedom' forcefully IS socialism. Trying to nation-build and policing foreign nations for the good of the collective instead of being self-reliant.

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09-30-2007, 03:26 PM
Or this one: "I wish he's shut up about the constitution."

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09-30-2007, 03:26 PM
Link didnt work?

It worked for me.

dircha
09-30-2007, 03:28 PM
Thread deleted.

Now it's off to GITMO with you!

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09-30-2007, 03:30 PM
I think it would be interesting if members of fredthompsonforum.com were to coordinate an effort to head over to the hannity forums and celebrate the gospel of neo-conservativism with its denizens.

Hmm...

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09-30-2007, 03:31 PM
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steph3n
09-30-2007, 03:31 PM
singing to the church choir!

I think it would be interesting if members of fredthompsonforum.com were to coordinate an effort to head over to the hannity forums and celebrate the gospel of neo-conservativism with its denizens.

Hmm...

catwoman
09-30-2007, 03:33 PM
I still had a window open with the first page of that thread, so I copied and pasted. This is just the first page.

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The UN did NOT find weapons of mass destruction
WE did NOT find weapons of mass destruction
Iraq did NOT attack us on 9/11 or have anything to do with it
Iraq was our ALLY against Iran, and we gave them massive support. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._su..._Iran-Iraq_war

The people who say it will be a disaster if we pull out were the same people saying that it would be a cakewalk when we went in. So, as a republican who voted for Bush, I ask you why I shouldn't vote for Ron Paul in 2008? He's the only republican willing to end the war that makes no sense.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 2:25 pm
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The UN did NOT find weapons of mass destruction
WE did NOT find weapons of mass destruction
Iraq did NOT attack us on 9/11 or have anything to do with it
Iraq was our ALLY against Iran, and we gave them massive support. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._su..._Iran-Iraq_war

The people who say it will be a disaster if we pull out were the same people saying that it would be a cakewalk when we went in. So, as a republican who voted for Bush, I ask you why I shouldn't vote for Ron Paul in 2008? He's the only republican willing to end the war that makes no sense.
You mean he is the only Republican making that claim without enough background to know the consequences. Ask him the consequences of pulling out. Then ask him the consequences of staying. Then weigh the information. Otherwise you are voting for a Dem idea in Rep clothing...
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Old September 30th, 2007, 2:33 pm
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Actually, the reason we're still in Iraq is because their Falafel's are much better than the Egyptian ta'meya's. We need to bring about a peaceful alliance with the Iraqis so that we can have an unlimited supply of their Falafel's and we can finally get rid of the nasty la'meya's once and for all.

Also, one other thing: Their weather is outstanding. Where else on Earth can you bake in 130* F temp in body armour and a ACH? Where else can you enjoy the aroma of the local residence burning their human waste? Where else can you sit quietly by the banks of their rivers while the (former) local residents go floating by...well, most of them anyway. Some of them have had parts of them sawed off.


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The UN did NOT find weapons of mass destruction
WE did NOT find weapons of mass destruction
Iraq did NOT attack us on 9/11 or have anything to do with it
Iraq was our ALLY against Iran, and we gave them massive support. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._su..._Iran-Iraq_war

The people who say it will be a disaster if we pull out were the same people saying that it would be a cakewalk when we went in. So, as a republican who voted for Bush, I ask you why I shouldn't vote for Ron Paul in 2008? He's the only republican willing to end the war that makes no sense.
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You mean he is the only Republican making that claim without enough background to know the consequences. Ask him the consequences of pulling out. Then ask him the consequences of staying. Then weigh the information. Otherwise you are voting for a Dem idea in Rep clothing...
He's answered these questions. If we pull out: Hundreds of billions will be saved and can be invested in America, the resentment of the muslim world will decrease, we can bring home badly needed troops and border guards to protect our OWN borders, and save many American lives.

No one can predict the future, but the people who predict catastrophe if we pull out are the same people that said Saddam had WMDs and that Iraq would be a cakewalk. I don't trust them any longer, and think the Republican party needs a change in direction. That is why I think I'll vote for Paul.

