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max
09-23-2009, 08:07 PM
Instead of Kentucky's newspapers leading with the Rand bomb...they now be all abuzz about a murder that happened on Sept 12th....a murder being linked to "anti-government" sentiment.

Why was this info sat on for so long?...Why today?.....And who commits murder by hanging their victim?????

Why did FEDS hold onto the corpse so long? Why are they telling his mom to cremate - not bury - the body? Why did they allow it to rot and decompose when they could have refrigerated it?

I smell a rat...


Where are you seeing/ hearing this?

http://cbs13.com/national/census.worker.hanged.2.1204241.html

Census Worker Found Hanged With 'Fed' On Chest
Source Tells AP Kentucky Man Found Hanged Near Cemetery With Word Scrawled On Body

WASHINGTON (AP) ―

A U.S. Census worker found hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery had the word "fed" scrawled on his chest, a law enforcement official said Wednesday, and the FBI is investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment.

The law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the case and requested anonymity, did not say what type of instrument was used to write the word on the chest of Bill Sparkman, a 51-year-old part-time Census field worker and teacher. He was found Sept. 12 in a remote patch of the Daniel Boone National Forest in rural southeast Kentucky.

The Census Bureau has suspended door-to-door interviews in rural Clay County, where the body was found, pending the outcome of the investigation. An autopsy report is pending.

Investigators have said little about the case. FBI spokesman David Beyer said the bureau is assisting state police and declined to confirm or discuss any details about the crime scene.

"Our job is to determine if there was foul play involved — and that's part of the investigation — and if there was foul play involved, whether that is related to his employment as a Census worker," said Beyer.

Attacking a federal worker during or because of his federal job is a federal crime.

Sparkman's mother, Henrie Sparkman of Inverness, Fla., told The Associated Press her son was an Eagle scout who moved to the area to be a local director for the Boy Scouts of America. She said he later became a substitute teacher in Laurel County and supplemented that income as a Census worker.

She said investigators have given her few details about her son's death — they told her the body was decomposed — and haven't yet released his body for burial. "I was told it would be better for him to be cremated," she said.Henrie Sparkman said her son's death is a mystery to her.

"I have my own ideas, but I can't say them out loud. Not at this point," she said. "Right now, what I'm doing, I'm just waiting on the FBI to come to some conclusion."

Gilbert Acciardo, a retired Kentucky state trooper who directs an after-school program at the elementary school where Sparkman was a frequent substitute teacher, said he had warned Sparkman to be careful when he did his Census work.

"I told him on more than one occasion, based on my years in the state police, 'Mr. Sparkman, when you go into those counties, be careful because people are going to perceive you different than they do elsewhere,'" Acciardo said.

"Even though he was with the Census Bureau, sometimes people can view someone with any government agency as 'the government.' I just was afraid that he might meet the wrong character along the way up there," Acciardo said.

Acciardo said he became suspicious when Sparkman didn't show up for work at the after-school program for two days and went to police. Authorities immediately initiated an investigation, he said.

"He was such an innocent person," Acciardo said. "I hate to say that he was naive, but he saw the world as all good, and there's a lot of bad in the world."

Lucindia Scurry-Johnson, assistant director of the Census Bureau's southern office in Charlotte, N.C., said law enforcement officers have told the agency the matter is "an apparent homicide" but nothing else.

Census employees were told Sparkman's truck was found nearby, and a computer he was using for work was found inside it, she said. He worked part-time for the Census, usually conducting interviews once or twice a month.

Sparkman has worked for the Census since 2003, spanning five counties in the surrounding area. Much of his recent work had been in Clay County, officials said.

Door-to-door operations have been suspended in Clay County pending a resolution of the investigation, Scurry-Johnson said.

The Census Bureau has yet to begin door-to-door canvassing for the 2010 head count, but it has thousands of field workers doing smaller surveys on various demographic topics on behalf of federal agencies. Next year, the Census Bureau will dispatch up to 1.2 million temporary employees to locate hard-to-find residents.

The Census Bureau is overseen by the Commerce Department.

"We are deeply saddened by the loss of our co-worker," Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said in a statement. "Our thoughts and prayers are with William Sparkman's son, other family and friends."

Locke called him "a shining example of the hardworking men and women employed by the Census Bureau."

Appalachia scholar Roy Silver, a New York City native now living in Harlan County, Ky., said he doesn't sense an outpouring of anti-government sentiment in the region as has been exhibited in town hall meetings in other parts of the country.

"I don't think distrust of government is any more or less here than anywhere else in the country," said Silver, a sociology professor at Southeast Community College.

