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awake
09-09-2009, 07:08 PM
Opps

awake
09-09-2009, 07:09 PM
Some Republican shouted it in the middle of Obama's speech.... good for him.

ShowMeLiberty
09-09-2009, 07:10 PM
Srsly? Hahahahaha!

kahless
09-09-2009, 07:11 PM
Pelosi's reacted and kept staring in the direction of the person who yelled that. You could hear some noise in the background and I wondered if someone was being removed from the chamber. It was off camera so you could not really tell what happened.

awake
09-09-2009, 07:12 PM
I heard it live.... hope somebody Youtubed' it before it gets memory holed'.

paulitics
09-09-2009, 07:12 PM
haha!

Anti Federalist
09-09-2009, 07:13 PM
Of course he does.

That's in the job description.

Revolution_Ready
09-09-2009, 07:14 PM
Good for him, wonder who it was. Sure was a lot of booing. It was right after he stated none of his healthcare plans would involve illegal immigrants, it is a lie, by his own admission.

"Require all to have health care so nobody bears the costs of others"
SO what happens when an illegal walks in a hospital now obama??
It's IS a lie.

InterestedParticipant
09-09-2009, 07:44 PM
A little pot calling kettle black?

ShowMeLiberty
09-09-2009, 07:45 PM
Here it is:

YouTube - progressnotcongress.org: Republican Joe Wilson calls Obama a liar during speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97pudAl8BlM)

apropos
09-09-2009, 07:52 PM
Good for him.

Definitely enjoyed seeing Pelosi's head spin around like that. I guess she doesn't get out of her bubble much.

Liberty Star
09-09-2009, 08:00 PM
This on this:


Yes , especially if he didn't vote for Bush bailouts, Iraqi freedom, Patriot act etc. Then he's bold and not just a partisan hack suddenly turned patriot.



EDIT: Nevermind. While exposing Obama's policies is good, I withdraw my qualified praise for his guts.

Joe Wilson

Voted NO on investigating Bush impeachment for lying about Iraq. (Jun 2008)

Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)
Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)

Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)




http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Joe_Wilson.htm


Few things I detest more than hypocrisy.

Jeremy
09-09-2009, 08:18 PM
awake, you should design a shirt around "You Lie"

:p

awake
09-09-2009, 08:19 PM
I was thinking the same thing....

Liberty Jihad
09-09-2009, 08:21 PM
YouTube - SC Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama A Liar During Speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVn4FD2Ycww)

I applaud this Rep. Joe Wilson (R).

http://i31.tinypic.com/2iv20if.jpg

Dr.3D
09-09-2009, 08:21 PM
Good for him.

Definitely enjoyed seeing Pelosi's head spin around like that. I guess she doesn't get out of her bubble much.

She was probably wondering how the 'AstroTurf' got into the building.

2young2vote
09-09-2009, 08:25 PM
Obama was actually looking a little bit annoyed there hahaha. Pelosi... ha.

SovereignMN
09-09-2009, 08:26 PM
I laughed at Biden put his head down in shame. What a schmuck.

phill4paul
09-09-2009, 08:29 PM
Here it is:

YouTube - progressnotcongress.org: Republican Joe Wilson calls Obama a liar during speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97pudAl8BlM)

When he mentioned Kennedy they flshed around to all the crying peoples. Lawd even Biden wiped his eye.
This was CNN because I was waiting for Larry King.
Was this water fest on every channel?

InterestedParticipant
09-09-2009, 08:31 PM
Be careful everybody.... we can't be certain this wasn't setup. My words of the thread are: caution and patience. Let's see where they go with this before anyone gets too excited. I'm always dubious of the 12-dimensional chess games these guys play.

Dionysus
09-09-2009, 08:36 PM
Be careful everybody.... we can't be certain this wasn't setup. My words of the thread are: caution and patience. Let's see where they go with this before anyone gets too excited. I'm always dubious of the 12-dimensional chess games these guys play.

Comment of the day! ROFL

angelatc
09-09-2009, 08:39 PM
She was probably wondering how the 'AstroTurf' got into the building.

Terrorist.

