Urgent: This MUST be stopped NOW! Forced vaccines and bracelets

[ItsTime]

Watch the video then read the article

YouTube - URGENT GET THIS OUT NOW ! RFID BRACELET ONCE YOU HAVE HAD THE US666 & EU666 VACCINATION (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB7OwPk5Z78)


READ THE ARTICLE! LOL

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/11/21/boston_launches_flu_shot_tracking/

:mad::mad::mad:

[Reason]

Who is this guy speaking?

What is this event that he is speaking at?

[ItsTime]

Who is this guy speaking?

What is this event that he is speaking at?

I dont know, but he pretty much predicted what was going to happen. Because its about to go down in Mass.

[zach]

I have a stronger feeling that this possibility will happen eventually.

[ItsTime]

I have a stronger feeling that this possibility will happen eventually.

Did you read the article it IS happening :mad:

[Sandman33]

I dont know, but he pretty much predicted what was going to happen. Because its about to go down in Mass.

Why?

Do you have any information about it?

[ItsTime]

Why?

Do you have any information about it?

No one read the article! lol

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/11/21/boston_launches_flu_shot_tracking/

Boston is testing bracelets for wide scale use.

[Bruno]

"only a limited amount of information would be gathered - all sitting behind an encrypted firewall.

"I have had people say, 'Oh, that's so big brother,' " said Laura Williams, EMS deputy chief of staff. "But in truth, the unique identifier is unique to the incident. It's not like you will go to the hospital, and they'll say, 'You're the one who got the flu vaccine at 10 o'clock yesterday at the Boston Public Health Commission.' "
Oh, now I feel better! :rolleyes:

[DapperDan]

As long as it is fashionable....

Seriously I would hope people make a huge outcry to make it hit big news. Or if it goes under the radar to dissent against it.

If that happened here in TX, I'd take that bracelet and pull an Office Space on it....or the ingrates that try to force it upon me.

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/03/office-space-printer.jpg

Disturbing.

[awake]

If it comes to this, I would take some vacation time in another state and wait for the injured to start making a big enough revolt.

[ItsTime]

"only a limited amount of information would be gathered - all sitting behind an encrypted firewall.

"I have had people say, 'Oh, that's so big brother,' " said Laura Williams, EMS deputy chief of staff. "But in truth, the unique identifier is unique to the incident. It's not like you will go to the hospital, and they'll say, 'You're the one who got the flu vaccine at 10 o'clock yesterday at the Boston Public Health Commission.' "
Oh, now I feel better! :rolleyes:

So what WILL it say if it doesnt say the time and place and type of shot you got? What good is it? AND how do we know what it REALLY says if its ENCRYPTED?

[DapperDan]

Tracking device, that's all.

[ItsTime]

Tracking device, that's all.

I think its a little more than that.

[Bruno]

Tracking device, that's all.

hopefully you just forgot to add one of these :rolleyes:

;)

[MsDoodahs]

Texans: My rep is Lois Kolkhorst, she is the Chair of the Public Health Committee in the Texas House. I contacted her top aid for Public Health issues and asked about forced vaccines and bracelet identifiers.

At this time, there are no plans for forced vaccinations or the use of bracelet identification mechanisms in the State ot Texas.

:)

[DapperDan]

That's good to hear! :)

[JoshLowry]

Who is this guy speaking?

What is this event that he is speaking at?

I'm guessing since they are referring to an article and it is linked that it would be Stephen Smith who is on the Boston.com staff.

[devil21]

Note the date of the article. That was nearly a year ago! They've been quietly prepping for this stuff in the background while everyone is tangled up in other distractions. Most of us have known about it but it sure does seem to become more real by the day.

ETA: I wonder if the GPS painting of front doors by the Census Bureau has anything to do with this?

[bj72]

Texans: My rep is Lois Kolkhorst, she is the Chair of the Public Health Committee in the Texas House. I contacted her top aid for Public Health issues and asked about forced vaccines and bracelet identifiers.

At this time, there are no plans for forced vaccinations or the use of bracelet identification mechanisms in the State ot Texas.

