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AdamT
09-28-2009, 07:42 AM
Our friend Larry Lepard, who paid for full page grassroots campaign ads in USA Today and the NYTs, has volunteered to fund the costs involved to get For Liberty in all the libraries on the nation. Also to the heads of political science departments of all the universities. Wow!!

It's up to us to figure out the logistics.

Austin
09-28-2009, 07:49 AM
Fantastic news, thanks Larry!

amy31416
09-28-2009, 07:54 AM
Our friend Larry Lepard, who paid for full page grassroots campaign ads in USA Today and the NYTs, has volunteered to fund the costs involved to get For Liberty in all the libraries on the nation. Also to the heads of political science departments of all the universities. Wow!!

It's up to us to figure out the logistics.

Amazing.

I'll volunteer to get copies to all the libraries in NW PA. I can provide a list when this is formalized.

ronpaulhawaii
09-28-2009, 07:55 AM
Amazing... Amazing...

:D

GO GRASSROOTS!!!

AdamT
09-28-2009, 07:57 AM
I'm wondering if there's distributor in place who would disperse to each library for us. That already has a supply chain in place with lists/addresses/contacts. Submissions may require a form to be filled out, which would complicate things. Anyone know how this works?

torchbearer
09-28-2009, 08:01 AM
I guess first things first- I'll need to get a list of all the libraries and universities in louisiana. I'm going to be very busy over the next 2 weeks, but i'll try to do some online research at night.

torchbearer
09-28-2009, 08:02 AM
I'm wondering if there's distributor in place who would disperse to each library for us. That already has a supply chain in place with lists/addresses/contacts. Submissions may require a form to be filled out, which would complicate things. Anyone know how this works?

I'll ask a local librarian if there is such a thing.

Dreamofunity
09-28-2009, 08:03 AM
I wasn't around much (on forums) for when Larry funded the newspaper ads, I've seen them but I had no idea how expensive they were or the fact they were paid for by one man. I must say after watching For Liberty and seeing this news, Larry is THE man.

amy31416
09-28-2009, 08:04 AM
I'll ask a local librarian if there is such a thing.

Excellent idea.

Quick question: would this be for every physical library (ours has about 8 branches) or just for each library system?

MRoCkEd
09-28-2009, 08:17 AM
This is awesome! Thanks so much LL.

torchbearer
09-28-2009, 08:18 AM
This is the most important activist thread.
A gift has been offered by a very charitable man- let's do our part to make this happen.

Bradley in DC
09-28-2009, 08:28 AM
Just sent you an email on some leads.

angelatc
09-28-2009, 08:29 AM
Wow. That is so unbelievably generous I am totally at a loss for words.

angelatc
09-28-2009, 08:39 AM
I called the Library of Congress. He said that the complete list is found in the "American Library Directory." I would assume that's found in most libraries.

He also suggested we contact the American Library Association (http://www.ala.org/) before we start shipping. :)

I'll call them next. Somebody stop me if I'm on the wrong track or duplicating efforts.

torchbearer
09-28-2009, 08:42 AM
I called the Library of Congress. He said that the complete list is found in the "American Library Directory." I would assume that's found in most libraries.

He also suggested we contact the American Library Association (http://www.ala.org/) before we start shipping. :)

I'll call them next. Somebody stop me if I'm on the wrong track or duplicating efforts.

don't stop!!!!!!! :D

AdamT
09-28-2009, 08:49 AM
I called the Library of Congress. He said that the complete list is found in the "American Library Directory." I would assume that's found in most libraries.

He also suggested we contact the American Library Association (http://www.ala.org/) before we start shipping. :)

I'll call them next. Somebody stop me if I'm on the wrong track or duplicating efforts.

You're on the right track. The ALA might accommodate the disbursement fo us.

angelatc
09-28-2009, 08:50 AM
Called the ALA at their 800 number, spoke to somebody who said I would need to speak with the librarian, who isn't at her desk right now. They took my number and somebody is supposed to call me back.

I found out that they sell mailing lists of their member libraries, member being the key word. I don't think quick on my feet - I'll write a list of questions. The first question will be about that member list.

What other questions should I ask?

