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Hawaii Libertarian
06-04-2007, 09:29 PM
Jon Stewart was actually respectful and not condescending. Good show!


ADMIN NOTE: Watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUf_CawuPag

swatmc
06-04-2007, 09:31 PM
You can tell Jon Stewart is really taken by the good Doctor.

manuel
06-04-2007, 09:34 PM
Jon Stewart is a horrible interviewer. He can't ask questions clearly and can't stay on topic. Other than that, I'm excited that we can get this message out there.

Ron Paul did well, even with the minimal amount of questions served.

Scribbler de Stebbing
06-04-2007, 09:35 PM
Stewart is a comedian. But I didn't get to see it. Waiting on our YouTube friends. Avareth? Cujo? What's taking so long? :)

slantedview
06-04-2007, 09:35 PM
Jon can get a decent interview if he wants. His show is so damn short and time constrained though... there's never really much that comes of an interview there. It's not PBS.

Give me liberty
06-04-2007, 09:36 PM
That was really Good, thourgh Stewart should have asked him more.
But the crowd was somewhat good.

cujothekitten
06-04-2007, 09:37 PM
Stewart is a comedian. But I didn't get to see it. Waiting on our YouTube friends. Avareth? Cujo? What's taking so long? :)

Working on it :)

DavyDuke17
06-04-2007, 09:37 PM
They should make the Daily Show longer and put in a some more real political talk.

Misesian
06-04-2007, 09:39 PM
The quote of the night was when Jon Stewart mentioned Ron Paul's "consistent principled integrity" and then followed with the truthful sarcasm of "Americans don't want that!".

Maybe they haven't in the past, but I believe they do now.

DjLoTi
06-04-2007, 09:40 PM
The quote of the night was when Jon Stewart mentioned Ron Paul's "consistent principled integrity" and then followed with the truthful sarcasm of "Americans don't want that!".

Maybe they haven't in the past, but I believe they do now.

AMEN brother, AMEN!!!!!! :) :)

llamabread
06-04-2007, 09:40 PM
They should make the Daily Show longer and put in a some more real political talk.

If they did that, it would become Comedy Central nightly news, with Jon Stewart.

joenaab
06-04-2007, 09:42 PM
Anyone know the size of the Daily Show's audience?

manuel
06-04-2007, 09:43 PM
The quote of the night was when Jon Stewart mentioned Ron Paul's "consistent principled integrity" and then followed with the truthful sarcasm of "Americans don't want that!".

This is something that I seriously ask myself every day.

rockjoa
06-04-2007, 09:45 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_show

Television ratings show that the program generally has 1.4 million viewers nightly,[4] a high figure for cable television. In demographic terms, the viewership is skewed to a relatively young audience compared to traditional news shows. A 2004 Nielsen Media Research study commissioned by Comedy Central put the median age at 35. In fact, during the 2004 U.S. presidential election, the show received more male viewers in the 18-34 year old age demographic than Nightline, Meet the Press, Hannity & Colmes and all of the evening news broadcasts."

cujothekitten
06-04-2007, 09:48 PM
Intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mks9o7OoaWk

More soon :D

Scribbler de Stebbing
06-04-2007, 09:49 PM
Intro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mks9o7OoaWk

More soon :D

Cujo, you are FABULOUS!

Razmear
06-04-2007, 09:53 PM
OT: New record set tonight for this site:
Most users ever online was 176, Today at 11:46 PM.

MsDoodahs
06-04-2007, 09:55 PM
We're RP groupies...

Scribbler de Stebbing
06-04-2007, 09:56 PM
OT: New record set tonight for this site:
Most users ever online was 176, Today at 11:46 PM.

Everytime he speaks, even if past our respective bedtimes, we swarm to see if the YouTube link is ready. Cujo posted the fishsticks teaser, but I need the doctor.

Kandilynn
06-04-2007, 09:58 PM
Jon Stewart didn't want Ron Paul to leave so he could talk to him on the break. But Ron Paul took off. It was sad.

