Now Jimmy Carter says people who disagree with Obama are Racist

[FrankRep]

Carter Claims There Is "Racist" Tone Against Obama

Real Clear Politics
September 15, 2009

Video:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/15/carter_claims_there_is_racist_tone_against_obama.h tml

[catdd]

Well he is in the top 5 worst presidents this country ever had so I never pay much attention to him.

[Bruno]

There is no dissent of Obama that will not be considered racist.

[zach]

"Potential for Racism" will be the new reason for arrest.

[agitator]

"obamanable circumstance"

HAHA


Isn't Carter dead yet?

[catdd]

"Potential for Racism" will be the new reason for arrest.

And this is how they will point the racists out to be arrested...

YouTube - Podcasting with Donald Sutherland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prT1E_S__jM&feature=player_embedded)

[Epic]

I thought Obama ushered in a new post-racial era?

Considering the man was only elected cause he was black (he would have had no chance vs. hillary), his supporters don't really have license to say that racism has worked to the detriment of Obama.

[FrankRep]

Reminds me of this stupid Time cover.

http://www.theawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/newsweekcoverbabyracist.jpg

[awake]

Sorry, not even the race card can protect him from the consequences of horrid socialist policies. Try again.

[MsDoodahs]

Why do I get the feeling that the powers that be really REALLY want a "race war" to break out?

[JK/SEA]

Sooo...Carter admits it was racists who voted for the big O....

[Bruno]

Why do I get the feeling that the powers that be really REALLY want a "race war" to break out?

Spidey senses tingling? Maybe then they would have a good reason to use the U.S. troops that have been stationed here to combat civil unrest.

[SelfTaught]

With the establishment lashing out against racism in every possible way, racism is going to become the new cool trend.

[FrankRep]

Why do I get the feeling that the powers that be really REALLY want a "race war" to break out?
How else will they be able to declare Martial Law?

;)

[ItsTime]

Why do I get the feeling that the powers that be really REALLY want a "race war" to break out?

Because that is one of the pillars isnt it? But I did not think the time was right. They needed to disarm the public first. Although they might want it really bloody. :eek:

[ShowMeLiberty]

Why do I get the feeling that the powers that be really REALLY want a "race war" to break out?

I know that feeling.

It makes me crazy but it's sooooo hard not to let these people push my buttons when they label everything but all-out worship of Obama as racism. It really does make me angry - moreso than just about anything else they could say because it feels like a personal attack on my character; one that isn't the least bit true but is effective just for being made.

[MsDoodahs]

Because that is one of the pillars isnt it? But I did not think the time was right. They needed to disarm the public first. Although they might want it really bloody. :eek:

:eek:

Okay, stop it, you guys.

[awake]

Certain words and terms are used as weapons - both offensive and defensive. The terms; Anti-Semite, Racist, Discrimination, Holocaust Denier, Global Warming Denier, are but a few that come to mind, specifically loaded to silence opposition upon use; regardless of whether the application was warranted. All the majority of the people hear are the MSM talking heads telling the them how to interpret, saving them from the arduous task of actually thinking...

The strategy truly is, "Define or be defined".

[InterestedParticipant]

Now Jimmy Carter says people who disagree with Obama are Racist
The morning after the "you lie" comment I stated that this is exactly where they were taking us with this Wilson thing when I posted the Wilscon 'You Lie' Heckle was Pre Arranged thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2310224).


So more information about the staged event comes to light today as the media reveals its purpose. Congressman Wilson was queued to shout exactly when Obama said that people were lying that the bill would give free care to undocumented immigrants (they're just called immigrants now instead of illegal aliens).

Today, the media is telling us that Wilson ONLY had a problem with this specific issue, namely, that the bill would give free healthcare to mexicans. So, Wilson is now not only being painted as one of the Townhall crowd, he is also being painted as a racist. So anybody that says Obama is lying is a racist... that the result of this.

This is exactly what they were doing with the Townhall events that were posted on Youtube, they were attempting to incite racial hatred so as to divide the public. This is just an extension of that same game.

Hence, the more information that is forthcoming, the more convinced I am that this entire event was planned and staged.

[awake]

The morning after the "you lie" comment I stated that this is exactly where they were taking us with this Wilson thing when I posted the Wilscon 'You Lie' Heckle was Pre Arranged thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2310224).