I'm not sure how libraries operate. If we just send them a random DVD, will they put it on their shelves or just toss it aside? My mission here is to try to prevent the latter.

AdamT
09-28-2009, 08:54 AM
I assume the individual librarians have to screen them before they add it to their shelves.

For submission, does each individual library have different rules or are they universal? And is there any kind of form that has to be filled out with each submission (possibly thousands of forms :()?

torchbearer
09-28-2009, 08:56 AM
I assume the individual librarians have to screen them before they add it to their shelves.

For submission, does each individual library have different rules or are they universal? And is there any kind of form that has to be filled out with each submission (possibly thousands of forms :()?

if there are thousands of forms, we will help you fill them out.

angelatc
09-28-2009, 09:08 AM
There is a ton in information in the ALA FAQ's. (http://www.ala.org/ala/aboutala/offices/library/libraryfactsheet/alalibraryfact.cfm)

I totally have to get some housework done, or my older son will be wearing dirty jeans to school tomorrow. (I suppose I could just toss them in with some Bounce? No wait!!!)

Maybe one of ya'll can peruse it while I wait for my phone to ring.

torchbearer
09-28-2009, 09:11 AM
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AdamT
09-28-2009, 09:14 AM
One thing to point out to the orgs is RP was opposed to the Patriot Act, which the libraries absolutely hate.

LittleLightShining
09-28-2009, 09:20 AM
I just went to the VT libraries webpage. Every state must have something like this. PDF files for library directories are available free for download. This is the page you find them in VT: http://libraries.vermont.gov/libraries/dir

No sense paying for free information.

MRoCkEd
09-28-2009, 09:21 AM
This seems to be a good one too. You can sort by state and then it breaks it down into public libraries, academic ones, etc.
http://www.librarysites.info/

angelatc
09-28-2009, 09:36 AM
I just went to the VT libraries webpage. Every state must have something like this. PDF files for library directories are available free for download. This is the page you find them in VT: http://libraries.vermont.gov/libraries/dir

No sense paying for free information.

I'd be more interested in paying for pre-printed mailing labels than I am a mailing list, that's for sure. (Of course, I still carry emotional scars from trying to make labels work properly before the templates were perfected.)

I wonder how inclusive their membership is though? $200 for 75% of America's libraries vs $200 for 10% of America's libraries is substantial.

ETA: Does it include university libraries?

I wonder - should we should all be calling our city/county/state library systems to see what a random sampling of the procurement procedures look like?

LLS, you're a natural born organizer. What do you think?

LittleLightShining
09-28-2009, 09:40 AM
I'd be more interested in paying for pre-printed mailing labels than I am a mailing list, that's for sure. (Of course, I still carry emotional scars from trying to make labels work properly before the templates were perfected.)

I wonder how inclusive their membership is though? $200 for 75% of America's libraries vs $200 for 10% of America's libraries is substantial.

ETA: Does it include university libraries?

I wonder - should we should all be calling our city/county/state library systems to see what a random sampling of the procurement procedures look like?

LLS, you're a natural born organizer. What do you think?

Awww... thanks :)

I think we should start with calling the state library system offices and find out what it takes to get a video in. I imagine all of the public libraries have the same type of protocol. Then there are the school and university libraries which we can work on next.

teacherone
09-28-2009, 10:29 AM
got a cousin doing IT in the library of congress. let me know if he can do anything!

will be in california for three weeks in december. would love to distribute books to the liberals in the bay area!!!

teach

Bradley in DC
09-28-2009, 10:32 AM
I called the Library of Congress. He said that the complete list is found in the "American Library Directory." I would assume that's found in most libraries.

He also suggested we contact the American Library Association (http://www.ala.org/) before we start shipping. :)

I'll call them next. Somebody stop me if I'm on the wrong track or duplicating efforts.

I suggested them and another library association.

angelatc
09-28-2009, 10:41 AM
Looks like LLS is on the right track. Here's what the ALA sent me:


<http://www.ala.org/ala/aboutala/hqops/publishing/booklist_publications/
booklist/insidebooklist/insidebooklist.cfm> web page for submissions
information.

Library Journal reviews books with the potential to interest a broad
spectrum of libraries as well as graphic novels, magazines, zines,
audio, video, and online databases. See the Library Journal Titles for
Review <http://www.libraryjournal.com/info/CA6415258.html> for
additional details and mailing addresses.

