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InterestedParticipant
09-04-2009, 08:07 PM
Well, they're trying to scare us again, particularly the townhall crowd or anyone else with any thoughts of exercising good ole fashioned American civil disobedience. They must be pretty weak domestically, especially with all the state and national guard troops deployed to the Middle East, to run such a contrived story. I just love how they make the point, more than once, that they're training local police along with uniformed soldiers.... it's meant to be an overt slap in the face.

I think the kids are running the Information Ops branch at the Pentagon these days, because the stuff coming out of their IO departments is just garbage. They've totally underestimated the intelligence of the American Public.


Fort Lee Training To Protect Solders And Families
Holds Realistic Training Exercise
Wayne Covil Senior Reporter
September 1, 2009
http://www.wtvr.com/wtvr-fort-lee-training-exercise,0,2674495.story


http://www.wtvr.com/media/photo/2009-09/49003640.jpg
Anti-Terrorism Drill at Fort Lee


FORT LEE - Some of the soldiers meeting today's tough military standards put their skills to the test this morning at Fort Lee.

It's part of a three day long anti-terrorism drill.

The Army post staged a fake protest to show how well soldiers and Fort Lee Police are equipped handle the situation.

As the protestors make their way towards the fence that separates Fort Lee from the rest of the world, Police and soldiers gear up for a possible confrontation.

That's exactly what Colonel Mike Morrow, Fort Lee's Garrison Commander expects. "We train our solders as realistically as we can, to protect for us as a garrison, other soldiers and families on the post".

As the chants grow louder and the protesters get angrier, the scenario changes from training exercise to being real life in just a matter of seconds

Fort Lee Chief of Police Joe Metzger wound up right in the middle as the protesters made there way to the fence. "Yea you forget because you're thinking in your mind how you're going to interact with these people. How you're going to keep things calm, how are you going to get the questions answered" says Metzger.

Specialist Nick Hulsey was one of the soldiers participating "The demonstrators, they had rounded up, they were all acting, but they did an excellent job, they looked like they were seriously agitated at something".

It takes weeks to plan out an anti-terrorism training exercise that combines the civilian base police with active duty soldiers.

Chief Metzger says in times of emergency's everyone has to work together "We forget one's wearing blue, one's wearing a uniform. We all come together for the same cause".

While the protesters are all volunteers, when they leave the training is far from over.

The exercise will last three days with Soldiers and Fort Lee Police going over all aspects of protecting of the military installation whether its protesters or terrorists.

Private Tiffany Saunders was another solider who participated "I learned over here we also have missions back in the U-S to protect our families and friends and this is a part of doing so".

InterestedParticipant
09-04-2009, 08:11 PM
Oh, and here is how you know who is cointel and who is not..... look to see who takes this article and pushes the "FEAR" Vector and who takes this article and exposes it for what it is. The cointel guys are all trying to get as much fear going as possible in the public... that's how you'll know. Watch, many will give themselves away with this or similar articles.

If anything, this article demonstrates THEIR weakness and the publics strength. FEAR is completely the wrong reaction to this. Confidence and Resolve are the more appropriate responses.

Goddamn amateur information ops guys are exposing themselves every where I turn.... perhaps it is deliberate at they don't really want to be doing what they are being forced to do, and that is turn against their own contrymen.

InterestedParticipant
09-05-2009, 09:45 AM
Bump.

LibertyEagle
09-05-2009, 10:28 AM
What's a "sigh-op"? Are you trying to refer to a PsyOp?

pcosmar
09-05-2009, 10:31 AM
He seems to think TPTB preparations for Control are just for Psychological purposes.
He forgets that millions have died exactly in this manner.

Dr.3D
09-05-2009, 10:48 AM
He seems to think TPTB preparations for Control are just for Psychological purposes.
He forgets that millions have died exactly in this manner.

Yes, I believe it is part Psy-Ops and part Phys-Ops. There is a psychological as well as physical nature to this 'training', both for the observers as well as those being trained. There is also the conditioning aspect for both parties.

InterestedParticipant
09-05-2009, 10:50 AM
What's a "sigh-op"? Are you trying to refer to a PsyOp?
Of course. I think the "sigh-op" is actually a more accurate reference to the techniques of psychological operations, as its more like another stupid hurdle the technocracy throws at the public to make our lives more challenging. But given the quality of PsyOps lately, "sigh-op" is probably a much better descriptor.


He seems to think TPTB preparations for Control are just for Psychological purposes.
He forgets that millions have died exactly in this manner.
Spoken like a person who has not read any military strategy created since the 1960's. Read the military's Vision 20/20 document and get up to speed please, it would be really helpful.

InterestedParticipant
09-05-2009, 10:53 AM
Yes, I believe it is part Psy-Ops and part Phys-Ops. There is a psychological as well as physical nature to this 'training', both for the observers as well as those being trained. There is also the conditioning aspect for both parties.
Well, that is if one believes that the training event even ocurred. I don't. I think it was a wag-the-dog scenario, probably created in someone's backyard or a studio somewhere.

They want us to back off from our Townhall civil disobedience, to go back into our homes and turn on our technetronic devices so they can regain control. It's all psychological, there is no other way they can fight this war...for they are just a small and weak group who's only power is that which relies on manufactured falsities, like paper wealth.

pcosmar
09-05-2009, 11:00 AM
Spoken like a person who has not read any military strategy created since the 1960's. Read the military's Vision 20/20 document and get up to speed please, it would be really helpful.

No, I am a trained Guerrilla . Thank you US tax payers.
I believe in Asymmetrical Warfare. I have also been trained in Conventional Warfare, so I understand it.
I am an amateur Tactician.
But, I an Resistance. Just one of many.