I think you hit it...

[Dr.3D]

It does seem they would like to pit one race against the other. Could it be they would like to have one race wipe out the other? Sort of a genocide by The People?

[ItsTime]

They use your own bigotries against us WE MUST STOP IT. All you f-cking racists get your heads out of your ass and realize the government is about to play you like a fool.

[FrankRep]

It does seem they would like to pit one race against the other. Could it be they would like to have one race wipe out the other? Sort of a genocide by The People?
They could use the opportunity to declare Martial Law.

[awake]

The good sign about all of this ; They are that desperate. It truly means that they are loosing support at a breakneck speed.

[ShowMeLiberty]

Certain words and terms are used as weapons - both offensive and defensive. The terms; Anti-Semite, Racist, Discrimination, Holocaust Denier, Global Warming Denier, are but a few that come to mind, specifically loaded to silence opposition upon use; regardless of whether the application was warranted. All the majority of the people hear are the MSM talking heads telling the them how to interpret, saving them from the arduous task of actually thinking...

The strategy truly is, "Define or be defined".

So do you think all the horrible stuff about ACORN coming out is helpful to us, in light of what you said here? Does it work as way to re-define at least the Democrat wing of the Republicrats?

[Dr.3D]

They could use the opportunity to declare Martial Law.

They could wait to declare Martial Law till after there was a ton of bloodshed. This would make their Martial Law much easier.

[MsDoodahs]

It does seem they would like to pit one race against the other. Could it be they would like to have one race wipe out the other? Sort of a genocide by The People?

Yikes.

Which race do TPTB think would win?

[Dr.3D]

Yikes.

Which race do TPTB think would win?

Use your imagination and think about which race they would like to have win.

[jake]

the MSM racebaiting will backfire on them. Fox News Radio is doing a good job on the issue, pointing out how insane it is but I wish they would not give it any coverage at all.

[DapperDan]

Race war, civil war, revolutionary war all in one basket! interesting times...

[InterestedParticipant]

I think you hit it...
I got a lot of flack for that post. But I'm hopeful that people will start to see these events as setups, and begin to openly discuss how we are being setup at the time of the event. Even if we don't call 'em correctly, just being on the look out for this kind of manipulation can protect us from it.

[FrankRep]

Race war, civil war, revolutionary war all in one basket! interesting times...
On top of that: Swine flu scare and economic crisis.

[catdd]

The plot thickens.

[Dr.3D]

On top of that: Swine flu scare and economic crisis.

Kinda reminds ya of a giant puss filled pimple just waiting to be squeezed doesn't it?

[InterestedParticipant]

Race war, civil war, revolutionary war all in one basket! interesting times...
On top of that: Swine flu scare and economic crisis.

And all of these things you mention are ALL manufactured.

[Dr.3D]

And all of these things you mention are ALL manufactured.

So is the outcome.

[FrankRep]

And all of these things you mention are ALL manufactured.
No doubt. I agree.

[ShowMeLiberty]

Yikes.

Which race do TPTB think would win?

Maybe it doesn't matter. Remember that top secret meeting of the richest people in the US (the world?) about solving all the world's problems not so long ago? I remember it leaked out (?) that their main conclusion was that there are just too many people in the world.

[DapperDan]

Sounds futile if it's all manufactured. :(

[DapperDan]

Maybe it doesn't matter. Remember that top secret meeting of the richest people in the US (the world?) about solving all the world's problems not so long ago? I remember it leaked out (?) that their main conclusion was that there are just too many people in the world.

They should start first to set an example.

[Objectivist]

Jimmy WHO?
YouTube - Jimmie Walker Dyn-O-Mite! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DG-pNt5fus)

YOu mean the Jimmy who just got the ringing endorsement from OBL? OBL thinks Jimmy wrote a good book.

[awake]

Maybe it doesn't matter. Remember that top secret meeting of the richest people in the US (the world?) about solving all the world's problems not so long ago? I remember it leaked out (?) that their main conclusion was that there are just too many people in the world.


It's funny , those who believe in omnipotent government say there are too many people on the planet. The people say there is too much government wanting to control every aspect of life. I wonder who is right.

[Zippyjuan]

Looks like Gerald Celente agrees with Carter. See video in this thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=210237
Check about 5:00 mark.