Dr.3D
09-09-2009, 08:40 PM
Terrorist.

Those guys too. :D

awake
09-09-2009, 08:41 PM
My guess is that they will go on media blackout over the comment...

Valene
09-09-2009, 08:46 PM
WASHINGTON, Sept. 8 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- As President Obama addresses
the nation on health care reform, a new analysis by the Center for Immigration
Studies estimates that 6.6 million uninsured illegal immigrants could receive
benefits under the House health reform bill (H.R. 3200). While the bill states
that illegal immigrants are not eligible for the new taxpayer-funded
affordability credits, there is nothing in the bill to enforce this provision.
Congress defeated efforts to require the use of the Systematic Alien
Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) program. More than 70 other programs of
this kind use SAVE.

The report is available at http://www.CIS.org/IllegalsAndHealthCareHR3200.
Among the findings:

-- In 2007, there were an estimated 6.6 million illegal immigrants
without
health insurance who had incomes below 400 percent of poverty, which
is
the income ceiling for the new affordability premium credits.


-- If all uninsured illegal immigrants with incomes below 400 percent of
poverty received the new credits, the estimated cost to the federal
government would be $30.5 billion annually.


-- The current cost of treating uninsured illegal immigrants at all
levels
of government is an estimated $4.3 billion a year, primarily at
emergency rooms and free clinics.


-- On July 16 an amendment by Rep. Dean Heller (R-NV) that would have
required the use of the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements
(SAVE) program to prevent illegal immigrants from receiving the
affordability credits was defeated by the House Ways and Means
Committee.


-- At present 71 other means-tested federal programs require use of the
SAVE system to prevent illegal immigrants and other ineligible
non-citizens from accessing them.


-- Even though there is no mechanism to prevent enrollment, it is likely
that many income-eligible illegal immigrants would not enroll out of
fear or lack of knowledge of the new programs. Thus the actual costs
would be less than the maximum estimate of $30.5 billion. However, if
illegal immigrants are legalized and could receive affordability
credits, a much larger percentage would be expected to enroll, with a
corresponding increase in costs.


-- Uninsured illegal immigrants tend to use less in health care on
average
than others without health insurance because they tend to be young.
This
fact is incorporated into the current cost estimate of $4.3 billion.
However, government-provided affordability credits paid to insurance
companies are the same for everyone regardless of age or preexisting
conditions. Therefore, the younger age of illegals does not result in
lower average costs for taxpayers for this program.


-- It is also worth noting that the report estimates that 38 percent of
illegal immigrants had health insurance in 2007. Additionally, the
report estimates that there are at least 360,000 uninsured illegal
immigrants with incomes above 400 percent of poverty who would not
qualify for benefits under H.R. 3200.


-- It is also possible that illegal immigrants could benefit from the
expansion of Medicaid under H.R. 3200. The bill does not require
identity verification for those claiming U.S. birth. Of illegal
immigrants with incomes under 400 percent of poverty, about half live
under 133 percent of poverty, which is the new ceiling for Medicaid
eligibility.


-- On July 30 an amendment by Rep. Nathan Deal (R-GA) that would have
required identity variation for those claiming U.S. birth was defeated
by the House Energy and Commerce Committee.



Methodology: To estimate the number of illegal immigrants in the United States
this report uses the March 2008 Current Population Survey (CPS) collected by
the Census Bureau. While the CPS does not ask the foreign-born if they are
legal residents, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), former INS, and
other outside researchers have all used socio-demographic characteristics in
Census Bureau data to estimate the size of the illegal alien population; this
report follows the same approach. The March CPS also asks about income and
health insurance coverage and on this basis the report estimates the share of
low-income illegal immigrants who are without health insurance coverage. By
design these estimates of the size and characteristics of the
illegal-immigrant population match those


The Center for Immigration Studies is an independent research institution that
examines the impact of immigration on the United States. It has no position on
the health reform legislation before Congress or any other matter unrelated to
immigration.




SOURCE Center for Immigration Studies

Steven Camarota, +1-202-466-8185, sac@cis.org

Romulus
09-09-2009, 08:50 PM
finally... despite his shit record - the man has some balls! Bravo.