:)

Um, based off TX not so distant past, I wouldn't trust the rep. First, she said "at this time, there are no plans"....classic. If an "epidemic" is called by the UN or powers that be in DC then they could easily say the plans have changed...based off "need", etc TX has decided to implement such a policy. I would press them on this and strike now while you still can. I'd raise awareness in your community and push to have them denounce other states who are squashing freedoms with forced vaccine proposals. Utilize the "9/12" awakening in TX and tap into it to shine light on this subject. MA's proposal won't be the last. Other states will likely follow suit. It would be nice if there were a few states that stood ground against these unconstitutional proposals.

Second, TX does not have a good track record in the area of vaccines. Remember the Gov. wanting to force all young girls to be vaccinated with the HPV vaccine? How about when the state of TX raided the FLDS ranch? What was one of the first things they did? They vaccinated all the children against their and their parents will, despite protests. Now, I'm not gonna defend FLDS choices in lifestyle, as I personally do not care for it, but that is between them and G-d. But, if young girls were really being compromised, the state certainly didn't need to vaccinate all the children while the courts were still figuring everything out. They rushed to vaccinate, and once it was done, there is no real recourse. You can't undo it. Perhaps compensation, or "winning" a case to prove the state was wrong after the fact, but it doesn't undo the fact the children were forcibly jabbed with a needle full of chemicals not natural to the body against their will.

My dh is looking at jobs for next year. TX is on the list, and while there is much to like about TX (2nd amendment fought for there, home education laws are in favor of freedom, no state income tax, etc), there are many things that give us pause. Namely the vaccine issue and also the fact that TX was one of the states that not only didn't stand up to the Real ID fight, but also seemed on board with Real ID, almost anxious to put it into play. I'm sure that is due to border woes, and understand that well having lived in TX, AZ and CA, but those problems do not justify a policy such as Real ID, or national ID, or anything akin to it. Unfortunately, I'd doubt based off this that TX legislature would have a problem with RFID bracelets to track vaccine compliance.

Now is a good time to bring up the issue since so many are awakening to individual freedoms being trounced on by the government. If you simply sit back thinking you are fine in TX based off what your Rep Kolkhorst said, you will likely find down the road, whether it be this year or several years from now with some new crisis, that you have been duped and the TX government has every intention on implementing this if it suits their need. Get them to denounce forced vaccinations, and MA actions, on record before it is too late. Perhaps if they take a stand, a few more brave states will follow suit.

[MsDoodahs]

I have confidence in Rep. Kolkhorst. She is not perfect, but she is actually quite good in terms of her positions that I've looked into. VERY staunch opponent of TTC ... and called Perry a globalist - to his face. :)

[Vessol]

Now only if they made the bracelet like those in Battle Royale, that'd be bad-ass.

[bj72]

Note the date of the article. That was nearly a year ago! They've been quietly prepping for this stuff in the background while everyone is tangled up in other distractions. Most of us have known about it but it sure does seem to become more real by the day.

ETA: I wonder if the GPS painting of front doors by the Census Bureau has anything to do with this?

devil...I wondered the exact same thing to my dh last night. As mentioned before, it might not be this year, or for Swine Flu, but if it isn't used in the short term, there is always a chance it could be abused in the long term.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if it wasn't utilized until people lose focus, stop watching/protesting, and go back to focusing more only on their daily lives. People have short memories when it comes to this kinda thing. It only takes a little appeasement for them to think all is well again.

[bj72]

I have confidence in Rep. Kolkhorst. She is not perfect, but she is actually quite good in terms of her positions that I've looked into. VERY staunch opponent of TTC ... and called Perry a globalist - to his face. :)

I can forgive not perfect, no one is perfect. Calling Perry a globalist to his face, lol, awesome :D

Then perhaps you could garner support for her to lead the charge to fight against TX going down the same path as MA. Maybe calling out TX past mistakes in this area and taking a stand to set the path in upholding the Constitution in this area.

[devil21]

bj72,
Damn, your husband is a lucky man. I wish I could find a woman that doesn't think this type of discussion is just "crazy talk".

I can see these bracelets turning very easily into house arrest monitoring and/or martial law monitoring for the masses. Current house arrest ankle bracelets for criminals already use GPS. If the front door of a home is mapped by GPS and fed into a computer then it's not difficult for that info to then be crosslinked to the bracelet ID and an alert sent if the bracelet passes the front door location when it's not supposed to. I think that's pretty much how the current house arrest systems work. Just expand it to a national scale and as long as you can get the masses to take "the mark of the beast" (whatever it may be) then there's your control mechanism.

