I called my daughter's school re: Sept. 8

[Dianne]

I did get through to the school today to find out if watching Obama's interview was mandatory. I prefaced my conversation with "I am probably the only parent that will call you today about Tuesday" at which time the gentleman on the phone burst out laughing and said I was the 176th call they received just today. They have been instructed by the local board of education to allow the teachers to decide for themselves. If Obama's speech fits in with their curiculum, they can watch it. It it does not, they can choose not to watch it. In any event, they have set up an alternate area for those students who do not want to watch in the event their teacher does. They will accept notes from parents asking that their child be excused from the 12:00 noon speech. We are preparing that note now.

I am so pleased people are getting off their rears and placing these calls.

[Arklatex]

Good deal.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I did get through to the school today to find out if watching Obama's interview was mandatory. I prefaced my conversation with "I am probably the only parent that will call you today about Tuesday" at which time the gentleman on the phone burst out laughing and said I was the 176th call they received just today. They have been instructed by the local board of education to allow the teachers to decide for themselves. If Obama's speech fits in with their curiculum, they can watch it. It it does not, they can choose not to watch it. In any event, they have set up an alternate area for those students who do not want to watch in the event their teacher does. They will accept notes from parents asking that their child be excused from the 12:00 noon speech. We are preparing that note now.

I am so pleased people are getting off their rears and placing these calls.

OUTSTANDING!

but I do have to ask - how big is your daughters school? ie: any idea how many attend?

-t

[FrankRep]

Make September 8 a Family Day! Stay Home from School! (Say NO to Obama)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=208439

[Dr.3D]

I did get through to the school today to find out if watching Obama's interview was mandatory. I prefaced my conversation with "I am probably the only parent that will call you today about Tuesday" at which time the gentleman on the phone burst out laughing and said I was the 176th call they received just today. They have been instructed by the local board of education to allow the teachers to decide for themselves. If Obama's speech fits in with their curiculum, they can watch it. It it does not, they can choose not to watch it. In any event, they have set up an alternate area for those students who do not want to watch in the event their teacher does. They will accept notes from parents asking that their child be excused from the 12:00 noon speech. We are preparing that note now.

I am so pleased people are getting off their rears and placing these calls.

How will the teaches know if it fits until it has been aired? Is there going to be some kind of special airing where the teachers may watch it before the one the students will watch? :confused:

[Dianne]

Her school has right around 500 students. It is a magnet school, so it is one of those you have to be accepted to attend. That might be why the population is lower than most of the area high schools.

[Reason]

Food 4 Thought

"Why is it political for the president of the United States to discuss education?" asked Newt Gingrich, who was then the House Republican whip.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=208680

[tangent4ronpaul]

Her school has right around 500 students. It is a magnet school, so it is one of those you have to be accepted to attend. That might be why the population is lower than most of the area high schools.

W00T! - 35.2% of the parents called!!!!

Obama is definitely loosing ground! Maybe we can prevent them from doing too much damage before 2012.

-t

[MelissaWV]

How will the teaches know if it fits until it has been aired? Is there going to be some kind of special airing where the teachers may watch it before the one the students will watch? :confused:

They are releasing a transcript of what's to be said, I believe, ahead of time. Also the general subject matter has been discussed ad nauseum. As part of a Civics or Government class, this could certainly be seen as something that should be offered, or even in a Debate class, or Speech/Language Arts... but I'm glad so many are opting out. It also helps make it seem less of an "oh my GOD mom & dad are so STRANGE!" moment since so many are doing it.

[Dr.3D]

They are releasing a transcript of what's to be said, I believe, ahead of time. Also the general subject matter has been discussed ad nauseum. As part of a Civics or Government class, this could certainly be seen as something that should be offered, or even in a Debate class, or Speech/Language Arts... but I'm glad so many are opting out. It also helps make it seem less of an "oh my GOD mom & dad are so STRANGE!" moment since so many are doing it.

Thanks, I didn't know about the transcript. For awhile, I thought perhaps everybody had me on their ignore list. :p

Edit: I sure would like to be able to read that transcript.

[LittleLightShining]

I did get through to the school today to find out if watching Obama's interview was mandatory. I prefaced my conversation with "I am probably the only parent that will call you today about Tuesday" at which time the gentleman on the phone burst out laughing and said I was the 176th call they received just today. They have been instructed by the local board of education to allow the teachers to decide for themselves. If Obama's speech fits in with their curiculum, they can watch it. It it does not, they can choose not to watch it. In any event, they have set up an alternate area for those students who do not want to watch in the event their teacher does. They will accept notes from parents asking that their child be excused from the 12:00 noon speech. We are preparing that note now.

