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FrankRep
09-04-2009, 04:31 PM
Congressman Mike Pence (R) scored a 90% on the Freedom Index. :)
http://www.thenewamerican.com/files/Freedom_Index_111-1.pdf



Rep. Mike Pence: Van Jones needs to resign as Green Jobs Czar (http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0909/Pence_calls_on_Van_Jones_to_resign.html)


Politico.com
September 04, 2009


Rep. Mike Pence, the no. 3 Republican in the House, is calling on Obama green jobs czar Van Jones to resign.

This sort of thing would usually be laughed off by Democrats -- a conservative Republican telling a Democratic appointee to quit.

But the Obama team isn't exactly jumping to back Jones today in wake of revelations that in the past he signed on to one of the "truther" groups that claimed 9/11 was an inside job. Oh, and he called Republicans a**holes in a video earlier this year before he was appointed.

Asked about Jones' affiliations with the 9/11 group at the daily briefing, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs would only say: "It's not something that the president agrees with." And then Gibbs referred other questions to a statement Thursday by the Council on Environmental Quality in which Jones said he never backed any of these 9/11 conspiracy groups.

"Given recent revelations concerning the associations and statements of the president's green jobs czar, Van Jones should resign his position and if he is unwilling to do so, the president should demand his resignation. His extremist views and coarse rhetoric have no place in this Administration or the public debate," Pence said. "The Constitution of the United States vests Congress with the responsibility to advise and consent in the appointment of high ranking officials by the president. To date, President Obama has appointed more than thirty individuals to ‘czar’ positions within his Administration without permitting the Congress or the American people to properly examine their backgrounds or public records."


SOURCE:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0909/Pence_calls_on_Van_Jones_to_resign.html

FrankRep
09-04-2009, 04:32 PM
Background on Van Jones, the Obama's Green Jobs Czar:


Glenn Beck goes after Color of Change co-founder Van Jones ( Communist )
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=207222

Van Jones: Trotskyist?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=208599


Fox News on Van Jones: (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/03/raw-data-van-jones-resume/)


Co-founded a socialist collective, Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, or STORM, in 1994, which held study groups on the theories of Marx and Lenin and dreamed of a multiracial socialist utopia.

dannno
09-04-2009, 04:33 PM
Obama Adviser 'Has to Resign'

Friday, September 4, 2009 12:21 PM


Dick Morris, speaking on FOX's "On the Record" on Sept. 3, said that Van Jones, President Barack Obama's "green jobs" adviser, must resign after he reportedly signed a petition calling for an investigation into whether 9/11 was an inside job.

Morris was not dissuaded by Jones' subsequent denial that he believed there was an actual conspiracy.

"An investigation as to whether it was an inside job or not? You have got to be kidding," Morris said. "And this guy is in the administration and they're not calling for him to quit? What does Obama use for vetters?"

http://www.newsmax.com/morris/van_jones_obama_clinton/2009/09/04/256541.html

dannno
09-04-2009, 04:34 PM
Congressman Mike Pence (R) scored a 90% on the Freedom Index. :)
http://www.thenewamerican.com/files/Freedom_Index_111-1.pdf


Not on my freedom index.

FrankRep
09-04-2009, 04:36 PM
Not on my freedom index.
The Freedom Index (http://www.thenewamerican.com/files/Freedom_Index_111-1.pdf) is based on the Constitution. What's yours based on?

dannno
09-04-2009, 04:41 PM
The Freedom Index (http://www.thenewamerican.com/files/Freedom_Index_111-1.pdf) is based on the Constitution. What's yours based on?

Where in the Constitution does it say that a person shouldn't question their government's actions?!

dannno
09-04-2009, 04:43 PM
The Freedom Index (http://www.thenewamerican.com/files/Freedom_Index_111-1.pdf) is based on the Constitution. What's yours based on?



Opposing view: Hope springs in Iraq
Violence is down in large parts of Baghdad. We saw the progress.

