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InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 11:57 AM
The ACORN Scandal is meant to:


divert the publics attention away from the healthcare legislation, as public pressure against this bill has been successful;
increase racial tensions between blacks versus non-blacks, increasing division and further diverting the publics attention away from real power;
give the appearance that governmental systems will react and respond judiciously against scandal.


This is my initial take on the fake events that we are witnessing (Simulacrum (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=206336)). I will add more in this thread is this Simulacrum unfolds.

dannno
09-15-2009, 12:04 PM
Dunno if I agree with you.. yet.. I think this organization has had a deep seeded goal of destroying inner cities in order to create a need for more government programs.. they seem to hire criminals in order to ensure that they fund dishonest and criminal activity.

InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 12:11 PM
Dunno if I agree with you.. yet.. I think this organization has had a deep seeded goal of destroying inner cities in order to create a need for more government programs.. they seem to hire criminals in order to ensure that they fund dishonest and criminal activity.
I think both your statement AND my statement are true.

Deborah K
09-15-2009, 12:12 PM
Dunno if I agree with you.. yet.. I think this organization has had a deep seeded goal of destroying inner cities in order to create a need for more government programs.. they seem to hire criminals in order to ensure that they fund dishonest and criminal activity.

^ This. And Obama was a lead attorney for ACORN. And ACORN helped get him elected. And ACORN is now being investigated in 14 states for voter fraud.

InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 12:16 PM
I'm NOT attempting to insinuate that ACORN is some model organization. It's clearly dirty, just doing the bidding of dirty politicians and their monied power brokers.

But I see this similar to a Congressional Sex scandal. We all know that the Congress to full of sexual deviants (RP excluded), so when you see one get busted for some sex-thing you wonder what they did to "upset" the system?

Hence, I'm not saying that they are NOT guilty, I'm just wondering why they are being publicly scolded in such a way that will obviously outrage the public (using a fake prostitution scam).

zach
09-15-2009, 12:22 PM
I think they are using such events in order to provoke the citizens to actually do something about this system.

stilltrying
09-15-2009, 12:33 PM
I have no doubt about what the simulacrum that you are stating. They have manufactured so much but the truth is coming out regardless if it is a simulacrum or not. The only way to escape the current simulacrum is to become a mountain man.

in my opinion there are gobs and gobs of attention getters out there but as long as people stay focused on the biggest simulacrum "the fraudulent federal reserve" then we can expose it for what it is. To me the whole simulacrum starts and ends with the federal reserve. once this repealed there will be tough times but eventually the simulacrum will vastly deflate.

pcosmar
09-15-2009, 12:47 PM
It's a diversion, that is diverting from the diversion. Everything is a diversion. :confused:

Do you even know what reality is?

LibertyEagle
09-15-2009, 12:54 PM
I'm NOT attempting to insinuate that ACORN is some model organization. It's clearly dirty, just doing the bidding of dirty politicians and their monied power brokers.

But I see this similar to a Congressional Sex scandal. We all know that the Congress to full of sexual deviants (RP excluded), so when you see one get busted for some sex-thing you wonder what they did to "upset" the system?

Hence, I'm not saying that they are NOT guilty, I'm just wondering why they are being publicly scolded in such a way that will obviously outrage the public (using a fake prostitution scam).

I see your point and I wonder the same thing. Although, it could just be that the uncontrolled internet media was getting ready to report the story, so FOX decided to leverage it.

InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 12:55 PM
It's a diversion, that is diverting from the diversion. Everything is a diversion. :confused:

Do you even know what reality is?
This is one of the most important questions one should be asking themselves in today's world. You should ask yourself this question everytime you see a symbol thrown at you by corporate Hollywood, or when you hear words uttered by monied politicians, or when you hear stories from multi-national corporate media.

Reality is right here, its me, it's my family, its the trees outside.... it's not a bunch of buffoons in the media and in DC trying to be all big, bad and tough like that weasel behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. The public is the real, the rest of the real has been murdered (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=204724).