He's no peacenik democrat btw. He voted for the operation in Afghanistan without hesitation. Afghanistan had open and obvious al qaeda training camps who claimed direct responsiblity for 9/11. This was a sensible move on his part and shows he willing to fight if necessary. However, as I said above the Iraq war just isn't making sense and had nothing to do with 9/11. So I respect Paul for his reasoning and voting against it.
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Are you really just trying to get attention or something. I know real, thinking people don't feel this way. You're either a complete moron that has no conception of what is really happening in Iraq, or you're just trying to get attention.


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He's answered these questions. If we pull out: Hundreds of billions will be saved and can be invested in America, the resentment of the muslim world will decrease, we can bring home badly needed troops and border guards to protect our OWN borders, and save many American lives.

No one can predict the future, but the people who predict catastrophe if we pull out are the same people that said Saddam had WMDs and that Iraq would be a cakewalk. I don't trust them any longer, and think the Republican party needs a change in direction. That is why I think I'll vote for Paul.

He's no peacenik democrat btw. He voted for the operation in Afghanistan without hesitation. Afghanistan had open and obvious al qaeda training camps who claimed direct responsiblity for 9/11. This was a sensible move on his part and shows he willing to fight if necessary. However, as I said above the Iraq war just isn't making sense and had nothing to do with 9/11. So I respect Paul for his reasoning and voting against it.
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Are you really just trying to get attention or something. I know real, thinking people don't feel this way. You're either a complete moron that has no conception of what is really happening in Iraq, or you're just trying to get attention.
I'm trying to start a discussion. I've voted republican in the past and will continue voting republican, and even supported the war initially when caught up in the furor surrounding 9/11. But I have questions about the current direction of the party. Call that attention getting if you want.

Instead of insulting me and implying that I'm unthinking and not real, why don't you refute my points and Paul's arguments. I'm pretty thick-skinned and can handle it. My vote for Ron Paul is by no means set in stone, but responses like yours make me wonder if it shouldn't be.
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Do you want to know what was going on before the war with Iraq? I was in Kawait and Saudi before and after the war. Did Sadaam stop doing bad **** after the first gulf war? NOPE. We've been dicking around with him for over 10 years. before this war.
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Do you want to know what was going on before the war with Iraq? I was in Kawait and Saudi before and after the war. Did Sadaam stop doing bad **** after the first gulf war? NOPE. We've been dicking around with him for over 10 years. before this war.
Saddam is dead and his army is gone. No weapons of mass destruction were found, and no Iraqi ties to 9/11 were found. Afghanistan was directly tied to the 9/11 attacks so lets keep troops there, but why not bring them home from Iraq and save hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of American lives?

Atrocities worse than Saddam's are carried out all the time by the repressive leaders in pretty much all African countries, and southeast Asian countries more recently. So by your reasoning we should invade all those countries and spend hundreds of billions of dollar times ten building up new regimes there as well? I think that'd be a disaterous foreign policy stance.
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I ask you why I shouldn't vote for Ron Paul in 2008?
I'll tell you why. He has no grasp of the dangers we face in a post 911 world. What angered me about Ron Paul was when he started spouting off about the unconstitutionality of defending a UN resolution, and nation building without a declaration of war. He also tried to say that pre-emptive war goes against our Christian values of a just war!!!!

It angers me when he mentioned how we are unconstitutionally going in debt when we install rulers (like the Shah of Iran), arming half the world, and then borrowing money from China to take these same leaders down when they go bad (Iraq and the Taliban). What are we supposed to do let them turn our weapons on us? We need defense contractor to improve our economy

He also stated that it's unconstitutional to place our grand kids in debt by giving foreign aid to both Israel and their enemies the Saudis and Egyptians.

I wish he's shut up about the constitution. Our founders had no idea of how we need to keep our presence all across the world.

I really get mad when Paul speaks out about how our military is spread too thin and that we should care less about the Iran / Iraq border and worry more about the Mex / American border. Doesn't he realize that plans are in the works in his own party to get rid of our southern border.

And now we may have to enter a state of emergency to disarm our citizens when they speak out against our empire. Don't they realize it's up to us to support our leaders during times of nation building. Should we live like the Swiss!?? I mean come on Paulites!!!

Sorry about my rant. You don't want to get me started Paul!
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Old September 30th, 2007, 3:52 pm
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He's answered these questions. If we pull out: Hundreds of billions will be saved and can be invested in America, the resentment of the muslim world will decrease, we can bring home badly needed troops and border guards to protect our OWN borders, and save many American lives.

