Defiant Israel approves settlements boost

[bobbyw24]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090907/wl_afp/mideastconflictsettler_20090907193910

Defiant Israel approves settlements boost
by Marius Schattner Marius Schattner Mon Sep 7, 3:37 pm ET

JERUSALEM (AFP) – Israel on Monday gave the go-ahead to build hundreds of new homes in settlements in the occupied West Bank, defying warnings that the move jeopardises any resumption of Middle East peace talks.

Defence Minister Ehud Barak authorised the construction of 455 units, most of them in the large settlement blocs that Israel has said it wants to keep in the event of a final peace agreement.

The move -- coming just days ahead of a planned visit to the region by US Middle East envoy George Mitchell -- has sparked criticism that it will undermine US-led efforts to restart the stalled peace process.

"Israel's decision ... nullifies any effect that a settlement freeze, when and if announced, will have," top Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat said in a statement.

"It further undermines faith in the peace process, and the belief that Israel is a credible partner for peace."

When Israel last week announced its intention to approve a spurt of settlement building before considering a halt demanded by the United States, Washington and Europe also warned against the move.

Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas blasted the plans as unacceptable.

He warned that if Israel goes ahead there will be no point in his holding a three-way meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US President Barack Obama on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly later this month.

"We will not go back to the negotiating table before a halt to the settlement building," Abbas's spokesman Nabil Abu Rudeina told AFP on Monday in Saudi Arabia.

The Israeli anti-settlement Peace Now group said in a statement that "these building approvals transform any peace process into a political farce."

"The settlers are receiving ... a significant gift from the government of Israel in the form of settlements extending tens of kilometres (miles) deep into the West Bank," it said.

But settler representatives blasted Monday's authorisation as not enough.

"We are extremely disappointed," Pinhas Wallerstein, head of the Yesha settler umbrella organisation, told AFP. "I'm ashamed of the attitude of my government, which is not resisting American pressure."

Later Monday, several hundred opponents of the freeze attended a protest in Maaleh Adumim, the largest West Bank settlement, urging the government to build new settlement neighborhoods.

"The Americans don't run this country, Israelis do," said Science and Technology Minister Daniel Hershkowitz of the pro-settler Jewish Home party, a junior member of the coalition.

Across the other side of a police cordon, dozens of Peace Now activists chanted: "Yes to peace, no to settlements."

Washington has for months pushed Israel to freeze all settlement activity and for Arab states to take steps towards normalising relations with the Jewish state in order to revive peace talks.

Amid media speculation that some Arab states may answer Obama's call and agree to normalisation steps, such as issuing visas or overflight rights, Abbas on Monday called "for a unified Arab stance in face of Israel."

The increased settlement building is part of Netanyahu's efforts to appease the hawks in his right-wing Likud party who virulently oppose any freeze, Israeli analysts say.

Any moratorium on construction would exclude some 2,500 homes already being built in the West Bank, as well as any building in annexed east Jerusalem.

Jewish settlements in the West Bank and east Jerusalem -- together home to some half a million Israelis -- are considered illegal by the international community and one of the thorniest issues in the decades-old Middle East conflict.

[Eric Arthur Blair]

There never has been nor ever will be a peace process it's all smoke and mirrors to fool the goyim. The Israelis intend to colonize all of remaining Palestine.

[Liberty Star]

Natenyahoo just slapped obama on the face pretty much with announcement of these settlements expansion on arab land, if Obama had any authority to cut aid, he would have done so. But he can't if he's just a puppet planted to bank on anti neocon sentiment post Iraq war and is executing agenda of puppet masters running the show.

[Fozz]

Israel needs to obey Obama because they have recieved BILLIONS of US taxpayer dollars every year! I don't want to hear any Bidenite nonsense about Israel being soveriegn----if they steal money from hardworking Americans through the AIPAC bribing of politicians, then they'd better listen to America.

This defiance is just one of many examples of Israel's arrogance.