The most deadly attack on federal workers came in 1995 when the federal building in Oklahoma City was devastated by a truck bomb, killing 168 and injuring more than 680. Timothy McVeigh, who was executed for the bombing, carried literature by modern, ultra-right-wing anti-government authors.
A private group called PEER, Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, tracks violence against employees who enforce environmental regulations, but the group's executive director, Jeff Ruch, said it's hard to know about all of the cases because some agencies don't share data on instances of violence against employees.

From 1996 to 2006, according to the group's most recent data, violent incidents against federal Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service workers soared from 55 to 290.

Ruch said that after the 1995 bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City, "we kept getting reports from employees that attacks and intimidation against federal employees had not diminished, and that's why we've been tracking them."

"Even as illustrated in town hall meetings today, there is a distinct hostility in a large segment of the population toward people who work for their government," Ruch said.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
09-23-2009, 08:13 PM
Where are you seeing/ hearing this?

Liberty Rebellion
09-23-2009, 08:14 PM
Instead of Kentucky's newspapers leading with the Rand bomb...they now be all abuzz about a murder that happened on Sept 12th....a murder being linked to "anti-government" sentiment.

Why was this info sat on?...And who commits murder by hanging their victim?????

I smell a rat

Good catch. I read the AP article and skipped right over that detail.

Liberty Rebellion
09-23-2009, 08:15 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jbzG_BlkG2Hfc818EPRRn1bBlP6gD9AT92400

max
09-23-2009, 08:16 PM
pasted to OP

Dionysus
09-23-2009, 08:17 PM
It's so Trey Grayson can scare his rich friends about Ron Paul supporters.

Captain Bryan
09-23-2009, 08:19 PM
Very interesting...

max
09-23-2009, 08:20 PM
and why did the Feds suggest to his mom that he would be better off cremated instead of buried????? Why was it allowed to "decompose".....They could have refrigerated it!!!

They gave this woman a rotted corpse that they held for all this time!!!!!

Dionysus
09-23-2009, 08:23 PM
I'm just saying...


One such operation was related to the superstitious dread in the rural ares of the country. A small psywar group would enter a region and spread rumors that an aswang, a ghoul like, mythical vampire, roamed the area where the Communists were based. After giving time for the rumors to circulate among the guerrillas in the area -- it was learned where a Huk patrol would pass through an area. A camouflaged position was selected for launching an ambush -- when the opportunity finally arrived the last man in the column of passing guerrillas was quickly and silently snatched and dragged away. His neck was punctured vampire style with two pricks, his body hung upside down to let the blood drain and the corpse then placed back on the trail. As superstitious as most of the other rural Filipinos, the guerrilla insurgents fled the area.

http://saipanstewart.com/essays/coldwar.html

Bruno
09-23-2009, 08:25 PM
something is rotten in Denmark

YumYum
09-23-2009, 08:29 PM
Kentucky has been hit hard by drug enforcement busting pot growers. This could have been a retaliation for one of those bust. Most likely it was a hit job by neocons, which they will blame on Rand Paul supporters.

pinkmandy
09-23-2009, 08:30 PM
I don't know. I'd also guess the census worker was white. I can't imagine the MSM would have sat on an opportunity to talk about the murder (hanging) of a black census worker by an anti-govt extremist(s) in a southern state.

The timing of releasing this is important. I don't know if it's because of Rand or not as this will probably be national news. Isn't the Patriot Act up for renewal?

TheConstitutionLives
09-23-2009, 08:30 PM
Instead of Kentucky's newspapers leading with the Rand bomb...they now be all abuzz about a murder that happened on Sept 12th....a murder being linked to "anti-government" sentiment.

Why was this info sat on?...And who commits murder by hanging their victim????? Why did FEDS hold onto the corpse so long? Why are they telling his mom to creamte - not bury - the body? Why did they allow it to rot and decompose when they could have refrigerated it?

I smell a rat

You smell a rat if your mailman takes too long putting the mail in your mailbox.

FindLiberty
09-23-2009, 08:34 PM
You smell a rat if your mailman takes too long putting the mail in your mailbox.

Yea, something smells fishy then...

max
09-23-2009, 08:34 PM
You smell a rat if your mailman takes too long putting the mail in your mailbox.

You really cant see through this bullshit????


How about answering the questions I raise before you give the standard knee-jerk reaction..."Conspiracy theorist...blah...blah"

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
09-23-2009, 08:59 PM
pasted to OP

Thanks.


And yeah, sounds like crap. I watched the media manipulation all through the campaign last year.