School Library Journal reviews new children's and young adult general
trade books and original paperbacks from established publishers. In
order to be considered for review in SLJ's pages, books must be of
national interest and be readily available from national distributors at
an institutional discount. Also reviewed are videos, audio recordings
(cassettes and CDs), reference CD-ROMs and online resources. See the
School Library Journal Submitting Review Materials
<http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/info/CA444296.html> for additional
details and mailing addresses.

Video Librarian (Video Librarian, 8705 Honeycomb Ct. NW, Seabeck, WA
98380; e-mail vidlib@videolibrarian.com) reviews for public, school,
university, and special libraries theatrical and non-theatrical
videos/DVDs new to the marketplace. See How to Submit Titles for Review
in Video Librarian or Video Librarian Online
<http://www.videolibrarian.com/about/submission.html> for further
assistance.


and also

ALA Library Fact Sheet 3
Lists of Libraries
http://www.ala.org/library/fact3.html
Lists companies which sell mailing lists and mailing labels of
libraries, includes link to ALA Mail List Rental
<http://www.ala.org/ala/aboutala/contactus/marketing/mail_list_rental/in
dex.cfm>


You might also want to contact video distributors directly to see if
they would be interested in providing your video to libraries. For a
list of them, please see another document compiled by this office:

Fact Sheet 9
Library Products, Services and Consultants
http://www.ala.org/library/fact9.html
Lists online and print resources which compile names of library vendors


Feel free to contact me with any other questions or concerns. Thank you
for calling the American Library Association.


(name and email omitted intentionally)

llepard
09-28-2009, 10:48 AM
Hi Folks:

I can fund this within reason. I have been told each DVD costs about $1.00 to print and package. Mailing will add to that.

I just checked the ALA site.

Turns out there are 123,000 libraries in the US is you count every branch, public and private school library. (I cannot do that)

http://www.ala.org/ala/aboutala/offices/library/libraryfactsheet/alalibraryfactsheet1.cfm

I am thinking we do all public libraries, just central (not all branches). That is about 9,214.

Then I am thinking we do all College libraries above four year. That is another 2,283.

Then I am thinking we do the Poli Sci departments of the top 1,000 universities.

That would bring the total replication cost to $15K or so, and if we can get bulk mailing rates at bit more to mail it.

I am good for that amount.

I have no time to do the logistics, mailling etc.

I need to focus on gold and precious metals stocks so that I can continue to fund these projects. heh, heh

L


Query: Is this the best way to spend this money. I am all for it. I just know that we have a lot of smart people out there. Maybe someone has a better idea. In some cases the DVD will go to the library and collect dust. Is there another list we should mail to? How do we get max viewings and exposure. I am ALL EARS.

L

rajibo
09-28-2009, 11:04 AM
I believe this is an important route to take:

http://www.netflix.com/SubmitFilm/Step1?role=1

angelatc
09-28-2009, 11:08 AM
I believe this is an important route to take:

http://www.netflix.com/SubmitFilm/Step1?role=1

That's a good find. Can you believe they still accept VHS submissions ?

AdamT
09-28-2009, 11:23 AM
I believe this is an important route to take:

http://www.netflix.com/SubmitFilm/Step1?role=1

Thanks for that, I've been meaning to look into it.

dr. hfn
09-28-2009, 01:36 PM
OMG! This is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Should we get this into the hands of all the maor media too?

jdmyprez_deo_vindice
09-28-2009, 01:39 PM
I had not seen this thread and just posted for one asking for donations of extra copies to get into my local libraries and community colleges.... I am glad to see that some of us are on the same wavelength here... Yes please, sign me up for at least 50 copies to go to every library in my congressional district.

LittleLightShining
09-28-2009, 01:57 PM
Apparently I have to speak with the State Librarian. I should hear back from her tomorrow.

dr. hfn
09-28-2009, 02:02 PM
we should do this by districts.

Mahkato
09-28-2009, 02:10 PM
Oooo Netflix is interesting. What are the commission rates? $0.xx per rental or something like that?