[ShowMeLiberty]

Looks like Gerald Celente agrees with Carter. See video in this thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=210237
Check about 5:00 mark.

Not exactly.

Celente says there is an "element" of racism among the far-right anti-Obama people (as opposed to the far-left group he also mentioned).

Carter said the “overwhelming” portion of animosity towards Obama is racist.

Celente is being honest. Carter is exaggerating, to put it politely, for reasons we do not yet know.

[apropos]

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/8/6/6/866eeb53c02628ea7bcb893406d351b0.jpg

[Zippyjuan]

Carter's words (hand transcribed from the video by myself)

An overwhelming portion of the intensly demonstrated animosity towards Barak Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man- that he is an African American.

The "intensly demonstrated animosity" as I take it, means those with the strongest dislike of the president, not the average person who disagrees with him. The group which Celente mentions are the ones who have the most intense dislike of Obama. I can see how some may interpret what he says differently. But he is not saying that disagreeing with the President is being racist.

[InterestedParticipant]

Looks like Gerald Celente agrees with Carter. See video in this thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=210237
Check about 5:00 mark.
It's the authorized meme right now for all the vector leaders.... create racial division where there is none.

[Pepsi]

Soon whites well be the minority and well those hate crime laws protect them? I don't think so.

[BlackTerrel]

Certain words and terms are used as weapons - both offensive and defensive. The terms; Anti-Semite, Racist, Discrimination, Holocaust Denier, Global Warming Denier, are but a few that come to mind, specifically loaded to silence opposition upon use; regardless of whether the application was warranted. All the majority of the people hear are the MSM talking heads telling the them how to interpret, saving them from the arduous task of actually thinking...

I've never liked Carter. That said there are certainly racists who take advantage of the anger against Obama to pile on. It's a minority, but it's there.

[Fozz]

Jimmy WHO?

YOu mean the Jimmy who just got the ringing endorsement from OBL? OBL thinks Jimmy wrote a good book.

Carter's book about Israeli apartheid is actually a very good book.

[Stary Hickory]

The good sign about all of this ; They are that desperate. It truly means that they are loosing support at a breakneck speed.

I agree here, by calling anyone racist who refuses to bow down and be steamrolled they are really bringing a lot of attention to how bankrupt they are of legitmate moral and logical arguments for what they want.

When the best they can do is point and call you a racist it does show how far they have sunk. It's about our rights and freedoms, race has absolutely nothing to do with it.

[0zzy]

I thought Carter was getting better :(.

[BlackTerrel]

Carter's book about Israeli apartheid is actually a very good book.

Yeah it wasn't too long ago he was being praised on here for going after Israel.

Basically my take away is that if he accuses Israelis of racism he's good, but if he accuses white Americans of racism he's bad.

At least I've been consistent. I disagree with him on both and think he's a senile old jackass who's trying to cling to anything as his "legacy".

[revolutionary8]

Yeah it wasn't too long ago he was being praised on here for going after Israel.

Basically my take away is that if he accuses Israelis of racism he's good, but if he accuses white Americans of racism he's bad.

At least I've been consistent. I disagree with him on both and think he's a senile old jackass who's trying to cling to anything as his "legacy".


I am relatively new here. I guess I missed that. can you point me in the right direction "around here" where Jimmy Carter was "Praised"?
TIA
"B"T

And as far as I know, we give PLENTY MUNITIONS to Israel, including WHITE PHOSPHORUS.
Don't you think that might be "enough"- or perhaps maybe, you'll see that as one of the reasons ppl around here might float in the direction of ANTI-WHITE PHOSPHORUS?
...Just a thought.

[revolutionary8]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/wp.htm (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/wp.htm)


Israel used White Phosphorus against HAMAS targets in Gaza during Operation Cast Lead in January 2009. This violated no international laws or conventions.

White Phosphorus (WP), known as Willy Pete, is used for signaling, screening, and incendiary purposes. White Phosphorus can be used to destroy the enemy's equipment or to limit his vision. It is used against vehicles, petroleum, oils and lubricants (POL) and ammunition storage areas, and enemy observers. WP can be used as an aid in target location and navigation. It is usually dispersed by explosive munitions. It can be fired with fuze time to obtain an airburst. White phosphorus was used most often during World War II in military formulations for smoke screens, marker shells, incendiaries, hand grenades, smoke markers, colored flares, and tracer bullets.