The sooner we stop paying attention, the faster they will go away.

InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 12:57 PM
I see your point and I wonder the same thing. Although, it could just be that the uncontrolled internet media was getting ready to report the story, so FOX decided to leverage it.
I won't be able to prove this, but I think the entire thing was setup. Who is the guy that produced this stuff? Do we know anything about him? I betcha with some digging we'll find interesting connections between the film maker and some political or power interests. Its kinda like Michael Moore being connected to the Bush's...who would have thought that after they saw Roger and Me. Or, who would have thought that Koz's dad is CIA and that he's hooked in with the Silicon Valley Military Industrial Complex?

Original_Intent
09-15-2009, 12:58 PM
It's a diversion, that is diverting from the diversion. Everything is a diversion. :confused:

Do you even know what reality is?

Wow, almost exactly what I was thinking.

Bottom line is anything MAY be a diversion, or an agent provocatuer, or whatever.
We have to each chose our own battles and do our best to be effective.
We have to do our own research and take whatever actions we feel necessary.

If every time we start to get mad enough to do something we talk ourselves out of it because we feel we are being provoked or being diverted, well then the opposition has already won, because we are afraid to act.

If all we do is take ourselves off the grid and feel like "the movement" cannot win, then it is a self fulfilling prophesy. Why should we revert back to subsistence living when we are capable of participating in one of the great moments of history.

Assuming that mankind lasts that long, and we aren't back to hunter/gatherers is there any doubt that this time period is going to be talked about in history books 500 years from now? Well since the winners write the history books, maybe if we all just give up it won't be. Maybe history won't even be taught 500 years from now unless it is the history of "1984" sufficiently revised to keep the sheeple from learning any lessons from it.

Well done pcosmar, you said in one sentence what it took me four paragraphs to agree with. :(

InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 01:09 PM
Wow, almost exactly what I was thinking.

Bottom line is anything MAY be a diversion, or an agent provocatuer, or whatever.
We have to each chose our own battles and do our best to be effective.
We have to do our own research and take whatever actions we feel necessary.

If every time we start to get mad enough to do something we talk ourselves out of it because we feel we are being provoked or being diverted, well then the opposition has already won, because we are afraid to act.

If all we do is take ourselves off the grid and feel like "the movement" cannot win, then it is a self fulfilling prophesy. Why should we revert back to subsistence living when we are capable of participating in one of the great moments of history.

Assuming that mankind lasts that long, and we aren't back to hunter/gatherers is there any doubt that this time period is going to be talked about in history books 500 years from now? Well since the winners write the history books, maybe if we all just give up it won't be. Maybe history won't even be taught 500 years from now unless it is the history of "1984" sufficiently revised to keep the sheeple from learning any lessons from it.

Well done pcosmar, you said in one sentence what it took me four paragraphs to agree with. :(
This is the point of the thread.....

So, stay focused, my friends, stay focused.

DapperDan
09-15-2009, 01:23 PM
Watch both hands. And the midget underneath the coat plotting something.

Firegirl
09-15-2009, 01:26 PM
If it was truly meant as a diversion, wouldn't all the MSM be covering it?

Wouldn't really have much effect if they didn't....

InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 01:31 PM
If it was truly meant as a diversion, wouldn't all the MSM be covering it?

Wouldn't really have much effect if they didn't....
Excellent question!

So, the followup question to ask yourself is "who in the media is covering it?"

Then, when you have that answer, ask yourself, "what is the primary target audience for the media that is covering it?"

When you have those answers, then you'll understand who the target audience is for this diversion..... and we'll be able to better refine our original hypothesis posted in the OP.

P.S. If the MSM is not covering it, then the general public is obviously not being targeted.