Tie in the recent pleas by the gov't to "upgrade" our failing satellite infrastructure and it becomes an even more likely scenario.

[JeNNiF00F00]

Can someone please paste the article in here? I cannot read it for some reason. I think the website is bogged down or something. Thanks!

[Dr.3D]

Can someone please paste the article in here? I cannot read it for some reason. I think the website is bogged down or something. Thanks!

Here ya go JeNNiF00F00.




Boston launches flu shot tracking
City to pinpoint areas of low rates of vaccination
By Stephen Smith
Globe Staff / November 21, 2008

Using technology originally developed for mass disasters, Boston disease trackers are embarking on a novel experiment - one of the first in the country - aimed at eventually creating a citywide registry of everyone who has had a flu vaccination.

The resulting vaccination map would allow swift intervention in neighborhoods left vulnerable to the fast-moving respiratory illness.

The trial starts this afternoon, when several hundred people are expected to queue up for immunizations at the headquarters of the Boston Public Health Commission. Each of them will get a bracelet printed with a unique identifier code. Information about the vaccine's recipients, and the shot, will be entered into handheld devices similar to those used by delivery truck drivers.

Infectious disease specialists in Boston and elsewhere predicted that the registry approach could prove even more useful if something more sinister strikes: a bioterrorism attack or the long-feared arrival of a global flu epidemic. In such crises, the registry could be used to track who received a special vaccine or antidote to a deadly germ.

"Anything you can do to better pinpoint who's vaccinated and who's not, that's absolutely vital," said Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research & Policy at the University of Minnesota. "I wish more cities were doing this kind of thing."

Boston is believed to be the first city to embrace this particular approach to tracking vaccinations against the seasonal flu, estimated to kill 36,000 people each year in the United States, principally the elderly.

But when Boston bought the monitoring system from a Milwaukee company in 2006, emergency authorities had a far different use in mind: tracking people injured in big fires, plane crashes, or other disasters.

"When there's a large catastrophic event, people end up in a variety of healthcare facilities," said Dr. Anita Barry, Boston's director of communicable disease control. "Of course, their family members and loved ones are trying to find out where they are and how they're doing."

To see how well the system would work, emergency crews tested it at the Boston Marathon and the Fourth of July extravaganza on the Esplanade. The trial proved successful.

"If we can make it work in the Boston Marathon medical tent, then you have to think about making it so that it can work in other environments as well - whether it's a community clinic or a doctor's office or a flu shot clinic," said Rich Serino, chief of Boston Emergency Medical Services. Thus, the idea to use the registry as a flu vaccine tracker was born.

Every autumn in medical offices across the country, flu vaccine floods in. The perishable medical product must be delivered to millions in a matter of months. Keeping track of that cache of vaccine - and which patients are getting it - is a daunting proposition.

In some medical offices, the information is entered into electronic medical records. At Boston's health department, nurses fill out paper forms.

But there's never been any way to systematically monitor whether, for example, Dorchester has lower vaccination rates than the North End.

"When you're working in one clinic, you don't have a good sense of that," said Dr. Alfred DeMaria, top disease doctor at the Massachusetts Department of Public Health. "But if you're tracking multiple clinics in real time, you can see where the uptake is better and where it's less, and then focus on outreach."

Today's experiment, which does not require any additional direct spending, is a first step toward that.

When people arrive for their shots, they will get an ID bracelet with a barcode. Next, basic information - name, age, gender, address - will be entered into the patient tracking database. There will be electronic records, too, of who gave the vaccine and whether it was injected into the right arm or the left, and time-stamped for that day.

The resulting trove of data could be used to figure out why some patients had to wait longer than others to be vaccinated. "When all is said and done," said Jun Davantes, director of product management at EMSystems, the company that makes the technology, "Boston will be able to identify where there are certain bottlenecks in the process and hopefully improve it the next time around."

Ultimately, city health authorities said, they envision creating a network across the city that would allow public and private providers of flu shots to add data to a registry.

But acknowledging patients' privacy concerns, officials promised that if a citywide system were implemented, only a limited amount of information would be gathered - all sitting behind an encrypted firewall.