I am so pleased people are getting off their rears and placing these calls.My kids came home with letters basically saying the same thing. I have no idea how many parents called or whether my kids' teachers intend to use the speech or not. All I know is that they may use it sometime over the next week. We can opt out. I would rather just know if and when they intend to use it and keep them home. I don't want my objection going on my kids' records.

[Son of Detroit]

My school sent out an e-mail saying that no teachers will be stopping their plans in order to watch the speech. Instead, if a teacher feels it fits their curriculum, then they can tape it and show it on a later date.

I was looking forward to it actually, I wanted to fill out those questions and give it the ol' liberty slant.

Now I have to take my first day of school AP Bio test as planned. Sucks.

[Dianne]

The impression I received was that it was entirely up to the individual teacher whether or not to have the students watch. The teacher makes the determination if it fits in with the curiculum... so I would assume all teachers that support Obama are going to have their students watch and non supporters will not watch.

Kind of like this teacher (there's a minute of stuff I don't understand before the actual video begins)

YouTube - Racist Black Obama Teacher Humiliates Deployed Soldiers Girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM45kYAKyCU)

[Ranger29860]

The impression I received was that it was entirely up to the individual teacher whether or not to have the students watch. The teacher makes the determination if it fits in with the curiculum... so I would assume all teachers that support Obama are going to have their students watch and non supporters will not watch.

Kind of like this teacher (there's a minute of stuff I don't understand before the actual video begins)

YouTube - Racist Black Obama Teacher Humiliates Deployed Soldiers Girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM45kYAKyCU)


I'm thankful that i don't keep any heavy objects near my monitor cause after watching that i wanted to throw the first thing i could find at that teacher

i hope her father saw that and flipped out on that teacher

[carlangaslangas]

Mmm. I doubt that "exposing" our kids to an Obama speech will forever ruin their minds. I think my kids can handle it without any adverse effects.
And I am actually looking forward to it.
However, after some deliberation I am also against it because of the school setting. It is not a good idea to allow it because of the abuse it could lend itself to, not necessarily now but in the future.

Well, in a libertarian world there would be no public schools, and therefore no risk of abuse from the government. But our current system is not that perfect.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I'm thankful that i don't keep any heavy objects near my monitor cause after watching that i wanted to throw the first thing i could find at that teacher

i hope her father saw that and flipped out on that teacher

I'm thankful that I can't view YouTubes right now, as I keep a locked and loaded .45 right in front of it (the monitor) - and it's an expensive monitor!

Likewise - when Congress goes too Socialist/Commie - I take vacations from C-SPAN.... there is only so much of this crap you can take!

-t

[tangent4ronpaul]

Mmm. I doubt that "exposing" our kids to an Obama speech will forever ruin their minds. I think my kids can handle it without any adverse effects.
And I am actually looking forward to it.
However, after some deliberation I am also against it because of the school setting. It is not a good idea to allow it because of the abuse it could lend itself to, not necessarily now but in the future.

Well, in a libertarian world there would be no public schools, and therefore no risk of abuse from the government. But our current system is not that perfect.

*HOMESCHOOL!*

=t

[lynnf]

Make September 8 a Family Day! Stay Home from School! (Say NO to Obama)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=208439



I like this idea, if the absences create enough of a $$ loss, the schools will be begging Obama to not do this again!

lynn

[carlangaslangas]

*HOMESCHOOL!*

=t

Believe me, we seriously thought about it years ago. But it was too much work, and we were concerned about losing the social interaction with other students.

[puppetmaster]

My sons school has set up alternative options for parents whom decide their student should not attend.

[puppetmaster]

I like this idea, if the absences create enough of a $$ loss, the schools will be begging Obama to not do this again!

lynn


HAHA they will just create some new stimulus to help out.....

[Dianne]

Let's hope the sheeple are finally starting to get it.

[pappy]

Ha.
They are going to set up an "alternate" area for those that choose not to participate.

sounds just like what they plan to do with all who don't comply.

:-) i mean :-(

just saying

pappy

[LittleLightShining]

Ha.
They are going to set up an "alternate" area for those that choose not to participate.

sounds just like what they plan to do with all who don't comply.

:-) i mean :-(

just saying

pappy

Totally hearing you, pappy. This is why I'm hesitant to say anything and would rather just keep my kids home.

[KAYA]

Indoctrination? What indoctrination?