Mandrik
09-09-2009, 08:50 PM
Pretty damn funny, but Joe Wilson is hardly an ally of liberty. It's gonna be mildy amusing to see the Red vs. Blue fight, but nothing will come of this that will be a plus for the people.

Dionysus
09-09-2009, 08:51 PM
He just bought himself a lifetime pass to appear on Fox News.

Liberty Jihad
09-09-2009, 09:04 PM
She was probably wondering how the 'AstroTurf' got into the building.

Heh heh!

Deborah K
09-09-2009, 09:09 PM
The reason Obama can say that illegals won't be covered is because he intends to make them all LEGAL with the upcoming amnesty bill.

james1906
09-09-2009, 09:11 PM
The reason Obama can say that illegals won't be covered is because he intends to make them all LEGAL with the upcoming amnesty bill.

The "illegals" might not be covered, but the anchor babies who will sprout like weeds if this passes will be entitled to it as citizens.

Deborah K
09-09-2009, 09:30 PM
The "illegals" might not be covered, but the anchor babies who will sprout like weeds if this passes will be entitled to it as citizens.

Amnesty is next on the agenda. The pro illegal immigration groups are applying heavy pressure right now because he promised them he'd deal with it in the first 100 days. Once amnesty goes through, which I hope it does not, next will be open borders and an eventual economic and political merge with canada and mexico.

Light
09-09-2009, 09:39 PM
Amnesty is next on the agenda. The pro illegal immigration groups are applying heavy pressure right now because he promised them he'd deal with it in the first 100 days. Once amnesty goes through, which I hope it does not, next will be open borders and an eventual economic and political merge with canada and mexico.

I will tell you this. I feel that if Obama does try to do amnesty that it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. And maybe just maybe... the socialists house of cards will collapse on itself.

xd9fan
09-09-2009, 10:19 PM
rifles need to come out on washington if that ever happened.

Live_Free_Or_Die
09-09-2009, 10:22 PM
http://www.joewilson.house.gov/

Joe Wilson
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Please check back again soon.

tonesforjonesbones
09-09-2009, 10:27 PM
I really do believe they are trying to make us look like canada with the hate crimes / speech bill and the healthcare to consolidate. I talked to a canadian woman here in my town, she said she was going back to canada. Her husband was in the canadian air force and they were stationed here in my town. I asked her why the canadian air force was down here in florida..she said the USA airforce has been sending people to canada and the canadian airforce is sending theirs here..I'm sure this is more preperation for the North American Union. tones

Live_Free_Or_Die
09-09-2009, 10:49 PM
finally... despite his shit record - the man has some balls! Bravo.

No doubt he has voted for some legislation that is vile to the principals of the founding fathers but I wanted to put your comment in context.

Looking at data available on votesmart.org, making a general assumption that most federal legislation expands the role of government, I would say he votes yes to expand the role of government about 43% of the time.

To give that some context he deviates 28% away from Dr. Paul's record. While some of the crap he has voted for really sucks he is not anywhere close to the worst of the criminals in Congress.

Joe Wilson

Total
yes 180 (43%)
no 242 (57%)

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=3985

Ron Paul
yes 83 (15%)
no 478 (85%)

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=296

Light
09-09-2009, 10:54 PM
In school, a 57% is an F. He was right that Obama is a liar, however, he is as just as much a culprit in the expansion of government as Obama is.

Stary Hickory
09-09-2009, 11:09 PM
I will tell you this. I feel that if Obama does try to do amnesty that it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. And maybe just maybe... the socialists house of cards will collapse on itself.

Socialism has run its course in much of the world. It cannibalizes the system and falls apart. Europe is further a long, and the cracks are there for all the see. I think the tide is turning back to common sense already.

I really hope the liberty movement fills the void. We need a moral and prosperous society again.