Ron Paul rocked this interview.

joenaab
06-04-2007, 09:59 PM
on the subject of cutting medicare and other social programs, couldn't RP's position be two-fold:

1. Private companies always do things better than the govt.
2. Its better for the States to handle these things, from education to health care to care for the elderly, in a manner decided by the people of that state

I think a fear for the elderly would be that private enterprise would leave without care. Doesn't a constitutionalist position allow for the states to innovate in social services (or not, should they choose not to)?

cujothekitten
06-04-2007, 10:03 PM
Rest of the interview :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUf_CawuPag

Tin_Foil_Hat
06-04-2007, 10:04 PM
Rest of the interview :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUf_CawuPag

Thank you!!!!

austinphish
06-04-2007, 10:05 PM
Jon Stewart didn't want Ron Paul to leave so he could talk to him on the break. But Ron Paul took off. It was sad.

Ron Paul rocked this interview.

That was a very reasonable interview. Ron Paul never emphasizes/hammers his points home, and instead goes off on a tangent w/o pause. It can be hard to follow, but that is just my 2 cents, and is working so far. I only took intro to public speaking in college and I think RP would get an A but only b/c he is a total badass.

He has to get to New Hampshire from LA and get some rest. We need him sharp for tomorrow. Hopefull he gives Jon a thank you call sometime and they can chat some more.

TOMORROW is huge:
Tell CNN the Time breakdown PER candidate better be better!!

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And be politie! They already think were nuts! So, try not to metion a specific candidate, just ask that they all get the same treatment and time!


Tell CNN the Time breakdown PER candidate better be better Than last nights


http://www.cnn.com/feedback/


LET THEM KNOW

This is unfair how they allowed candidates 3 TIMES the amount as others. Make sure to stand up to CNN doing this; and demand an equal amount of time for ALL candidates and a poll.

Elwar
06-04-2007, 10:06 PM
Great interview. Fair and entertaining.

lucky
06-04-2007, 10:08 PM
on the subject of cutting medicare and other social programs, couldn't RP's position be two-fold:

1. Private companies always do things better than the govt.
2. Its better for the States to handle these things, from education to health care to care for the elderly, in a manner decided by the people of that state

I think a fear for the elderly would be that private enterprise would leave without care. Doesn't a constitutionalist position allow for the states to innovate in social services (or not, should they choose not to)?

It has always been two fold. Private companies always can do better than the Government especially when there is competition.

Should be the states have any social programs if any are desired by the citizens of that state. It would also be more easy to make any changes desired at the state or local level as the bureaucracy is less. Also cheaper. Right now if the Feds see anything wrong they just throw more money at it instead of changing course.

Scribbler de Stebbing
06-04-2007, 10:11 PM
Rest of the interview :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUf_CawuPag

That was good! Still not completely slick, but had made a couple funnies.

Thanks again, Cujo!

Korey Kaczynski
06-04-2007, 10:12 PM
That was a very good move mentioning that he said we should not be afraid of people with a lot of money in entertainment.

dwdollar
06-04-2007, 10:13 PM
That was a very good move mentioning that he said we should not be afraid of people with a lot of money in entertainment.

YES!! I thought that was very clever also.

joenaab
06-04-2007, 10:22 PM
great interview! thanks for posting it so quickly. jon stewart was great and its obvious he likes him.

i'd like to hear Dr. Paul speak more about empowering the states when he's asked questions about cutting social programs.

1. more efficient, less costly
2. closer to home, more accountable
3. managed by people who live in the state
4. designed by people who live in the state
5. can create partnerships with local private businesses
6. the people can decide how to raise the funds amongst them
7. states will become innovate, share ideas, the best models emerge

i know a polished answer about how much better a state can manage care for the elderly (or any service) than the federal government would make my mom feel a lot more likely to vote for Dr. Paul.

joshdvm
06-04-2007, 10:23 PM
"I'm here from the government and I'm here to help you..."

