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JoshLowry
09-22-2009, 01:48 PM
Some good bits in her article...


In the film, Michael describes capitalism as evil. I disagree. I don't think capitalism is evil. I think what we have right now is not capitalism.

In capitalism as envisioned by its leading lights, including Adam Smith and Alfred Marshall, you need a moral foundation in order for free markets to work. And when a company fails, it fails. It doesn't get bailed out using trillions of dollars of taxpayer money. What we have right now is Corporatism. It's welfare for the rich. It's the government picking winners and losers. It's Wall Street having their taxpayer-funded cake and eating it too. It's socialized losses and privatized gains.

After a preview screening last week (at which I did a Q&A session with Michael), he came over to my home for a late night bite. Over lasagna, he told me about an incident that occurred while he was filming that exemplifies how the economic crisis cannot be looked at through a left vs right prism.


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/barack-obama-must-see-mic_b_293407.html

kahless
09-22-2009, 01:50 PM
Some good bits in her article...

Coming from anywhere else this would not be a surpise. But from them., hell must have frozen over.

JoshLowry
09-22-2009, 01:57 PM
Coming from anywhere else this would not be a surpise. But from them., hell must have frozen over.

She got to talk to Ron Paul for a bit about a week ago on Morning Joe.

Maybe something clicked for her, or maybe it's just the media pandering more... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjVpr3zIr8E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjVpr3zIr8)

dannno
09-22-2009, 02:00 PM
Lolz!!


it happened while he and his crew were shooting the climax of the movie, where michael decides to mark wall street as a crime scene, putting up yellow police tape around some of the financial district's towers of power.

While unfurling the tape in front of a "too big to fail" bank, he became aware of a group of new york's finest approaching him. Moore has a long history of dealing with policemen and security guards trying to shut him down, but in this case he knew he was, however temporarily, defacing private property. And his shooting schedule didn't leave room for a detour to the local jail. So, as the lead officer came closer, moore tried to deflect him, saying: "just doing a little comedy here, officer. I'll be gone in a minute, and will clean up before i go."

the officer looked at him for a moment, then leaned in: "take all the time you need." he nodded to the bank and said, "these guys wiped out a lot of our police pension funds." the officer turned and slowly headed back to his squad car. Moore wanted to put the moment in his film, but realized it could cost the cop his job, and decided to leave it out. "when they've lost the police," he told me, "you know they're in trouble."


read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/barack-obama-must-see-mic_b_293407.html

Todd
09-22-2009, 02:14 PM
Hey it's great that Michael Moore thinks there is no left right paradigm...cept his solutions are all left right oriented.

Here's my favorite quote from this article and why Michael Moore is a loony who doesn't have a clue.


"he had made the movie for "an audience of one. President Obama. I hope he sees it and remembers who put him in the White House... and it wasn't Goldman Sachs."

Uh...Yes it was.

He truly thinks Obama is a man of the people. How sad.

Cowlesy
09-22-2009, 02:18 PM
I recall Arianna Huffington swooning about Jim Grant of Grant's Interest Rate Observer one morning on CNBC --- I wish she'd absorb more of what he writes.

Reason
09-22-2009, 02:27 PM
I was just having a discussion last night after watching a preview for his movie about how retarded it was that he is bashing capitalism when in the preview he is focusing on bailouts...

Dreamofunity
09-22-2009, 03:18 PM
"and amazing footage of FDR, found buried in a film archive and not seen in decades, calling for a Second Bill of Rights that would guarantee all Americans a useful job, a decent home, adequate health care, and a good education."

Ew.

constituent
09-22-2009, 04:11 PM
She's quite proud of her republican "past," iirc.

I'm not concerned either way, this is just the bit she's been doing here lately.

Some kinda "revelation" trip (fancy that).

BillyDkid
09-22-2009, 04:48 PM
I was just having a discussion last night after watching a preview for his movie about how retarded it was that he is bashing capitalism when in the preview he is focusing on bailouts...And he, apparently, can't even grasp the irony. We have not have had capitalism in this country for more than a century.

dannno
09-22-2009, 04:52 PM
And he, apparently, can't even grasp the irony. We have not have had capitalism in this country for more than a century.

Well Arianna knows this and she had a meal with Moore recently after seeing the film, so hopefully she discussed this facet with him.

Michael Moore is a smart guy who has a knack for recognizing societal problems, unfortunately he has been engulfed in leftist sentiment and does not yet understand the solutions to the problems that he so eloquently outlines and allows others to experience.

SelfTaught
09-22-2009, 04:54 PM
After a preview screening last week (at which I did a Q&A session with Michael), he came over to my home for a late night bite. Over lasagna...

Why is she feeding this man?

dannno
09-22-2009, 04:55 PM
Why is she feeding this man?

I dunno, maybe it was healthful organic vegetable lasagna :confused:

YumYum
09-22-2009, 05:12 PM
I think today's capitalist are giving bank robbers a bad name.

dannno
09-22-2009, 05:15 PM
I think today's capitalist are giving bank robbers a bad name.

They aren't capitalists, that's the whole point.. they are privatizing profits and socializing losses, that isn't capitalism..

Vessol
09-22-2009, 05:48 PM
This doesn't surprise me at all. Huffington had a show with Ron Paul awhile ago on Morning Joe where she agree with him on every point and thinks we should end the Federal Reserve and that this isn't a capitalistic society.

But no, you all were too busy saying that Huffington is a evil socialist.

Bman
09-22-2009, 06:22 PM
Yeah leave it to Michael Moore to not to his homework.

The films name should have been Facism.