"I have had people say, 'Oh, that's so big brother,' " said Laura Williams, EMS deputy chief of staff. "But in truth, the unique identifier is unique to the incident. It's not like you will go to the hospital, and they'll say, 'You're the one who got the flu vaccine at 10 o'clock yesterday at the Boston Public Health Commission.' "

[devil21]

Here ya go.



Using technology originally developed for mass disasters, Boston disease trackers are embarking on a novel experiment - one of the first in the country - aimed at eventually creating a citywide registry of everyone who has had a flu vaccination.

The resulting vaccination map would allow swift intervention in neighborhoods left vulnerable to the fast-moving respiratory illness.

The trial starts this afternoon, when several hundred people are expected to queue up for immunizations at the headquarters of the Boston Public Health Commission. Each of them will get a bracelet printed with a unique identifier code. Information about the vaccine's recipients, and the shot, will be entered into handheld devices similar to those used by delivery truck drivers.

Infectious disease specialists in Boston and elsewhere predicted that the registry approach could prove even more useful if something more sinister strikes: a bioterrorism attack or the long-feared arrival of a global flu epidemic. In such crises, the registry could be used to track who received a special vaccine or antidote to a deadly germ.

"Anything you can do to better pinpoint who's vaccinated and who's not, that's absolutely vital," said Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research & Policy at the University of Minnesota. "I wish more cities were doing this kind of thing."

Boston is believed to be the first city to embrace this particular approach to tracking vaccinations against the seasonal flu, estimated to kill 36,000 people each year in the United States, principally the elderly.

But when Boston bought the monitoring system from a Milwaukee company in 2006, emergency authorities had a far different use in mind: tracking people injured in big fires, plane crashes, or other disasters.

"When there's a large catastrophic event, people end up in a variety of healthcare facilities," said Dr. Anita Barry, Boston's director of communicable disease control. "Of course, their family members and loved ones are trying to find out where they are and how they're doing."

To see how well the system would work, emergency crews tested it at the Boston Marathon and the Fourth of July extravaganza on the Esplanade. The trial proved successful.

"If we can make it work in the Boston Marathon medical tent, then you have to think about making it so that it can work in other environments as well - whether it's a community clinic or a doctor's office or a flu shot clinic," said Rich Serino, chief of Boston Emergency Medical Services. Thus, the idea to use the registry as a flu vaccine tracker was born.

Every autumn in medical offices across the country, flu vaccine floods in. The perishable medical product must be delivered to millions in a matter of months.
Keeping track of that cache of vaccine - and which patients are getting it - is a daunting proposition.

In some medical offices, the information is entered into electronic medical records. At Boston's health department, nurses fill out paper forms.

But there's never been any way to systematically monitor whether, for example, Dorchester has lower vaccination rates than the North End.

"When you're working in one clinic, you don't have a good sense of that," said Dr. Alfred DeMaria, top disease doctor at the Massachusetts Department of Public Health. "But if you're tracking multiple clinics in real time, you can see where the uptake is better and where it's less, and then focus on outreach."

Today's experiment, which does not require any additional direct spending, is a first step toward that.

When people arrive for their shots, they will get an ID bracelet with a barcode. Next, basic information - name, age, gender, address - will be entered into the patient tracking database. There will be electronic records, too, of who gave the vaccine and whether it was injected into the right arm or the left, and time-stamped for that day.

The resulting trove of data could be used to figure out why some patients had to wait longer than others to be vaccinated. "When all is said and done," said Jun Davantes, director of product management at EMSystems, the company that makes the technology, "Boston will be able to identify where there are certain bottlenecks in the process and hopefully improve it the next time around."

Ultimately, city health authorities said, they envision creating a network across the city that would allow public and private providers of flu shots to add data to a registry.

But acknowledging patients' privacy concerns, officials promised that if a citywide system were implemented, only a limited amount of information would be gathered - all sitting behind an encrypted firewall.

"I have had people say, 'Oh, that's so big brother,' " said Laura Williams, EMS deputy chief of staff. "But in truth, the unique identifier is unique to the incident. It's not like you will go to the hospital, and they'll say, 'You're the one who got the flu vaccine at 10 o'clock yesterday at the Boston Public Health Commission.' "

Stephen Smith can be reached at stsmithATglobe.c0m.

