Brilliant lady. Lmao

[WarDog]

http://www.wimp.com/brilliantlady/

[FrankRep]

http://jamie-online.com/random-jamz/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/facepalm.jpg

[Liberty_Tree]

http://www.englishrussia.com/forum/files/blank_facepalm_224.gif

[RideTheDirt]

saw this weeks ago, and was in awe

[angelatc]

Oh my freaking god. She sounds like a first-grader.

[rajibo]

Didn't I see her talking about the Iraq on some beauty pagent?

[Bruno]

The land is free because it is new land. lmao

Looks like the lady in the background is trying her best not to die laughing

[StudentForPaul08]

*facepalm*

Is this the Liberal Sarah Palin?

[StudentForPaul08]

YouTube - Atlanta Grape Lady (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THfiHQZVSw0)

[Bruno]

^ Geez, i seriously hope that lady was alright after that!

[Sandman33]

I'm not saying that we should end womens suffrage....I'm just saying lets let women vote to end womens suffrage and see what the results are...

All I'm sayin.

[LittleLightShining]

Someone actually clapped.

[james1906]

Obama will name her Secretary of Agriculture.

[Bruno]

Someone actually clapped.

because she was finally finished rambling! :D

[Justin D]

Didn't I see her talking about the Iraq on some beauty pagent?

Yes!
YouTube - Miss Teen USA 2007 - South Carolina answers a question (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww)

[sevin]

Oh my freaking god. She sounds like a first-grader.

Mentally, she is. And there are tens and millions of people this stupid in America.

[acptulsa]

Can't watch it right now. Is she better or worse than Rep. Maxine Waters?

[FrankRep]

Can't watch it right now. Is she better or worse than Rep. Maxine Waters?

Do you remember Miss South Carolina? I think this lady is related.

[torchbearer]

Mentally, she is. And there are tens and millions of people this stupid in America.

and their vote counts as much as yours.
scared of democracy yet?

[LittleLightShining]

Can't watch it right now. Is she better or worse than Rep. Maxine Waters?

Actually, we'd probably be better off with her than Waters.

[angelatc]

I'm not saying that we should end womens suffrage....I'm just saying lets let women vote to end womens suffrage and see what the results are...

All I'm sayin.

If you said that about blacks or jews you'd get a perma-ban.

All I'm sayin'.

[Original_Intent]

LOL @ the ~three year old blonde girl that keeps giving her the "thumbs down"! :D She needs a thought bubble over her head saying "Dayum woman! I am not even in kindergarten and I am getting stupider being in the same room as you!"

[Icymudpuppy]

I've long felt that Voting should not be universal. Suffrage should be contingent on certain conditions, none of which are age related.

1. Must pass a civics test that gauges how well you understand how a republic is supposed to work.

2. Must not be dependent on anyone else for your livelihood. (ie. still living in your mom's basement free of charge)

3. Must not accept any form of public assistance.

4. Must have a legitimate job or own a legitimate business.

Therefore, I would have been able to vote at the age of 10 when I started mowing lawns and delivering newspapers, and mom and dad started charging me rent for home, food, and utilities.

[Dianne]

Are you sure she's not that fake doctor hitting the town halls? Like... Like... Like.... lmao

YouTube - Is this town hall questioner a doctor, as claimed, or an OFA organizer / Obama delegate? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxna9SfmBgs)

[Original_Intent]

I've long felt that Voting should not be universal. Suffrage should be contingent on certain conditions, none of which are age related.

1. Must pass a civics test that gauges how well you understand how a republic is supposed to work.

2. Must not be dependent on anyone else for your livelihood. (ie. still living in your mom's basement free of charge)

3. Must not accept any form of public assistance.

4. Must have a legitimate job or own a legitimate business.

Therefore, I would have been able to vote at the age of 10 when I started mowing lawns and delivering newspapers, and mom and dad started charging me rent for home, food, and utilities.

I agree with you generally. If this were ever implemented (it won't be) there are too many loopholes with many of these tho. Parents could charge $1 per month "rent". Same with defining "dependent", and "legitmate job or business".
Civics test is a tar baby because who decides what is on the test? If Obama wrote up the test, I am sure there would be plenty of questions making sure that people were properly "socialized".

