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jim49er
09-26-2009, 02:07 PM
YouTube - Ron Paul's speech, with Michele Bachmann (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YleZcGvr5UQ)

Don't Tread on Mike
09-26-2009, 02:41 PM
Awesome!

torchbearer
09-26-2009, 02:45 PM
he is still drawing big crowds.

Mahkato
09-26-2009, 02:58 PM
I still don't believe what happened at 1:43 - 2:20! That was surreal.

squarepusher
09-26-2009, 03:03 PM
I still don't believe what happened at 1:43 - 2:20! That was surreal.

OH SNAP graz!

torchbearer
09-26-2009, 03:03 PM
I still don't believe what happened at 1:43 - 2:20! That was surreal.

recognition feels good? :D
You earned it.

Matthew Zak
09-26-2009, 03:09 PM
When was this?

gimmeliberty
09-26-2009, 03:10 PM
I still don't believe what happened at 1:43 - 2:20! That was surreal.

atta boy !!!! Thank you!

Matthew Zak
09-26-2009, 03:12 PM
son of a bitch, I missed it. I thought he was coming in october.

squarepusher
09-26-2009, 03:12 PM
When was this?

last night, was great

Matthew Zak
09-26-2009, 03:16 PM
last night, was great

I swear it was a week ago I looked and I thought, "Oh, good, I have plenty of time." Here it's come and gone. How on earth...? Did I go through a time portal. I'm really pissed at myself for not attending that.

torchbearer
09-26-2009, 03:19 PM
Did I go through a time portal.

not a time portal-
http://www.cyberpursuits.com/heckifiknow/sliders/images/sldrs-quinn05.jpg

SimpleName
09-26-2009, 04:30 PM
Michele Bachmann...friend to liberty. She is coming around beautifully.

iddo
09-26-2009, 05:00 PM
Michele Bachmann...friend to liberty. She is coming around beautifully.

Not exactly, after this townhall she released a statement saying that she believes in "the mission of our men and women fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan." (link (http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/61590702.html?page=2&c=y))
Ron Paul decided to deliver a really hardcore libertarian message in this speech, he even brought up the drug war as a war on the taxpayer in the sense that the government wants to know on what you spend your money.
This speech could have a big impact, in part because the leftist clowns despise Michelle Bachmann, see:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/26/bachmann-ron-paul-event/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-09-26/the-craziest-town-hall-ever/

amy31416
09-26-2009, 06:18 PM
I still don't believe what happened at 1:43 - 2:20! That was surreal.

Standing ovation for you! :D

What an honor, and you deserve it.

MRoCkEd
09-26-2009, 06:28 PM
I think Bachmann was shocked Dr. Paul started talking about the war on drugs and the wars overseas. She invited him to talk about monetary policy. Haha. Well, I'm glad Ron didn't tone down his message even in the presence of a neocon.

amy31416
09-26-2009, 06:46 PM
I think Bachmann was shocked Dr. Paul started talking about the war on drugs and the wars overseas. She invited him to talk about monetary policy. Haha. Well, I'm glad Ron didn't tone down his message even in the presence of a neocon.

I don't think Bachmann is a neocon, I do think that she possibly bought into the warmongering for quite a while.

Since Paul's has an influence on her for a while now, I'll wait and see how she votes on things like the Patriot Act, the wars, etc., before I make a judgment.

Sandman33
09-26-2009, 08:15 PM
I still don't believe what happened at 1:43 - 2:20! That was surreal.

Thank you,

Thank you very much.

Dionysus
09-26-2009, 08:21 PM
That speech was a maximum dose of liberty! Awesome!

angelatc
09-26-2009, 08:25 PM
I don't think Bachmann is a neocon, I do think that she possibly bought into the warmongering for quite a while.

Since Paul's has an influence on her for a while now, I'll wait and see how she votes on things like the Patriot Act, the wars, etc., before I make a judgment.