Bruno
09-15-2009, 01:33 PM
I see your point and I wonder the same thing. Although, it could just be that the uncontrolled internet media was getting ready to report the story, so FOX decided to leverage it.

this. I look for a conspriacy under every rock, and my conspiracy-detector isn't going off on this one.

armstrong
09-15-2009, 01:52 PM
Dunno if I agree with you.. yet.. I think this organization has had a deep seeded goal of destroying inner cities in order to create a need for more government programs.. they seem to hire criminals in order to ensure that they fund dishonest and criminal activity.

got to agree here !!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by pcosmar
It's a diversion, that is diverting from the diversion. Everything is a diversion.

Do you even know what reality is?

Beginning to wonder if we can even get to reality with those who are in power in the white house at this time..... Loved Ron Paul on morning Joe:)

Eric Arthur Blair
09-15-2009, 01:54 PM
if it is a diversion it's a wickedly entertaining one, more diversions like this in future please!

InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 01:58 PM
got to agree here !!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by pcosmar
It's a diversion, that is diverting from the diversion. Everything is a diversion.

Do you even know what reality is?

Beginning to wonder if we can even get to reality with those who are in power in the white house at this time..... Loved Ron Paul on morning Joe:)
Their goal is to control your reality!

So, as long as we continue to pay attention to them you will never ever have anything other than the reality that they design for you (see the video in this thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=204724)).

dannno
09-15-2009, 09:54 PM
I declare this thread in the lead for the title.


www.acorn.org


"They were not believable", said Ms. Kaelke of the two actors. "Somewhat entertaining, but they weren't evengood actors. I didn't know what to make of them. They were clearly playing with me. I decided to shock them as much as they were shocking me. Like Stephan Colbert does – saying the most outrageous things with a straightface." While her sense of humor might not be funny to many people, the fact is that she spun false scenario afterfalse scenario and the videographer ate them up.

Liberty Star
09-15-2009, 09:58 PM
Dunno if I agree with you.. yet.. I think this organization has had a deep seeded goal of destroying inner cities in order to create a need for more government programs.. they seem to hire criminals in order to ensure that they fund dishonest and criminal activity.

How do they compare in scheme of things to major media sluts, major corrupt lobbies, uninvestigated contracts in trillion dollar foreign freedom projects and so forth?


You can be right on an issue and still miss the bigger picture, this is one of those issues. I agree it's manufactured diversion but it has started fail already. Their ratings should already be flopping right about now out of boring repetition of sameness if nothing else.

paulitics
09-15-2009, 10:08 PM
I would say this organization (with tentacles everywhere) is getting into the left side upper management of the machine. This organization was to be used by Obama (and had been used) to implement an agenda, IMO a nefarious one.

How will the townhall events be stacked without Acorn there? What about his civilian national security force, or his idea of "mandatory volunteerism"? At the very least, people will be suspicious of taxpayer funded community organizations for quite sometime.

InterestesParticipant. Sometimes you need to be skeptical of your skepticism.

dannno
09-15-2009, 10:08 PM
How do they compare in scheme of things to major media sluts, major corrupt lobbies, uninvestigated contracts in trillion dollar foreign freedom projects and so forth?


You can be right on an issue and still miss the bigger picture, this is one of those issues. I agree it's manufactured diversion but it has started fail already. Their ratings should already be flopping right about now out of boring repetition of sameness if nothing else.

ACORN running child pornography rings is not boring, that's exciting. I'm sure the ratings are great.. but we'll see how many of these were actually real. Sounds like at least one of them decided to go Stephen Colbert on them. (see post #21 above)

Liberty Star
09-15-2009, 10:11 PM
More "exciting" than Americans getting killed in a war zone following badly concived planning and tax payers funding the Taliban insurgency unknowingly?

Sorry if this is too blunt.

InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 10:16 PM
InterestesParticipant. Sometimes you need to be skeptical of your skepticism.
I try to be :)

But on the other hand, when one has seen the inside, one finds it extremely difficult to think psychopathically enough. I always find the reality, once i understand it, much more devious that my most devious thoughts. That's just been my experience.