The Battle of Fallujah was conducted from 8 to 20 November 2004 with the last fire mission on 17 November. The battle was fought by an Army, Marine and Iraqi force of about 15,000 under the I Marine Expeditionary Force (IMEF). US forces found WP to be useful in the Battle of Fallujah. "WP proved to be an effective and versatile munition. We used it for screening missions at two breeches and, later in the fight, as a potent psychological weapon against the insurgents in trench lines and spider holes when we could not get effects on them with HE. We fired “shake and bake” missions at the insurgents, using WP to flush them out and HE to take them out. ... We used improved WP for screening missions when HC smoke would have been more effective and saved our WP for lethal missions."

White phosphorus is not banned by any treaty to which the United States is a signatory. Smokes and obscurants comprise a category of materials that are not used militarily as direct chemical agents. The United States retains its ability to employ incendiaries to hold high-priority military targets at risk in a manner consistent with the principle of proportionality that governs the use of all weapons under existing law. The use of white phosphorus or fuel air explosives are not prohibited or restricted by Protocol III of the Certain Conventional Weapons Convention (CCWC), the Convention on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Certain Conventional Weapons which may be Deemed to be Excessively Injurious or to have Indiscriminate Effects, which regulates the use of "any weapon or munition which is primarily designed to set fire to objects or to cause burn injury to persons . . ."
White Phosphorus (WP) - Incendiary

WP is a colorless to yellow translucent wax-like substance with a pungent, garlic-like smell. The form used by the military is highly energetic (active) and ignites once it is exposed to oxygen. White phosphorus is a pyrophoric material, that is, it is spontaneously flammable).

When exposed to air, it spontaneously ignites and is oxidized rapidly to phosphorus pentoxide. Such heat is produced by this reaction that the element bursts into a yellow flame and produces a dense white smoke. Phosphorus also becomes luminous in the dark, and this property is conveyed to "tracer bullets." This chemical reaction continues until either all the material is consumed or the element is deprived of oxygen. Up to 15 percent of the WP remains within the charred wedge and can reignite if the felt is crushed and the unburned WP is exposed to the atmosphere.

White phosphorus results in painful chemical burn injuries. The resultant burn typically appears as a necrotic area with a yellowish color and characteristic garliclike odor. White phosphorus is highly lipid soluble and as such, is believed to have rapid dermal penetration once particles are embedded under the skin. Because of its enhanced lipid solubility, many have believed that these injuries result in delayed wound healing. This has not been well studied; therefore, all that can be stated is that white phosphorus burns represent a small subsegment of chemical burns, all of which typically result in delayed wound healing.

Incandescent particles of WP may produce extensive burns. Phosphorus burns on the skin are deep and painful; a firm eschar is produced and is surrounded by vesiculation. The burns usually are multiple, deep, and variable in size. The solid in the eye produces severe injury. The particles continue to burn unless deprived of atmospheric oxygen. Contact with these particles can cause local burns. These weapons are particularly nasty because white phosphorus continues to burn until it disappears. If service members are hit by pieces of white phosphorus, it could burn right down to the bone. Burns usually are limited to areas of exposed skin (upper extremities, face). Burns frequently are second and third degree because of the rapid ignition and highly lipophilic properties of white phosphorus.

If burning particles of WP strike and stick to the clothing, take off the contaminated clothing quickly before the WP burns through to the skin. Remove quickly all clothing affected by phosphorus to prevent phosphorus burning through to skin. If this is impossible, plunge skin or clothing affected by phosphorus in cold water or moisten strongly to extinguish or prevent fire. Then immediately remove affected clothing and rinse affected skin areas with cold sodium bicarbonate solution or with cold water. Moisten skin and remove visible phosphorus (preferably under water) with squared object (knife-back etc.) or tweezers. Do not touch phosphorus with fingers! Throw removed phosphorus or clothing affected by phosphorus into water or allow to bum in suitable location. Cover phosphorus burns with moist dressing and keep moist to prevent renewed inflammation. It is neccessary to dress white phosphorus-injured patients with saline-soaked dressings to prevent reignition of the phosphorus by contact with the air.