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was VERY quick.:D

findmemonkey
06-04-2007, 10:24 PM
Did you notice how Ron Paul has his hands all in open on table, a true sign of honest man

wecandoit
06-04-2007, 10:28 PM
Good interview. I wish he would have expanded a little more about "forcing democracy on others" but as it was, he conveyed the point, and the audience
recieved it well. That was the biggest boost we got out of this interview for people seeing him for the first time.

Jon taking shots at Rudy while Ron stayed the gentleman was also nice.

Bison
06-04-2007, 10:36 PM
I thought he did well. I'm glad he got to talk about some more issues besides the war. People need to see that he is not a one issue candidate.

joenaab
06-04-2007, 10:36 PM
Americans love an underdog. They love a story about an unlikely hero beating extraordinary odds to defeat the big, bad, powerful dark force. Ron Paul is perfect for the role.

dwdollar
06-04-2007, 10:39 PM
I see we are at 800 members now on the forums. I wonder if we picked up anyone because they saw Paul on the show?

lucky
06-04-2007, 10:40 PM
Rest of the interview :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUf_CawuPag


Many thanks. Awesome to be able to come in here and get the link. I have a slow connection and it took awhile to watch but was worth every second. I thought it was a great interview. He is showing he can discuss anything with anyone and stay consistent.

Bison
06-04-2007, 10:41 PM
I have been lurking for a few days myself. Glad to be on board.

carla8478
06-04-2007, 10:51 PM
I see we are at 800 members now on the forums. I wonder if we picked up anyone because they saw Paul on the show?

I've actually been tracking the numbers for a few days now and we have been growing steadily. We were at 723 members on May 31. So in 5 days we've gained 76 members. Not bad. But it will grow even more. These things happen exponentially. There ought to be a celebratory post when we reach 1,000. :)

Blowback
06-04-2007, 11:32 PM
One of my favorite interviews yet. Ron Paul was hilarious.

LizF
06-05-2007, 12:04 AM
Thank you so much Cujo for posting the link to the interview!!! Yay!!!

RP was great, and so was Jon Stewart for hosting him!

Swmorgan77
06-05-2007, 12:14 AM
Agreed. He needs to deflect it; Let states decide on those issues. Then elect the best federal politicians based on their ability to defend our country and our liberties. Explain how ever increasing government spending gave rise to the lobbyist industry and is actively undermining their ability to accomplish what they want anyway.

Yes but at least in the short term this shouldn't hurt him with Conservatives in the race for the GOP nomination...

Electric Church
06-05-2007, 12:15 AM
cujothekitten, you are one of America's heros for posting that link...may God bless you:)

Swmorgan77
06-05-2007, 12:17 AM
on the subject of cutting medicare and other social programs, couldn't RP's position be two-fold:

1. Private companies always do things better than the govt.
2. Its better for the States to handle these things, from education to health care to care for the elderly, in a manner decided by the people of that state

I think a fear for the elderly would be that private enterprise would leave without care. Doesn't a constitutionalist position allow for the states to innovate in social services (or not, should they choose not to)?

Well the Constitution does leave a lot of discretion to the states, but in the end I still think government welfare at any level is unconstitutional because it necessarily violates the right of property through coercive taxation. I don't think RP is going to use the Federal government to shut down state welfare programs, however, if he is elected President. Furthermore, there is a natural incentive for States to keep welfare and taxation to a minimum, if the Federal government leaves them alone on the issue. They have to compete with other states, so if one state has massive taxes and welfare then they lose businesses and enterpeneuers while all of the welfare-recipients flood in. The principle of competition comes into play at the state level, whereas with the Federal government doing it nation-wide you dont' have this.

The message to liberals is this: Your intentions are good, your goals and your compassion are good...

Let's just find ways to accomplish them without using the force, waste and inefficiency of government. Why not form a private cooperative unemployment insurance company and enter into it voluntarily? This way the free market keeps the rates low and the services good. This way people still have the all-important (to liberals) "safety-net" but you got it without having to use coercive force (which government is). You probably get it a lot cheaper in the long run too.