Captain Bryan
09-28-2009, 02:40 PM
Yeah, the Netflix thing could be huge.
Getting it into the libraries will be great as well!

angelatc
09-28-2009, 02:43 PM
Apparently I have to speak with the State Librarian. I should hear back from her tomorrow.

Thats about where I'm at with Michigan too. My productivity came to a screeching halt once I hit the government.

Ian A.
09-28-2009, 02:45 PM
Hi Folks:
I have been told each DVD costs about $1.00 to print and package. Mailing will add to that.

Err, we're talking about the DVD along with the case, right? The case cover is a real attention-getter.

http://www.forlibertymovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mock2flag.jpg

Bradley in DC
09-28-2009, 02:57 PM
I believe this is an important route to take:

http://www.netflix.com/SubmitFilm/Step1?role=1

I think people need to start asking Netflix if they're carrying the film yet...

AdamT
09-28-2009, 03:06 PM
Err, we're talking about the DVD along with the case, right? The case cover is a real attention-getter.

http://www.forlibertymovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mock2flag.jpg

Yes. The full deal.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
09-28-2009, 05:12 PM
bump

torchbearer
09-28-2009, 07:41 PM
updates?

lx43
09-28-2009, 09:31 PM
Keep in mind that once you get this video in to local libary system, the DVD must be checked out or they will take it out of circulation.

dr. hfn
09-28-2009, 10:36 PM
Keep in mind that once you get this video in to local libary system, the DVD must be checked out or they will take it out of circulation.

I think getting it to media is more important.

devil21
09-28-2009, 10:39 PM
Just a thought but for anyone that has the DVD, you can just make a copy of the DVD (I think Kinkos and similar places have DVD replicators) for yourself and then turn your purchased version over to a local library of your choice. They'll gladly take it and add it to their shelves. It's not as large scale as Larry's generous offer but every bit helps.

(assuming AdamT doesn't mind DVD copying)

dr. hfn
09-28-2009, 11:25 PM
can we do this project with end the fed and the revolution: a manifesto too?

tonesforjonesbones
09-28-2009, 11:34 PM
I wonder how we can get the word out that it is IN the libraries? I think I can get one in my local library...my mother works there. Tones

DirtMcGirt
09-28-2009, 11:40 PM
Im not sure if this helps or has been discussed, The idea would be to give out a copy in a gift bag at one of these conferences or have a viewing near the event.
The first is a link to the northeastern political science conference.
http://www.northeasternpsa.com/

The second one is a stretch but maybe you can find an agenda or location that makes sense.
http://www.conferencealerts.com/politics.htm

torchbearer
09-28-2009, 11:52 PM
Cpac.

Epic
09-28-2009, 11:56 PM
Any chance of some kind of mainstream distribution deal... to get it in stores like Walmart?

An unofficial showing at CPAC would be good... could be advertised by volunteers.

AdamT
09-29-2009, 12:02 AM
We may have a donor to supply copies to hand out at CPAC.

ForLiberty-RonPaul
09-29-2009, 12:48 AM
what about getting it entered into independent film award thingies. there is a lot of press there

BuddyRey
09-29-2009, 04:55 AM
Amazing! Amazing...

kaleidoscope eyes
09-29-2009, 05:48 AM
This is just fantastic!

llepard is the man. :)

ForLiberty-RonPaul
09-29-2009, 12:45 PM
booty bump

dr. hfn
09-29-2009, 12:51 PM
Any chance of some kind of mainstream distribution deal... to get it in stores like Walmart?

An unofficial showing at CPAC would be good... could be advertised by volunteers.

yes! We definitely need to get this into mainstream stores and then promote the crap out of it.

jdmyprez_deo_vindice
09-29-2009, 01:22 PM
I wonder how we can get the word out that it is IN the libraries? I think I can get one in my local library...my mother works there. Tones

Many newspapers will run photos and a brief description when individuals or groups donate items to libraries. This is especially true with smaller towns and rural communities.

MRoCkEd
09-29-2009, 01:37 PM
We may have a donor to supply copies to hand out at CPAC.
This is a great place to target.

libertarian4321
10-01-2009, 06:37 AM
Wow, that's a lot of DVD's if we were to hit every small town library in the country. Would that include school libraries too?