[catdd]

There never has been nor ever will be a peace process it's all smoke and mirrors to fool the goyim. The Israelis intend to colonize all of remaining Palestine.

inch by inch

[ElyaKatz]

Duplicate post. Please delete.

[ElyaKatz]

BS"D

Good overview by Sultan Knish

Four Left Wing Myths About Israel (http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/)

Recent documents re Jewish legal claims over Eretz Israel

Arab-Jewish Agreement at Versailles March 1919 (http://books.google.com/books?id=sj5DqVLshOUC&pg=PA405&lpg=PA405&dq=Arab+Jewish+Agreement+at+Versailles&source=bl&ots=uiwj0vKEZG&sig=9zyYqiq5kqNBGBhi79DJiGwoSlU&hl=en&ei=-timSqyBIo6CMdSz7aYI&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=Arab%20Jewish%20Agreement%20at%20Versailles&f=false)

Feisal-Frankfurter Correspondence (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/FeisalFrankfurterCorrespondence.html)

British Mandate for Palestine (authorized by the League of Nations) July 24, 1922 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine)

On the alleged innocence of the Arab Leadership in Palestine re the Holocaust

Ribbintrop Promise to Mufti to Destroy Jewish National Home (http://books.google.com/books?id=sj5DqVLshOUC&pg=PA421&lpg=PA421&dq=Ribbentrop+Promise+to+Mufti+to+Destroy+Jewish+N ational+Home&source=bl&ots=uiwj0vKI5G&sig=3ao90SnKXmeltEVnegFkRXrJ0jc&hl=en&ei=3NqmSr7mKJK6Nc7Iia0I&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=Ribbentrop%20Promise%20to%20Mufti%20to%20Destroy %20Jewish%20National%20Home&f=false)

Controversies surrounding the alleged amendment of Palestinian National Covenant/Charter:

The Original PLO Charter (1964) (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/cove1.html)

The Fourth PLO Charter (1968) (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/PLO_Covenant.html)

Palestinian National Covenant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_National_Covenant)

Failure to amend the Palestinian National Covenant (http://www.likud.nl/govern24.html)

YouTube - Palestinian MP Dahlan: Arafat deceived the world when condemning terror (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr3-Vileiew)

Security Council Resolution 242 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_242)

Security Council Resolution 338 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_338)

The Joint Chiefs of Staff Map for Defensible Israeli Borders (http://www.acpr.org.il/books/33-Zero-editorial.pdf)

The Phased Plan (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/unres338.html"]Security Council Resolution 338[/URL]

[URL="http://www.netaxs.com/~iris/plophase.htm) -- For some reason, this link is bringing up a 404 page, no matter what I do. In the meantime:

The Phased Plan (http://www.middleeastfacts.com/weblog/israel/fatahs-farouk-kadumi-two-states-just-a-temporary-solution/)

If radicalized Muslims start settling along the highest ridges of the Appalachians and in strategic locations in Rocky Mountains, or other militarily strategic locations within the Unites States of America, and then begin demanding autonomy in those strategic locations sometime in the next 500 years, after long, consistent periods of expropriation of American land, and American labor, after hundreds of years of rape and pillaging in your communities; if Muslims write up a document on how to take over American society and change it's constitution; we'll see how eager Americans will be in caving in to those demands. Will pressure from the UN cause Americans to be that suicidal?? Well, with 'multiculturalism" and moral relativism invading everyone's minds...maybe. Actually, some of that is happening. Just watch The Third Jihad (http://www.thethirdjihad.com/), produced by a patriotic American Muslim, who did discover such documents.