Let's face it, if government programs were so wonderful and worthwile, people would invest in them voluntarily. The only reason they need to be taxed and mandated is because they SUCK!

carla8478
06-05-2007, 12:24 AM
Let's face it, if government programs were so wonderful and worthwile, people would invest in them voluntarily. The only reason they need to be taxed and mandated is because they SUCK!

That's what it all boils down to. Great comment!

SlapItHigh
06-05-2007, 01:13 AM
I thought it was great and Jon was cracking me up...definitely makes me want to watch him more. I'm going to email him and thank him. Ron was absolutely wonderful!! I was rolling when he didn't hear Jon and got up and left.

denvervoipguru
06-05-2007, 02:28 AM
RP could have been a little stronger. I think he's nervous and needs to relax...he got a lot of soft balls from Stewart that he could have hit further.

Like his line about "nothing wrong with people making money...even entertainers..."

Crowd was great...thanks to the RP supporters that went!!

Delivered4000
06-05-2007, 05:36 AM
That Giuliani joke at the end was funny

angelatc
06-05-2007, 05:54 AM
on the subject of cutting medicare and other social programs, couldn't RP's position be two-fold:

1. Private companies always do things better than the govt.
2. Its better for the States to handle these things, from education to health care to care for the elderly, in a manner decided by the people of that state


The whole problem with that is simply that the Democrats don't believe that the "evil corporations" actually do things better than government. They don't like corporations because they make profits, and in their perception, those profits come from stupid customers and abused employees.

I have found that it's tough to convince people that it's a bad program, because they do not care how much it costs or how wasteful it is as long as Grandma gets her to see her MD.

Gee
06-05-2007, 06:56 AM
RP doesn't really take a strong stance on abolishing welfare programs, though. As he said, its not high on his agenda, and he'd never get the congressional support to do it. So I don't see what the issue is.

beermotor
06-05-2007, 07:04 AM
Right ... it's all about what the executive branch can do. Abolishing legislation isn't really possible, at least outright. Shutting down LOTS of bad agencies surely is possible . . . and of course stopping the war. But the biggest benefit is the constant airplay - to get the Message out.

joenaab
06-05-2007, 07:40 AM
Furthermore, there is a natural incentive for States to keep welfare and taxation to a minimum, if the Federal government leaves them alone on the issue. They have to compete with other states, so if one state has massive taxes and welfare then they lose businesses and enterpeneuers while all of the welfare-recipients flood in. The principle of competition comes into play at the state level, whereas with the Federal government doing it nation-wide you dont' have this.


This is a big part of what I'm talking about. An explosion of innovation that will begin when authority is transferred from federal to state. I put this in an earlier post in this thread when I was trying to enumerate "talking points" for handling questions about reducing social welfare programs.

There are two points I'm trying to separate, one is the theory/argument as to private versus public and the other is the marketing aspect of campaigning and how his answers to these questions need to be packaged in a way that is sellable to voters, while still being honest.

In some ways, the "deferring to the states" is going to be a great response to tough questions. He uses this every time he is asked about abortion, for example.

We are trying to get him elected and this is a way to attract even the most liberal of democrats and socialist leaning people. Tell them that they will have a greater voice and more freedom to innovate at the state level.

joenaab
06-05-2007, 07:43 AM
I'm waking up to e-mail from a lot of friends who, on my request, watched the Daily Show and saw Ron Paul speak for the first time in their lives and they all loved him (like someone couldn't!). They are a diverse group, too. One owns a large financial investment firm in San Diego and several of them write sitcoms in Los Angeles.

Delivered4000
06-05-2007, 09:28 AM
Sweet. Maybe those writers could 'write him in'

Erazmus
06-05-2007, 09:57 AM
I thought it was great and Jon was cracking me up...definitely makes me want to watch him more. I'm going to email him and thank him. Ron was absolutely wonderful!! I was rolling when he didn't hear Jon and got up and left.