Not that I am against the idea in concept. For simplicity I think just boild it down to:

1) landowner
2) had received no government assistance in any form (subsidy, welfare, student loan, etc.) during the previous 24 month period.

[TonySutton]

1) landowner
2) had received no government assistance in any form (subsidy, welfare, student loan, etc.) during the previous 24 month period.

There is always a loophole, like selling 1 square foot parcels of land.

[Icymudpuppy]

Not that I am against the idea in concept. For simplicity I think just boild it down to:

1) landowner
2) had received no government assistance in any form (subsidy, welfare, student loan, etc.) during the previous 24 month period.

The problem with the "Landowner" definition, is there are a lot of positive contributors and business owners who choose to rent both their abode and their business storefront for the simplicity of allowing a property manager to care for the nitty gritty of maintenance of those properties. Two businessmen profiting from one another. Disenfranchising the business owner just because he chooses to rent instead of buy is going to bar a lot of very libertarian businessmen from voting.

[torchbearer]

There is always a loophole, like selling 1 square foot parcels of land.

it is more like- those who have vested interest in the corporation gets to vote.
Meaning-if landowners pay a property tax- they get to vote.
You don't pay taxes, you have no say in what is done with that money.

[Icymudpuppy]

it is more like- those who have vested interest in the corporation gets to vote.
Meaning-if landowners pay a property tax- they get to vote.
You don't pay taxes, you have no say in what is done with that money.

Okay, I'll go with that. If you pay taxes you vote. If you don't actually pay any taxes into the government to be selected, no vote. Federal bureaucrats could vote in state elections, but not federal elections since their paycheck comes from federal taxes, and vice versa.

What about sales taxes, though? They would have to be abolished because they would re-establish universal suffrage.

[torchbearer]

Okay, I'll go with that. If you pay taxes you vote. If you don't actually pay any taxes into the government to be selected, no vote. Federal bureaucrats could vote in state elections, but not federal elections since their paycheck comes from federal taxes, and vice versa.

What about sales taxes, though? They would have to be abolished because they would re-establish universal suffrage.

I'd keep it based on property tax, because this also solves residency problems.
Sales taxes would not be a factor.
Sales taxes should be abolished anyway.
And property taxes should be voluntary. Meaning- if you pay them, you get a vote. You don't pay them, you don't get a vote.
And if possible make your vote worth the same as your percetange contribution of taxes.
You pay 1 million in property taxes, you vote has more sway than someone who paid $10 in property taxes. Same as shares of stock in a company.

[Icymudpuppy]

I still don't like just property based because not everyone chooses to own land, and their are a lot of other contributors to the economy besides landowners. Your plan would created a "Landed Aristocracy", and we'd be back to a feudal system of landed nobility.

[torchbearer]

I still don't like just property based because not everyone chooses to own land, and their are a lot of other contributors to the economy besides landowners. Your plan would created a "Landed Aristocracy", and we'd be back to a feudal system of landed nobility.

the government funded by landowners would be a lot smaller than one funded by everyone.
people who rent, could be transient in nature. People who buy products over the internet that generate funds for your state- do not deserve a say in its government.

We have fuedalism now. Serfs everywhere.

Why would a person who put up a million dollars in taxes vote for welfare or universal health care? In fact, he'd be protected from such a democratic tyranny.

[Original_Intent]

the government funded by landowners would be a lot smaller than one funded by everyone.
people who rent, could be transient in nature. People who buy products over the internet that generate funds for your state- do not deserve a say in its government.

We have fuedalism now. Serfs everywhere.

Why would a person who put up a million dollars in taxes vote for welfare or universal health care? In fact, he'd be protected from such a democratic tyranny.

I am right there with you, Torch. The biggest problem we have right now is various people (corporations, welfare recipients, farmers) who have the power to vote money out of your pocket and into theirs.

That has to stop. But it is not likely to stop peacefully because we have passed the point where 50% of the people are sucking at the government teat, and they are not going to willingly vote that power out of their hands.

[amy31416]

I'm not saying that we should end womens suffrage....I'm just saying lets let women vote to end womens suffrage and see what the results are...

All I'm sayin.

This from the guy who throws a temper tantrum when someone calls him out for being sexist.

If you actually think this women is representative of the intelligence of other women, once again, I question the quality of the people you choose to surround yourself with.

[Todd]

This is the "Average voter".