No one can predict the future, but the people who predict catastrophe if we pull out are the same people that said Saddam had WMDs and that Iraq would be a cakewalk. I don't trust them any longer, and think the Republican party needs a change in direction. That is why I think I'll vote for Paul.

He's no peacenik democrat btw. He voted for the operation in Afghanistan without hesitation. Afghanistan had open and obvious al qaeda training camps who claimed direct responsiblity for 9/11. This was a sensible move on his part and shows he willing to fight if necessary. However, as I said above the Iraq war just isn't making sense and had nothing to do with 9/11. So I respect Paul for his reasoning and voting against it.
So you'd rather allow Saddam to remain in power. A dictator who was not only a threat to the world but murdered his own people.
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09-30-2007, 03:33 PM
Who cares? I'm done with people who ride ignorance. I'm sick of people saying 'he can't win'. They can eat their words.

It's not about winning. It's about making a decision. A decision to save our country. If other people are willing to screw us by downplaying Ron Paul, I say screw them.

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09-30-2007, 03:34 PM
Wow. That's like fredthompsonforum.com, but without the satire.

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Here's the 2nd page. The 3rd is coming next.

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The UN did NOT find weapons of mass destruction
WE did NOT find weapons of mass destruction
Iraq did NOT attack us on 9/11 or have anything to do with it
Iraq was our ALLY against Iran, and we gave them massive support. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._su..._Iran-Iraq_war

The people who say it will be a disaster if we pull out were the same people saying that it would be a cakewalk when we went in. So, as a republican who voted for Bush, I ask you why I shouldn't vote for Ron Paul in 2008? He's the only republican willing to end the war that makes no sense.
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Please, educate yourself. The war in Iraq is not only about Iraq. Nor is Afghanistan. It is too simplistic to sit there and point out WMDs, ties to 9/11, and your lack of understanding about who our allies were. We are fighting a global war against terrorism, not just those who were responsible for terrorism. It is important to stand our ground now before it becomes too late.

As far as Iraq goes, how we got there is irrelevant. You can argue all you wat about WMDs, support for Al Qaeda, etc... The fact still remains that we are fighting terrorists in Iraq. THAT is why we are still in Iraq. If this does not make sense to you, nothing ever will and you are being dishonest about want to konw why we are there.

Rather than searching Wiki for your information, I suggest you look into understanding the perspective of our enemy. Specifically Bin Laden, his mentor, and those would be UBLs out there. To them this Jihad (struggle) will go on long beyond their lives. They will be long dead (are far as they are concerned) before their final objectives are ever met.

This is why I will not vote for Paul. He does not understand the treat and he does not have a clue about what this war is about. Instead he is trying to find someone to blame within the US. He is too ignorant to understand that this conflict started long before the US was ever a country. Today we just happen to be the biggest kid on the block which threatens the ultimate goals of the islamic extremists.

Educate yourself and you will eventually understand you do not understand this war or how ignorrant Ron Paull truely is.

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He's answered these questions. If we pull out: Hundreds of billions will be saved and can be invested in America, the resentment of the muslim world will decrease, we can bring home badly needed troops and border guards to protect our OWN borders, and save many American lives.

No one can predict the future, but the people who predict catastrophe if we pull out are the same people that said Saddam had WMDs and that Iraq would be a cakewalk. I don't trust them any longer, and think the Republican party needs a change in direction. That is why I think I'll vote for Paul.

He's no peacenik democrat btw. He voted for the operation in Afghanistan without hesitation. Afghanistan had open and obvious al qaeda training camps who claimed direct responsiblity for 9/11. This was a sensible move on his part and shows he willing to fight if necessary. However, as I said above the Iraq war just isn't making sense and had nothing to do with 9/11. So I respect Paul for his reasoning and voting against it.
Again, you need to educate yourself. The job of the military is not to patrol the border. By law, we cannot do this. Ron Paul is making an empty promise when he tells you he will do this.

Iraq is not ready to take care of themselves and until they are, we need to stay and help.
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I'm trying to start a discussion. I've voted republican in the past and will continue voting republican, and even supported the war initially when caught up in the furor surrounding 9/11. But I have questions about the current direction of the party. Call that attention getting if you want.