YouTube - More Obama Indoctrination going on in schools (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMxOPvIohcM&eurl)

[Dianne]

Here is the pre-k thru 6th grade lesson plan:

http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf

Menu of Classroom Activities
President Obama’s Address to Students Across America
(PreK‐6)
Produced by Teaching Ambassador Fellows, U.S. Department of Education
September 8, 2009
Before the Speech
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Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama. (man he has an ego that never stops) Teachers could motivate students by asking the following questions:
Who is the President of the United States?
What do you think it takes to be president?
To whom do you think the president is going to be speaking?
Why do you think he wants to speak to you?
What do you think he will say to you?
•
Teachers can ask students to imagine that they are delivering a speech to all of the students in the United States.
If you were the president, what would you tell students?
What can students do to help in our schools?
Teachers can chart ideas about what students would say.
•
Why is it important that we listen to the president and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?During the Speech
•
As the president speaks, teachers can ask students to write down key ideas or phrases that are important or personally meaningful. Students could use a note‐taking graphic organizer such as a “cluster web;” or, students could record their thoughts on sticky notes. Younger children could draw pictures and write as appropriate. As students listen to the speech, they could think about the following:
What is the president trying to tell me?
What is the president asking me to do?
What new ideas and actions is the president challenging me to think about?•
Students could record important parts of the speech where the president is asking them to do something. Students might think about the following:
What specific job is he asking me to do?
Is he asking anything of anyone else?
Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?
•
Students could record questions they have while he is speaking and then discuss them after the speech. Younger children may need to dictate their questions.

Menu of Classroom Activities (PreK‐6)
President Obama’s Address to Students Across America
2
After the Speech
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Teachers could ask students to share the ideas they recorded, exchange sticky notes, or place notes on a butcher‐paper poster in the classroom to discuss main ideas from the speech, such as citizenship, personal responsibility, and civic duty.
•
Students could discuss their responses to the following questions:
What do you think the president wants us to do?
Does the speech make you want to do anything?
Are we able to do what President Obama is asking of us?
What would you like to tell the president?
Extension of the Speech
Teachers could extend learning by having students:
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Create posters of their goals. Posters could be formatted in quadrants, puzzle pieces, or trails marked with the following labels: personal, academic, community, and country. Each area could be labeled with three steps for achieving goals in that area. It might make sense to focus first on personal and academic goals so that community and country goals can be more readily created.• (Hitler youth)Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short‐term and long‐term education goals. Teachers would collect and redistribute these letters at an appropriate later date to enable students to monitor their progress.
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Write goals on colored index cards or precut designs to post around the classroom.
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Interview one another and share goals with the class to create a supportive community.
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Participate in school‐wide incentive programs or contests for those students who achieve their goals.
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Write about their goals in a variety of genres, such as poems, songs, and personal essays.
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Create artistic projects based on the themes of their goals.
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Graph individual progress toward goals.

[Valene]

Just in case you need another reason to not let your children watch Obama's speech, please read this report on his use of conversation hypnosis.

http://www.internet-grocer.net/hypnosis.pdf

It's a lengthy 60 page document with footnotes and it explains fully how this man was elected.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Believe me, we seriously thought about it years ago. But it was too much work, and we were concerned about losing the social interaction with other students.

there are homeschool groups to solve both those problems.

-t

[specsaregood]

there are homeschool groups to solve both those problems.

-t

Indeed, the "social interaction" argument isn't really an issue if one actually tries and gets the kids involved in the numerous homeschool groups available. It still is a lot of work, but the payoff might very well be worth it.

[pacelli]

How will the teaches know if it fits until it has been aired? Is there going to be some kind of special airing where the teachers may watch it before the one the students will watch? :confused:

No no, that's just the school board's way of placing the teachers (and their job) in front of any lawsuit that comes down the road.

In this situation, the teachers are unfortunately being placed as cannon fodder.

[Andrew-Austin]

I did get through to the school today to find out if watching Obama's interview was mandatory. I prefaced my conversation with "I am probably the only parent that will call you today about Tuesday" at which time the gentleman on the phone burst out laughing and said I was the 176th call they received just today. They have been instructed by the local board of education to allow the teachers to decide for themselves. If Obama's speech fits in with their curiculum, they can watch it. It it does not, they can choose not to watch it. In any event, they have set up an alternate area for those students who do not want to watch in the event their teacher does. They will accept notes from parents asking that their child be excused from the 12:00 noon speech. We are preparing that note now.

I am so pleased people are getting off their rears and placing these calls.

I'm guessing you live in a conservative area? More rural? Because if the school got that many in a more liberal urban area, then I would be surprised.

[John of Des Moines]

They will accept notes from parents asking that their child be excused from the 12:00 noon speech. We are preparing that note now.

FYI - that note will be held as evidence and used in your Anti-Obamation trial.

[Dianne]

It is more of a rural area. Charlotte is the largest city near us and there was a great deal of coverage regarding calls they were getting to protest the speech.