Reason
09-09-2009, 11:18 PM
lol @ everyone getting all emo about this bullshit story.

revolutionary8
09-09-2009, 11:22 PM
Where did we get "Joe Wilson"?
Is this confirmed?
pardon the ignorance, but watching the video, I only heard a voice.
Who/what is the source of this information?


lol @ everyone getting all emo about this bullshit story.
Canya ever give ita rest CR?
I'm thinkin' not. :rolleyes:
I just want to know who said what, and where it came from. Is that to much to ask?

devil21
09-09-2009, 11:23 PM
Good for him. Obama IS lying. Lying right through his teleprompt...errr teeth. Yeah the heckler's record isn't good but I don't think anyone is calling for him to lead the Liberty movement all of a sudden. He just called a spade a spade and I can appreciate that.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl895



Tough crowd

Standing ovations abounded during Obama's speech, but blogs are buzzing most about N.C. Republican Rep.-turned-heckler Joe Wilson who loudly yelled "You lie!" after the president said health care reform wouldn't cover illegal immigrants. The moment threw Obama off track, if briefly. Michelle Obama was reported to have shaken her head in dismay from her seat.

Wilson quickly apologized in a statement to CNN, saying, "I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President's remarks…my comments were inappropriate and regrettable." For better or worse it's raised his profile. As one piece of evidence, his Twitter following doubled shortly after the speech wrapped.

He still backpedaled but that's to be expected.

qwerty
09-09-2009, 11:28 PM
REDDIT!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/9j2d5/sc_congressman_joe_wilson_calls_obama_a_liar/

revolutionary8
09-09-2009, 11:33 PM
Good for him. Obama IS lying. Lying right through his teleprompt...errr teeth. Yeah the heckler's record isn't good but I don't think anyone is calling for him to lead the Liberty movement all of a sudden. He just called a spade a spade and I can appreciate that.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl895



He still backpedaled but that's to be expected.

With his apology, he admitted it, I guess.
I still have no idea why the hell he apologized.
This is the first I've seen of an admission, allthough I just got here.
Why in the WORLD did he apologize?
:confused::confused::confused:
He is a liar!

RM918
09-10-2009, 12:11 AM
With his apology, he admitted it, I guess.
I still have no idea why the hell he apologized.
This is the first I've seen of an admission, allthough I just got here.
Why in the WORLD did he apologize?
:confused::confused::confused:
He is a liar!

I bet he was scared straight, imagine all the things that people did and said to him afterwards.

akforme
09-10-2009, 01:32 AM
This is the first time I've seen obama speak since he's been elected. He's gotten an arrogant tone to him now.

Romulus
09-10-2009, 05:15 AM
This is the first time I've seen obama speak since he's been elected. He's gotten an arrogant tone to him now.

what do you mean now.. he's always been a pompus ass.

Matt Collins
09-10-2009, 08:55 AM
This is the first time I've seen obama speak since he's been elected. He's gotten an arrogant tone to him now.



what do you mean now.. he's always been a pompus ass.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x93/sonicspikesalbum/Obama/n214902021_30760649_5122.jpg

kathyet
09-10-2009, 09:03 AM
Technically Obama isn't lying...but there is a bill that will allow it this is from numbersusa.com:


Immigration and Health Care: Legislation on the Table WILL Extend Health Care to Illegal Aliens



By James Edwards, Updated Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 9:47 PM

Just about the time the Center for Immigration Studies was holding a press briefing at the National Press Club about the immigration and health reform connection, proponents from President Obama on down were denying that illegal aliens would receive taxpayer-funded health care under pending legislation.



http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/edwardsj1/august-24-2009/immigration-and-health-care-legislation-table-will-extend-health-c


This needs to be stopped and all these bills that these politicians are constantly passing need to be rescinded including the one that "they don't have to go on the one they are forcing down our thoats..
kathyet

zach
09-10-2009, 09:16 AM
Ballsy man 2012!!

Aratus
09-10-2009, 09:36 AM
sanford's scandal has opened a gap, a political vacuum. someone was egging sanford on
about running in 2012. right now, even though much of the reaction is negative, joe wilson
has an instantaneous name recognition somewhere between that of potus woodrow wilson an'
the dudes who are the members past & present of the beach boys... so if & when he seeks to run...

SevenEyedJeff
09-10-2009, 11:07 AM
I thought illegals already had free health care.

Revolution0918
09-10-2009, 11:14 AM
i heard he got paid 250k by the health care people for saying it