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Matt Collins
09-24-2009, 12:46 AM
Here is a free video from FoxNews noting that GW Bush killed conservatism:


http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=011008&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=9947390&referralPlaylistId=playlist

purplechoe
09-24-2009, 12:51 AM
http://blog.kir.com/archives/George-Bush%20frowning.jpg

Andrew-Austin
09-24-2009, 12:57 AM
And Faux news was there to help.

Matt Collins
09-24-2009, 12:58 AM
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x93/sonicspikesalbum/Obama/nochange.jpg

Matt Collins
09-24-2009, 12:59 AM
And Faux news was there to help.Did you watch the video? You really should? ;)

anaconda
09-24-2009, 01:05 AM
Here is a free video from FoxNews noting that GW Bush killed conservatism:


http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=011008&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=9947390&referralPlaylistId=playlist


I can barely blame Bush. It's been a slippery slope for many decades, at least. They are all crooked or manipulated.

Liberty_Tree
09-24-2009, 02:37 AM
http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/files/images/george-w-bush.jpg

bunklocoempire
09-24-2009, 03:06 AM
Thanks for posting. A great vid for helping a neocon supporter realize the error of their ways.

Gotta like the Judge and Freedom Watch.:)

Bunkloco

KAYA
09-24-2009, 07:25 AM
And Faux news was there to help.

This a clip of Judge Napolitono and Nick Gillespie on Freedom watch. Hardly neo-con TV.

angelatc
09-24-2009, 07:27 AM
And Faux news was there to help.

No kidding. I know this line is overused, but.....

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

KAYA
09-24-2009, 07:33 AM
No kidding. I know this line is overused, but.....

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Have you ever seen Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitono?

Working Poor
09-24-2009, 08:06 AM
If you want to get down to brass tacks about who's fault all this stuff is really it is the people's fault because we the people have sat on our asses and just let our representatives do what ever they wanted up in Washington.

The people have not exercised their power when clearly we do not want war. If we were to polll all the people of the world I would think war would be at the top of the list of things the people want to end.

Why the people of the world continue to yield to the war mongering high government officials and send their children to war is beyond my comprehension. People like GW get away with calling this compassion and we just sat on our asses and let him do what he did. It is the fault of the people. When will we tell the government no to anything that is not about what we want?

The people who oppose the government are labeled "nut jobs" by the media and we keep watching their news shows and clicking their links online and buy what they sell. I am tired of being so discredited and over looked.

Bruno
09-24-2009, 08:18 AM
http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/files/images/george-w-bush.jpg

I've always hated his posturing, it looks so awkward.

Pennsylvania
09-24-2009, 08:30 AM
Bush most certainly did not kill conservatism. Conservatism is nothing other than support for whatever system is the status quo, or the current system. The status quo is the Federal Reserve Act, Patriot Act, Controlled Substances Act, National Firearms Act, fiat money, massive spending, foreign military occupation, monopoly, and corruption.

Ron Paul is not a conservative, but a radical, and one of our best weapons against conservatism.

KAYA
09-24-2009, 08:48 AM
Bush most certainly did not kill conservatism. Conservatism is nothing other than support for whatever system is the status quo, or the current system. The status quo is the Federal Reserve Act, Patriot Act, Controlled Substances Act, National Firearms Act, fiat money, massive spending, foreign military occupation, monopoly, and corruption.

Ron Paul is not a conservative, but a radical, and one of our best weapons against conservatism.

Your definition of conservatism is inaccurate. Ron Paul is a conservative, a Goldwater conservative. I think you meant neo-con.

Pennsylvania
09-24-2009, 08:52 AM
Your definition of conservatism is inaccurate. Ron Paul is a conservative, a Goldwater conservative. I think you meant neo-con.

Conservatism existed before Goldwater. It has existed since the enlightenment as apologia for the then-current mercantilist system. The United States were born out of classical liberal resistance to conservatism. The connotation of conservatism which is currently espoused by many advocates of constitutional republicanism is essentially progressive-era statist propaganda.

See the wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism) for verification.

KAYA
09-24-2009, 09:01 AM
Conservatism existed before Goldwater. It has existed since the enlightenment as apologia for the then-current mercantilist system. The United States were born out of classical liberal resistance to conservatism. The connotation of conservatism which is currently espoused by many advocates of constitutional republicanism is essentially progressive-era statist propaganda.

See the wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism) for verification.

Yes, that is called neo-conservatism meaning "new" conservatism. Giving conservatism a neo-conservative definition is inaccurate.

AdamT
09-24-2009, 09:13 AM
Bush was a puppet of higher masters. As is O.

Pennsylvania
09-24-2009, 09:13 AM
Yes, that is called neo-conservatism meaning "new" conservatism. Giving conservatism a neo-conservative definition is inaccurate.

I believe the point may have been missed. I am aware of the distinction that "conservatives" make between themselves and "neo-conservatives". The point I am making is that the former are actually radicals, and the latter actually are conservatives. When Ron Paul talks about "conservatism", he is referring to constitutional republicanism. The problem with this view is that it was thrust upon free-marketeers in the progressive era in order to make them seem outdated, backwards, and reactionary. The constitutional republican position is a derivative of classical liberal ideals, not conservative ones. Neo-conservatism, on the other hand, more closely resembles the "classical" conservative position of preserving the status quo.

Annihilia
09-24-2009, 10:05 AM
I believe the point may have been missed. I am aware of the distinction that "conservatives" make between themselves and "neo-conservatives". The point I am making is that the former are actually radicals, and the latter actually are conservatives. When Ron Paul talks about "conservatism", he is referring to constitutional republicanism. The problem with this view is that it was thrust upon free-marketeers in the progressive era in order to make them seem outdated, backwards, and reactionary. The constitutional republican position is a derivative of classical liberal ideals, not conservative ones. Neo-conservatism, on the other hand, more closely resembles the "classical" conservative position of preserving the status quo.

I'm glad you brought this up.

People typically don't realize that the word "conservative" was a label used by statist propagandists to vilify classical liberalism. Progressives are natural enemies of the liberal tradition, but they've co-opted the term in one of the greatest political marketing maneuvers in recent American history.

muh_roads
09-24-2009, 10:07 AM
I got excited too fast. I thought it said "GW Bush killed" and didn't read the last word. Damn.

lx43
09-24-2009, 01:02 PM
The conservative wing of the republican party (with the exception of Ron Paul and maybe Walter Jones, Jeff Flakes) have been dead much longer than GWB terms in office.

Matt Collins
09-24-2009, 02:00 PM
I got excited too fast. I thought it said "GW Bush killed" and didn't read the last word. Damn.:eek:


That's funny :p