Instead of insulting me and implying that I'm unthinking and not real, why don't you refute my points and Paul's arguments. I'm pretty thick-skinned and can handle it. My vote for Ron Paul is by no means set in stone, but responses like yours make me wonder if it shouldn't be.
You keep repeating the fact you voted Republican... So what? I could care less and it doesn't make you any smarter. This war is not and should not be about political parties but rather right and wrong. We were right in invading Iraq and we continue to do right by staying there until they can help themselves and be a TRUE ally to the US.
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So you'd rather allow Saddam to remain in power. A dictator who was not only a threat to the world but murdered his own people.
So should we go into every African or Southeast Asian country with an evil dictator that has carried out genocide and rebuild their countries? We'd go bankrupt in a year. Saddam is dead, and his army is gone. Mission accomplished -- let's bring our boys home.
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This is a war discussion thread first and foremost. I would think you'd welcome open debate, instead of trying to bury it in another thread. What's your agenda?
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The UN did NOT find weapons of mass destruction
WE did NOT find weapons of mass destruction
Iraq did NOT attack us on 9/11 or have anything to do with it
Iraq was our ALLY against Iran, and we gave them massive support. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._su..._Iran-Iraq_war

The people who say it will be a disaster if we pull out were the same people saying that it would be a cakewalk when we went in. So, as a republican who voted for Bush, I ask you why I shouldn't vote for Ron Paul in 2008? He's the only republican willing to end the war that makes no sense.
We're still in Iraq because if we pulled out now Iraq would become an Iranian shiite client state.
That would allow the creation of the first Islamic super state with the second largest oil reserves in the world.


We should never have gone in. Bush was a fool to have done so, in my opinion. There were, and are, much juicier targets for any war on terror- Iran, Saudi Arabia and North Korea to name three.

We are there. The genie is out of the bottle. We're like the little boy with his finger in the dike- we can't turn it loose.

I think our best choice is to secure 99 year leases on one or more massive military installations that can be entirely self sufficient.

Populate them with enough military presence to be able to take care of Iran, if need be.

Then we should pull the rest of what we have out and let the Iraqis eat each other.
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This is a war discussion thread first and foremost. I would think you'd welcome open debate, instead of trying to bury it in another thread. What's your agenda?
Actually... on further review (thanks to the wonders of Instant-Replay) I am deleting this thread and banning the OP as a retread on a proxy.
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So should we go into every African or Southeast Asian country with an evil dictator that has carried out genocide and rebuild their countries? We'd go bankrupt in a year. Saddam is dead, and his army is gone. Mission accomplished -- let's bring our boys home.
This is a complete logical cop out. Your conclusion that because these other countries in Africa are in conflict why only Iraq is flawed. These African nations do not currently have an ongoing ceasefire agreement with the US, we do not have national interests there as we did in Iraq, and the turmoil found there has made it hard for the Terrorist regimes to make operational strongholds there.

By the way, the US IS in Africa working to keep the peace there as well. Once again, educate yourself and look into the fact that the US is about to stand up a new Command (African Command). The last time a geographical command was stood up in the DoD was when we stood up Northern Command in the US. You also might note some recent special operations which have taken place in Somalia recently.

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So should we go into every African or Southeast Asian country with an evil dictator that has carried out genocide and rebuild their countries? We'd go bankrupt in a year. Saddam is dead, and his army is gone. Mission accomplished -- let's bring our boys home.
If someone was raping your neighbor's wife would you not do anything to help. Of course we need to go in. We have troops in 136 nations. There are some more nations we need to force to accept freedom. And your man Paul wants to abolishe the IRS!!! How are we going to beable to do this with him in the whitehouse. Educate yourself. 911 changed everything.

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I've been banned and my thread is deleted. Here is the summary:

In very polite terms I asked : "why are we still in Iraq"

a. We didnt find any WMDs
b. They had nothing to do with 9/11
c. They were our ally against iran, and we gave them massive support

The responses consisted of personal attack, insults, and verbatim quotes of the various buzz phrases you hear on fox news. No logical reasons or refutations. Some particular responses were typically: "Saddam is evil and killed his people" My polite reply:

a. Saddam is dead
b. His army is gone
c. Genocide goes on all the time by evil leaders in africa and southeast asia, so are you saying we should invade all those countries? We'd go bankrupt in a year.