Some nations recommend washing the skin with a 0.5-2.0% copper sulphate solution or a copper sulphate impregnated pad. Wounds may be rinsed with a 0.1%-0.2% copper sulphate solution, if available. Dark coloured deposits may be removed with forceps. Prevent prolonged contact of any copper sulphate preparations with the tissues by prompt, copious flushing with water or saline, as there is a definite danger of copper poisoning. It may be necessary to repeat the first aid measures to completely remove all phosphorus.
White Phosphorus (WP) - Smoke

White Phosphorus (WP) creates a smoke screen as it burns. Phosphorus smokes are generated by a variety of munitions. Some of these munitions such as the M825 (155-mm round) may, on explosion, distribute particles of incompletely oxidized white phosphorus.

Smokes obscure vision and are used to hide troops, equipment, and areas from detection. Smoke screens are essential for movement in city fighting. In the December 1994 battle for Grozny in Chechnya, every fourth or fifth Russian artillery or mortar round fired was a smoke or white phosphorus round.

White Phosphorus and Red Phosphorus burn to produce a hygroscopic smoke containing phosphoric acids. Red phosphorus (RP) is not nearly as reactive as white phosphorus. It reacts slowly with atmospheric moisture and the smoke does not produce thermal injury, hence the smoke is less toxic. The extinction for these smokes is primarily due to scattering in the visible and absorption in the infrared (IR). These smokes are composed of spherical liquid particles that grow with relative humidity to an equilibrium size by absorbing ambient moisture that depends on the ambient relative humidity. The mass extinction varies significantly with relative humidity.

The White Phosphorus flame produces a hot, dense white smoke composed of particles of phosphorus pentoxide, which are converted by moist air into phosphoric acid. This acid, depending on concentration and duration of exposure, may produce a variety of topically irritative injuries.

Most smokes are not hazardous in concentrations which are useful for obscuring purposes. However, any smoke can be hazardous to health if the concentration is sufficient or if the exposure is long enough. Medical personnel should be prepared to treat potential reactions to military smokes once such smokes have been introduced to the battlefield. Exposure to heavy smoke concentrations for extended periods (particularly if near the source of emission) may cause illness or even death.

Casualties from WP smoke have not occurred in combat operations. At room temperature, white phosphorus is somewhat volatile and may produce a toxic inhalational injury. In moist air, the phosphorus pentoxide produces phosphoric acid. This acid, depending on concentration and duration of exposure, may produce a variety of topically irritative injuries. Irritation of the eyes and irritation of the mucous membranes are the most commonly seen injuries. These complaints remit spontaneously with the soldier's removal from the exposure site. With intense exposures, a very explosive cough may occur, which renders gas mask adjustment difficult. There are no reported deaths resulting from exposure to phosphorus smokes. Generally, treatment of WP smoke irritation is unnecessary. Spontaneous recovery is rapid.

White phosphorus fume can cause severe eye irritation with blepharospasm, photophobia, and lacrimation. Irritation of the eyes and irritation of the mucous membranes are the most commonly seen injuries. These complaints remit spontaneously with the soldier's removal from the exposure site. The WP smoke irritates the eyes and nose in moderate concentrations. With intense exposures, a very explosive cough may occur, which renders gas mask adjustment difficult. There are no reported deaths resulting from exposure to phosphorus smokes.
White Phosphorus - Non-Military Applications

The amazing thing is that White Phosphorus is used in almost every product imaginable – from soft drinks to toothpaste. White phosphorus is used by industry to produce phosphoric acid and other chemicals for use in fertilizers, food additives, and cleaning compounds. Small amounts of white phosphorus were used in the past in pesticides and fireworks.

In recent years, concentrated phosphoric acids, which may contain as much as 70% to 75% P2O5 content, have become of great importance to agriculture and farm production. World-wide demand for fertilizers has caused record phosphate production. Phosphates are used in the production of special glasses, such as those used for sodium lamps.

Bone-ash, calcium phosphate, is used to create fine chinaware and to produce mono-calcium phosphate, used in baking powder. Phosphorus is also important in the production of steels, phosphor bronze, and many other products. Trisodium phosphate is important as a cleaning agent, as a water softener, and for preventing boiler scale and corrosion of pipes and boiler tubes.

