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bobbyw24
09-28-2009, 04:59 AM
Huckabee in St. Louis: Get America Out of the U.N.

By David Weigel 9/27/09 11:48 AM

ST. LOUIS — Former Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-Ark.), speaking to a very friendly dinner crowd at the “How To Take Back America” conference, said that he’d “nearly had an Elvis moment” watching this week’s United Nations general assembly sessions and spoke about pulling out of the world organization altogether.

“It’s time to get a jackhammer and to simply chip off that part of New York City,” said Huckabee, “and let it float into the East River, never to be seen again!” That remark got him a standing ovation, and Huckabee went on to suggest de-funding the U.N. entirely.

http://washingtonindependent.com/61046/huckabee-in-st-louis-get-america-out-of-the-u-n

emazur
09-28-2009, 05:20 AM
I'd prefer someone else said it (like DeMint), but I'll take it.

Todd
09-28-2009, 05:55 AM
IMO....It's all rhetoric. Show me where he has historically held this opinion that the U.N. serves no good purpose, then I'll be convinced.

erowe1
09-28-2009, 06:45 AM
So, Mike, would you agree now that all those people who supported your bid for the presidency in 2008 made a mistake, since you were wrong on such an important issue, and that they should have supported the guy who was already running on a platform that included getting out of the UN?

Bucjason
09-28-2009, 06:50 AM
When you're right you're right. The Huckster is right on this one...

erowe1
09-28-2009, 06:53 AM
When you're right you're right. The Huckster is right on this one...

I believe that Huckabee would seriously pursue getting us out of the UN if he were president about as much as I believe he would seriously pursue getting rid of the income tax, which is not at all. All this proves is what we already knew, which is that he's gifted at parroting to a given audience the lines they like to hear.

RM918
09-28-2009, 06:53 AM
Agree here. Doesn't mean I'll vote for him or donate to his campaign, though.

Austin
09-28-2009, 07:05 AM
His bio on cfr.org says his stance on the United Nations is unknown.. so with that, at least we know he isn't flip flopping - he's more of an opportunist.

SWATH
09-28-2009, 07:34 AM
You know what this means? Ron Paul must have said it a couple of days ago.

stilltrying
09-28-2009, 07:48 AM
sounds to me like he would be perfect to be obamas opponent in 4 years and then headlines "Oh huckabee wants to eliminate UN" and then Obama gets reelected because the sheep think the UN is good

sounds like setting up for failure to me

muh_roads
09-28-2009, 07:53 AM
And Obama said he'd get out of the middle east in 3 months. Once they win, they never hold true to their word. I'm tired of the cock teasing.

yokna7
09-28-2009, 07:55 AM
So Palin doesn't like the Fed, Huckabee doesn't like the UN, ........the next thing you know McCain will denounce undeclared wars.:rolleyes:

yokna7
09-28-2009, 08:11 AM
And Obama said he'd get out of the middle east in 3 months. Once they win, they never hold true to their word. I'm tired of the cock teasing.

Do you have a link or vid on this? For record.

specsaregood
09-28-2009, 08:18 AM
You know what this means? Ron Paul must have said it a couple of days ago.

I don't know about last couple days but.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1146:
American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2009 (Introduced in House)


111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1146
To end membership of the United States in the United Nations.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 24, 2009
Mr. PAUL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


A BILL
To end membership of the United States in the United Nations.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2009'.

SEC. 2. REPEAL OF UNITED NATIONS PARTICIPATION ACT.

(a) Repeal- The United Nations Participation Act of 1945 (Public Law 79-264; 22 U.S.C. 287 et seq.) is repealed.

(b) Termination of Participation in United Nations- The President shall terminate all participation by the United States in the United Nations, and any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations.

(c) Closure of United States Mission to United Nations- The United States Mission to the United Nations is closed. Any remaining functions of such office shall not be carried out.

SEC. 3. REPEAL OF UNITED NATIONS HEADQUARTERS AGREEMENT ACT.

(a) Repeal- The United Nations Headquarters Agreement Act (Public Law 80-357) is repealed.

(b) Withdrawal- The United States withdraws from the agreement between the United States of America and the United Nations regarding the headquarters of the United Nations (signed at Lake Success, New York, on June 26, 1947, which was brought into effect by the United Nations Headquarters Agreement Act).

SEC. 4. UNITED STATES ASSESSED AND VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE UNITED NATIONS.

(a) Termination- No funds are authorized to be appropriated or otherwise made available for assessed or voluntary contributions of the United States to the United Nations or any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body thereof, except that funds may be appropriated to facilitate withdrawal of United States personnel and equipment. Upon termination of United States membership, no payments shall be made to the United Nations or any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body thereof, out of any funds appropriated prior to such termination or out of any other funds available for such purposes.

(b) Application- The provisions of this section shall apply to all agencies of the United Nations, including independent or voluntary agencies.

SEC. 5. UNITED NATIONS PEACEKEEPING OPERATIONS.

(a) Termination- No funds are authorized to be appropriated or otherwise made available for any United States contribution to any United Nations military operation.

(b) Terminations of United States Participation in United Nations Peacekeeping Operations- No funds may be obligated or expended to support the participation of any member of the Armed Forces of the United States as part of any United Nations military or peacekeeping operation or force. No member of the Armed Forces of the United States may serve under the command of the United Nations.