That would probably be tens of thousands of DVDs?

ronpaulhawaii
10-02-2009, 12:38 AM
Wow, that's a lot of DVD's if we were to hit every small town library in the country. Would that include school libraries too?

That would probably be tens of thousands of DVDs?

Reading page two of this thread would have answered your questions

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2339828&postcount=30
;)

IPSecure
10-02-2009, 01:11 AM
Any chance of some kind of mainstream distribution deal... to get it in stores like Walmart?

Please See: Spread The Message! Time To Make New Business Associates! (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2302404&postcount=67)
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2302404&postcount=67)

Is it possible to have teachers put this on required viewing material?
- The kids at school are shown movies all the time, most recent: The Outsiders.
- Often we have to go to the bookstore and find something the teachers require.

Film Festival Submission (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=0tc&q=Film+Festival+submission&btnG=Search)
- https://www.withoutabox.com/

- 2010 SUNDANCE FILM FESTIVAL SUBMISSIONS (http://www.sundance.org/submissions/)
(If your film does not arrive by the deadline for which you have registered, you will be prompted to make an additional payment in order to bring your account up to date.)

Knightskye
10-02-2009, 03:52 AM
Crap. Larry is an amazing guy.

I want to chip in. Can't let Larry take all the credit. :)

Suzu
10-04-2009, 09:38 AM
This seems to be a good one too. You can sort by state and then it breaks it down into public libraries, academic ones, etc.
http://www.librarysites.info/

I just looked at the page for my state, and half the county library systems are missing.

Baptist
10-10-2009, 07:16 AM
So are we going to do this? I read through the thread... is somebody working on this? Or do we still need to work on the logistics of it?

dr. hfn
10-10-2009, 03:44 PM
bump

CaseyJones
10-11-2009, 01:33 PM
bump

tremendoustie
10-11-2009, 01:45 PM
This needs to get done! What's the current status -- who needs to be called? I am willing to help call people and organize.

Socratic Method
10-11-2009, 02:11 PM
Hi Folks:
I am thinking we do all public libraries, just central (not all branches). That is about 9,214.

Then I am thinking we do all College libraries above four year. That is another 2,283.

Then I am thinking we do the Poli Sci departments of the top 1,000 universities.

Query: Is this the best way to spend this money. I am all for it. I just know that we have a lot of smart people out there. Maybe someone has a better idea. In some cases the DVD will go to the library and collect dust. Is there another list we should mail to? How do we get max viewings and exposure. I am ALL EARS.
L

Great break down!

Gen. question: how many people actually go to libraries to watch movies? I'm not sure.

If anything, definitely not the branches, so good call. College campuses, the youth. Definitely. Poli Sci, possibly - The old codgers may think the revolution march, is the rise of the proletariat. :p

Generally, people like CATO try to target the politicians - which fails epically because it goes against their self interest.

With this recent Vince Vaughan thing though, why not target some celebrities?

The high flying, publicly influential, media connected, media drawing folks?

Send it to Brad Pitt, send it to his wife, whatever her name is. Contact Vince, try get some names?

Hell.. send it to Oprah... lol.

They have money... they have influence... they sometimes want to be part of a movement... none of these folks have ever been able to see what we've done together as a movement, because the MSM would never cover it.

It doesn't touch on policy issues apparently... maybe that is a good thing ? Hehe.

Cheers,
SM.

dr. hfn
10-11-2009, 03:13 PM
I've never gotten a movie from a library and I'm 20 years old. I really like Socratic Method's idea about celebrities.

IPSecure
10-11-2009, 03:24 PM
Gen. question: how many people actually go to libraries to watch movies? I'm not sure.


The local library has a large selection of DVD movies, also a lot on VHS. These are checked out just like books, and if the selection is not available locally, they will check the other libraries and have it transferred.

Deborah K
10-11-2009, 03:26 PM
I would be happy to donate DVDs to my local library. And I can get a list of the libraries in my county.

torchbearer
10-11-2009, 03:27 PM
i can do the libraries in Rapides parish. also Louisiana College and LSUA.

Deborah K
10-11-2009, 03:27 PM
Ya know.....we should send one to every congressman, senator, and Supreme Court justice..