By Mike Pence

We have a long way to go in Iraq. There is tough, difficult work ahead. But we are making progress, and there is reason for cautious optimism about President Bush's surge. Despite all you see and hear in the media, there is a springtime of hope beginning in Iraq. I saw it on the faces of hundreds of ordinary Iraqis on the streets of Baghdad.



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FrankRep
09-04-2009, 04:47 PM
Where in the Constitution does it say that a person shouldn't question their government's actions?!

The Freedom Index (http://www.thenewamerican.com/files/Freedom_Index_111-1.pdf) is based on this Criteria for Congressman:
It's their Constitutional Report Card.

1.) TARP Funding
2.) SCHIP (State Children’s Health Insurance Program)
3.) Economic Stimulus
4.) National Service
5.) COPS Funding (The Community Oriented Policing Services)
6.) Budget Resolution (Fiscal 2010 Budget Resolution)
7.) Hate Crimes (the Hate Crimes Prevention Act)
8.) Supplemental Appropriations
9.) Body Imaging Screening
10.) Cash for Clunkers

Congressman Mike Pence (R) scored a 90% on the Freedom Index.

dannno
09-04-2009, 04:53 PM
The Freedom Index (http://www.thenewamerican.com/files/Freedom_Index_111-1.pdf) is based on this Criteria for Congressman:
It's their Constitutional Report Card.

1.) TARP Funding
2.) SCHIP (State Children’s Health Insurance Program)
3.) Economic Stimulus
4.) National Service
5.) COPS Funding (The Community Oriented Policing Services)
6.) Budget Resolution (Fiscal 2010 Budget Resolution)
7.) Hate Crimes (the Hate Crimes Prevention Act)
8.) Supplemental Appropriations
9.) Body Imaging Screening
10.) Cash for Clunkers

Congressman Mike Pence (R) scored a 90% on the Freedom Index.

Great, but Ron Paul said that the FIRST thing we should do that would drastically increase liberty and safety in our country is to end our foreign empire. It is our most expensive engagement. That is why Ron Paul endorsed McKinney and Nader in the Presidential election, because even with a bunch of crap socialist programs we would still be better off than with McCain or Obama as long as we ended our foreign empire. So that 90% is pretty insignificant if he wants a US foreign empire, because we are going to fail no matter how conservative we are with that kind of foreign policy. Not to mention it is immoral.

The freedom index is obviously flawed if it isn't putting significant weight on our foreign policy.

Not to mention this guy headed a resolution to support the CIA funded Iranian protesters. This guy is like a mouth piece for the establishment as far as foreign policy goes.

FrankRep
09-04-2009, 04:57 PM
Great, but Ron Paul said that the FIRST thing we should do that would drastically increase freedom in our country is to end our foreign empire. It is our most expensive engagement. That is why Ron Paul endorsed McKinney and Nader in the Presidential election, because even with a bunch of crap socialist programs we would still be better off than with McCain or Obama as long as we ended our foreign empire. So that 90% is pretty insignificant if he wants a US foreign empire, because we are going to fail no matter how conservative we are with that kind of foreign policy. Not to mention it is immoral.

The freedom index is obviously flawed if it isn't putting significant weight on our foreign policy.

Not to mention this guy headed a resolution to support the CIA funded Iranian protesters in Iran. This guy is like a mouth piece for the establishment as far as foreign policy goes.


The Freedom Index is based on how the Congressman votes. We haven't had any major Foreign Policy votes lately.

dannno
09-04-2009, 04:59 PM
It would be incredibly stupid and immoral to end the social programs in this country BEFORE ending our foreign empire. The reason poverty in this country is so high is due to the Federal Reserve and Corporate subsidies as well as our foreign empire. Ron Paul doesn't want to stop giving people government aid who are dependent on it, he wants to end our foreign empire FIRST and establish an honest monetary system so that we can pick ourselves up by the bootstraps, and eventually the social programs will disappear because they won't be in demand.

I don't want to expand social programs, but like Ron Paul I think it would be very foolish to end them before ending our foreign empire. We need to focus our energies in the right place. We have to remember our roots.

dannno
09-04-2009, 05:00 PM
The Freedom Index is based on how the Congressman votes. We haven't had any major Foreign Policy votes lately.