SEC. 6. WITHDRAWAL OF UNITED NATIONS PRESENCE IN FACILITIES OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND REPEAL OF DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY.

(a) Withdrawal From United States Government Property- The United Nations (including any affiliated agency of the United Nations) shall not occupy or use any property or facility of the United States Government.

(b) Diplomatic Immunity- No officer or employee of the United Nations or any representative, officer, or employee of any mission to the United Nations of any foreign government shall be entitled to enjoy the privileges and immunities of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations of April 18, 1961, nor may any such privileges and immunities be extended to any such individual. The privileges, exemptions and immunities provided for in the International Organizations Immunities Act of December 29, 1945 (59 Stat. 669; 22 U.S.C. 288, 288a-f), or in any agreement or treaty to which the United States is a party, including the agreement entitled `Agreement Between the United Nations and the United States of America Regarding the Headquarters of the United Nations', signed June 26, 1947 (22 U.S.C. 287), and the Convention on Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations, entered into force with respect to the United States on April 29, 1970 (21 UST 1418; TIAS 6900; UNTS 16), shall not apply to the United Nations or any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body thereof, to the officers and employees of the United Nations, or any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body thereof, or to the families, suites or servants of such officers or employees.

SEC. 7. REPEAL OF UNITED NATIONS EDUCATIONAL, SCIENTIFIC, AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATION ACT.

The joint resolution entitled `A joint resolution providing for membership and participation by the United States in the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization, and authorizing an appropriation therefor' approved July 30, 1946 (Public Law 79-565, 22 U.S.C. 287m-287t), is repealed.

SEC. 8. REPEAL OF UNITED NATIONS ENVIRONMENT PROGRAM PARTICIPATION ACT OF 1973.

The United Nations Environment Program Participation Act of 1973 (22 U.S.C. 287 note) is repealed.

SEC. 9. REPEAL OF UNITED STATES PARTICIPATION IN THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.

The joint resolution entitled `Joint Resolution providing for membership and participation by the United States in the World Health Organization and authorizing an appropriation therefor,' approved June 14, 1948 (22 U.S.C. 290, 290a-e-1) is repealed.

SEC. 10. REPEAL OF INVOLVEMENT IN UNITED NATIONS CONVENTIONS AND AGREEMENTS.

As of the date of the enactment of this Act, the United States will end any and all participation in any and all conventions and agreements with the United Nations and any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations. Any remaining functions of such conventions and agreements shall not be carried out.

SEC. 11. REEMPLOYMENT WITH UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AFTER SERVICE WITH AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION.

Nothing in this Act shall be construed to affect the rights of employees under subchapter IV of chapter 35 of title 5, United States Code, relating to reemployment after service with an international organization.

SEC. 12. NOTIFICATION.

Effective on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of State shall notify the United Nations and any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations of the provisions of this Act.

SEC. 13. EFFECTIVE DATE.

Except as otherwise provided, this Act and the amendments made by this Act shall take effect 2 years after the date of the enactment of this Act.



This isn't he first time he has introduced it either.

Pepsi
09-28-2009, 08:30 AM
Some one should tell him about Ron Pauls bill to do just that and get him on his foxnews show to talk about it.

SWATH
09-28-2009, 08:38 AM
I don't know about last couple days but.
[/URL][URL]http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1146: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1146:)
American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2009 (Introduced in House)



This isn't he first time he has introduced it either.

I know, but remember during the primary campaign every time Ron Paul would say something profound like that the media would ignore it, then, like clock work, Huckabee would say it too shortly thereafter, almost verbatim, and the media would be all over it like it was the first time anyone had uttered such words.

erowe1
09-28-2009, 08:39 AM
Some one should tell him about Ron Pauls bill to do just that and get him on his foxnews show to talk about it.

Won't happen. What Huckabee said was just for the moment. It wasn't something he ever wants to say again until the next time he talks to a group that would cheer for it. And if we ever bring up Ron Paul's bill to him, we'll see Huckabee backtrack as fast as he can and castigate it as the kind of "libertarian" idea he would never support.

specsaregood
09-28-2009, 09:03 AM
I know, but remember during the primary campaign every time Ron Paul would say something profound like that the media would ignore it, then, like clock work, Huckabee would say it too shortly thereafter, almost verbatim, and the media would be all over it like it was the first time anyone had uttered such words.

I remember it well.

stilltrying
09-28-2009, 10:28 AM
So Palin doesn't like the Fed, Huckabee doesn't like the UN, ........the next thing you know McCain will denounce undeclared wars.:rolleyes:

LOL LMFAO. So true so true. I think the world would freeze overnight if McCain did such a thing

BlackTerrel
09-28-2009, 08:35 PM
sounds to me like he would be perfect to be obamas opponent in 4 years and then headlines "Oh huckabee wants to eliminate UN" and then Obama gets reelected because the sheep think the UN is good

sounds like setting up for failure to me

Huckabee, like Palin in some respects, has a core group (read white evangelicals) that really likes him and will support him when it comes for election. But his appeal beyond that group is basically zero. That's a solid following, but it will never be enough to win an election or even a nomination. The only ones the Republicans have that would have a chance of winning against Obama are Paul, Romney, and maybe Jindal (or someone new who is off the radar right now). Anyone else and they might as well pack it in right now.