why I'm not a liberal

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I like the idea of liberal economics, but it doesn't work, this is WHY I'm a libertarian. Not so much the philosophy of being anti-establishment, I'm a believer due to the fact that liberal economics is a failure. Citation? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society here it is. Lyndon B. Johnson's "Great Society" aka liberal reforms, a miserable failure, I don't know why liberals just don't become libertarians, liberal economics has been completely debunked time and time again lol do they ever learn? These people need to be barred from our government. A libertarian-only government would be so awesome! And why not? government is not a private organization, it can regulate itself in such a way. Neo cons and liberals are destructive to America, I think it's an issue of national security.... We have liberals that want to ruin our economy, then we have neo cons that want to ruin everything else, why even tolerate these people? We need a "libertarian only coalition"

[fsk]

If you take libertarian thoughts to their logical conclusion, you come to "agorism". If you want more details on agorism, you can look on Google or on my blog.

The problem is that government is an unaccountable monopoly, used by a handful of people to enslave everyone with a corrupt monetary system and corrupt taxation system.

[Corydoras]

These people need to be barred from our government.

No comment.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

No comment.

government is not a private institution

and libertarianism can operate under other forms of government.. not only the US system

democratic centralism is interesting... though I think Lenin was wrong on everything else

[fsk]

The fundamental argument against government is very simple.

Do you have the right to steal from me? I assume your answer is no.

If you don't have the right to steal from me, then you cannot authorize other people to steal from me on your behalf, via voting.

If you don't have the right to steal, you can't delegate your right to steal by voting.

All forms of taxation are theft.

[redpillguy]

Classical liberalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
.. is very different from "liberalism" in the USA today:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States

The former are espoused by Mises and Friedman (libertarian today), the latter by FDR and LBJ (e.g. the New Deal)

I believe that the latter was created by twisting the ideologies of the former, one of the many ways that deception and lies are spread by the mass media and the academe.

In my blog I touched on how Big Business has actually created the push for government regulation, during the "Progressive" era of ~1890-1920, as a means to shut out startup competition.
http://rabbit-hole-journey.blogspot.com/2007/09/history-of-government-regulation-and.html

Today the nation is well on the way to turning into an Authoritarian, Fascist, Socialist society:

http://rabbit-hole-journey.blogspot.com/2007/09/reps-and-dems-are-pushing-authoritarian.html


BTW ever wonder why the academe is so leftie-leanie? Some clues here:

http://rabbit-hole-journey.blogspot.com/2007/08/dumbed-down-by-educational-system-pt-2.html
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/historytour/history2.htm

The same people who pushed for government regulation, are the same people who pushed for government schooling, and who created wealthy tax-exempt foundations which donate money to universities, and choose which historians and economists get funding (the leftie-leanies). This is so our history books and professors and teachers praise FDR and LBJ, and put down the pro small government presidents like Harding.