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paulitics
09-17-2009, 08:43 AM
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1924348-2,00.html


New propaganda hit piece on the media's supposed new face of "libertarianism".

angelatc
09-17-2009, 08:49 AM
David Frum approves. Wow - the neocons and the media have all picked this week to start an anti-Beck meme. What a conicidence.

This will get Glenn off of ACORN's trail for a while. :)


As melodrama, it's thumping good stuff. But as politics, it's sort of a train wreck — at once powerful, spellbinding and uncontrolled.

Because it's obviously very important to control the political messages. God knows you don't want to get people upset.

InterestedParticipant
09-17-2009, 08:50 AM
Glenn Beck is a diversion, see this thread
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=210464

ClayTrainor
09-17-2009, 08:53 AM
So an individual american voicing his opinion and dissent towards government, is bad for America?

What principles was your country founded upon, again?

InterestedParticipant
09-17-2009, 09:06 AM
Time magazine cover: "Glenn beck Madman, Is lenn Beck bad for America?"
So, they give us our false vector leaders, like Glenn Beck, and then they use the vector leader to "program" the audience with wacky ideas and promote the "false vector leader" as the real leader. Then they send the false vector leader off the deep-end, make him seem crazy, and attack him in MSM so that all audiences can see that the false vector leader is crazy, hence, the entire vector-set (libertarians) are crazy.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2009/0909/a_wbeck_0928.jpg

This is why our leaders, if we are going to have any at all (and which I do not recommend), must organically rise from the rank and file so that they accurately represent libertarian values. Adopting false vector leaders, or media idols, is a recipe for self destruction.

The main point here to take away is, that they give us our leaders.

Sandra
09-17-2009, 09:08 AM
Murdoch = Beck = O'Reilly = Hannity = factions of neoconservatism.

Ruperts battle cry: "Lets hit'em at all angles, at every level!"

Pennsylvania
09-17-2009, 09:08 AM
"Yeah, Well fortunately for you not too many people read your little Time magazine!" - Derek Zoolander

Sandra
09-17-2009, 09:10 AM
So, they give us our false vector leaders, like Glenn Beck, and then they use the vector leader to "program" the audience with wacky ideas and promote the "false vector leader" as the real leader. Then they send the false vector leader off the deep-end, make him seem crazy, and attack him in MSM so that all audiences can see that the false vector leader is crazy, hence, the entire vector-set (libertarians) are crazy.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2009/0909/a_wbeck_0928.jpg

This is why our leaders, if we are going to have any at all (and which I do not recommend), must organically rise from the rank and file so that they accurately represent libertarian values. Adopting false vector leaders, or media idols, is a recipe for self destruction.

The main point here to take away is, that they give us our leaders.

This post is sublime!

gls
09-17-2009, 09:15 AM
I wonder if "libertarian" Glenn Beck will endorse Romney, Palin or Giuliani next go around. :rolleyes:

Sandra
09-17-2009, 09:17 AM
Ye shall know a libertarian by his works.

catdd
09-17-2009, 09:18 AM
They are looking for leaders of the patriot movement in an effort to stomp it out.
Destroy the "leaders" and you destroy the movement they feel.
That's why its good not to have any official leaders.

InterestedParticipant
09-17-2009, 09:25 AM
They are looking for leaders of the patriot movement in an effort to stomp it out.
Destroy the "leaders" and you destroy the movement they feel.
That's why its good not to have any official leaders.
Excellent!

See this thread for more on this..
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2320731

catdd
09-17-2009, 09:41 AM
Excellent!

See this thread for more on this..
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2320731

And if an important member goes down - quickly replace him with another. Don't let the flag touch the ground!

Sandra
09-17-2009, 09:50 AM
Frum and Horowitz are attempting to "frame" Beck as more libertarian than them. But they know he's not.

paulitics
09-17-2009, 09:53 AM
They are looking for leaders of the patriot movement in an effort to stomp it out.
Destroy the "leaders" and you destroy the movement they feel.
That's why its good not to have any official leaders.

Exactly. I just want to add, they usually pose as the leaders. It makes it alot easier to set up the pins, and knock them down.

catdd
09-17-2009, 09:56 AM
Exactly. I just want to add, they usually pose as the leaders. It makes it alot easier to set up the pins, and knock them down.