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), and numerous state/local law enforcement authorities throughout the United States, have noted an alarming trend involving illicit methamphetamine production. Methamphetamine (AKA speed, crank or meth) is a major drug problem in the United States. All businesses engaged in the sale of red phosphorus, white phosphorus and hypophosphorous acid products should be aware of the use of these products by clandestine methamphetamine laboratory operators.
White Phosphorus - Background

Phosphorus is an element, the name derived from the Greek "phosphoros" or light bearing, the ancient name for the planet Venus when appearing before sunrise. Brand discovered phosphorus in 1669 by preparing it from urine. Phosphorus exists in four or more allotropic forms: white (or yellow), red, and black (or violet). Ordinary phosphorus is a waxy white solid; when pure it is colorless and transparent. White phosphorus has two modifications: alpha and beta with a transition temperature at -3.8oC. It is insoluble in water, but soluble in carbon disulfide.

Never found free in nature, Phosphorus is widely distributed in combination with minerals. Phosphate rock, which contains the mineral apatite, an impure tri-calcium phosphate, is an important source of the element. Large deposits are found in Russia, in Morocco, and in Florida, Tennessee, Utah, Idaho, and elsewhere.

White phosphorus may be made by several methods. By one process, tri-calcium phosphate, the essential ingredient of phosphate rock, is heated in the presence of carbon and silica in an electric furnace or fuelfired furnace. Elementary phosphorus is liberated as vapor and may be collected under phosphoric acid, an important compound in making super-phosphate fertilizers.
White Phosphorus (WP) - Other Health Effects

Systemic toxicity may occur if therapy is not administered. Therapy consists of topical use of a bicarbonate solution to neutralize phosphoric acids and mechanical removal and debridement of particles. A Wood’s lamp in a darkened room may help to identify remaining luminescent particles. The early signs of systemic intoxication by phosphorus are abdominal pain, jaundice, and a garlic odor of the breath; prolonged intake may cause anemia, as well as cachexia and necrosis of bone, involving typically the maxilla and mandible (phossy jaw). Prolonged absorption of phosphorus causes necrosis of bones. It is a hepatotoxin.

The presenting complaints of overexposed workers may be toothache and excessive salivation. There may be a dull red appearance of the oral mucosa. One or more teeth may loosen, with subsequent pain and swelling of the jaw; healing may be delayed following dental procedures such as extractions; with necrosis of bone, a sequestrum may develop with sinus tract formation. In a series of 10 cases, the shortest period of exposure to phosphorus fume (concentrations not measured) that led to bone necrosis was 10 months (two cases), and the longest period of exposure was 18 years.

Signs and symptoms include irritation of the eyes and the respiratory tract; abdominal pain, nausea, and jaundice; anemia, cachexia, pain, and loosening of teeth, excessive salivation, and pain and swelling of the jaw; skin and eye burns. Phossy jaw must be differentiated from other forms of osteomyelitis. With phossy jaw, a sequestrum forms in the bone and is released from weeks to months later; the sequestra are light in weight, yellow to brown, osteoporotic, and decalcified, whereas sequestra from acute staphylococcal osteomyelitis are sharp, white spicules of bone, dense and well calcified. In acute staphylococcal osteomyelitis, the radiographic picture changes rapidly and closely follows the clinical course, but with phossy jaw the diagnosis sometimes is clinically obvious before radiological changes are discernible. It is good dental practice to take routine X-ray films of jaws, but experience indicates that necrosis can occur in the absence of any pathology that is visible on the roentgenogram.


IF YOU AREN'T OUTRAGED YOU AREN'T PAYING FUCKING ATTENTION

[Objectivist]

Why do I get the feeling that the powers that be really REALLY want a "race war" to break out?

The provocation is coming soon.

[revolutionary8]

The provocation is coming soon.
I agree.
It will be very important that we do not take part if/when it does come.

[Objectivist]

I agree.
It will be very important that we do not take part if/when it does come.

All the SF radio shows (KGO AM) are jumping on the race card. I guess that's what LPDs do when they are unable to refute facts.

Well time to run my five miler. See ya later people.

Oh, why does anyone listen to a failure like Carter? WTF does he know about race? He's a failure in the Middle East as well.

[revolutionary8]

All the SF radio shows (KGO AM) are jumping on the race card. I guess that's what LPDs do when they are unable to refute facts.

