Palin aligns herself with neocons, while National Review attempts to purge neocons

[iddo]

Palin signs onto Kristol letter attacking ‘defeatism’ about the war in Afghanistan:
http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/node/11818
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/08/palin-fpi-afghanistan/

Key quote from National Review:
"It’s now a long, confused history. [...] the price of defending our nation cannot be spending years — at a cost of precious lives and hundreds of billions of dollars — in a vain attempt to give people who despise us a way of life they don’t want."
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzFiZDY4MzlmMmU0MDdiNDViN2QxYzcxMDI5ZWI3MTQ=&w=MA==
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/35199.html

[Cowlesy]

Palin signs onto Kristol letter attacking ‘defeatism’ about the war in Afghanistan:
http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/node/11818
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/08/palin-fpi-afghanistan/

Key quote from National Review:
"It’s now a long, confused history. [...] the price of defending our nation cannot be spending years — at a cost of precious lives and hundreds of billions of dollars — in a vain attempt to give people who despise us a way of life they don’t want."
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzFiZDY4MzlmMmU0MDdiNDViN2QxYzcxMDI5ZWI3MTQ=&w=MA==
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/35199.html

That's got about every big neocon on it --- even John Podhoretz and Karl Rove (not to mention the FPI guys Kristol, Kagan and Senor).

I really cannot stand the neocons.

[acptulsa]

Is it 'defeatism' or is it a growing disinterest in helping the CIA corner the opium market?

[paulitics]

Ok. Palin. Any chance you had with me (voting unfortunately) has been defeated. How can you lie down with those neocon parasites?

[sratiug]

Palin signs onto Kristol letter attacking ‘defeatism’ about the war in Afghanistan:
http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/node/11818
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/08/palin-fpi-afghanistan/

Key quote from National Review:
"It’s now a long, confused history. [...] the price of defending our nation cannot be spending years — at a cost of precious lives and hundreds of billions of dollars — in a vain attempt to give people who despise us a way of life they don’t want."
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzFiZDY4MzlmMmU0MDdiNDViN2QxYzcxMDI5ZWI3MTQ=&w=MA==
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/35199.html

The National Review article is very, very strong. Great ammunition for ditching the neocons.

[1000-points-of-fright]

Ok. Palin. Any chance you had with me (voting unfortunately) has been defeated. How can you lie down with those neocon parasites?

Because she's always been one of them.

[kahless]

Because she's always been one of them.

Has she? I thought she was a Buchananite before she hooked up with McCain. That was the appeal of having her on the ticket but she blew it.

[itshappening]

Palin hasn't always been one but she knows that sucking up to them and becoming one of them will help her ambitions.

[1000-points-of-fright]

Has she? I thought she was a Buchananite before she hooked up with McCain. That was the appeal of having her on the ticket but she blew it.

I think she thought she was a Buchananite, but deep down she's always been a defend Israel at all costs, American Empire neocon. She just didn't know it.

[amy31416]

Quite frankly, I think that she just "aligns" herself with whatever she thinks is "coolest" at the time. She has the emotional and intellectual depth of a 13 year-old girl at a Backstreet Boys concert.

And the sad truth is that there are some former Paul supporters with similar levels of gravitas--we lost most of them to Obama (not that I'm complaining), but we still have a few remaining who support people like Palin.

[LibertyEagle]

September 6, 2009
NR Revises History, Again
Posted by Christopher Manion on September 6, 2009 12:15 PM

Eight years too late, and with no apologies, National Review has apparently finally given up on “the democracy project.”

“It’s now a long, confused history,” moans NR, but “the price of defending our nation cannot be spending years — at a cost of precious lives and hundreds of billions of dollars — in a vain attempt to give people who despise us a way of life they don’t want.”

Of course, the history is not confused at all – only National Review is. After 9-11, NR’s megalomania mafia repeatedly slandered critics of the neocon’s Trostkyite vision of a new democratic world (run by them, of course). Even Ted Kennedy didn’t get to be called “unpatriotic” in NR, but Robert Novak, Pat Buchanan, and Lew Rockwell did.

Novak, Buchanan, and Lew consistently advocated the Constitution and America’s true national interest, while National Review went off the wall in its worship of the war and its heroes — which NR now admits were zeroes.

One thing about the neocons: they never, ever apologize, and they never blame themselves. But NR has just admitted that they were wrong, and that the LRC team that told the truth since day one were right all along.

Don’t expect them to thank us for showing them the way.

UPDATE: Joe writes, “At the end of the article, NR concludes that they failed because they weren’t brutal enough. The writer wants to trash nation-building and just kill as many Islamists as possible. Of course, they’ve been doing that all along.”

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/35199.html

Yeah, that sounds like the National Review. Neocons 'til the end.

[iddo]

Yeah, that sounds like the National Review. Neocons 'til the end.

I take neocons to mean people who claim they want to do nation-building and spread our democracy for the benefit of everyone, not militant hawks who want to kill foreigners in order to protect the interests of the American empire.

[LibertyEagle]

Excerpt from speech by Ron Paul on July 10, 2003


More important than the names of people affiliated with neo-conservatism are the views they adhere to. Here is a brief summary of the general understanding of what neocons believe:

1. They agree with Trotsky on permanent revolution, violent as well as intellectual.

2. They are for redrawing the map of the Middle East and are willing to use force to do so.

3. They believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends.

4. They accept the notion that the ends justify the means—that hardball politics is a moral necessity.

5. They express no opposition to the welfare state.

6. They are not bashful about an American empire; instead they strongly endorse it.

7. They believe lying is necessary for the state to survive.

8. They believe a powerful federal government is a benefit.

9. They believe pertinent facts about how a society should be run should be held by the elite and withheld from those who do not have the courage to deal with it.

10. They believe neutrality in foreign affairs is ill advised.

11. They hold Leo Strauss in high esteem.

12. They believe imperialism, if progressive in nature, is appropriate.

13. Using American might to force American ideals on others is acceptable. Force should not be limited to the defense of our country.

14. 9-11 resulted from the lack of foreign entanglements, not from too many.

15. They dislike and despise libertarians (therefore, the same applies to all strict constitutionalists.)

16. They endorse attacks on civil liberties, such as those found in the Patriot Act, as being necessary.

17. They unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr071003.htm

[tonesforjonesbones]

well ..i think Palin is toast anyway..tones

[Sandra]

I've read Revelations, I believe the US is that Beast, more so now than ever. Even the non religious have to say it is what it is.

I don't want to live in the belly of the Beast. We need to completely remove all potency from the Beast builders and play no part of their games/schemes. There are so many here that will fall for their agenda simply because they will throw us a bone.

Does anyone have a video of Ron Paul speaking to the Victoria Sentinel?

[Brian4Liberty]

Palin signs onto Kristol letter

Uhhh, I hope this isn't old news, but Kristol "discovered" and mentored Palin, and lobbied extensively for her to be the VP candidate. It's interesting how these facts never make it out in the open. She was a neo-con recruited plant (puppet) from day one.