This is getting interesting since this thread with YT vid was posted:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=210537

Either there are starting to be legit military members speaking out against these plans OR they are all restating the same "rumors". EDIT: Take that video with a grain of salt. The "device" shown is for radio controlled hobby model airplanes.

[Sandman33]

This is wrong on SO many levels...

[Deborah K]

Texans: My rep is Lois Kolkhorst, she is the Chair of the Public Health Committee in the Texas House. I contacted her top aid for Public Health issues and asked about forced vaccines and bracelet identifiers.

At this time, there are no plans for forced vaccinations or the use of bracelet identification mechanisms in the State ot Texas.

:)

I recommend EVERYONE do what MsDoodahs did! Call your public health chair and ask the question. Let's compile a list and take it from there. I plan to send the article out far and wide. Please do the same:

YouTube - Vice Pres Elect Biden States Chip Implants will Be Ruled On (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0_chJqTsoo)

[Pericles]

An alternative view of the situation suggests a market opportunity for fake bracelets.

[Deborah K]

An alternative view of the situation suggests a market opportunity for fake bracelets.

That can't be scanned....so what good would they be? :confused:

[Pericles]

That can't be scanned....so what good would they be? :confused:

Tyrannies expect compliance or defiance and they know what to do in those cases. They can't deal with fake compliance - it consumes too much resource to figure out who is doing what they are "supposed" to do, and who isn't.

A good fake will have a chip that has been make to "spook" the real deal. Or, there might be a liberty loving doctor in town that shoots the vaccine in the sink and gives you a real bracelet, or a doctor being watched has already replaced the vaccine with saline solution, or let your imagine go on ways to defeat the program while appearing to comply.

Then, once TPTB discover the program has been compromised, they have to expend more resources to try to force compliance which just annoys more citizens.... causing TPTB to become less credible.

Good covert operations put your opponents in awkward positions.

Every program is a opportunity for a covert op and / or AGITPROP.

[Deborah K]

Tyrannies expect compliance or defiance and they know what to do in those cases. They can't deal with fake compliance - it consumes too much resource to figure out who is doing what they are "supposed" to do, and who isn't.

A good fake will have a chip that has been make to "spook" the real deal. Or, there might be a liberty loving doctor in town that shoots the vaccine in the sink and gives you a real bracelet, or a doctor being watched has already replaced the vaccine with saline solution, or let your imagine go on ways to defeat the program while appearing to comply.

Then, once TPTB discover the program has been compromised, they have to expend more resources to try to force compliance which just annoys more citizens.... causing TPTB to become less credible.

Good covert operations put your opponents in awkward positions.

Every program is a opportunity for a covert op and / or AGITPROP.

oh damn....this could work.....

[s35wf]

Tyrannies expect compliance or defiance and they know what to do in those cases. They can't deal with fake compliance - it consumes too much resource to figure out who is doing what they are "supposed" to do, and who isn't.

A good fake will have a chip that has been make to "spook" the real deal. Or, there might be a liberty loving doctor in town that shoots the vaccine in the sink and gives you a real bracelet, or a doctor being watched has already replaced the vaccine with saline solution, or let your imagine go on ways to defeat the program while appearing to comply.

Then, once TPTB discover the program has been compromised, they have to expend more resources to try to force compliance which just annoys more citizens.... causing TPTB to become less credible.

Good covert operations put your opponents in awkward positions.

Every program is a opportunity for a covert op and / or AGITPROP.

While a "Fake" bracelet might be good for some to "think" you have already had your shot; IT WILL NOT HELP the scanning technology! Why cuz I have some experience in this dept and it is next to impossible to break RFID (radio frequency identification device) because of the rolling code technology which is used.

[Pericles]

While a "Fake" bracelet might be good for some to "think" you have already had your shot; IT WILL NOT HELP the scanning technology! Why cuz I have some experience in this dept and it is next to impossible to break RFID (radio frequency identification device) because of the rolling code technology which is used.

The next logical move is to attack the scanner and its software - and even if not successful, make your opponent think you can compromise the system. "Unbreakable" systems are really expensive, and if a state in a bad budget situation has to spend even more money on this .....