Then there's the testimony of Walid Shoebat (http://www.shoebat.com/), who tells how he was taught to rape Jewish girls by his high school teacher. He came home indignant, told his father, a senior PLO operative, who told him that rape was indeed a legitimate part of jihad. Mr. Shoebat describes how the sleeper cells in America are awaiting the right moment to take over America. Or consider the words of Nonie Darwish (http://nonie-darwish.blogspot.com/), who was educated in the public school system in the Gaza strip. She tells how the entire life of the people she knew revolved around pleasing "Allah" via shahadah (martyrdom). Suicide attacks which result in the deaths of any "infidel" will do to assure the radicalized Muslim of a place in "Allah's heaven" but murdering the Jew is choicest of all in their eyes. Courageous Muslims and former Muslims who choose to be whistleblowers to wake Americans and other Westerners up from their movie/chips & beer induced slumber often suffer with death threats to bring the truth to us. Why would they be lying?? What's the payback for them?? Just a lot of headaches as far as I can see. That and knowing they're doing the right thing.

I think, instead of worrying so much about what Israel does or does not do, and what the Arabs in the disputed territories of the region do or do not do, Americans should worry more about what is going on right underneath our noses. We are facing duplicitous enemies the likes of which we have never encountered before. Believe it or weep later.

And as far as Israel having to kowtow to every American demand, because America provides assistance in the form of loan guarantees...there was never any document Israel signed that gave away her sovereignty as a nation to any other nation, not America or anyone else. By this reasoning, since China and Saudi Arabia are propping up the US economy, and have been for some time, maybe we need to "obey" them?? What a nice life that would be.

Whether or not you like the financial wheeling and dealing that goes on between the US and other nations, be it Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, China or whoever..."obedience" and bending blindly to the will of the given financial partner in the advantage is not usually a part of the bargain...until the eve of war. Invasion of sovereign US soil by Saudia Arabia or China anyone?? So, how about if we let Israel be Israel and handle her own affairs, and let's be Americans. You don't like foreign aid going to any other nations?? Then do something about it...work on changing the system. Bitching incessantly about the "evul Zionists" on an internet forum does not equal true activism. It's just another form of anaesthesia, and it misses the mark by a wide margin. Why? Because the Jewish people are not at the top of the this globalist pyramid. We're not even ON the pyramid. We'd be doing a helluva lot better in world affairs if we were. Yeah...there are prominent Jews, and a lot of them are big targets, but overall, Jews have suffered too much as a people for the thinking man or woman to seriously believe we are in control of everything.

Get off the acid trip. The "Zionist" bogeyman is not under your bed ready to steal your gold, force vaccinations on you, and drag your kids into re-education camps and you into FEMA camps. I'm not saying there isn't someone who would like to do it, but it's not the Jews in Judea and Samaria.

What needs to happen is true education...like -- "What can we do to weaken the Federal Reserve?" You don't need to beg congressman to pass laws to audit the Fed. That's one strategy, sure. But there is something you each can do every single day that, if done by only 10% of Americans would begin the process of crumbling the power of the Federal Reserve. Get out of debt, stay out of debt. Step one. Fractional banking doesn't work unless Americans are sinking into debt. Too late? Bill collectors after you? Then learn what you can do to make the criminals pay dearly for every dollar they try to grab from you. You got into debt partially because you can't say no. But Americans also got into debt because the "money" system is a total fraud. It was designed to get us in debt. Resist it. Don't make it easy and don't try crackpot easy solutions. It all takes learning and diligence to master. Expect to fail but keep learning and applying what you learn. Learn about disclaimers, and then begin non-endorsing all your checks, save copies of your non-endorsed checks. WATCH the reaction of your bank you do so. Learn about it!! Learn what you can do to stop cooperating with the IRS without getting yourselves in trouble with them. It takes study and it takes cautious steps forward.

Re America being a staunch ally of Israel...not so much all the time. Nations have no permanent friends, only permanent interests.

The Right to Strike (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/851705.html) by Amir Oren of Haaretz

How would you like to have this guy for your "Peace Partner"?

YouTube - Fatah still refuses to recognize Israel, 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTQ5CNYLoXE)
Focusing on Israel and ignoring the threat right under our noses is the death knell of America. It's a distraction. meant to lull Americans into some false sense of knowing what the problem really is.

[awake]

Pull all foreign aid (welfare) and wish them all the best.

[Objectivist]

PROgress is a good thing, CONgress is a bad thing.