And in this case, my gut tells me that whatever is going on is far more devious than any of the discussions that we've had about ACORN at RPF. These guys are acting as the tip of the spear for the lower half of the vice (see quoted reference).


The World Game people run exercises on global control. If you plan on running the
world, you cannot go about it haphazardly. That is why the Insiders of the Ford,
Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations are making these plans. The real name of the
game is 1984. We will have systematic population reduction, forced sterilization or
anything else which the planners deem necessary to establish absolute control in their
humanitarian Utopia. But to enforce these plans, you must have an all-powerful world
government. You can't do this if individual nations have sovereignty. And before you
can facilitate the Great Merger, you must first centralize control within each nation,
destroy the local police {Alex Jones really helps with this one} and remove the guns from
the hands of the citizenry. You
must replace our once free Constitutional Republic with an all-powerful central
government. And that is exactly what is happening today with the Nixon
Administration. Every action of any consequence, despite the smokescreen, has
centralized more power in what is rapidly becoming an all-powerful central
government.

What we are witnessing is the Communist tactic of pressure from above and pressure
from below, described by Communist historian Jan Kozak as the device used by the
Reds to capture control of Czecho-Slovakia. The pressure from above comes from
secret, ostensibly respectable Comrades in the government and Establishment, forming,
with the radicalized mobs in the streets below, a giant pincer around middleclass
society. The street rioters are pawns, shills, puppets, and dupes for an oligarchy
of elitist conspirators working above to turn America's limited government into an
unlimited government with total control over our lives and property.

The American middle-class is being squeezed to death by a vise. (See Chart 9) In the
streets we have avowed revolutionary groups such as the Students for a Democratic
Society (which was started by the League for Industrial Democracy, a group with
strong C.F.R. ties), the Black Panthers, the Yippies, the Young Socialist Alliance.
These groups chant that if we don't "change" America, we will lose it. "Change" is a
word we hear over and over. By "change" these groups mean Socialism. Virtually all
members of these groups sincerely believe that they are fighting the Establishment. In
reality they are an indispensible ally of the Establishment in fastening Socialism on all
of us. The naive radicals think that under Socialism the "people" will run everything.
Actually, it will be a clique of Insiders in total control, consolidating and controlling
all wealth. That is why these schoolboy Lenins and teenage Trotskys are allowed to
roam free and are practically never arrested or prosecuted. They are protected. If the
Establishment wanted the revolutionaries stopped, how long do you think they would
be tolerated?

Chart 9

http://www.makeknowntheunknown.com/images/nonedare-m7f151d4b_1_.gif


Instead, we find that most of these radicals are the recipients of largesse from major
foundations or are receiving money from the government through the War on Poverty.
The Rothschild-Rockefeller-C.F.R. Insiders at the top "surrender to the demands" for
Socialism from the mobs below. The radicals are doing the work of those whom they
hate the most.
.
.
.
THAT IS THE STRATEGY. THE LANDSCAPE PAINTERS FOCUS YOUR
ATTENTION ON THE KIDS IN THE STREET WHILE THE REAL DANGER IS
FROM ABOVE.

As Frank Capell recently observed in The Review Of The News:
"Of course, we know that these radical students are not going to take over the
government. What they are going to do is provide the excuse for the government to
take over the people, by passing more and more repressive laws to 'keep things under
control.'"

The radicals make a commotion in the streets while the Limousine Liberals at the top
in New York and Washington are Socializing us. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A
DICTATORSHIP OF THE ELITE DISGUISED AS A DICTATORSHIP OF THE
PROLETARIAT.