More insults and braindead responses. I was called a pussy democrat, but responded by saying I've always been a republican and always will be. I pointed out how republican Ron Paul has these beliefs. I asked why I shouldn't voted for him, prefacing by saying my vote is no means set in stone.

More of the same nonsensical replies parroted over and over again along with more insults. Then mod jumps in, and says he's merging my thread with one of the other "RongPaul Paullete nut job threads". I reply nicely by saying it's a war thread, and ask him why he would try to bury an open debate. He responds by banning me and deleting my thread.

Yeah from what I've seen the key is to not mention Ron Paul.

ClayTrainor
09-30-2007, 03:40 PM
man, it amazes me how clueless some people are.

I am scared for America as well...

speciallyblend
09-30-2007, 03:41 PM
Maybe we should take theses files put them into one file,and then send them to the haniity emails ,and ask why,just to aggravate them and there liberal neo-cons, fill the email,or better yet ignore the hannity site,its crap anyway

steph3n
09-30-2007, 03:41 PM
Amazing how similar these are the the fredhead satire posts they are spot on, so much I wonder who is who now!

terlinguatx
09-30-2007, 03:44 PM
...

Corydoras
09-30-2007, 03:54 PM
Thanks for posting a good clear reminder that we have universal suffrage.
:rolleyes:

Hook
09-30-2007, 03:57 PM
The one about wishing he would shut up about the constitution was obviously someone on our side being sarcastic.

born2drv
09-30-2007, 04:04 PM
There are lots of good people on that site, a lot of idiots as well... and unfortunately a few of those idiots are running the place so what are you going to do? I got banned from there as well but honestly I could care less. If that's how they wish to behave then so be it.

It may not happen this election or even next, but eventually they'll come to understand the republican party has been hijacked, and this "war on terror" was the wrong course for america. it will be like looking back to when kids were taught to duck and cover under their desks in case of a nuclear war... we will all look back on these days and realize how misguided we were, and how we wasted this country worrying about something insignificant all in a ploy to get cheap oil.

People will look back to the 1950's - 2010's and see it was just USA trying to exert it's military force on the rest of the world in the name of controlling commodities, and that we killed hundreds of millions of people because of our greed, and destroyed our economy and country in the process.

And those idiots on Hannity.com can all pat themselves on the back in 20 years when they finally figure it out.

terlinguatx
09-30-2007, 04:04 PM
...

RJB
09-30-2007, 04:11 PM
What's funny is you were the one who was banned and that idiot wasn't.

libertarianguy
09-30-2007, 04:14 PM
test

paulitics
09-30-2007, 04:14 PM
The one about wishing he would shut up about the constitution was obviously someone on our side being sarcastic.

I think so too.

Danny Molina
09-30-2007, 04:15 PM
These people make me sick. Physically and mentally.

V-rod
09-30-2007, 04:18 PM
Those are the kind of guys would of been easily recruited into Hitler's SS back in the 30's.

aksmith
09-30-2007, 04:23 PM
I love the picture of that squinting cheesebag Hannity. They can't even manage not to make him look smarmy and condescending on his own homepage. I can't watch his show or listen to him because he literally turns my stomach.

And notice one other thing. He has started dying his hair and eyebrows. What an egotistical maggot.

dircha
09-30-2007, 04:34 PM
Man, I love that place :)

Just made my first post:


The problem is not that we are in Iraq. The problem is that we have allowed the War in Iraq to replace the War on Terror in the public discourse.

Americans are not dissatisfied with the War in Iraq; they are dissatisfied with our progress in the broader War on Terror.

The American people witness Iran making audacious threat's against our security, against Israel, against our interests in the region, and they demand that there be a response. They have seen no response.

The American people witness an inept government in Pakistan that is giving safe-haven to Bin Laden out of our reach, and they demand that there be a response. They have seen no response.

The American people witness the bringing to justice of dangerous terrorists at Guantanamo Bay being delayed and fumbled by bureaucratic hurdles and fumbling officials, and they demand that there be a response. They have seen no response.

The democratic achievement and humanitarian welfare of the people of Iraq must come a distant second to our progress in the broader War on Terror.