If you like Jon Stewart, I recommend watching this...

Part 1 of the John Stewart Interview on Bill Moyers Journal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDiWMPuOxLQ&mode=related&search=)

It really impressed me. Jon Stewart really is a very intelligent man.

KingTheoden
06-05-2007, 09:59 AM
on the subject of cutting medicare and other social programs, couldn't RP's position be two-fold:

1. Private companies always do things better than the govt.
2. Its better for the States to handle these things, from education to health care to care for the elderly, in a manner decided by the people of that state

I think a fear for the elderly would be that private enterprise would leave without care. Doesn't a constitutionalist position allow for the states to innovate in social services (or not, should they choose not to)?

Yes, states can and in some cases to have medical benefits for the elderly. He took a strong position in my view in that he said ending government Medicare is not his highest priority and that there would of course be a transition period because people have been taught for almost 80 years that they should be dependent on government for every want and need. Since he comes off as genuinely friendly, it will be a lot harder to paint him as the ultra meanie who wants old people to drop dead. And frankly, his presentation of his views is much better than how others have attempted in the past.

I think it was a very strong showing for him and while the deck is clearly being stacked against him in this debate (with his podium at the very end), I still think he will do well this evening.

slantedview
06-05-2007, 10:23 AM
If you like Jon Steward, I recommend watching this...

Part 1 of the John Stewart Interview on Bill Moyers Journal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDiWMPuOxLQ&mode=related&search=)

It really impressed me. Jon Stewart really is a very intelligent man.
Yeah, I saw that interview. Bill kept trying to get Jon to admit that there's more going on with the daily show than just comedy and that he does more to progress news journalism than many "real" journalists, but Jon, ever so modest, absolutely wouldn't accept that idea.

Mattsa
06-05-2007, 10:57 AM
Everytime there's a Ron Paul interview, I have to wait till next day to catch it because of the time difference here in the UK!

So I just rushed back from work to catch the interview and the crowds outside

And it went pretty well didn't it!!!!

A good interview...always too short...but good none the less, and plenty of support outside too. Wish I was there! I would definitely get involved in the action

maggiebott
06-05-2007, 12:26 PM
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Is that sign in connecticut really there? I went to your my space page and had the best laugh! birthplace of dubya and they actually apologize! Sure tells it all. I tried sending email to others on the link. An error pops up and disconnects me. Also can't print it out.

maggiebott
06-05-2007, 12:45 PM
got my registration but link in email would not take me into your site. Is this because of firefox?

USAFCapt
06-05-2007, 01:57 PM
i'd like to hear Dr. Paul speak more about empowering the states when he's asked questions about cutting social programs.

1. more efficient, less costly
2. closer to home, more accountable
3. managed by people who live in the state
4. designed by people who live in the state
5. can create partnerships with local private businesses
6. the people can decide how to raise the funds amongst them
7. states will become innovate, share ideas, the best models emerge



closer to home and more accountable is a very good rallying cry. that popped right out at me.

Pablo82
06-05-2007, 06:40 PM
Just joined the forum, Ron Paul is the only candidate speaking the truth at the moment, I think if more people were to watch Aaron Russo's 'Freedom to facism' they would start to understand this. Unfortunately, I fear that not enough Americans will understand Ron's message in time for the election. There needs to be a drastic publicity stunt. If I weren't so far away here in the UK I would quit work and go door to door telling people to at least check him out.

dude58677
06-05-2007, 06:54 PM
"There needs to be a drastic publicity stunt."

That is why Ron Paul needs to create and run a PGA event in New Hampshire. It will boost his funds and make him famous.

Swmorgan77
06-06-2007, 04:02 PM
I loved the line about "it's okay if people make lots of money... even in entertainment".

Classic. RP and his campaign are handling all of this like real pros. You would think they had been in dozens of Presidential races.