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ItsTime
09-16-2009, 02:07 PM
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/obama-backs-expiring-patriot-act-spy-provisions/


The Obama administration has told Congress it supports renewing three provisions of the Patriot Act due to expire at year’s end, measures making it easier for the government to spy within the United States.

These are the three provisions due to expire:

*A secret court, known as the FISA court, may grant “roving wiretaps” without the government identifying the target. Generally, the authorities must assert that the target is an agent of a foreign power and/or a suspected terrorist. The government said Tuesday that 22 such warrants — which allow the monitoring of any communication device — have been granted annually.

*The FISA court may grant warrants for “business records,” from banking to library to medical records. Generally, the government must assert that the records are relevant to foreign intelligence gathering and/or a terrorism investigation. The government said Tuesday that 220 of these warrants had been granted between 2004 and 2007. It said 2004 was the first year those powers were used.

*A so-called “lone wolf” provision, enacted in 2004, allows FISA court warrants for the electronic monitoring of an individual even without showing that the person is an agent of a foreign power or a suspected terrorist. The government said Tuesday it has never invoked that provision, but said it wants to keep the authority to do so.

The American Civil Liberties opposes renewing all three provisions, especially the lone wolf measure.

Michelle Richardson, the ACLU’s legislative counsel, said in a telephone interview, “The justification for FISA and these lower standards and letting it operate in secret was all about terrorist groups and foreign governments, that they posed a unique threat other than the normal criminal element. This lone wolf provision undercuts that justification.”

Mini-Me
09-16-2009, 02:25 PM
Wow, color me shocked. :rolleyes: Thankfully the ACLU is still fighting the Patriot Act, wiretapping, and torture battles, since the liberal base has conveniently forgotten about them.

Matt Collins
09-16-2009, 02:25 PM
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x93/sonicspikesalbum/Obama/OWcopy-small.jpg

KCIndy
09-16-2009, 04:01 PM
Is anyone really surprised??

heavenlyboy34
09-16-2009, 05:08 PM
When I saw this I enjoyed telling my democrat friends "I TOLD YOU SO!" They were none too pleased, but I was amused. :)

Matt Collins
09-16-2009, 05:12 PM
EFF.org: In Warrantless Wiretapping Case, Obama DOJ's New Arguments Are Worse Than Bush's

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04...orse-than-bush (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush)


Threat Level Privacy, Crime and Security Online (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel)
Obama Claims Immunity, As New Spy Case Takes Center Stage
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/07/jewel/ (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/07/jewel/)

http://www.eff.org/files/NSA_main.jpg

Acala
09-16-2009, 05:18 PM
Well, now that IS a change!

ItsTime
09-16-2009, 05:55 PM
I really dont even know what to say anymore.

Matt Collins
09-16-2009, 11:27 PM
YouTube - Obama legalising Warrantless Wiretapping & More! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg4uO6e8dWQ)

Aratus
09-17-2009, 12:16 PM
in WW1 we had the palmer raids.
in WW2 american citzens were rounded
up on the west coast, many who were japanese.

ItsTime
09-17-2009, 12:32 PM
YouTube - Obama legalising Warrantless Wiretapping & More! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg4uO6e8dWQ)

Racists.

Matt Collins
09-18-2009, 12:40 PM
YouTube - Obama set to extend the Patriot Act (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NSL4CAePWQ)

silverhawks
09-18-2009, 01:49 PM
This single event has completely changed the conversation that I'm having with my friends that support Obama, especially regarding universal health care; the question I find myself asking them now is:

"Do you think that a government that doesn't acknowledge the Bill of Rights cares how healthy or how sick you are, whether or not you have a roof over your head or have lost your job? How sensible is it in the long run to go to that same government and hand over control of your healthcare to them?"