SHe issued a statement after the speech clarifying that she still supports the missions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

We'll see.

specsaregood
09-26-2009, 08:29 PM
I don't think Bachmann is a neocon, I do think that she possibly bought into the warmongering for quite a while.

Since Paul's has an influence on her for a while now, I'll wait and see how she votes on things like the Patriot Act, the wars, etc., before I make a judgment.

Let's say you are a politician and you want to remain in office.....And all your colleagues say you have to sell out to the lobbyists and all your advisors are telling you the same thing.....you are distrusted and even hated by a significant portion of the public, but hey you have to do that to keep your job.......

Then along comes this guy that doesn't sell out or follow convential political advice and manages to stay in office despite the establishment hating him and campaigning against him and is absolutely adored and has crowds coming just to hear him and get to shake his hand in every state....The possibility of that could prove quite intoxicating.....Which would you rather be? The guy that stands by his principles and is loved and keeps his job? Or the guy that sells out, is hated; but gets to keep his job?

specsaregood
09-26-2009, 09:30 PM
That speech was awesome.
Has anybody found a link to the Q&A session?

Here is Bachmann's introduction:
YouTube - Rep Bachmann's Intro To Ron Paul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJyYiH7g38s)

ClayTrainor
09-26-2009, 10:12 PM
I still don't believe what happened at 1:43 - 2:20! That was surreal.

Thanks for doing what you do! :)

Bruno
09-26-2009, 10:14 PM
I still don't believe what happened at 1:43 - 2:20! That was surreal.

Congrats and thanks! That is awesome work!

emazur
09-26-2009, 10:21 PM
That speech was awesome.
Has anybody found a link to the Q&A session?

Here is Bachmann's introduction:
YouTube - Rep Bachmann's Intro To Ron Paul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJyYiH7g38s)

What an enthusiastic crowd - look at how they react when the subjects of auditing the Fed, voting against the bailout, and fighting inflation comes up.

As for the Q&A, I don't have video but I recorded the audio and posted it yesterday
http://depositfiles.com/files/io5kuvi8x
it's the last few minutes of RP's speech plus the Q/A session

edit: I decided to reupload the mp3 w/ just the Q/A:
http://depositfiles.com/files/xpcwuu48b

Mandrik
09-26-2009, 10:22 PM
Let's say you are a politician and you want to remain in office.....And all your colleagues say you have to sell out to the lobbyists and all your advisors are telling you the same thing.....you are distrusted and even hated by a significant portion of the public, but hey you have to do that to keep your job.......

Then along comes this guy that doesn't sell out or follow convential political advice and manages to stay in office despite the establishment hating him and campaigning against him and is absolutely adored and has crowds coming just to hear him and get to shake his hand in every state....The possibility of that could prove quite intoxicating.....Which would you rather be? The guy that stands by his principles and is loved and keeps his job? Or the guy that sells out, is hated; but gets to keep his job?

As long as politicians convert for the right reasons. The last thing we need is a wolf in sheep's clothing saying the same type of stuff RP talks about, but only to gain popularity. I'm not saying that's Bachmann, I'm just making a general statement.

specsaregood
09-26-2009, 10:33 PM
As long as politicians convert for the right reasons. The last thing we need is a wolf in sheep's clothing saying the same type of stuff RP talks about, but only to gain popularity. I'm not saying that's Bachmann, I'm just making a general statement.

What are the "right" reasons?
How about my question:
"Which would you rather be? The guy that stands by his principles and is loved and keeps his job? Or the guy that sells out, is hated; but gets to keep his job?"

NYgs23
09-26-2009, 10:37 PM
after this townhall she released a statement saying that she believes in "the mission of our men and women fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan."

I didn't really get that from the article you linked. It says, "But Paul fans know that these two Republicans don't always see eye-to-eye....On a currently hot issue, U.S. foreign policy, Bachmann issued a statement saying that she believes in 'the mission of our men and women fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.'" But it doesn't specify when she made the statement and, in fact, it appears to come from her congressional website (http://bachmann.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=2864).