Beck needs to denounce any leadership role at once. He should laugh off the very notion.
But if his ego will not allow that - if he so desires to be the "leader" the assault will be relentless.

Dr.3D
09-17-2009, 10:00 AM
So do we always pay attention to a CFR owned rag like Time Magazine?

catdd
09-17-2009, 10:08 AM
So do we always pay attention to a CFR owned rag like Time Magazine?

No, but I think there's a battle for the moderates going on. The left knows what's up and so does the right. It's all the sleepers in the middle that could be effected by leftist mags like TIME.

Liberty Star
09-17-2009, 12:08 PM
If Beck did not retrieve from going after next Obama czar on his list, his standing would improve :

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2320769&postcount=1


So do we always pay attention to a CFR owned rag like Time Magazine?

Yea.
I also never understood why so many people here pay attention to Rupert "Obama's a rock star" Murdoch owned Fox : -)

angelatc
09-17-2009, 12:09 PM
Glenn Beck is a diversion, see this thread
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=210464

LOL at the irony. Your post was a diversion.

Stary Hickory
09-17-2009, 12:18 PM
Glenn Beck is great, he's got people asking all the right questions. I understand that the establishment, and that probably includes Time Magazine, do not like it because it threatens their stranglehold over Americans....but tough shit.

Dr.3D
09-17-2009, 12:25 PM
If Beck did not retrieve from going after next Obama czar on his list, his standing would improve :

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2320769&postcount=1



Yea.
I also never understood why so many people here pay attention to Rupert "Obama's a rock star" Murdoch owned Fox : -)

Oh for sure, we should hate Fox News for exposing some of the corruption our government is involved in. What was I thinking? :rolleyes:

Brian4Liberty
09-17-2009, 12:27 PM
Anyone notice how the John Birch Society keeps getting thrown into these articles?


the John Birch Society brooding over fluoride

Dr.3D
09-17-2009, 12:28 PM
Anyone notice how the John Birch Society keeps getting thrown into these articles?

Yeah, they hate them too. They expose too much corruption and TPTB can't stand that.

kahless
09-17-2009, 12:34 PM
Beck needs to denounce any leadership role at once. He should laugh off the very notion.
But if his ego will not allow that - if he so desires to be the "leader" the assault will be relentless.

I have heard Beck say on his TV show a number of times that is not about him or any one person. That people should not listen to him but do their own research before formulating an opinion.

AuH20
09-17-2009, 02:45 PM
Glenn Beck is great, he's got people asking all the right questions. I understand that the establishment, and that probably includes Time Magazine, do not like it because it threatens their stranglehold over Americans....but tough shit.


Everytime Glenn discusses the underpinnings of the Constitution or displays the monetary base chart the system vampires recoil in horror. He's like a bright light in a deep fog, even if he collects his check from Fox News. Beck has people talking about liberty again and the true function of government.

Cowlesy
09-17-2009, 02:57 PM
I have heard Beck say on his TV show a number of times that is not about him or any one person. That people should not listen to him but do their own research before formulating an opinion.

^^This.

catdd
09-17-2009, 03:27 PM
I have heard Beck say on his TV show a number of times that is not about him or any one person. That people should not listen to him but do their own research before formulating an opinion.

That's fine, but I've heard him come very close to stepping in the trap a couple of times. He's only human and I just hope he isn't entertaining any delusions of grandeur because they will be watching him like a hungry hawk. The neocons and the liberals.

raiha
09-17-2009, 04:42 PM
Glenn Beck is an oaf. If oafs are good for America only Americans can judge.

InterestedParticipant
09-17-2009, 05:42 PM
LOL at the irony. Your post was a diversion.
Why are there so many here who are afraid to leave their media Simulacrum? Have you learned nothing? Do you think the owners of these multinational media enterprises give a rats a$$ about you, your stupid little thoughts of liberty or self-determination. The mind boggles as I watch this thread devolve into a discussion that pretends any of this is real or matters at all.

Here, I'll let Howard Beale, in the movie Network, tell you the truth!

YouTube - The Grand Illusion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMtin1QCHHM)

I really think we need a "New Headlines" subforum so that those who don't wish to be exposed to this "goddamn propaganda force"