RedStripe
09-23-2009, 09:12 PM
I really don't think this is connected to Rand Paul. I doubt he is really on the radar of anyone in the FBI.

Do you really think they were like "Oh shit, Rand Paul's 'moneybomb' is coming up - let's fuck up this investigation and potentially jeopardize our careers by releasing this story in such a way that the timing might slightly reduce the impact of his fundraising event!"

I really don't think thats how things work in these organizations. It's really not that well coordinated.

YumYum
09-23-2009, 09:16 PM
I really don't think this is connected to Rand Paul. I doubt he is really on the radar of anyone in the FBI.

Do you really think they were like "Oh shit, Rand Paul's 'moneybomb' is coming up - let's fuck up this investigation and potentially jeopardize our careers by releasing this story in such a way that the timing might slightly reduce the impact of his fundraising event!"

I really don't think thats how things work in these organizations. It's really not that well coordinated.

You sure know how to take the fun out of something!

SWATH
09-23-2009, 09:43 PM
I've known about this for a week or so and I have also been perplexed why the story had not broken until today.

RedStripe
09-23-2009, 09:49 PM
You sure know how to take the fun out of something!

Well, you see that's exactly why the FBI pays me to come on this forum and...

shit, I've said too much!

:p

brandon
09-23-2009, 09:57 PM
All the oddities in the story are likely just a result of standard government inefficiency. They found the body, took too long to investigate, body decomposed meanwhile...eventually they realized they had to tell the family. Now the body is so decomposed they don't want the mom to see it so they recommend cremation.

max
09-23-2009, 10:05 PM
All the oddities in the story are likely just a result of standard government inefficiency. They found the body, took too long to investigate, body decomposed meanwhile...eventually they realized they had to tell the family. Now the body is so decomposed they don't want the mom to see it so they recommend cremation.

FBI is not inefficient. This was a Federal offense.

Refrigerating corpses is standard procedure.

David A. Gay, Sr.
09-24-2009, 10:57 PM
FBI is not inefficient. This was a Federal offense.

Refrigerating corpses is standard procedure.

He's right about that!

JoshLowry
09-24-2009, 11:17 PM
I want to know how you both know about the standard procedure of refrigerating corpses.

:p :confused: :o

max
09-24-2009, 11:43 PM
I want to know how you both know about the standard procedure of refrigerating corpses.

:p :confused: :o

i saw it on CSI. lol

seriously, all morgues are refrigerated and toe tags are put on bodies. The stench would be unbearable otherwise and you wouldnt be able to do autopsy.

http://www.funeralis.com/funeral_directory_company/ceabis__hospital_and_morgue_refrigeration_equipmen ts/

Imperial
09-25-2009, 12:33 AM
FBI is not inefficient. This was a Federal offense.

Refrigerating corpses is standard procedure.

Could his body have decomposed before he was found?

Probably though they aren't saying too much in order to not let people jump the gun and start a huge census war over his death when the investigation is still ongoing.

Someone just couldnt keep their lips shut.

DeadheadForPaul
09-25-2009, 04:57 PM
Many of the people in this thread frighten the hell out of me

I could fully see some of you committing this crime

If you think this guy "got what was coming" or that the FBI killed a guy to connect the murder to Rand's campaign or libertarian sentiment, please seek help immediately. I'm not joking...before you hurt someone

dannno
09-25-2009, 05:06 PM
Many of the people in this thread frighten the hell out of me

I could fully see some of you committing this crime

If you think this guy "got what was coming" or that the FBI killed a guy to connect the murder to Rand's campaign or libertarian sentiment, please seek help immediately. I'm not joking...before you hurt someone

Well maybe you can tell us why they waited 2 weeks until the day of Rand's money bomb to announce.. that was actually the point of the thread, lol :rolleyes:

You're the one hallucinating on things that aren't in here. Not that there's anything wrong with that, except that you have a pretty weird statist mindset for a so-called "deadhead"..

Mini-Me
09-25-2009, 05:12 PM
Many of the people in this thread frighten the hell out of me

I could fully see some of you committing this crime

If you think this guy "got what was coming" or that the FBI killed a guy to connect the murder to Rand's campaign or libertarian sentiment, please seek help immediately. I'm not joking...before you hurt someone

The latter thought (bolded for emphasis) may be a bit paranoid, but I don't exactly see how you're reading "dangerous person" into it. :rolleyes:

devil21
09-25-2009, 06:03 PM
As much as I enjoy conspiracy talk, I think it's best that we don't do the manufacturing of a connection to Rand's campaign or supporters when it's not warranted. You're only giving them ammo and ideas.