InterestedParticipant
09-08-2009, 08:42 AM
No, I am a trained Guerrilla . Thank you US tax payers.
I believe in Asymmetrical Warfare. I have also been trained in Conventional Warfare, so I understand it.
I am an amateur Tactician.
But, I an Resistance. Just one of many.
Okay soldier, but you need to get up to speed on 4GW (4th Generational Warfare), as convention guerrilla warfare only applies in the 3rd World.

Please see new 4GW Manuals: FMFM 1-A, Fourth Generation Warfare, produced by the 4GW Seminar at Marine Base Quantico.
http://www.d-n-i.net/dni/strategy-and-force-employment/fourth-generation-warfare-manuals/

Also, you may want to review writings by Bill Lind, 4GW think tank strategist.
"The Changing Face of War: Into the Fourth Generation"
http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/4th_gen_war_gazette.htm

pcosmar
09-08-2009, 09:14 AM
(4th Generational Warfare) LOL
That is working out so well.
Iraq
Afghanistan
South America

I take a much more ancient method. My inspiration is King David.

Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:
:D

InterestedParticipant
09-08-2009, 09:26 AM
What exactly do you "think" is going on the 1st world?


In Fourth Generation war, the state loses its monopoly on war. All over the world, state militaries find themselves fighting non-state opponents such as al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the FARC. Almost everywhere, the state is losing. Fourth Generation war is also marked by a return to a world of cultures, not merely states, in conflict.

pcosmar
09-08-2009, 09:57 AM
What exactly do you "think" is going on the 1st world?

I don't think much of the "think tanks" 4th generation theories. It is basically a response of the military planers to the realities of asymmetrical warfare. The armies of the empires are failing to suppress and defeat people who are under armed and under funded.
It is their excuse for their failure.
We will eventually have a One World Government with all official military under that banner.
There will also be resistance. Duh !!

It doesn't take a great mind or a "Think Tank" to see that.

InterestedParticipant
09-08-2009, 10:16 AM
I don't think much of the "think tanks" 4th generation theories. It is basically a response of the military planers to the realities of asymmetrical warfare. The armies of the empires are failing to suppress and defeat people who are under armed and under funded.
It is their excuse for their failure.
We will eventually have a One World Government with all official military under that banner.
There will also be resistance. Duh !!

It doesn't take a great mind or a "Think Tank" to see that.
No, that is NOT what this is about.... and to dismiss key think tanks is to dismiss any attempt to understand what is going on in the World.

4GW is 911, it is the economic warfare against the public, it is the information war on the public, it is the cultural war on the public, it is the destruction of our institutions... and on and on and on.

4GW is being perpetrated on society by the cryptocracy on behalf of an elite class in an effort to install a Brave New World society.

You think some men in upper Michigan with conventional weaponry and convention warfare fighting tactics are anything more than a gnat on a cow's butt in this scenario?

And with respect to this so-called failure that you think is going on, why are you so sure that this is a failure at all? And how can you be sure that those who control the armies that are "failing" also do not control the "enemies" that they are "fighting" against?

pcosmar
09-08-2009, 10:30 AM
I have no doubt of 'their" intentions.
I am resistance. and WE are many. Here, there and everywhere.

I will resist till I'm dead, I will instill resistance in others till then. I will teach any on tactics of resistance.
When I die others will continue.
We are resistance. As long as a spark of liberty remains.

Pericles
09-08-2009, 10:44 AM
Looking at the picture, I see a "soldier" that is wearing outdated LBE, and not the current issue MOLLE gear, and think:

(A) a unit with a cheap ass PBO that has not ordered the correct gear
(B) staged photo

4GW is not all that new - say Barbary Pirates? And before you jump on me, in my other life of not being on the RPF, I get published by the same guys who publish Lind. It is a good framework of thought, but they also claim that 3GW is obsolete, and that is not the case. We didn't 4GW Iraq in 2003 and China is building its power for 3GW and Russia is striving to do likewise.

InterestedParticipant
09-08-2009, 11:06 AM
I have no doubt of 'their" intentions.
I am resistance. and WE are many. Here, there and everywhere.

I will resist till I'm dead, I will instill resistance in others till then. I will teach any on tactics of resistance.
When I die others will continue.
We are resistance. As long as a spark of liberty remains.

I do not question your will, intent or motives, but how does one resist what one either cannot recognize or won't recognize? How do you even know if your techniques of resistance are resistance at all?

pcosmar
09-08-2009, 11:22 AM
I do not question your will, intent or motives, but how does one resist what one either cannot recognize or won't recognize? How do you even know if your techniques of resistance are resistance at all?

:D You don't know me.
http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_jolly-roger.jpg

I was once far more mercenary than I am today. When TSHTF , I will be concerned with those in my immediate area. My local community.
This area has long been very independent and self reliant. People who survive here are tough by nature.
There will be others, in other places that will do the same.

InterestedParticipant
09-08-2009, 11:53 AM
:D You don't know me.

I was once far more mercenary than I am today. When TSHTF , I will be concerned with those in my immediate area. My local community.
This area has long been very independent and self reliant. People who survive here are tough by nature.
There will be others, in other places that will do the same.
That's why I asked.

Okay, good answer :)

catdd
09-08-2009, 12:12 PM
"I will resist till I'm dead, I will instill resistance in others till then."

They may beat us on the battlefield, but they will never break our spirit.

InterestedParticipant
09-08-2009, 03:00 PM
"I will resist till I'm dead, I will instill resistance in others till then."

They may beat us on the battlefield, but they will never break our spirit.
One of my goals at RPF is to help people see the more subtle techniques that they use against us, the ones that the public would not see unless appropriate trained, so that these techniques may also be appropriately resisted.