She hasn't updated it, of course. But I find it hard to believe that she'd invite Ron Paul to speak without knowing that he might talk about foreign policy or that they wouldn't have discussed these things beforehand.

muh_roads
09-26-2009, 10:52 PM
Notice how Bachmann wouldn't clap during the war speeches or the drug war speeches.

Oh well. At least she is on our side when it comes to auditing and ending the fed. Without that creature in existence she couldn't have her war that her constituents love so much.

iddo
09-26-2009, 11:25 PM
it doesn't specify when she made the statement and, in fact, it appears to come from her congressional website (http://bachmann.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=2864).

She hasn't updated it, of course. But I find it hard to believe that she'd invite Ron Paul to speak without knowing that he might talk about foreign policy or that they wouldn't have discussed these things beforehand.

Right, I apologize, the words "issued a statement" in the article (http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/61590702.html?page=2&c=y) confused me... I think that Michele Bachmann has quite a few enemies in the local media in Minnesota, and in this case the wording of the article is somewhat unclear on purpose.
My guess is that her support for nation-building in Iraq and Afghanistan started to erode after Bush/McCain/Obama orchestrated the bailouts. Maybe she still supports nation-building, but at least she understands the economic problems that are associated with paying for it. I bet that after 8 years of Obama most of the Republicans in Congress will oppose nation-building, just like they did regarding Kosovo.

angelatc
09-26-2009, 11:39 PM
..Which would you rather be? The guy that stands by his principles and is loved and keeps his job? Or the guy that sells out, is hated; but gets to keep his job?

Do you think about how hard it is to be Ron Paul though? 30 freaking years of people calling you a crazy old crank, even though you've been right about every prediction you've made? I couldn't do it.

I have a hard time reading neocon sites when they're trashing him and preaching endless war. I can't imagine actually being him and having to deal with it, sometimes on on stage in front of a TV audience of millions.

angelatc
09-26-2009, 11:45 PM
http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/61590702.html?page=2&c=y


On a currently hot issue, U.S. foreign policy, Bachmann issued a statement saying that she believes in "the mission of our men and women fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan."

specsaregood
09-27-2009, 12:01 AM
Do you think about how hard it is to be Ron Paul though? 30 freaking years of people calling you a crazy old crank, even though you've been right about every prediction you've made? I couldn't do it.

I have a hard time reading neocon sites when they're trashing him and preaching endless war. I can't imagine actually being him and having to deal with it, sometimes on on stage in front of a TV audience of millions.

Yeah, I don't disagree with the sentiment. But for me personally I see turning down the brides and kickbacks and power as harder to deal with than the insults and illwill. But I think my comment holds some merit as far as letting other politicos know that going straight has its benefits as well.

Mahkato
09-27-2009, 11:58 AM
Yeah, I don't disagree with the sentiment. But for me personally I see turning down the brides and kickbacks and power as harder to deal with than the insults and illwill.

lol. I wonder how many marriage proposals Ron has gotten in his life? :D

specsaregood
09-28-2009, 04:57 AM
lol. I wonder how many marriage proposals Ron has gotten in his life? :D

LOL, nice catch.

found the Q&A session.

YouTube - Part 8 Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann at University of Minnesota (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKN_JDMuKwU)
YouTube - Part 9 Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann at University of Minnesota (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFGouFF5fSI)
YouTube - Part 10 Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann at University of Minnesota (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvOeQsECz00)

NYgs23
09-28-2009, 05:19 AM
for me personally I see turning down the brides and kickbacks and power as harder to deal with than the insults and illwill.

My grandmother, who was involved in local politics for some time, had an interesting story about that. Some people wanted her to consider running for the city council. At this time, some company wanted to build an outlet on a piece of property that wasn't zoned for it. She learned that the company had given the city council members several thousand dollars each to vote to rezone. She wondered, "At what point would I just take the money, given that everyone else is and it's gonna pass anyway?" She decided against running.

hugolp
09-28-2009, 05:49 AM
LOL, nice catch.

found the Q&A session.

Thanks a lot.