[ElyaKatz]

PROgress is a good thing, CONgress is a bad thing.

Cute. ;)

[ElyaKatz]

Pull all foreign aid (welfare) and wish them all the best.

Exactly.

[Vessol]

I feel sorry for a lot of Israelis whom will suffer from their governments actions.

[Dr.3D]

I feel sorry for a lot of Israelis whom will suffer from their governments actions.
Yes, I also feel sorry for a lot of United States citizens who will suffer from the actions of their government. Me included.

[Liberty Star]

No wonder no one the world likes this dispicable oppresssive and criminal regime, what does it take to eran the dubious rank of being most hated country in the world? Coping with so much hatred has naturally transformed them into a barricaded police state with perpetual insecurity complex.


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By being their biggest aid provider in the world, day by day we're getting closer to them. If we kept this up, soon we'll be a police state just like them.

[ElyaKatz]

No wonder no one the world likes this dispicable oppresssive and criminal regime, what does it take to eran the dubious rank of being most hated country in the world? Coping with so much hatred has naturally transformed them into a barricaded police state with perpetual insecurity complex.

By being their biggest aid provider in the world, day by day we're getting closer to them. If we kept this up, soon we'll be a police state just like them.

America is surely getting close to being a police state, but it's simplistic to blame it on foreign aid to Israel. America started making that change shortly after the Civil War through the corruption of the court system, legal system in general. America's fall from grace accelerated greatly during the tenure of FDR. Americans want their cake and to eat it too. Americans want freedom but they want to gov't to catch them if they fall. American students want good jobs after they graduate from college, but they also want to be party animals at the expense of their parents or the government at night. Americans want their families, but not if the going gets rough. Then they want no-fault divorce. American men want devoted women, but they don't want to be devoted. American women want strong men, but they want to run the show. Americans want the love of their children, but not if they're inconvenient or expensive or get in the way of their fun. Americans don't want to be in debt, but they succumb to every advertising gimmick to get them to spend money that they see. America is failing in the same way that any nation fails. Through it's own fat, lazy corruption. Israel experienced it too, and ended up in exile (Babylonian). Take it from us.

Because America was at one time, arguably one of the most moral nations in the history of the world, a nation which honored the Hebrew Scriptures, as well as the Christian, which contain much in the way of the morality of the Torah, the engine of America has been amazing. Ethical monotheism is a powerful concept. There are still enough truly good, moral people in this nation to keep things hiccuping along. But we are running on steam at this point. The children of the moral people are joining the enemy, the greater culture which is increasingly corrupt. As the level of morality declines each year, we come closer and closer to morphing into that dreaded police state. Why? Because there is either self-government, or tyranny. The middle ground can't exist indefinitely.

Re Israel's alleged status as a "barricaded police state with perpetual insecurity complex", BS. There is more freedom for Israelis of all stripes, including Arabs than in any other nation in the Middle East. Yes, Israel must demonstrate a high level of military readiness. The "peace of deterrence" is required among most of the nations in the Middle East, because it is populated by tyrannical, non-representative governments.

In contrast to that, the peace of democracies, though I don't like the oversimplistic term democracy...as that form of gov't, the kind we now find ourselves in, sad to say, only leads to tyranny in the end. But, the peace of representative government...when a region is largely populated by those sorts of nations, they are generally more cooperative, more predisposed to negotiating their differences, less disposed to violence in general, both internally and with other nations.

For the time being, until the neighborhood is ready for a change, the kind of peace needed by every single nation in the Middle East is the peace of deterrence, for without it, each nation would swallow up it's neighbor whole. The only nation in the region that is not interested in forcibly swallowing up their neighbors is, in fact, the only nation with a representative form of gov't, imperfect though it be, and that is Israel. Israel has readily demonstrated a desire to give up territory in return for peace, but none has been forthcoming thus far.

Check out the stats sometime...at how many Arab/Muslim nations in the Middle East have tried to gobble one another up in history and who continue to have designs on one another. Very educational indeed.