In fact, putting the work out now that there are hackers working on it - maybe even some employees of the companies supplying the technology for all I know.

[Bern]

So the article is more or less a year old. Can anyone in the Boston area confirm or deny whether these bracelets were ever distributed?

The article does not explicitly indicate whether the bracelets contain an RFID chip (which can be tracked) or just a barcode imprint (which must be scanned up close and personal). If it's the latter, they are more or less medic alert bracelets.

[s35wf]

In fact, putting the work out now that there are hackers working on it - maybe even some employees of the companies supplying the technology for all I know.

There have been "hackers" working on breaking "rolling code technology" since it became available in the auto industry for over a decade. each system is proprietiery and next to impossible to break! There are literally millions/billions of possible frequencies/codes. Look into Chrysler DART, Ford NGS and GM transponders which is where this technology started a decade ago! I know I was in that industry a decade ago!


PS this technology is What put me out of business in that industry years ago. :(

[Deborah K]

So the article is more or less a year old. Can anyone in the Boston area confirm or deny whether these bracelets were ever distributed?

The article does not explicitly indicate whether the bracelets contain an RFID chip (which can be tracked) or just a barcode imprint (which must be scanned up close and personal). If it's the latter, they are more or less medic alert bracelets.

I'd like to hear from Boston people on this too. Regardless of how old the article is, people should be on the look-out for this kind of thing happening. Sometimes they introduce something, and the wait for the public to adjust before they implement it.

[Pericles]

There have been "hackers" working on breaking "rolling code technology" since it became available in the auto industry for over a decade. each system is proprietiery and next to impossible to break! There are literally millions/billions of possible frequencies/codes. Look into Chrysler DART, Ford NGS and GM transponders which is where this technology started a decade ago! I know I was in that industry a decade ago!


PS this technology is What put me out of business in that industry years ago. :(

This technology requires both transmitter and receiver? That is different from reading a bar code. If we are talking rolling code transmitter type - how is one receiver going to properly ID the millions of transmitters? And that would be a requirement for an "unbreakable" system of this type. If you are talking the similar sort of reader for inventory control - different issue and that is what my assumption is based upon.

"Each of them will get a bracelet printed with a unique identifier code. Information about the vaccine's recipients, and the shot, will be entered into handheld devices similar to those used by delivery truck drivers."

[pcosmar]

If you "fake" the bracelets or the real ID chips the next round will be the Tattoo.
It is coming.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.technovelgy.com/graphics/content07/rfid-ear-tag.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp%3FNewsNum%3D906&usg=__BuDXP5hv-6EKz7mudfFF90aVFX4=&h=342&w=350&sz=28&hl=en&start=25&um=1&tbnid=K9UZPcavai-faM:&tbnh=117&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcattle%2Btags%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%2 6safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20%26um%3D1

The Somark ID System creates a "bio-compatible ink tattoo with chipless RFID functionality." The RFID ink tattoo does not require line of sight to be read, as is the case with other RFID devices (making them better than a barcode for some applications).


I can't tell you how much I appreciate this new technology. I don't know about you, but it's really annoying when your ear tag falls off, and you have to go back to Homeland Security to get another one. Colored RFID tattoos can be done attractively, as well; ear tags are frankly kind of dorky-looking. Even better, now we can all be tagged invisibly, which should take care of all the liberal belly-aching about having a permanent national ID number for everyone. (This paragraph brought to you by the Technovelgy Tinfoil Hat division.)

http://www.rfidnews.org/2008/02/11/somarks-rfid-based-animal-id-system-closer-to-completion
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/18/rfid-tattoos-for-tracking-cows-and-people/

[Mr. Smith]

I wonder how vaccinators will attempt to justify giving the vaccine to someone who has already experienced the H1N1 virus and have developed natural immunity.

A fellow employee was diagnosed with H1N1 yesterday and it got me thinking. Of course, I realize they may not try to justify it at all.

[Original_Intent]

Likely they will just say that the vaccine won't hurt anyone that has already had it and they are giving it to everyone just to be on the safe side. Or similar.