We must immediately begin to work with Israel to engage Iran militarily. We must not be impeded in our pursuit of Bin Laden by a belligerent and inept Pakistani government; we must take whatever course is necessary to bring Bin Laden and the Al Qaeda leadership to justice. We must act without hesitation to bring the terrorists detained off our southern shore to justice.

The American people are holding us to account. If we fail to demonstrate by our actions our commitment and capability to advance and expand the War on Terror to deal with the imminent, global threat of Islamic jihad, we will lose the election, and we will imperil the very future of civilization as we know it.

We must not delay in this endeavor. We have a rendezvous with destiny.

werdd
09-30-2007, 04:43 PM
A countrys population must decide it want's to be free, did anyone force freedom on us or france or any other so called "free" country. No.

I beleive if we would of let iraq sit it would have had a civil war eventually. But we came to early. If a countrys people decide to take the motion toward freedom, we should back them, but coercing the thought is another thing entirely.

steph3n
09-30-2007, 04:45 PM
How can we force "freedom" on Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan or anywhere when we aren't free ourselves!

Freedom is not Free!
Freer is not free
fear is free

MsDoodahs
09-30-2007, 04:55 PM
Why are you guys going to Hannity forums again?

Surely not to try to convert them ???

peruvianRP
09-30-2007, 04:56 PM
I would not sweat too much about the guys at the forums. They are just brain dead. I post there sometimes too.

dircha
09-30-2007, 04:57 PM
Yes, neo-cons would have us "spread freedom by the sword." Does that ring a bell?

...it's all too real how in danger we are of becoming like those we say are our enemies.

speciallyblend
09-30-2007, 05:10 PM
I applied a month ago never got a reply to join etc or accepted,i guess my email gave me away snowshoehippie:)

klamath
09-30-2007, 05:14 PM
It will be such a relief when those people migrate back to the democratic party because they want to be in the party in power. Can't impose your power on anyone if you are in the minority party Eh.

BillyDkid
09-30-2007, 06:05 PM
I love (not) the guy/gal who says: "There are some more nations we need to force to accept freedom.".

That just makes no sense at all. Forcing people to accept freedom? Just exactly what does that mean?Well, yeah, isn't the the libertarian position - forcing everybody to be free? Not letting decide for themselves whether or not they can tell other people what to do? I'm being sarcastic, in case it's not clear. But you are right, the idiocy of that comment is nauseating. Christ almighty, maybe people should making sure their own country is actually free before deciding we need to force other people to accept freedom. My feeling about the war in Iraq is this - everybody who thinks it's such a good idea should be required to choose one family member to sacrifice for this noble cause.

libertygrl
09-30-2007, 06:11 PM
Or this one: "I wish he's shut up about the constitution."


Geez.. sounds like the same ignorant freaks I encountered at a conservative news forum. I was politely posting information about Ron Paul and any recent news items of his successes, and was charged with being part of some sort of "liberal conspiracy." (I'm conservative) They truly believe that Ron Paul's success is a fabrication, created by a bunch of liberals spamming polls on the internet.

The reason? The Liberals want Ron Paul to get the GOP nomination because they believe that he's the only GOP candidate that can't defeat Hillary! How dumb can these people be?? He's the only one who CAN defeat Hillary!

I was going back and forth with them for awhile but it was useless. I was constantly under verbal attack and couldn't have a civil discussion with them. They've been assimilated by FOX and are now part of the collective. Boy, are they in for a rude awakening.

Hook
09-30-2007, 06:33 PM
I would not sweat too much about the guys at the forums. They are just brain dead. I post there sometimes too.

Are you trying to say that you are brain-dead too? :D

unklejman
09-30-2007, 11:13 PM
Geez.. sounds like the same ignorant freaks I encountered at a conservative news forum. I was politely posting information about Ron Paul and any recent news items of his successes, and was charged with being part of some sort of "liberal conspiracy." (I'm conservative) They truly believe that Ron Paul's success is a fabrication, created by a bunch of liberals spamming polls on the internet.


Well they are just following their emperor. Remember what G.W. said: “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a <expletive> piece of paper!”

Grandson of Liberty
10-01-2007, 12:27 AM
The sad thing is they're going to blame us for killing the GOP, when truthfully I think Dr. Paul is the only one who can save it.