Now the Insiders of the Establishment are moving into a more sophisticated method
of applying pressure from below. John Gardner, a "Republican" and member of the
C.F.R., has established a grass roots proletarian organization called Common Cause.
This may become the biggest and most important organization in American history.
Common Cause's goal is to organize welfare recipients, those who have not voted
before, and Liberals to lobby for Socialism. That lobbying will not only be expressed
in pressuring Congress to pass Socialist legislation but will also be expressed as ballot
power in elections. Common Cause is supposedly the epitome of anti-
Establishmentarianism, but who is paying the bills? The elite Insider radicals from
above. The number one bankroller of this group to overthrow the super-rich and redistribute
their wealth among the poor is John D. Rockefeller III. Other key financiers
are Andrew Heiskell (CFR), chairman of the board of Time, Inc., Thomas Watson
(CFR), chairman of the board of IBM, John Whitney (CFR) of the Standard Oil
fortune, Sol Linowitz (CFR), chairman of the board of Xerox, and Gardner Cowles
(CFR) of Cowles publications. In any organization, the man who pays the bills is the
boss. The others are his employees.

What better proof could we have that Socialism is not a movement of downtrodden
masses but of power hungry elitists? The poor are merely pawns in the game.
Needless to say, the landscape painters hide Common Cause's financial angels so that
only those who understand that the Establishment's game plan is SOCIALISM
understand what is going on before their very eyes.


Excerpt from:
None Dare Call it Conspiracy (http://www.amazon.com/None-Dare-Call-It-Conspiracy/dp/B000BNPWFY)
by Gary Allen , Larry Abraham

PDF's available online at:
http://www.captaincanadacrusades.ca/articles/none-dare-call-it-conspiracy%5B1%5D.pdf

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2297676/conspiracy-Gary-Allen-None-Dare-Call-it-Conspiracy-english-rarereactor

ladyliberty3
09-15-2009, 10:17 PM
After reading the following I'm wondering how much of all this other stuff (healthcare reform, bailouts, town hall meetings, ineligibility, the Fed. now Acorn,etc., etc., that's got the citizenry all riled up, knowing that there is so much "controlled oposition" out there), are just a bunch of smoke screens to divert our attention away from what's happening in our 'LOCAL' governments.
http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom145.htm

TheConstitutionLives
09-15-2009, 10:19 PM
The ACORN Scandal is meant to:


divert the publics attention away from the healthcare legislation, as public pressure against this bill has been successful;
increase racial tensions between blacks versus non-blacks, increasing division and further diverting the publics attention away from real power;
give the appearance that governmental systems will react and respond judiciously against scandal.


This is my initial take on the fake events that we are witnessing (Simulacrum (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=206336)). I will add more in this thread is this Simulacrum unfolds.


Lay off the crackpipe.

BenIsForRon
09-15-2009, 10:25 PM
IP, I agree a lot of fucked up stuff is happening behind the scenes, but I hate how you create these threads.

Why don't you just write a book since you know so damn much and quit posting all these threads.

InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 10:27 PM
Lay off the crackpipe.
Got all sorts of posters making comments like that on the "Wilscon 'You Lie' Heckle was Pre Arranged (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=209445)" thread, but I nailed that one almost immediately after the event. Why do you think my analysis would be any less credible here?



IP, I agree a lot of fucked up stuff is happening behind the scenes, but I hate how you create these threads.

Why don't you just write a book since you know so damn much and quit posting all these threads.
But I genuinely like RPF and the people here. Why would you try to push me away?

emazur
09-15-2009, 10:31 PM
More "exciting" than Americans getting killed in a war zone following badly concived planning and tax payers funding the Taliban insurgency unknowingly?

Sorry if this is too blunt.

Yes, more exciting to most because the Afghan war has been going on 8 years and many people don't even care anymore. Andrew Bacevich said the reason most people cared about Vietnam was b/c there was a draft. Now there isn't, and people don't have to put their own asses on the line, thus the subject of war (after an initial period) doesn't really excite people. People don't understand economics either, so the cost of continuing the wars won't make an impact on them (until someone makes it clear).

And I for one am glad to see ACORN being shot at - Beck has covered the ACORN founders before and in their own words, they basically wanted to dismantle capitalism in slow motion (like the Fabians) and implement a socialist government in the United States. The NWO can sit back and relax with groups like this doing doing all the work for them. The sooner ACORN is dismantled, the better.

InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 10:41 PM
After reading the following I'm wondering how much of all this other stuff (healthcare reform, bailouts, town hall meetings, ineligibility, the Fed. now Acorn,etc., etc., that's got the citizenry all riled up, knowing that there is so much "controlled oposition" out there), are just a bunch of smoke screens to divert our attention away from what's happening in our 'LOCAL' governments.
http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom145.htm
Wow.... this guy gets it....


I have been traveling the nation over the past few months sounding the alarm that we cannot win this battle to restore our Republic if we don’t understand that what we face is not a bunch of random issues – but a complete agenda of control

May I suggest that you post this article in a separate thread... this should be seen and discussed.

revolutionisnow
09-15-2009, 10:45 PM
The media can manufacture division and diversion over anything. Its a matter of what they cover and what they don't cover, not them covertly planning and "creating news stories" to then counter. If it wasn't Acorn, you lie, MJ,kids kicked out of pools, etc, it would just be something else.

BenIsForRon
09-15-2009, 10:46 PM
But I genuinely like RPF and the people here. Why would you try to push me away?

Because you post more threads than anybody else and they are all pure speculation. You make these forums worse.

paulitics
09-15-2009, 10:50 PM
. The sooner ACORN is dismantled, the better.

I agree, and I can't help but think how this will throw a monkey wrench in Rahm Emmanuel's plan for "mandatory volunteerism". I think this will tarnish all community organizations names in the near future (I hope).

It's time for us to expose Americorps as well, because this is an umbrella organization that can fund groups like acorn, so if acorn dies, a new one can spring up.

InterestedParticipant
09-15-2009, 11:04 PM
Because you post more threads than anybody else and they are all pure speculation. You make these forums worse.
As of right now, I have 1220 posts since Oct 2007. That's pretty low compared to most here. I notice that you avg 1.62 posts per day and that I am currently averaging 1.76 poster per day. I don't think you have a justifiable issue.

FrankRep
09-15-2009, 11:44 PM
The ACORN Scandal is meant to:


divert the publics attention away from the healthcare legislation, as public pressure against this bill has been successful;
increase racial tensions between blacks versus non-blacks, increasing division and further diverting the publics attention away from real power;
give the appearance that governmental systems will react and respond judiciously against scandal.


This is my initial take on the fake events that we are witnessing (Simulacrum (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=206336)). I will add more in this thread is this Simulacrum unfolds.

I'm starting to like you, interesting observations.

However, the ACORN/Czar Scandal is seriously damaging Obama's credibility in the eyes of the public.

tonesforjonesbones
09-16-2009, 12:01 AM
well, I had to back up from some of the conspiracies...because things are very cloudy. It's all part of the dialectic...and you end up chasing your tail. tones

dannno
09-16-2009, 12:07 AM
well, I had to back up from some of the conspiracies...because things are very cloudy. It's all part of the dialectic...and you end up chasing your tail. tones

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=210262&highlight=acorn

Dionysus
09-16-2009, 12:16 AM
Either we're hurtling headlong into chaos, or this is some ******* great psy-op.

dannno
09-16-2009, 12:18 AM
well, I had to back up from some of the conspiracies...because things are very cloudy. It's all part of the dialectic...and you end up chasing your tail. tones

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=210262

specsaregood
09-16-2009, 12:21 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=210262&highlight=acorn

Danno, the lady has had a few days to come up with a story. After the first few came out, she not doubt recognized them and knew she was going to get featured. What else is she gonna say? The "oh I knew all a long and made it all up" is the obvious excuse. But when you combine this one with the other ones and how similar their reactions were, then either they all were making it up or her story loses its credibility.

Dionysus
09-16-2009, 12:32 AM
Is this not a healthy nation?
Is this not a stable nation?
Is this not a thriving nation?
This is a dying nation.
Causa sui.