Ya, but if we did, he would support them and his score card would be much lower.

I'm not going to praise this guy just because he aced his spelling test when he sucks at math and science and just hasn't had a test in that area lately.

Especially when he is attacking Van Jones for being a truther. Sounds great to me, except now he's denying it so fuck the bastard. But I still say it would be better if he were helping Obama in the area of foreign policy because obviously he isn't that bright when it comes to economics... but he would certainly be much better than Obama's other foreign policy advisers.

FrankRep
09-04-2009, 05:12 PM
Ya, but if we did, he would support them and his score card would be much lower.

I'm sure if Bush were in power their score would be lower, depending on HOW they vote. Right now, he's voting Constitutionally and we take notice of that. When he votes unConstitutionally, I'll criticize and denounce him for it.

FrankRep
09-04-2009, 05:57 PM
Van Jones: 'We've never seen a Columbine done by a black child'...
Only 'Suburban White Kids' Shoot Up Schools...

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=Gd8z8zaG2G

qh4dotcom
09-04-2009, 09:14 PM
Great, but Ron Paul said that the FIRST thing we should do that would drastically increase liberty and safety in our country is to end our foreign empire. It is our most expensive engagement. That is why Ron Paul endorsed McKinney and Nader in the Presidential election, because even with a bunch of crap socialist programs we would still be better off than with McCain or Obama as long as we ended our foreign empire. So that 90% is pretty insignificant if he wants a US foreign empire, because we are going to fail no matter how conservative we are with that kind of foreign policy. Not to mention it is immoral.

The freedom index is obviously flawed if it isn't putting significant weight on our foreign policy.

Not to mention this guy headed a resolution to support the CIA funded Iranian protesters. This guy is like a mouth piece for the establishment as far as foreign policy goes.

You have a point there since this is what the Freedom Index PDF says


The Freedom Index: a Congressional Scorecard Based on the
U.S. Constitution” rates congressmen based on their adherence
to constitutional principles of limited government, fiscal responsibility,
national sovereignty, and a traditional foreign policy of
avoiding foreign entanglements.

tonesforjonesbones
09-04-2009, 09:46 PM
I am for whatever gets that communist racist Van Jones KICKED to the curb! Tones

FrankRep
09-04-2009, 10:00 PM
Et tu, Barack?: Czar 'continues to work for administration'
Non-ringing endorsement starts countdown for Van Jones' exit from 'green jobs' post

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108930

Liberty Star
09-04-2009, 10:02 PM
It would be divine if this VJ guy went down and with him took down Fox neocons, Beck, Murdoch and company. This communist-neocon infighting could then be the best thing that happened for America's liberties.

jmdrake
09-04-2009, 10:44 PM
Van Jones: 'We've never seen a Columbine done by a black child'...
Only 'Suburban White Kids' Shoot Up Schools...

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=Gd8z8zaG2G

So when white people talk about black violent crime you are going to go after them too right?

Anyway I'm not a fan of Van Jones, but if Mike Pence thinks that someone who's simply called for a new investigation should resign from a "green jobs czar" then Mike Pence is the one who is crazy. One of the "questions" on the document that Van Jones signed was about the Pakistani ISI chief who wired $100,000 to Mohammed Atta. That's a fact that's been proven in spades.

jmdrake
09-04-2009, 10:45 PM
Oh, and instead of worrying about Van Jones shouldn't we be worried about anybody with the title "Green Jobs Czar"?

KAYA
09-04-2009, 10:51 PM
To me Van Jones is one of those guys whose heart is in the right place but his logic is just so twisted and grossly flawed.

Matt Collins
09-15-2009, 02:40 PM
Personal friend, DC attorney, and Campaign for Liberty member, Nicole Kardell, goes on Russian TV to discuss the new "anti-czar" bill :D

YouTube - Are Republicans trying to get rid of Obama appointees with an anti-czar bill? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_551HoBLhU)