[s35wf]

This technology requires both transmitter and receiver? That is different from reading a bar code. If we are talking rolling code transmitter type - how is one receiver going to properly ID the millions of transmitters? And that would be a requirement for an "unbreakable" system of this type. If you are talking the similar sort of reader for inventory control - different issue and that is what my assumption is based upon.


i believe the applied digital solutions/verichip company's little grain of rice chip will work very similar to GM's onstar system which can read where you are, whats happening to you etc.... from one satellite from space! different from reading barcodes with a scanner such as for inventory purposes. look into black boxes in veichles type technology.

[kahless]

Here in New York state:

Health workers resist shots
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/sep/16/health-workers-resist-shots/


"New York, the first state to be hard-hit by swine flu, is requiring all health workers to get immunized against both types of flu. She objects to New York’s new law, saying it infringes on free-choice rights. “It’s crossing the line, and I’m opposed to that.”

Hospital workers “are at risk for being exposed to many, many diseases,” she said. “Imagine if we had to take a vaccine for everything that comes in the door.”

Morales worries she might lose her job if she refuses — it will be up to individual clinics and health centers to decide how to enforce the law. She has until Nov. 30 to get her shots. "

[bj72]

Likely they will just say that the vaccine won't hurt anyone that has already had it and they are giving it to everyone just to be on the safe side. Or similar.

I had Fox news on the background today for a bit while doing stuff around the house. They started to talk about the flu vaccine, so I stopped to listen a bit. They basically asked this same question, and said that it is too burdensome to test everyone, and just because someone has had symptoms, it could've been something else, so they are still urging people to take it....or something like that. :(

[Deborah K]

I had Fox news on the background today for a bit while doing stuff around the house. They started to talk about the flu vaccine, so I stopped to listen a bit. They basically asked this same question, and said that it is too burdensome to test everyone, and just because someone has had symptoms, it could've been something else, so they are still urging people to take it....or something like that. :(

I heard Cavuto a few weeks back expressing serious doubts about vaccinating his kids. He had an exchange with a guest doctor and he seemed very incredulous.

[awake]

Remember folks, doctors like economists are never wrong.

[cypherfusion]

Got this (http://sharebee.com/1fa34fa0) from a trusted source. They are screen shots from the database program. Page 1 is very interesting, it seems they will be able to scan in your drivers license when they assign you your bracelet to tie it into the DMV database. Bar codes also appear to be simple alpha numeric so forging them should be trivial.

[ItsTime]

Got this (http://sharebee.com/1fa34fa0) from a trusted source. They are screen shots from the database program. Page 1 is very interesting, it seems they will be able to scan in your drivers license when they assign you your bracelet to tie it into the DMV database. Bar codes also appear to be simple alpha numeric so forging them should be trivial.

upload to a better site, pop ups and full page ads suck and I didnt see anything lol

[Vessol]

Got this (http://sharebee.com/1fa34fa0) from a trusted source. They are screen shots from the database program. Page 1 is very interesting, it seems they will be able to scan in your drivers license when they assign you your bracelet to tie it into the DMV database. Bar codes also appear to be simple alpha numeric so forging them should be trivial.

Can you link any screen shots?

[cypherfusion]

upload to a better site, pop ups and full page ads suck and I didnt see anything lol

Sorry, I have adblock, didn't realize it was so bad.

Try this (http://www.scribd.com/full/19987888?access_key=key-57madtggyr3aiggst31).

[Patriot123]

Where's the event? Who's the guy speaking? When was this filmed?

He mentions "New World Order," he makes wild remarks that are just simply hard to swallow, and he seems to exagerate. I don't believe a word of this.

EDIT: ...the article is from November of 2008. This is a year old.

Way to post propaganda.

[devil21]

Sorry, I have adblock, didn't realize it was so bad.

Try this (http://www.scribd.com/full/19987888?access_key=key-57madtggyr3aiggst31).

That looks like a basic incident tracking system. I helped develop one after 9/11. Need more.

[cypherfusion]

That looks like a basic incident tracking system. I helped develop one after 9/11. Need more.

That's all I was able to get, the ID numbers are what is printed on the bar codes. I thought the DL scanning was of interest. I agree that it does not appear too nefarious.

[Pauls' Revere]

An alternative view of the situation suggests a market opportunity for fake bracelets.

Absolutely, a fake RFID to wear with bogus info much like a fake I.D. card or drivers license is.