Arklatex
10-11-2009, 03:29 PM
Right on Deborah K

I found a hole in the wall library the other day next to a soccer field, was well kept though I'd like to donate a copy to them =)

Baptist
10-11-2009, 03:41 PM
Well, it does not look like there is a plan of action. So here is an idea: what if people take the responsibility of getting the address to all the main branches of their library and political science departments in their congressional districts? We could send the addresses to AdamT or something.

torchbearer
10-11-2009, 03:43 PM
Well, it does not look like there is a plan of action. So here is an idea: what if people take the responsibility of getting the address to all the main branches of their library and political science departments in their congressional districts? We could send the addresses to AdamT or something.

if its only the people reading this thread turning in addresses, there won't be very many.
the members list of the ALA would give us more libraries in less time.

ronpaulhawaii
10-12-2009, 11:34 AM
bump

tremendoustie
10-12-2009, 01:31 PM
if its only the people reading this thread turning in addresses, there won't be very many.
the members list of the ALA would give us more libraries in less time.

How do we get that list?

Edit: We can pay for it: http://www.ala.org/ala/aboutala/contactus/marketing/mail_list_rental/index.cfm

angelatc
10-12-2009, 01:41 PM
How do we get that list?

Edit: We can pay for it: http://www.ala.org/ala/aboutala/contactus/marketing/mail_list_rental/index.cfm

I totally agree that buying a mailing list from them might not be bad.

The only problem is that not all libraries are members. I've been emailing libraries all afternoon, and while I'm only up to the letter "C" in Michigan I can already tell you that the submission procedures are very different for each library. Most of the rural libraries seem eager, but the larger cities have a "process."

I tried to work with the State, but nobody there seems interested in calling me back. Maybe I should tell them I'm passing out stimulus money.

A lot of these donations might be tax deductible for Larry if we structure it properly, too.

angelatc
10-12-2009, 01:43 PM
Well, it does not look like there is a plan of action. So here is an idea: what if people take the responsibility of getting the address to all the main branches of their library and political science departments in their congressional districts? We could send the addresses to AdamT or something.

The issue with that is that they don't all accept unsolicited donations for circulation. Some libraries don't even have DVD collections.

My .02 is that we need to try to at least provide some value for Larry's money.

angelatc
10-12-2009, 04:15 PM
Hmmm - a recurring theme among the relatively few replies I've received indicates there's really no guarantee they'll put it on the shelf.

I think the more rural libraries would be more likely to, but getting it into the bigger libraries is going to be harder. They want either a copy with a cover letter, or at least some review material they can use to gauge community interest before they will agree to put it on their shelves.

Maybe I was wrong (Hey! It happens!) in my above post. Maybe we *should* just prepare some sort of mass mailing package, and put in a kick butt cover letter, pointing to the awesome Amazon reviews, and mentioning that it's under consideration for Sundance.

Michigan has a really good list I found by going through their state site. I'd rather use that than the ALA pre-fab thing. Other states might not be so lucky though.

Who thinks they can write a letter than will appeal to the librarian enough to get them to watch the movie? I'm sort of afraid that the "Ron Paul" name might put them off. The movie isn't really even about him.

angelatc
10-13-2009, 02:27 PM
ALright! Thanks for all the comments and help in drafting a cover letter.

I've sent out about 200 emails, and received back about 6 replies. 1 library is discontinusing their DVD collection. 2 said they would love a copy, and 3 said they need to review it.

If we figure on a cost of $3.50 per DVD, we have about 4285 copies we can dole out.

It will take me a a while but I can build a database of all the public libraries if nobody wants to help. Most of them are accessible from the State governments' web pages. The next step would be whittling down the list, because I am guessing there will be too many, especially if we're targeting the academic libraries next.

Some of the rural libraries in MI belong to a coop,(that's probably true in other states) and therefore it might behoove our limited resources to limit it to one per co-op. HOwever, on the other hand, the little libraries seem the most eager to display it.

So - what do you think?

ANother thought - there are fewer academic poli-sci libraries. Should we target them first? It's a smaller project.

torchbearer
10-13-2009, 02:32 PM
ALright! Thanks for all the comments and help in drafting a cover letter.

I've sent out about 200 emails, and received back about 6 replies. 1 library is discontinusing their DVD collection. 2 said they would love a copy, and 3 said they need to review it.