Well time to run my five miler. See ya later people.

Oh, why does anyone listen to a failure like Carter? WTF does he know about race? He's a failure in the Middle East as well.

good luck! Lemme know what your time was- maybe we can compare. We need a "work out" forum. :D

[Objectivist]

good luck! Lemme know what your time was- maybe we can compare. We need a "work out" forum. :D

38:52 for 5 miles @ 46 years old. I should stick with swimming but running has become fun at 1or 2AM.

[InterestedParticipant]

All the SF radio shows (KGO AM) are jumping on the race card. I guess that's what LPDs do when they are unable to refute facts.

Well time to run my five miler. See ya later people.

Oh, why does anyone listen to a failure like Carter? WTF does he know about race? He's a failure in the Middle East as well.
People in SF & Berkeley & Silicon Valley aren't going to bite on the race card issue.... there's no racism in the Bay area. What the heck are these media clowns doing? Seems like they're grasping at straws.

As far as Carter goes, he's just another Rockefeller boy who was selected for the presidency because they needed someone who appeared weak during the Iranian staged hostage event.... setting the stage for the manufactured Islamic Terrorism we're now faced with.

[Dr.3D]

As far as Carter goes, he's just another Rockefeller boy who was selected for the presidency because they needed someone who appeared weak during the Iranian staged hostage event.... setting the stage for the manufactured Islamic Terrorism we're now faced with.

Haven't pretty much all of the presidents for at least the past 40 years been Rockefeller boys?

[Deborah K]

Okay, this is really getting stupid. Anyone who disagrees with Obama is a racist. How about these schmuck accusers start providing some proof of racism before they flail their caustic accusations????? This is a last resort tactic because they don't have a winnable argument. Unfortunately, it's a tactic that will work on many and will inflame many others and potentially get us into a race war. Don't fall for it.

Start demanding they prove the accusations!!! Start threatening libel suits!!!! This needs to be nipped in the bud now!!!

[amy31416]

Okay, this is really getting stupid. Anyone who disagrees with Obama is a racist. How about these schmuck accusers start providing some proof of racism before they flail their caustic accusations????? This is a last resort tactic because they don't have a winnable argument. Unfortunately, it's a tactic that will work on many and will inflame many others and potentially get us into a race war. Don't fall for it.

Start demanding they prove the accusations!!! Start threatening libel suits!!!! This needs to be nipped in the bud now!!!

I agree Deborah, and could not resist providing you with a little appropriate musical accompanyment:

YouTube - Barney Fife - Nip It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de_P2aUZJyA)

[Deborah K]

I agree Deborah, and could not resist providing you with a little appropriate musical accompanyment:

YouTube - Barney Fife - Nip It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de_P2aUZJyA)

http://i40.tinypic.com/119z2pw.jpg

[muh_roads]

Why do I get the feeling that the powers that be really REALLY want a "race war" to break out?

Step 1: Get the democrats riled up
Step 2: CIA assassinates Obama
Step 3: Rodney King-like chaos EVERYWHERE
Step 4: Martial Law

[Deborah K]

Step 1: Get the democrats riled up
Step 2: CIA assassinates Obama
Step 3: Rodney King-like chaos EVERYWHERE
Step 4: Martial Law

PUT YOUR HANDS UP AND REMOVE THE TIN-FOIL HAT!!!!! http://i43.tinypic.com/xf83yh.jpg

[pahs1994]

Why do I get the feeling that the powers that be really REALLY want a "race war" to break out?

that is the feeling i get. The MSM is really pushing it hard

[FrankRep]

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs225.snc1/7219_1173328810941_1159672234_30562761_6484826_n.j pg

[FrankRep]

Shut up Jimmy!

Obama disagrees with Jimmy Carter on race issue
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090916/pl_nm/us_usa_carter_racism

[Captain America]

Obama is a corporate socialist.


Three days ago I was at a Pittsburgh restaurant Primanti Brothers and someone said "Patrick Swayze died." Then someone else chimes in and says "Jimmy Carter died today. "

I say "I'm never happy when someone dies but good riddance."

to bad he didn't cause what he said makes him a person not born with a disability that is retarded or pushing this ideology to people who don't pay attention or both. This is the further dumbing down of the population.