View Full Version : Successfully reaching neo-cons for Ron Paul: talking points

09-30-2007, 12:22 PM
Following the successes (especially with neo-cons) mentioned by rodent and others in this thread:


I wanted to start a new thread about collating talking points because I think this approach is a real winner.

Everyone understands the value of MONEY! And as the primaries and then the elections draw near, I think this is going to be just as big an issue as the Iraq War, maybe even bigger, because the increasing loss of value in the dollar and related economic turmoil will be taking effect right here at home.

I've put together links below to some money-related conversation points. You don't have to argue with dems or neo-cons about the Iraq war, terrorism or other hot button issues that stop them from joining the Ron Paul bandwagon, just use any of these conversation points and/or the flier in the thread above, show them the charts and basically scare the heck out 'em (b'cos it is scary), then tell them only Ron Paul is talking about this issue and actually has workable solutions to rectify them.

They will have to make a choice between the dollar in their pockets halving in value and being drafted for war with Iran or keeping the value of their dollar (& no IRS) and staying home.

I really feel the second biggest election issue will turn out be a potential US dollar & economic collapse because believe me, we are rapidly heading in that direction. And the thing is that this issue is closely linked with the war in Iraq. Only Ron Paul is talking about it NOW and only Ron Paul has the right solutions and the knowledge and credibility to deliver the solution.

So the idea is to have some quick facts to use as conversation points, please add any more good ones you find!


The Money Masters -- How International Bankers Gained Control of America (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936)
...excellent introduction to the creation and corruption of money from a US perspective

Creature From Jekyll Island (http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/radio.blog/)
...excellent presentation by G Edward Griffin, based on his book of the same name. He explains how the banking establishment created the Federal Reserve in secrecy and by deception

Peter Schiff on the US economy (http://www.europac.net/video_cnbc_050425.asp)
...excellent synopsis of the problems with the US economy, and exactly why we won't drag the rest of the world down with us

Peter Schiff on Inflation (http://www.europac.net/Schiff-SquawkBox-6-13-06_lg.asp)
...good education on the real definition of inflation, and its implications -- especially how it is a tax on the middle class and the poor

Jim Rogers interview (http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?clipSRC=mms://media2.bloomberg.com/cache/vjUSJ.lwS8e0.asf)
...this is the guy that predicted the commodities boom, founded the Quantum fund alongside George Soros and "broke" the Bank of England in 1992. Here, he lays out what he sees happening to the US dollar


Congress agrees to raise U.S. credit limit, (http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2742101920070928)
...otherwise we would be technically bankrupt

Greenspan alert on US house prices, (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/31207860-647f-11dc-90ea-0000779fd2ac.html)
...says they are likely to fall significantly by up to double-digit %

China threatens 'nuclear option' of dollar sales, (http://tinyurl.com/25253g)
...chineses govt. officials now talking about using its' massive dollar reserves as a political weapon against the US.

Investors withdraw $55bn from hedge funds, (http://tinyurl.com/yq94xp)
...just in July alone and they haven't stopped!

Diminution of the dollar, (http://www.livemint.com/2007/07/17002319/Diminution-of-the-dollar.html)
...dollar about to break 20-year low against six other currencies —the Euro, Japanese yen, British pound, Canadian dollar, Swedish krona and the Swiss franc

It’s Official: The Crash of the U.S. Economy has begun, (http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5964)
...and the article specifically mentions Ron Paul as the only Republican presidential candidate talking about it

China creating company to invest US$1 trillion reserves, (http://tinyurl.com/2b3ull)
...and they'll be buying up US assets on the cheap as the dollar loses value

Abdullah Says Malaysia Has Shifted Reserves Away From Dollar, (http://tinyurl.com/yt7l9d)
...abandoning a sinking ship?

Venezuela to Speed Plan to Cut Dollars in Reserves, (http://tinyurl.com/yshebq)
...and another

UAE may make decisive shift in dollar reserves, (http://tinyurl.com/2fhjgs)
...and another

Iran reduces US dollar exposure, (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6498695.stm)
...and another

Fears of dollar collapse as Saudis take fright, (http://tinyurl.com/3cp9jq)
...I thought the Saudi's are our friends, why are they deserting us in our time of need?

Canadian Dollar Trades Equal to U.S. for First Time Since 1976, (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aDBegmV7h0cU)
...might be a good place to move to if Ron Paul doesn't win - just kidding (?)

Big scary charts here (http://goldsilver.com/the_dow_is_crashing.php?)
...US dollar vs Gold; DOW vs food/crude oil/all major currencies/e.t.c


09-30-2007, 12:49 PM
Don't forget David Walker:



09-30-2007, 01:54 PM
Bump. This is important. Grab the flier from the other thread. We need this as a sticky.

09-30-2007, 02:23 PM
Here's a better video of the fiscal crisis:


09-30-2007, 03:55 PM
Bumping until someone tells me not to or stickies this and the other flier. These resources are critical for conversion of neo-cons. They have opinions on war, but still do not see the financial crisis.

10-01-2007, 08:30 AM
So anyone else have any thoughts about this approach? More videos & articles would be great too.

10-01-2007, 10:11 AM
I dunno... I doubt they are going to listen since Dick Cheney already told them "defecits don't matter."

10-01-2007, 10:50 AM
The David Walker "Wake up" Tour is a big.

When the top accountant in the nation is touring the country to tell people that there isn't enough money and we're in trouble, it sends a message.