KAYA
09-16-2009, 12:35 AM
Danno, the lady has had a few days to come up with a story. After the first few came out, she not doubt recognized them and knew she was going to get featured. What else is she gonna say? The "oh I knew all a long and made it all up" is the obvious excuse. But when you combine this one with the other ones and how similar their reactions were, then either they all were making it up or her story loses its credibility.

And if she did make it all up and play along with this undercover set up as ACORN claims then why did ACORN fire these employees? Which is it ACORN? You can't claim nothing happened yet fire someone on the grounds of something you claim never happened.

You can't punish someone for an offense you claim they never did.

revolutionary8
09-16-2009, 12:46 AM
nm.
inform the soccer moms. They'll be pissed, as they should be pissed.

ladyliberty3
09-16-2009, 07:52 AM
Wow.... this guy gets it....



May I suggest that you post this article in a separate thread... this should be seen and discussed.

I posted in in:
Agenda of Total Control-WAKE UP AMERICA

paulitics
09-16-2009, 08:15 AM
New update. Beck just announced that he is is interviewing Obama, which I am sure Acorn will be a main topic on Monday.

InterestedParticipant
09-16-2009, 09:30 AM
The media can manufacture division and diversion over anything. Its a matter of what they cover and what they don't cover, not them covertly planning and "creating news stories" to then counter. If it wasn't Acorn, you lie, MJ,kids kicked out of pools, etc, it would just be something else.
This statement is inaccurate and will result in limiting people's thinking about what is going on around them. Many more events are manufactured than I think anyone here would ever believe. This has been going on since before Roman times, but modern PR was created by Edward Bernays, who worked with western governments to orchestrate the types of events that we now witness today. What do you think Watergate was?


I'm starting to like you, interesting observations.

However, the ACORN/Czar Scandal is seriously damaging Obama's credibility in the eyes of the public.
Hmmmm, ever think this is deliberate? The Club of Rome openly talked about the need to destroy democratic governments. In their book, the First Global Revolution, they acknowledge the need to demolish the current system and replace it with a new one, saying “Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today’s problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time.”


well, I had to back up from some of the conspiracies...because things are very cloudy. It's all part of the dialectic...and you end up chasing your tail. tones
There are God's dialectics, which are found throughout nature: the leaf pushing against the wind versus the wind pushing against the leaf; your feet pushing against the earth while the earth pushes an equal amount of force against your feet; the sea water pounding against the rocks versus the rocks preventing the water from moving...... and then there are all these man made dialectics, such as terrorism versus security; resource scarcities versus human population; system design versus the individual.

The manufactured dialectics are just that, manufactured. They are created in order to shift society's "equilibrium" from one 'condition' to another 'condition.' I think when people recognize the manufactured dialects and their obvious intent, the things become crystal clear.


Either we're hurtling headlong into chaos, or this is some ******* great psy-op.
It's the world's greatest psy-op, with power hoping to push us toward a 'Day of the Locust' type ending so they can be called upon to save-us, affirming their power over us. Walking away from their manufactured events, dialectics, speeches, media show, etc. is the ONLY way to combat these power hungry Wizard of Oz man-behind-the-curtain types.

Psy-op is all they have. No matter what AJ and the rest of the COINTEL patriot media says to try to scare you. It's all smoke and mirrors.... if we walk away from them, tell me what do they have? All their power comes from us being afraid of them and their perceived power. The Movie Monsters Inc (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=204024) tells us this explicitly.


Is this not a healthy nation?
Is this not a stable nation?
Is this not a thriving nation?
This is a dying nation.
Causa sui.
I completely disagree. This is propaganda.

What I see more and more each day is a thriving vibrant nation of individuals who have yet to lose the spirit endeared by our founders. As we each lift the curtain of deception being perpetrated on us during our lifetimes, we are each fighting these moves to a some new global system, working to retain our individuality and working to throw-off the attempts of this borg-like assimilation.