If we figure on a cost of $3.50 per DVD, we have about 4285 copies we can dole out.

It will take me a a while but I can build a database of all the public libraries if nobody wants to help. Most of them are accessible from the State governments' web pages. The next step would be whittling down the list, because I am guessing there will be too many, especially if we're targeting the academic libraries next.

Some of the rural libraries in MI belong to a coop,(that's probably true in other states) and therefore it might behoove our limited resources to limit it to one per co-op. HOwever, on the other hand, the little libraries seem the most eager to display it.

So - what do you think?

ANother thought - there are fewer academic poli-sci libraries. Should we target them first? It's a smaller project.

lots of questions... an idea-
do you think Dr. Walter Block of Loyola university in New Orleans would have any good advice when it comes to sending these DVDs to colleges?

angelatc
10-13-2009, 02:32 PM
lots of questions... an idea-
do you think Dr. Walter Block of Loyola university in New Orleans would have any good advice when it comes to sending these DVDs to colleges?

We won't know unless we ask him! :)

torchbearer
10-13-2009, 02:35 PM
We won't know unless we ask him! :)

let me see if i can find his email address,
what questions should I ask?
Just for general advice in getting the DVDs into university libraries?
and other questions?

torchbearer
10-13-2009, 02:36 PM
here is the contact info: http://www.walterblock.com/contact/

He was always very helpful to the libertarian party of louisiana.

angelatc
10-13-2009, 02:38 PM
let me see if i can find his email address,
what questions should I ask?
Just for general advice in getting the DVDs into university libraries?
and other questions?

Yes. IIRC, there were some requirements listed earlier in the thread - colleges of 4+ years, with poli-sci classes.....

torchbearer
10-13-2009, 02:41 PM
Yes. IIRC, there were some requirements listed earlier in the thread - colleges of 4+ years, with poli-sci classes.....

ok, so i guess i'm asking him for advice on how to approach universities about putting the DVDs in their poli-sci collections?

tremendoustie
10-14-2009, 02:44 PM
I totally agree that buying a mailing list from them might not be bad.

The only problem is that not all libraries are members. I've been emailing libraries all afternoon, and while I'm only up to the letter "C" in Michigan I can already tell you that the submission procedures are very different for each library. Most of the rural libraries seem eager, but the larger cities have a "process."

I tried to work with the State, but nobody there seems interested in calling me back. Maybe I should tell them I'm passing out stimulus money.

A lot of these donations might be tax deductible for Larry if we structure it properly, too.

Thanks for doing all this legwork! There has got to be a way to get the same item to many libraries at once. I mean, I'm sure book publishers don't call every library in the country separately.

ronpaulhawaii
10-15-2009, 12:54 AM
:) - you guys rock. Sorry I've been a bit pre-occupied to help...

Angela, I don't know what you mean by "Button Battery" - can you PM, or email, me a pic and explanation?

angelatc
10-15-2009, 05:20 AM
:) - you guys rock. Sorry I've been a bit pre-occupied to help...

Angela, I don't know what you mean by "Button Battery" - can you PM, or email, me a pic and explanation?

You're in the middle of something else. You don't need to be working on this - your time is better spent getting Adam elected.

Button battery - one of those silver things inside a computer that backs up the BIOS. My Dell has (had) one where the leads were physically attached to the battery. I'm not even sure how. There wasn't any glue residue after I pried them off, but...http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pRS1C-2160012w345.jpg
I managed to get the leads off, but I'll be darned if I can find a conductive adhesive that actually adheres to put them back on. You can't just solder it - the battery won't take the heat.

It's the stupidest design I've ever seen.

ronpaulhawaii
10-15-2009, 09:40 AM
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3358321&postcount=8

One solution... from googling terms "CMOS battery glue" Probably worth a try.

Cowlesy
10-20-2009, 04:21 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

angelatc
10-20-2009, 04:25 PM
Thank you, boys! I'll head out to the store for glue and try it tomorrow.

I'm still working on the library lists. Loving the states that make available as a .xls download, hating the states that offer .pdf forms.

dr. hfn
10-20-2009, 05:06 PM
bump! I love the grassroots!