Several weeks back I was looking for a way to email Sean Hannity and send him a polite letter from a fellow conservative supporting Ron Paul, and found his forums instead. I had the "bright" idea to start posting there to see if I might be able to make some headway with other conservatives toward Ron Paul. Wow, it didn't take long to see what a bunch of ignorant, name-calling doodoo heads (yes, I realize I just called them doodoo heads) they are. But I like to think I have a thick skin so decided to stick it out. That didn't last long once I questioned Hannity's statement regarding the 3% spamming a 33% victory for Ron Paul in the debate. I asked if people thought he was mistaken or trying to intentionally mislead the public, and if it turned out to be the latter if his viewers would call him on it. Funny how I got banned within minutes. Oh well. I certainly have better things to do with my time anyhow. Really just kinda made me sad to see what a state the "Republican" party is in.

Anti Federalist
10-01-2007, 12:38 AM
Hell, I've been "banned" from Hannity's Insanity about five times now I think.

I don't know, I can't log back in, so maybe it's five.

There are enough good folks, making the right points for RP and the Constitution, to make the case for any "lurkers" hanging about.

And LOL at Lee Kington, I've been round the track with him a couple of times.

Mostly though, you'd be shoveling shit against the tide trying to make points with most of those hidebound cheese heads.

Put your time to better use.:p

Starks
10-01-2007, 12:47 AM
Here's some more disturbing responses...

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=350071

Chernitsky
10-01-2007, 12:51 AM
Well they are just following their emperor. Remember what G.W. said: “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a <expletive> piece of paper!”

he never said this

unklejman
10-01-2007, 10:15 AM
he never said this

who did then?

DocGrimes
10-01-2007, 10:27 AM
Or this one: "I wish he's shut up about the constitution."

Yep, this fellers post was definitely full of sarcasm and not meant seriously. I found it very funny and amusing myself.

RP4ME
10-01-2007, 10:31 AM
I think it would be interesting if members of fredthompsonforum.com were to coordinate an effort to head over to the hannity forums and celebrate the gospel of neo-conservativism with its denizens.

Hmm...

I think that is Brilliant! Calling all Fred Thompson supporter: NAscar Jesus, Hannity......

American
10-01-2007, 10:39 AM
What are you talking about, that isnt the majority of republican voters on that hideous site. They are on the 30% range that still support this war.

Why anyone still goes there is beyond me. Why anyone from here would go there is beyond me, your just bringing the hit count up for shit head, and its coming from here.

YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME!!!!

unklejman
10-01-2007, 10:56 AM
Here is a pleasant one:

The job of the military is to kill anyone who wants to kill Americans.

And Iraq is absolutely chock full of those. PERFECT place for the military to do the killing.

Elwar
10-01-2007, 10:59 AM
These comments are so similar to an argument I had with a Hillary supporter when I told him that Ron Paul planned to bring the troops home right away and Hillary said that she will not bring them home in her first 4 years.

TooConservative
10-01-2007, 11:13 AM
The only thing they need to finally perfect Hannity.com is some tasteful swastikas.

atilla
10-01-2007, 11:33 AM
I've been banned and my thread is deleted. Here is the summary:

In very polite terms I asked : "why are we still in Iraq"

a. We didnt find any WMDs
b. They had nothing to do with 9/11
c. They were our ally against iran, and we gave them massive support

The responses consisted of personal attack, insults, and verbatim quotes of the various buzz phrases you hear on fox news. No logical reasons or refutations. Some particular responses were typically: "Saddam is evil and killed his people" My polite reply:

a. Saddam is dead
b. His army is gone
c. Genocide goes on all the time by evil leaders in africa and southeast asia, so are you saying we should invade all those countries? We'd go bankrupt in a year.

More insults and braindead responses. I was called a pussy democrat, but responded by saying I've always been a republican and always will be. I pointed out how republican Ron Paul has these beliefs. I asked why I shouldn't voted for him, prefacing by saying my vote is no means set in stone.

More of the same nonsensical replies parroted over and over again along with more insults. Then mod jumps in, and says he's merging my thread with one of the other "RongPaul Paullete nut job threads". I reply nicely by saying it's a war thread, and ask him why he would try to bury an open debate. He responds by banning me and deleting my thread.

http://server.blinkyou.com/popularimages/image_bank/special%20olympics%20win%20retarded.jpg

RJB
10-01-2007, 11:38 AM
Atilla, that's so true.